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2014-03-19 03:53:15 PM  

ERNesbitt: You can't throw rocks at the boys with your friends and then sneak over for kissing games when it's dark.



ERN?  You just put every summer camp in America out of business.   :  )
 
2014-03-19 03:56:02 PM  

ginandbacon: MadMattressMack: ginandbacon: MadMattressMack: udhq: CanisNoir: Umm, not wanting someone to murder another human being as a form of "birth control" isn't exactly a moral hang up so much as just common decency.

That a fetus is a human being is your belief, and yours alone, and it is not supported by ANY science on the matter.  It is merely a point of dogma, and shouldn't be used as a pretext to strip the basic human rights from someone who does not accept it as such.

To believe so, you also must believe that a woman who chooses to have sex surrenders the very ownership of her body to the government for the gestational period.

I'd agree with you to a point. You can't have an abortion at 8 months and 29 days because you decided you don't want it. I'm against abortion of viable fetuses outside of health concerns for the mother and / or fetus.

Give me examples of women doing this.

I can't nor do I care to look up a case. But to believe it wouldn't happen is naive.

To believe it would is frankly bizarre. There are only 3? (I think--it might be 2) doctors who have clinics for late term abortions and they are medical procedures that are emergencies and devastating for the parents who have to go through them.

Dr. Tiller was murdered because of made up crap like you are spouting.


What made up crap am I spouting? Do you honestly believe that if it were legal for any person anywhere to go get a late term abortion that it wouldn't happen? Diffuculty: you must include Florida and drug addicts.

I know it's not legal for that crap to happen and agree with the current laws that prohibit it. But without said laws, do you really think it would never happen?

And Dr. Tiller definitely wasn't murdered for the crap I'm spouting.  He was murdered by an schizo who thought he was doing something that he wasn't - namely providing illegal late term abortions.
 
2014-03-19 03:56:13 PM  

CanisNoir: serpent_sky: And currently, abortion is legal, so you really have no argument.

At one point in our history Slavery was legal, that's now outlawed, so I guess I actually *do* have a point.


Not really; at one point, alcohol was illegal, and that's now legal.
At one point, no gay couples could marry. Now, they can in many states.

Over time, laws change.

As of now, the law of the land is abortion is a legal medical procedure, whether or not some people disagree with it.  If you're arguing that maybe one day abortion will be illegal because some people disagree with it, I guess you have a point, I'll concede that much, but no more.  Though I certainly hope that day never comes.
 
Ant
2014-03-19 03:57:02 PM  
Childless by choice people: Stop acting like there's something wrong with 'breeders' because they've decided to have children. You don't understand their reasons, and you are probably incapable of understanding their reasons, and that's just fine.

People with children: Stop acting like there's something wrong or selfish about not wanting children. It's a perfectly valid choice that does not reflect negatively upon the person's character. Some people don't want children.

tl;dr: Don't be an asshole
 
2014-03-19 03:59:08 PM  

MadMattressMack: What made up crap am I spouting? Do you honestly believe that if it were legal for any person anywhere to go get a late term abortion that it wouldn't happen? Diffuculty: you must include Florida and drug addicts.

I know it's not legal for that crap to happen and agree with the current laws that prohibit it. But without said laws, do you really think it would never happen?

And Dr. Tiller definitely wasn't murdered for the crap I'm spouting. He was murdered by an schizo who thought he was doing something that he wasn't - namely providing illegal late term abortions.


No, nobody thinks anyone would go through a pregnancy just to have a late term abortion. The notion is simply absurd. And the fact that people think people would, or that doctors would provide them "just because" is precisely why Dr. Tiller was murdered. Because people think that there is a demand for, and people are obtaining, late term abortions when that could not be further from the truth.  The fact that it was someone with schizophrenia (not sure if that is even true) would make it worse because they'd be more likely to believe the lies.
 
Ant
2014-03-19 04:00:22 PM  

sigdiamond2000: I do too, but for some people, there is no good reason not to have children. A lot of people can't even process the concept of not wanting children, so they assume something is wrong with people who don't.


Those people are called 'assholes'

I have an 8-year-old son, and I can't imagine life without him now, but I fully understand why some people wouldn't want kids. It does not make them any more or less human in my mind.
 
2014-03-19 04:00:49 PM  

Satan's Bunny Slippers: elgrancerdo: But don't get all offended if you are being asked this questions

It's none of your farking business, Mr "I'll choose only good people"

Fark off.  And don't forget your kids.


