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(Salon)   Arkansas school that banned gay student's coming out story in yearbook relents to public pressure. Ha, just kidding, they doubled down and banned other students from mentioning his coming out story   (salon.com) divider line 276
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2014-03-19 03:23:32 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Personally - I don't think anyone's sexual preferences are appropriate for a high school year book....

'I'll never forget the first time I found robot-bondage-gangbang porn.  Class of 2015 FTW!'


Yet I bet they have a cutest couple, like ours did.  Doesn't that display their sexual preference?
 
2014-03-19 03:23:37 PM  

rkiller1: TheDirtyNacho: It's funny watching bigots squirm and try to explain how they're not really bigots...

Did we read the same article?  Perhaps the superintendent is a bigot (it's not clear from the piece) but she sure wasn't squirming.  In fact, she doubled-down on her decision, according to the title.



"The superintendent of the school district has responded to calls to reinstate the story by calling censorship "consistent with the mission of our school," while the principal has said that keeping the profile out of the yearbook will prevent bullying."


Ah yes, we're censoring you for your own protection.
 
2014-03-19 03:24:37 PM  

hardinparamedic: umad: If a yearbook isn't the proper place to discuss your proclivities in the bedroom, then I don't know where is.

How much gay porn do you whack to on a daily basis?

I only ask because those who seek to fetishize sexual orientation and make it strictly about sexual intercourse tend to be the most closeted, sexually deviant individuals you're likely to meet.


Yeah, you dont sexualize, sexual orientation!
 
2014-03-19 03:24:41 PM  

CynicalLA: And California also has parts that are really conservative. I guess the only option is to stay away from rural areas.


Agreed. Stay away from Orange County.
 
2014-03-19 03:24:55 PM  

EvilEgg: A yearbook is no place for coming of age stories.  You want to share stories of your personal growth and finding peace with who you are,  write it on your crappy blog.


or your christmas card letter please!
 
2014-03-19 03:26:24 PM  

hardinparamedic: umad: If a yearbook isn't the proper place to discuss your proclivities in the bedroom, then I don't know where is.

How much gay porn do you whack to on a daily basis?


You could have read all about it in my highschool yearbook but the fascists in charge wouldn't print it.
 
hej
2014-03-19 03:28:07 PM  
I don't know why this is so hard to understand.  If you want to be gay, don't live in Arkansas.
 
2014-03-19 03:28:48 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: It's funny watching bigots squirm and try to explain how they're not really bigots...


I also love how they cover up their discomfort (and probably some titillation) about thinking a lot about gay sex, because it seems that is all they can understand about what coming out is.
 
2014-03-19 03:29:00 PM  

rkiller1: CynicalLA: And California also has parts that are really conservative. I guess the only option is to stay away from rural areas.

Agreed. Stay away from Orange County.


The whitest place I've ever lived was Corona Del Mar in Orange County.  More economic Republican types than the religious right loonies though.
 
2014-03-19 03:29:22 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Personally - I don't think anyone's sexual preferences are appropriate for a high school year book....

'I'll never forget the first time I found robot-bondage-gangbang porn.  Class of 2015 FTW!'


I have to assume this is trolling, but in case it's not:

Homosexuality is a bit more complex, as an identifier, than what goes on in the bedroom.
 
2014-03-19 03:29:25 PM  

I alone am best: Yeah, you dont sexualize, sexual orientation!


That must explain the whole "sanctity of marriage" that people are going on about. I mean, without sex, no wonder the majority of marriages end in divorce after one year. Nothing else comes out of the qualities of the person you're emotionally attracted to, right?
 
2014-03-19 03:30:01 PM  

rkiller1: TheDirtyNacho: It's funny watching bigots squirm and try to explain how they're not really bigots...

Did we read the same article?  Perhaps the superintendent is a bigot (it's not clear from the piece) but she sure wasn't squirming.  In fact, she doubled-down on her decision, according to the title.


I think he is referring to some of the farkers commenting on TFA
 
2014-03-19 03:30:13 PM  

hej: I don't know why this is so hard to understand.  If you want to be gay, don't live in Arkansas.


Because it's so easy for a high school student who is still living with their parents to just up and move to another state.
 