I did not ask you, SBS specifically, these questions.  You volunteered an answer before I even approached you and asked.  My only purpose on this post was to exemplify that the questions have to do with how to choose people with similar interests, not necessarily "only good people".  I say that because I know plenty of Christians that I do not hang out with because they are Republican, do not drink and dance and spend their days criticizing other people.  To them, I am not good people.  I avoid that kind of people like the scum they are.
 
Ant
2014-03-19 04:04:47 PM  

Nabb1: and some of those angry comments she highlighted were directed at her calling children "time-sucking monsters"


Yeah, that was a little too much, but it'd be worse if it was coming from someone who actually had kids.
 
2014-03-19 04:05:17 PM  

ERNesbitt: someonelse: ERNesbitt: Pincy: bunner: "I don't want to have babies!"

"That works for me."


"But I totally want a stiff one in my girl place, like, a LOT!"


"Good luck to you."


Next attention whore, please.


And some tea.

I think we can all agree that women who like sex are morally reprehensible.

Just the ones who broadcast it ironically.

I need that explained.

Scenario 1: Extols the virtue of feminine principles and independence from the sexist regime; finds a "weak" partner onto which she can project her anger. (becomes the thing she claims to hate)

Scenario 2: Talks the talk, but gets all gooey when her pretentious, holier than though, boyfriend shows up... manages to convince herself that she wants to do and believe the same things he does. Secretly scared of being alone. (words and actions are in opposition)

Scenario 3: Completely normal person with a made-up online persona who says/does things for shock value, clicks, and attention. (hollow words with no substantial action)

tl;dr - You can't throw rocks at the boys with your friends and then sneak over for kissing games when it's dark.


Can I use the trashcan shield to stop the rock throwing, and then go play kissing games?
Seriously. What is with kids and throwing rocks?
 
2014-03-19 04:05:59 PM  

elgrancerdo: they are Republican, do not drink and dance and spend their days criticizing other people.  To them, I am not good people.  I avoid that kind of people like the scum they are.


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Check.
 
2014-03-19 04:07:09 PM  

tlars699: What is with kids and throwing rocks?


Nobody with any ethics will sell them guns.
 
2014-03-19 04:07:55 PM  

serpent_sky: As of now, the law of the land is abortion is a legal medical procedure, whether or not some people disagree with it. If you're arguing that maybe one day abortion will be illegal because some people disagree with it, I guess you have a point, I'll concede that much, but no more. Though I certainly hope that day never comes.


Well I always assumed that changing the laws was the whole point behind the "Pro-Life" movement. I mean, sure, a pro-lifer can (and does) run around shouting nonsense at people going into abortion clinics, that's their right, everyone is allowed to act like an inconsiderate arsehole, but the whole point of debating, protesting and lobbying representatives is to get the law changed.

/For the record, more pro-choice than pro-life myself
//would not mind Roe v. Wade being over turned and letting the states decide
///but I'm a small gubmint libertarian\conservative that way.
 
2014-03-19 04:10:46 PM  
I'm a thirty year old sterile female. I had a tubal ligation and uterine ablation done. I cannot have kids and if I somehow got pregnant, I cannot safely carry to term. I have no children. I have chosen to be childless.

This gets me unending shiat at work. At one point I had to go to my supervisor because someone i got stuck working with would not drop the topic. People just get really, really shirty when you choose not to have children.

I think it's because it pokes holes in their worldview.
 
Ant
2014-03-19 04:12:00 PM  

Philibuster: My wife and I get constantly asked when we are going to have kids. She's 28 I'm 29, and we have absolutely no interest in having them. She works with kids daily, and I work with sick kids daily, that is more than enough for us.

I have heard everything on the bingo board at least twice...I don't understand what is so damn interesting about my reproductive status for uninvolved parties.


Even if you do have a kid someday, they'll still bug you about having more.

Us: "One is enough for us"
Them: "But he needs a little brother or sister!"
Us: "Nope"
Them: "That's a shame"
 
2014-03-19 04:12:26 PM  

serpent_sky: No, nobody thinks anyone would go through a pregnancy just to have a late term abortion. The notion is simply absurd. And the fact that people think people would, or that doctors would provide them "just because" is precisely why Dr. Tiller was murdered. Because people think that there is a demand for, and people are obtaining, late term abortions when that could not be further from the truth.  The fact that it was someone with schizophrenia (not sure if that is even true) would make it worse because they'd be more likely to believe the lies.


OK, now I will go look it up examples as apparently it is that hard for people to believe (it was hard to find reputable sources as most were articles by pro-life groups):

http://www.walb.com/story/24691279/valdosta-doctor-arrested-extradic te d-from-germany

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/18/us/pennsylvania-abortion-doctor/

It's not common, it's illegal, and most people would never do such a thing. But to discount the possibility entirely is foolish.
 
2014-03-19 04:12:58 PM  

CanisNoir: Well I always assumed that changing the laws was the whole point behind the "Pro-Life" movement. I mean, sure, a pro-lifer can (and does) run around shouting nonsense at people going into abortion clinics, that's their right, everyone is allowed to act like an inconsiderate arsehole, but the whole point of debating, protesting and lobbying representatives is to get the law changed.

/For the record, more pro-choice than pro-life myself
//would not mind Roe v. Wade being over turned and letting the states decide


A lot of women in red states would die from back alley abortions/taking crazy pills/whatever to attempt to terminate pregnancy, though. That's the concern, for me, and why I think we need a federal law ensuring the right to abortion.

I'm not for *big* government, but if I had my way, some things would just be federally mandated because we'll literally end up with two countries otherwise - a true divide of red and blue. I think gay marriage should be federally approved across the board, as should protections for GLBT people, and abortion as well. Marijuana (all drugs, really) should be legalized, as should prostitution.

It will very unlikely happen, but given the lay of the land, it's not like we can cut the country in half and make two. And you could have a liberal utopia next to a conservative hellhole (depending on your views, though I think mine are pretty clear) and it would just be a huge mess. Worse than it is now. That's why I think Roe V. Wade is so important.
 
2014-03-19 04:14:18 PM  

elgrancerdo: I hate to do this to you all, but unfortunately someone has to tell you:

Self awareness that you are self absorbed, and be able to communicate it to breeders asking "how come?", proves the point of the breeders that there is something wrong with you.  Because, no matter how much you state it as a fact, I mean, listen to yourself: "I can't have children because I hate children", "I would not make a good dad/mom", "I am too self absorbed to give time to children", "I have too many activities helping other children for me to have my own", "I love children, but I also love that they leave eventually", "parenting is a 24/7 job and it is not for me", and my favorite "why should I be required by law to change someone else's dirty diaper".

It has been said that nobody has more love than the person who is willing to die for friends.  The root of this comment goes down to the issue of how much are you willing to give of yourself for somebody else without expecting anything in return.  If you love a woman/man, you must likely get a sexual orgasm, but with children you may not only not receive anything, but the added heartache and disappointment may come as well, even if you did everything "right" in your opinion.  What gets me is that there are so many people lately that find it OK not to give of themselves to someone else for the sake of just doing it.  Their definition of love is obviously different.  And that is what is wrong with them.

I find it interesting to ask why you don't have children not because I want to pressure you into having them.  I want to know if I need to avoid you (worst case) or how to deal with you appropriately.  Not all people who don't want to have children are assholes, some are truly beautiful that want to be accepted into any group and don't mind listening to your tantrum stories and looking at your facebook pictures.  But don't get all offended if you are being asked this questions.  First of all, you don't have to answer them if you don't fee ...


2/10, I think you'll get some bites on the insinuating people that don't want to have kids have something wrong with them.
 
2014-03-19 04:15:03 PM  
Don't worry Ms. Blogger. Any Bicycle with half a brain will pedal away from you, you cold fish. Just don't whine about it in 20 years.

/Do the world a favor and donate your ovaries.
//They are literally worth a fortune.
 
2014-03-19 04:17:28 PM  
Amanda Marcotte in her own words:

"Well, let me just put a stop to this shiat right now. You can give me gold-plated day care and an awesome public school right on the street corner and start paying me 15% more at work, and I still do not want a baby. I don't particularly like babies. They are loud and smelly and, above all other things, demanding. No matter how much free day care you throw at women, babies are still time-sucking monsters with their constant neediness. No matter how flexible you make my work schedule, my entire life would be overturned by a baby. I like  my life how it is, with my ability to do what I want when I want without having to arrange for a babysitter. I like being able to watchTrue Detective right now and not wait until baby is in bed. I like sex in any room of the house I please. I don't want a baby. I've heard your pro-baby arguments. Glad those work for you, but they are unconvincing to me. Nothing will make me want a baby.