2014-03-19 03:30:50 PM  
Stating your sexual orientation is about as salacious as stating your religion. Stupid Puritans freaking out over every damn thing. Grow up.
 
2014-03-19 03:30:54 PM  

EvilEgg: Yes, what about the Christians who don't want that kind of filth in their yearbook?


You're far too obvious, troll.
 
2014-03-19 03:31:26 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: rkiller1: TheDirtyNacho: It's funny watching bigots squirm and try to explain how they're not really bigots...

Did we read the same article?  Perhaps the superintendent is a bigot (it's not clear from the piece) but she sure wasn't squirming.  In fact, she doubled-down on her decision, according to the title.


"The superintendent of the school district has responded to calls to reinstate the story by calling censorship "consistent with the mission of our school," while the principal has said that keeping the profile out of the yearbook will prevent bullying."


Ah yes, we're censoring you for your own protection.


And to you that's a bigot humorously squirming?
Um, okay...to each his own.
 
2014-03-19 03:31:30 PM  

Serious Black: hej: I don't know why this is so hard to understand.  If you want to be gay, don't live in Arkansas.

Because it's so easy for a high school student who is still living with their parents to just up and move to another state.


You didn't get to pick where you born?  You got jipped.
 
2014-03-19 03:32:11 PM  

Serious Black: kroonermanblack: I'm not interested enough to read the original story or this one. Is there any chance, and I know this is stupid, that the school didn't want the yearbook politicized? They wouldn't let a straight male write 'banging biatches is awesome' or anything of a similar bent, would they? The yearbook is a place for empty faux philosophical thoughts, not real shiat.

Why do you think his story was going to say something like  "I love having guys suck my rock-hard cock until I cum in their mouth"?

ReverendJynxed: Your coming out has nothing to do with school. I don't care if you made it with your first girl, boy, dog, or cat. Your sexual orientation doesn't belong in a yearbook. Stop pushing your agenda.


I think it is because they secretly want what they are having and feel bad about it, since that is all they see when they think of gay guys.
 
2014-03-19 03:33:09 PM  

The Flexecutioner: Don't buy the yearbook in protest.


Everyone submit a profile that will likely be omitted. Result: a book of blank pages.
 
2014-03-19 03:34:11 PM  
Meanwhile a kid got suspended the other day for wearing a pro-second amendment shirt to school, you know, something that actually impacts his life and future, rather than some yearbook crap.

Why do school still sell yearbooks anyway? Isn't that anti-green to waste all that paper? Global warming!
 
2014-03-19 03:34:18 PM  

Serious Black: Does the yearbook include pictures of guys dancing with girls at prom or homecoming? Does the yearbook include who won class awards like "cutest couple"? Does the yearbook include shout-outs to opposite-gender significant others? Congratulations, sexual orientation is already a part of the yearbook!


Jesus H Christ, THIS.
 
2014-03-19 03:36:02 PM  
I think its very sweet that the students have been so supportive. I can't imagine that being the case had he come out even 10 years ago. It's pretty amazing to see how things have changed in just a few years, even if the school doesn't "get" it.
 
2014-03-19 03:36:38 PM  

Bullseyed: Meanwhile a kid got suspended the other day for wearing a pro-second amendment shirt to school, you know, something that actually impacts his life and future, rather than some yearbook crap.

Why do school still sell yearbooks anyway? Isn't that anti-green to waste all that paper? Global warming!


Yeah. I'm gonna stop you there.

He does not have a right to express his "Second Amendment Rights" on school grounds. Not only is it threatening to other students and supportive of a "violent belief", but it's disruptive to the learning environment. So yeah, the school is well within their rights to restrict political speech like that, so sayeth the SCOTUS.

All2morrowsparTs: I think it is because they secretly want what they are having and feel bad about it, since that is all they see when they think of gay guys.


They have to fetishize sexual orientation. Otherwise, they might be forced to come to terms with the emotional feelings they have.
 
2014-03-19 03:37:05 PM  

All2morrowsparTs: rkiller1: TheDirtyNacho: It's funny watching bigots squirm and try to explain how they're not really bigots...