"And don't float "adoption" as an answer. Adoption? fark you, seriously. I am not turning my body over for nine months of gaining weight and puking and being tired and suffering and not being able to sleep on my side and going to the hospital for a bout of misery and pain so that some couple I don't know and probably don't even like can have a baby. I don't owe that couple a free couch to sleep on while they come to my city to check out the local orphans, so I sure as shiat don't own them my  body. I like drinking alcohol and eating soft cheese. I like not having a giant growth protruding out of my stomach. I hate hospitals and like not having stretch marks. We don't even force men to donate sperm-a largely pleasurable activity with no physical cost-so forcing women to donate babies is reprehensible.

"This is why, if my birth control fails, I am totally having an abortion. Given the choice between living my life how I please and having my body within my control and the fate of a lentil-sized, brainless embryo that has half a chance of dying on its own anyway, I choose me."

I really don't give two shiats whether anyone wants kids or not, wants to have an abortion or not-- family planning is a topic for the people planning that family. But this chick is a coont.
 
2014-03-19 04:19:17 PM  

serpent_sky: MadMattressMack: What made up crap am I spouting? Do you honestly believe that if it were legal for any person anywhere to go get a late term abortion that it wouldn't happen? Diffuculty: you must include Florida and drug addicts.

I know it's not legal for that crap to happen and agree with the current laws that prohibit it. But without said laws, do you really think it would never happen?

And Dr. Tiller definitely wasn't murdered for the crap I'm spouting. He was murdered by an schizo who thought he was doing something that he wasn't - namely providing illegal late term abortions.

No, nobody thinks anyone would go through a pregnancy just to have a late term abortion. The notion is simply absurd. And the fact that people think people would, or that doctors would provide them "just because" is precisely why Dr. Tiller was murdered. Because people think that there is a demand for, and people are obtaining, late term abortions when that could not be further from the truth.  The fact that it was someone with schizophrenia (not sure if that is even true) would make it worse because they'd be more likely to believe the lies.


It is infuriating to me that people have such a disconnect when it comes to this issue. Violence against reproductive healthcare providers is always fueled by lies and it is very serious. People are literally risking their lives to make sure women have access to basic healthcare which would take place in a hospital for free in most other developed nations. Clinics are bombed, workers are shot, one guy tried to drive a car into a clinic but got stopped by the concrete barriers they had.

It's insane and disgusting.
 
2014-03-19 04:19:38 PM  

MadMattressMack: http://www.walb.com/story/24691279/valdosta-doctor-arrested-extradic te d-from-germany

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/18/us/pennsylvania-abortion-doctor/

It's not common, it's illegal, and most people would never do such a thing. But to discount the possibility entirely is foolish.


Kenneth Gosnell was a particularly sadistic monster who nobody on the pro-choice side of things would even consider supporting.  How anyone would even agree to a procedure in a clinic that sounds like something straight out of "American Horror Story" is beyond me. But he is a horrible person who clearly has some serious mental issues.  But that's one guy. ONE crazy guy out of the thousands of doctors who provide safe, sterile, legal abortions. He kept body parts in jars and shoe boxes. That's a horror movie serial killer, not a doctor.

Using him as the poster boy for abortion is disingenuous and considering that most doctors who perform abortions are OB/GYNS, the vast majority would never agree to do anything like what he did.
 
2014-03-19 04:20:01 PM  

Ringshadow: I'm a thirty year old sterile female. I had a tubal ligation and uterine ablation done. I cannot have kids and if I somehow got pregnant, I cannot safely carry to term. I have no children. I have chosen to be childless.

This gets me unending shiat at work. At one point I had to go to my supervisor because someone i got stuck working with would not drop the topic. People just get really, really shirty when you choose not to have children.

I think it's because it pokes holes in their worldview.


The other half of this coin are the people who are trying to have kids, but haven't succeeded, and are fed up with answering questions that are really nobody's business.
Good on you for taking it to your supervisor.
 
2014-03-19 04:20:05 PM  

Mitch Taylor's Bro: genner: DArque Bishop: the ha ha guy: GanjSmokr: "The official line of anti-choicers..."

I'm pro-choice, but saying "pro-lifers" are "anti-choicers" is about as stupid as saying "pro-choicers" are "anti-lifers".

Pro-choice = "It's your choice to terminate the pregnancy."
Pro-life = "Your pregnancy must be maintained at all costs."
Anti-choice = "You don't have a choice, you must have children or you're a failure as a human being."

Anti-life =

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Both terms are propaganda. We should just call them pro-aboriton and and anti-abortion.