Did we read the same article?  Perhaps the superintendent is a bigot (it's not clear from the piece) but she sure wasn't squirming.  In fact, she doubled-down on her decision, according to the title.

I think he is referring to some of the farkers commenting on TFA


I had considered that and expected him/her to reply accordingly, but instead s/he quoted the piece to bolster the argument.
 
2014-03-19 03:37:18 PM  

rkiller1: TheDirtyNacho: rkiller1: TheDirtyNacho: It's funny watching bigots squirm and try to explain how they're not really bigots...

Did we read the same article?  Perhaps the superintendent is a bigot (it's not clear from the piece) but she sure wasn't squirming.  In fact, she doubled-down on her decision, according to the title.


"The superintendent of the school district has responded to calls to reinstate the story by calling censorship "consistent with the mission of our school," while the principal has said that keeping the profile out of the yearbook will prevent bullying."


Ah yes, we're censoring you for your own protection.

And to you that's a bigot humorously squirming?
Um, okay...to each his own.



Yes.  It's some piece of shiat bigot pretending to be saving the children, preventing bullying or whatever.  Not much different than those pieces of shiat in Arizona who tried to legalize discrimination in the name of "religious freedom".

Cognitive dissonance makes them squirm because they don't see themselves as bigots, even though they clearly are.
 
2014-03-19 03:38:19 PM  
 

Astorix: Just like with rural Indiana the best thing you can do is leave Arkansas. Leave. Let it suffer a brain drain just like the rural parts of Indiana. Leave it to dry up and blow in the wind. Move to friendlier states with more accepting laws. Move to the East Coast, West Coast, Canada. Just leave.

You will be so much happier for it.

/I sure am. Left Indiana 18 years ago and the only thing I regret was not leaving there 10 years earlier.


Ha.  My roommate is from rural Indiana.  There's been a few times something stupid about Indiana has come up in conversation.  Right afterward someone trying to be considerate looks at him and says "oh, it's not THAT bad..." he promptly tells them "yes, it is, f--k that place, the best thing I ever did was leave".

Michigan: we're still better than Indiana.
 
2014-03-19 03:38:25 PM  
Are they also including "I farked the prom queen stories"? No? probably because who you fark has not a g.d. thing to do w/ school.
 
2014-03-19 03:38:30 PM  
Yep, not being able to think or talk about gays without going over how they fark doesn't make you seem sexually aroused by it. Nope, not at all.
 
2014-03-19 03:41:34 PM  
I detected a conservative dog whistle or two in there, so it looks like the principal is just the run of the mill bigoted conservative "Christian".
 
2014-03-19 03:41:35 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: rkiller1: TheDirtyNacho: rkiller1: TheDirtyNacho: It's funny watching bigots squirm and try to explain how they're not really bigots...

Did we read the same article?  Perhaps the superintendent is a bigot (it's not clear from the piece) but she sure wasn't squirming.  In fact, she doubled-down on her decision, according to the title.


"The superintendent of the school district has responded to calls to reinstate the story by calling censorship "consistent with the mission of our school," while the principal has said that keeping the profile out of the yearbook will prevent bullying."


Ah yes, we're censoring you for your own protection.

And to you that's a bigot humorously squirming?
Um, okay...to each his own.


Yes.  It's some piece of shiat bigot pretending to be saving the children, preventing bullying or whatever.  Not much different than those pieces of shiat in Arizona who tried to legalize discrimination in the name of "religious freedom".

Cognitive dissonance makes them squirm because they don't see themselves as bigots, even though they clearly are.


So when you wrote "funny" you were being ironic and really meant "angry"?
Got it.
Peace...out.
 
2014-03-19 03:42:00 PM  

Lollipop165: I think its very sweet that the students have been so supportive. I can't imagine that being the case had he come out even 10 years ago. It's pretty amazing to see how things have changed in just a few years, even if the school doesn't "get" it.