I'm down wit dat.


But do you have TIME fo' dat?
 
2014-03-19 04:20:14 PM  

Nabb1: After reading that article, I think she is making the right call because she comes off as way too self-absorbed to be a parent.


I was pleasantly surprised by how rational the article read and how her version of feminism was refreshingly about equality, rather than the male-bashing I have come to expect from "feminists."
 
2014-03-19 04:22:37 PM  

ginandbacon: It is infuriating to me that people have such a disconnect when it comes to this issue. Violence against reproductive healthcare providers is always fueled by lies and it is very serious. People are literally risking their lives to make sure women have access to basic healthcare which would take place in a hospital for free in most other developed nations. Clinics are bombed, workers are shot, one guy tried to drive a car into a clinic but got stopped by the concrete barriers they had.

It's insane and disgusting.


All in the name of being "pro-life" no less.

I know if I called myself "pro-life" I'd probably have a really hard time murdering or attempting to murder other adults. But these people don't.  The word "disconnect" isn't even strong enough here. In the name of being "pro life", they actually kill people.
 
2014-03-19 04:23:39 PM  
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Reblogging because holy shiat I think I've gotten every single one of these questions.
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2014-03-19 04:24:07 PM  

CanisNoir: udhq: To believe so, you also must believe that a woman who chooses to have sex surrenders the very ownership of her body to the government for the gestational period.

No, but I believe she is placing herself in that risk. Having unprotected sex drastically increases the odds one will get pregnant, don't like those odds, you know how to change the equation. We *should* be able to control our baser instincts no? So use some brains, think about the consequences of your actions and then act in a manner that decreases the odds of an unwanted outcome; really it's not that hard. If it means holding off sex for a day or so, I think you'll survive.


I think you shouldn't presume your moral dogma has any place in anybody else's decision to have sex or not.
 
2014-03-19 04:24:20 PM  
...and with that, darlings, it's time for me to head out of here. Been fun, as always.
 
2014-03-19 04:30:03 PM  

serpent_sky: A lot of women in red states would die from back alley abortions/taking crazy pills/whatever to attempt to terminate pregnancy, though. That's the concern, for me, and why I think we need a federal law ensuring the right to abortion.


And I would prefer a better more focused adoption and foster care program instead of abortion. If it's a choice twixt mothers life and unborn lil one, then yea, abort that biatch; however, I also think that there is now an air of permissiveness that has contributed greatly to our "young unwed single parent" syndrom that is a large contributer to the poverty levels, neglected children and other assorted problems in society.
So in that sense, I don't see the pro-lifers as being such bad people because, it just might cause people to think twice about the consequences of their actions.
 
2014-03-19 04:31:12 PM  
rzrwiresunrise: 

Okay- I get that she calls them time sucking Monsters. Truth be told they are, really. I love them and they're cuddly, but they pull your hair and sometimes will cry for no reason, and they ARE time-suckers, and needy because (DUH) they're a baby.

And she's very selfish, and protective of her time/her choices.

But the real people who are coonts who think in this manner, and decide to have the baby they made accidentally anyway, and do not change their behavior in any way, shape or form.

She is not a coont; she's biatchy, but she owns the biatchiness.
 
2014-03-19 04:31:14 PM  

serpent_sky: MadMattressMack: http://www.walb.com/story/24691279/valdosta-doctor-arrested-extradic te d-from-germany

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/18/us/pennsylvania-abortion-doctor/

It's not common, it's illegal, and most people would never do such a thing. But to discount the possibility entirely is foolish.

Kenneth Gosnell was a particularly sadistic monster who nobody on the pro-choice side of things would even consider supporting.  How anyone would even agree to a procedure in a clinic that sounds like something straight out of "American Horror Story" is beyond me. But he is a horrible person who clearly has some serious mental issues.  But that's one guy. ONE crazy guy out of the thousands of doctors who provide safe, sterile, legal abortions. He kept body parts in jars and shoe boxes. That's a horror movie serial killer, not a doctor.

Using him as the poster boy for abortion is disingenuous and considering that most doctors who perform abortions are OB/GYNS, the vast majority would never agree to do anything like what he did.


Very, very true. I'm just using him as an extreme example to support my point: that it is possible for that crap to happen. I do us him to show any sort of comparison to how the industry in the extreme majority operates, but if there are people who are willing to get "but lifts" from a guy in a van who's using fix a flat then they're some out there who're willing to do just about anything. That means you have to consider them as well and is why there are laws.