Depends where.  We had three out people in my suburban Michigan high school (Two lesbians who inevitably dated each other and then had a nasty breakup, and one gay guy) and no one really batted an eye - even though the state as a whole banned gay marriage right after that.  Ally kids these days are way more vocal about their support though, though, and good on them.  The kids are alright.

thesocietypages.org
/and those percentages have only gone up since
 
2014-03-19 03:42:13 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Your coming out has nothing to do with school. I don't care if you made it with your first girl, boy, dog, or cat. Your sexual orientation doesn't belong in a yearbook. Stop pushing your agenda.


How about a "straight" guy talking about his sexual activity? How about a story from the pregnant girl who had her baby? How about the story of the pregnant girl how had the abortion?

//Talk about safe sex, great. Talk about sexual orientation, unnecessary in a high school yearbook.
//Yes, I support "gay" rights and not just for happy people.
 
2014-03-19 03:43:33 PM  

rkiller1: So when you wrote "funny" you were being ironic and really meant "angry"?
Got it.
Peace...out.


See, it's times like this that demonstrate why no one even takes you seriously anymore as anything other than a right winged troll, dude.
 
2014-03-19 03:43:55 PM  

EvilEgg: hardinparamedic: Marcus Aurelius: That's quite a lesson they're teaching there.

You're the real monster, Sir.

How dare you be intolerant of the rights of those school administrators to be intolerant of others. How dare you stifle their first Amendment rights, Sir.

Yes, what about the Christians who don't want that kind of filth in their yearbook?


They're one of those "special interest groups" whose demands the superintendent will not allow to influence her decisions.

/all special interest groups are equal
//but some are more equal than others
///three
 
2014-03-19 03:45:49 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: rkiller1: TheDirtyNacho: It's funny watching bigots squirm and try to explain how they're not really bigots...

Did we read the same article?  Perhaps the superintendent is a bigot (it's not clear from the piece) but she sure wasn't squirming.  In fact, she doubled-down on her decision, according to the title.


"The superintendent of the school district has responded to calls to reinstate the story by calling censorship "consistent with the mission of our school," while the principal has said that keeping the profile out of the yearbook will prevent bullying."


Ah yes, we're censoring you for your own protection.


Well, at least they're consistent
 
2014-03-19 03:45:50 PM  

hardinparamedic: He does not have a right to express his "Second Amendment Rights" on school grounds. Not only is it threatening to other students and supportive of a "violent belief", but it's disruptive to the learning environment. So yeah, the school is well within their rights to restrict political speech like that


You're retarded.
 
2014-03-19 03:47:43 PM  

umad: You're retarded.


And you're uneducated.
 
2014-03-19 03:53:06 PM  

hardinparamedic: umad: You're retarded.

And you're uneducated.


ctrl-f "NRA": 0 results
ctrl-f "shirt": 0 results
ctrl-f "violent belief": 0 results
ctrl-f "threat": 0 results

I stand by my assertion.
 
2014-03-19 03:55:10 PM  

EvilEgg: A yearbook is no place for coming of age stories


A yearbook is nothing but a collection of coming of age stories.

Ours were filled with stories of triumphant moments, moments of tragedy, fun and excitement and merriment.

/Your yearbook must really suck.
 
2014-03-19 03:56:39 PM  

umad: ctrl-f "NRA": 0 results
ctrl-f "shirt": 0 results
ctrl-f "violent belief": 0 results
ctrl-f "threat": 0 results

I stand by my assertion.


Your assertion that, what? Reading comprehension was not something you learned as a child? That the law is a little more complex than your impassioned beliefs would have you think?

The First Amendment allows schools to limit apparel which advocate violent, illegal, or threatening material, acts, or beliefs, in the interest of school safety and preventing disruption of the learning environment.
 
2014-03-19 03:56:55 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Your coming out has nothing to do with school. I don't care if you made it with your first girl, boy, dog, or cat. Your sexual orientation doesn't belong in a yearbook. Stop pushing your agenda.


So I can assume you are also pushing to get rid of homecoming kings and queens, right?
 
2014-03-19 03:58:57 PM  

HailRobonia: ReverendJynxed: Your coming out has nothing to do with school. I don't care if you made it with your first girl, boy, dog, or cat. Your sexual orientation doesn't belong in a yearbook. Stop pushing your agenda.

Which is why yearbooks NEVER show pictures of school dances or other events where couples might be displaying affection towards each other.


Well, it is the South.

//Q: Why don't Baptists have sex standing up?
//A: Because it reminds them of dancing.
 
2014-03-19 04:01:22 PM  

someonelse: Fark_Guy_Rob: Personally - I don't think anyone's sexual preferences are appropriate for a high school year book....

So, no pics of Homecoming king and queen or prom couples, eh?


I don't have a problem with implied sexuality.  A guy and a girl dancing is fine.  Two guys dancing is fine.  A picture of four friends walking down the hall - all fine, IMHO.  I don't what to know if the four friends all enjoy blowing each other or not.

One look at the kid, and I feel like he might be gay.  That's a suspicion, or a guess.  He just looks like he might be to me.  That's fine.  But he wants to tell his story of discovering his gayness.  And that doesn't have any place in the yearbook any more than the time I learned I didn't like anal sex, or the weird kid who is into furry porn and culture went to his first party dressed in a $600 fox costume.
 
2014-03-19 04:01:40 PM  

EvilEgg: hardinparamedic: Marcus Aurelius: That's quite a lesson they're teaching there.

You're the real monster, Sir.

How dare you be intolerant of the rights of those school administrators to be intolerant of others. How dare you stifle their first Amendment rights, Sir.

Yes, what about the Christians who don't want that kind of filth in their yearbook?


What sort of filth are we talking about?  Are there lurid descriptions or pictures of homo-sex?

\yeah, I thought not
 
2014-03-19 04:02:51 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: And that doesn't have any place in the yearbook any more than the time I learned I didn't like anal sex, or the weird kid who is into furry porn and culture went to his first party dressed in a $600 fox costume.


600 dollars?

Wow. Your fursuit must be cheap. You poser.
 
2014-03-19 04:03:03 PM  

The idea of homosexuality being a legitimate expression of human sexuality is not accepted by society. The acceptance of homosexuality is a change that has not yet occurred. Again, the default condition is a rejection of homosexuality


Don't mistake circle-jerkery on a web forum for societal norms. Homosexuality is not accepted. You see, that's why there's all this talk of bigotry and intolerance and hurt feelings. Homosexuality is not accepted.


Sorry to completely overstate the point, but it's a little tiresome to hear all this agitprop about homosexuality having universal approval when it's simply not true.
 
2014-03-19 04:03:24 PM  

snarfyboy: ReverendJynxed: Your coming out has nothing to do with school. I don't care if you made it with your first girl, boy, dog, or cat. Your sexual orientation doesn't belong in a yearbook. Stop pushing your agenda.

So I can assume you are also pushing to get rid of homecoming kings and queens, right?


And all mention of any coupling, apart from lab partners (but not from bio class). And - if it's anything like most high schools I know - there is at least one married couple teaching there, better ban all mention of their sexual orientation as well. Also any note from the school about "growing up and getting straight-married" - we don't want anyone thinking they encourage sexual relationships, now, do we?

// also, better prohibit all mention of "high-profile" laws or legal decisions made over the school year, just to get out front
// an enterprising young editor might try the "Well, these things did truly happen (and with the sanction of THE US of FARKING A, or one of its hallowed courts)" gambit
 
2014-03-19 04:04:07 PM  

hardinparamedic: umad: You're retarded.

And you're uneducated.


To be fair, Bong Hits v. Jesus effectively overturned Tinker, even though they didn't explicitly say so.
 
2014-03-19 04:05:49 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: One look at the kid, and I feel like he might be gay.  That's a suspicion, or a guess.  He just looks like he might be to me.  That's fine.  But he wants to tell his story of discovering his gayness.  And that doesn't have any place in the yearbook any more than the time I learned I didn't like anal sex, or the weird kid who is into furry porn and culture went to his first party dressed in a $600 fox costume.


If someone saying "I'm gay" makes you involuntarily think about all sort of sexual acts, then maybe you're the one with a bit a sexual obsession.
 
2014-03-19 04:05:54 PM  

CynicalLA: I feel sorry for the gay kids that were unlucky enough to be born in Arkansas or any other of our theocratic states.


Eureka Springs, Ar is one of the most LBGT friendly places I have ever been.
 
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