Which is why in my original post I said I agree with abortions to a point and was told my line of thought is why Dr. Tiller got murdered.
 
2014-03-19 04:32:25 PM  

MadMattressMack: I do not use him to show any sort of comparison to how the industry in the extreme majority operates


FTFM - keyboard glitched on me
 
2014-03-19 04:32:27 PM  

tlars699: but she owns the biatchiness.


I dare say it would be somewhat likely to languish on the open market.
 
2014-03-19 04:35:11 PM  

Ringshadow: [7deadlysinners.typepad.com image 400x462]

Reblogging because holy shiat I think I've gotten every single one of these questions.
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I've bred, am gestating, and find the breeder bingo posits both present at my workplace, and semi-reprehensible.
I mean- children are a woman's greatest acheivement? REALLY?
 
2014-03-19 04:37:21 PM  

bunner: tlars699: but she owns the biatchiness.

I dare say it would be somewhat likely to languish on the open market.


Only on the trading floor. I know that as a small operation, she'll be likely to get tons of customers based on the "You have to be a biatch to succeed" mantra. Kind of like Spanx- which would probably become a merger or an affiliated company.
 
2014-03-19 04:37:39 PM  

CanisNoir: verbaltoxin: Argumentum ad populum. Really? Because some people are squicked out by it and their church says no, then it's not birth control?

No, it's not birth control because even the pro-choice side realizes that trying to claim abortion as birth control is stupid and would quickly lose them any moral high ground they had.


It's the "nuclear option" of birth control, but it should still be on the table, available and as safe as possible for women to choose if they want to.
 
2014-03-19 04:38:42 PM  

udhq: I think you shouldn't presume your moral dogma has any place in anybody else's decision to have sex or not.


Nobody is talking about whether or not you or anyone else has sex, they're talking about taking responsability for your actions. It's not like the fact that sex can cause pregnancy is some huge big secret that you're surprised with when it happens. So, take care to wrap it up, or what ever other contraception methods you want, and odds are very good you won't have a problem. Sure, contraception doesn't work 100% of the time, guess what, life's not fair, it works enough that risking killing another human being because you're afraid you might be the .01% outlier is ludicrous.
 
2014-03-19 04:40:00 PM  
I don't know how to break this to the female population but "I have a huge stick up my ass and you better be worried about it!" sort of got it's third coat of "how nice" years ago.   Years.  Like older that Oprah's stretch marks.  No man worth your time even pays attention to that anymore, let alone puts a penny in the fare box.
 
2014-03-19 04:44:41 PM  
Elegy:

For two, this is on her PUBLIC blog and her PUBLIC twitter feed. If she doesn't want social interaction, private your social media. The internet is the world's largest bathroom wall and billboard all rolled into one. Don't want commentary? Don't write on the wall where everyone can see it.


You - and a hell of a lot of other people on this thread - are missing the point of the article.  It wasn't that she was mad that people had reacted, it was that the reactions showed that the pro-lifers' motivation isn't life, it's control of women's sexuality.  Now, there's probably a counter-argument to be made there, but that's what she was getting at, not "boo hoo, they were mean to me."
 
2014-03-19 04:46:09 PM  

tlars699: The other half of this coin are the people who are trying to have kids, but haven't succeeded, and are fed up with answering questions that are really nobody's business.
Good on you for taking it to your supervisor.


I've actually just tried to claim that i can't have kids instead of flat out stating I've been sterilized. It doesn't usually work. So far, nine out of ten dudes are utterly cool with me not having kids (me gusta faces are common), but about four out of ten dudettes lose their shiat at me. I don't like getting supervision involved, trust me. The one time I had to, it was a guy and it was so I didn't punch him out because I have no idea why he thought any of what he said was okay.

The setup was I was waiting to survey a piece of equipment but my survey was dependent on another department's work, so I couldn't leave. I was stuck there for over an hour with this guy, who was going to work on the equipment after I did my thing. So we're both stuck there. Keep in mind this guy is a total stranger to me.

Dude: So are you married.
Me: No.
Him: Kids?
Me: No.
Him: Why not?
Me: Why not what?
Him: Why don't you have kids?
Me: *wtf stare* I'm not married, and I can't have kids.
Him: You don't know that!
Me: I do.
Him: You can't know that.
Me: Yes, I do. Because I paid ten grand making sure of the fact.
Him: What.
Me: Consider this my formal request to drop the topic.
Him: But everyone needs kids! I have seven kids!
Me: Good for you.
Him: That just really makes me wonder about your doctor, I mean you're a healthy..
Me: I'm sorry what? Are you insulting a medical professional who dared listen to my opinion?

At that point work actually happened. I was willing to let it go. UNTIL.

Him: Next time I see you, I want to see you with a wedding ring on your finger and your belly like this. *pregnant belly arm gesture
Me: *RRRAAAAAGE*

So, once we're back in the offices.

Supervisor: How did it go?
Me: ahahh HAHAHAHAHAHAH.
Supervisor: Uh oh.
Me: Please talk to him or I'll be having HR talk to him.

Dude never looked at me again.

/long not so cool story sis.
 
2014-03-19 04:50:31 PM  

Osomatic: it was that the reactions showed that the pro-lifers' motivation isn't life, it's control of women's sexuality


It is my assertion that, by and large, the preponderance of the public or any given subset therefrom is ~astoundingly~ uninterested in what people do as long as it doesn't cost them money.  Let alone willing to put any time into controlling it.
 
2014-03-19 04:51:11 PM  

tlars699: Mitch Taylor's Bro: genner: DArque Bishop: the ha ha guy: GanjSmokr: "The official line of anti-choicers..."

I'm pro-choice, but saying "pro-lifers" are "anti-choicers" is about as stupid as saying "pro-choicers" are "anti-lifers".

Pro-choice = "It's your choice to terminate the pregnancy."
Pro-life = "Your pregnancy must be maintained at all costs."
Anti-choice = "You don't have a choice, you must have children or you're a failure as a human being."

Anti-life =

[img.fark.net image 400x300]

Both terms are propaganda. We should just call them pro-aboriton and and anti-abortion.

I'm down wit dat.
 Problem:
Even people who get abortions think they suck.
So in reality nobody really likes abortion, unless they like dead babies.

If we had a way to have the body reabsorb the kid, ie vanishing twin syndrome, it would be a better solution.


Problem: nothing you posted makes any sense.
 
2014-03-19 04:55:47 PM  
I've been married for 16yrs people often ask me why I don't have children, I tell them I'm trying to leave the world a better place than the one I was born into.
 
2014-03-19 04:56:46 PM  

ginandbacon: serpent_sky: ginandbacon: To believe it would is frankly bizarre. There are only 3? (I think--it might be 2) doctors who have clinics for late term abortions and they are medical procedures that are emergencies and devastating for the parents who have to go through them.

Nobody goes through 8.5 months of pregnancy and all the associated horrors and woes and says "ya know what? I changed my mind." It just doesn't happen. It's a sick fantasy of the anti-choice movement that women everywhere are getting JUST to the point of going into labor, and running off to evil abortion clinics who can't wait to abort that about to be born baby. They even set a clock to see if they can beat it. And then they take the products of that last second abortion, roast it over a fire  (and that's the ONLY way it can be prepared, it's part of the ritual) and all partake in a joyous late-term abortion feast.

In reality, anyone having an abortion in the third trimester is going through some serious shiat and is likely to die without said abortion, assuming there is even anything close to alive inside them. And they're having a hard time because they almost carried their pregnancy to term and there were literally no other options at that point. Those people, everyone should feel bad for, not use them as examples of run of the mill abortions that are not even close to developed babies.

You said it perfectly.

Except I thought the fetuses were braised, not roasted? Have I been doing it wrong all these years? Dammit. I have to turn in my feminazi card, don't I?


No, but you do have to move into a Feminazi® re-education camp until such thinking can be corrected. Braised? What kind of savage are you? :-)
 
2014-03-19 04:58:25 PM  

bunner: I don't know how to break this to the female population but "I have a huge stick up my ass and you better be worried about it!" sort of got it's third coat of "how nice" years ago.   Years.  Like older that Oprah's stretch marks.  No man worth your time even pays attention to that anymore, let alone puts a penny in the fare box.


Duly noted. I'll bring it up at the next meeting. Feel free to add any further edicts about how you think females should behave.
 
2014-03-19 05:01:25 PM  

someonelse: Duly noted. I'll bring it up at the next meeting. Feel free to add any further edicts about how you think females should behave.


Civilly.   :  )  Please feel free to continue to magically permutate observations into edicts.  It's edgy.
 
2014-03-19 05:06:32 PM  

Mitch Taylor's Bro: ginandbacon: serpent_sky: ginandbacon: To believe it would is frankly bizarre. There are only 3? (I think--it might be 2) doctors who have clinics for late term abortions and they are medical procedures that are emergencies and devastating for the parents who have to go through them.

Nobody goes through 8.5 months of pregnancy and all the associated horrors and woes and says "ya know what? I changed my mind." It just doesn't happen. It's a sick fantasy of the anti-choice movement that women everywhere are getting JUST to the point of going into labor, and running off to evil abortion clinics who can't wait to abort that about to be born baby. They even set a clock to see if they can beat it. And then they take the products of that last second abortion, roast it over a fire  (and that's the ONLY way it can be prepared, it's part of the ritual) and all partake in a joyous late-term abortion feast.

In reality, anyone having an abortion in the third trimester is going through some serious shiat and is likely to die without said abortion, assuming there is even anything close to alive inside them. And they're having a hard time because they almost carried their pregnancy to term and there were literally no other options at that point. Those people, everyone should feel bad for, not use them as examples of run of the mill abortions that are not even close to developed babies.

You said it perfectly.

Except I thought the fetuses were braised, not roasted? Have I been doing it wrong all these years? Dammit. I have to turn in my feminazi card, don't I?

No, but you do have to move into a Feminazi® re-education camp until such thinking can be corrected. Braised? What kind of savage are you? :-)


I didn't get the memo!!!!!! I hope they have nice sheets at this camp.
 
2014-03-19 05:08:46 PM  

Loaf's Tray: Mitch Taylor's Bro: genner: DArque Bishop: the ha ha guy: GanjSmokr: "The official line of anti-choicers..."

I'm pro-choice, but saying "pro-lifers" are "anti-choicers" is about as stupid as saying "pro-choicers" are "anti-lifers".

Pro-choice = "It's your choice to terminate the pregnancy."
Pro-life = "Your pregnancy must be maintained at all costs."
Anti-choice = "You don't have a choice, you must have children or you're a failure as a human being."

Anti-life =

[img.fark.net image 400x300]

Both terms are propaganda. We should just call them pro-aboriton and and anti-abortion.

I'm down wit dat.

But do you have TIME fo' dat?


Ain't NObody got time fo' dat! :-)

I believe "pro-choice" is a more honest "newspeak" term, but pro-life is largely a farce.*

* There are some pro-life advocates who actually house and care for expectant and new mothers. All they ask is that you listen to their religious recruitment. But most are quite satisfied with preventing women who want to have abortions from having them, then it's mostly "hey, you got yourself into this, you deal with the consequences."
 
2014-03-19 05:14:33 PM  

People_are_Idiots: As far as "free" preschool, A kid taught right doesn't need preschool


Tell that to all the children killed by their caregivers before being old enough for school. Getting children into regular social contact with people outside their families is one of the best and cheapest ways to protect them from abuses of all sorts and should be done as early as possible. It doesn't have to be anything like "school" but we should not force children to live in isolation for the 6 most vulnerable years of their lives.

It's also worth noting that not every kid has the opportunity to be "taught right" by whoever happened to spawn them. We shouldn't punish children for having bad parents; we should ensure that all children are "taught right" even if their parents are unable or unwilling.
 
2014-03-19 05:15:35 PM  

CanisNoir: udhq: I think you shouldn't presume your moral dogma has any place in anybody else's decision to have sex or not.

Nobody is talking about whether or not you or anyone else has sex, they're talking about taking responsability for your actions. It's not like the fact that sex can cause pregnancy is some huge big secret that you're surprised with when it happens. So, take care to wrap it up, or what ever other contraception methods you want, and odds are very good you won't have a problem. Sure, contraception doesn't work 100% of the time, guess what, life's not fair, it works enough that risking killing another human being because you're afraid you might be the .01% outlier is ludicrous.


You know what? If you believe in having things be anti-abortion, then you should invest in research into female anatomy and gestation.
Miscarriages happen frequently, with devastating effects on the parents/females involved, and the medical community most of the time has no clue as to why one fetus will succeed and another won't.

Perhaps through their findings, there will turn out to be a better option than abortions, and more effective than birth control.
Up until then, though, you should really stay out of other people's personal lives/choices on what they do with their body.
(Note: when they do an effectiveness study, they are only conducted over a time-span of 12 months, and with changes in hormone levels, some bodies can become adjusted to those levels over a longer span of time, and as a result the BC method can become not as effective as touted. Also, for 70% of a population of 1000, the pull-out method resulted in no pregnancies for the same period of time/studies conducted.)
 
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