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2014-03-19 02:28:13 PM

ginandbacon: This conversation isn't about children. It's about women and how free or not they are. Having children is a leading cause of poverty in this country for women. We do not have free preschools run by the government. We do not offer paid maternity leave. Pregnancy is very hard on women physically and is actually more dangerous than abortions. And children are insanely expensive.


Uhm, might point this out. Without children, we won't have a healthy society of smart people. Idiocracy in action.

As far as "free" preschool, A kid taught right doesn't need preschool, plus it takes away from them BEING a kid (heard instances of preschool starting as soon as they're out of diapers). Paid/maternity leave? Depends on where you work (my place offers 6-12 months paid maternity leave, and some places even offer 6 months for the man if he chooses to go with his wife). There is also FMLA to back you up (a federal program).
 
2014-03-19 02:28:56 PM

Utter Genius: Except she didn't simply state she "doesn't want to have children". She wrote a deliberately-provocative article describing children as time-consuming monsters, then went into damsel-in-distress mode the moment the people she provoked fired invective back at her.

In other words she's a click-baiting troll.


Maybe she's just cranky because it's her time of the month.

\she may not be a very good writer, but she is correct
\\children are time-(and money-) consuming monsters
 
2014-03-19 02:29:20 PM

sigdiamond2000: reprobate1125: I think that recognizing that you're too self-absorbed to have children is a good thing.

I do too, but for some people, there is no good reason not to have children. A lot of people can't even process the concept of not wanting children, so they assume something is wrong with people who don't.


And I agree with both of you.  Whether or not one does, or does not, have children is no one's business but that person's.  And people who have a problem with that are, well, the ones with the problem.
 
2014-03-19 02:30:05 PM

El Freak: Philibuster: My wife and I get constantly asked when we are going to have kids. She's 28 I'm 29, and we have absolutely no interest in having them. She works with kids daily, and I work with sick kids daily, that is more than enough for us.

I have heard everything on the bingo board at least twice...I don't understand what is so damn interesting about my reproductive status for uninvolved parties.

It's my theory that the people that run down those who do not wish to have children are usually people who've had children, but cannot bring themselves to admit that they wish they hadn't. I'm 38,like being alone,  have never liked children and I know that if I ever did have one I would resent it and would want nothing at all to do with it. Yes, I'm probably an asshole, but at least I have the self awareness enough to know that I have absolutely no business being responsible for a child. That sure shuts 'em up when people start telling me how much I'm going to regret not having kids though.


I think your theory is often correct. However, I also know a few very vocal "anti-kids" types who are obviously talking that way to either rationalize not having kids or not being able to sustain a relationship in order to have kids. I haven't seen this with guys much but have had two encounters with drunk and crying "baby haters" who were upset over not having kids. The next day they were back to their sober selves.

We humans do a lot of things to make ourselves feel better. Living in regret is very cruel to do to oneself... Kids or no kids.
 
2014-03-19 02:30:23 PM

DArque Bishop: the ha ha guy: GanjSmokr: "The official line of anti-choicers..."

I'm pro-choice, but saying "pro-lifers" are "anti-choicers" is about as stupid as saying "pro-choicers" are "anti-lifers".

Pro-choice = "It's your choice to terminate the pregnancy."
Pro-life = "Your pregnancy must be maintained at all costs."
Anti-choice = "You don't have a choice, you must have children or you're a failure as a human being."

Anti-life =

[img.fark.net image 400x300]


Both terms are propaganda. We should just call them pro-aboriton and and anti-abortion.
 
2014-03-19 02:30:25 PM

vartian: Nabb1: After reading that article, I think she is making the right call because she comes off as way too self-absorbed to be a parent.

Which is exactly why I am never going to have kids. I wish more people would be honest with themselves about parenthood.


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Agrees.
 
2014-03-19 02:30:31 PM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Boo_Guy: would also park in expectant mothers spots if I didn't care about getting keyed.

I do this ALL the time. Seriously, they're just knocked up, not crippled; I don't think it'll kill them to walk a few extra feet.


Ohhhhh fark you.
 
2014-03-19 02:30:35 PM

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The real version of this is available to buy here;
http://www.familystickers.com/money-stickers.html#wmiBox

/not my site, no affiliation,  etcetera..
 
2014-03-19 02:31:13 PM
Clearly this is survival of the fittest at work.

-Woman tries to do something besides be in the kitchen, pumping out babies, etc, etc.
-Woman decides children are "time sucking little monsters"
-Woman has no desire to reproduce, thus ensuring her feminist genes do not get passed on.

I see no problem here.
 
2014-03-19 02:32:16 PM

CanisNoir: I think the major problem most had with this persons decisions was that despite saying she never wanted children, she would still rather kill an unborn child rather than get her tubes tied.


I don't see why she should be forced to undergo a risky and invasive operation to satisfy someone else's moral hangups.
 
2014-03-19 02:32:29 PM

mod3072: She seems like a pleasant person.

That being said, who gives a fark whether or not other people choose to have children? I don't give a crap if you don't want kids, and I don't need you sneering at me and calling me a "breeder" because I chose to have a family. Maybe we should all just concentrate a little more on our own lives and stop trying to tell everyone else how to live theirs.


But, but...how can you validate your choices if not by insisting that others choose the same way?
 
2014-03-19 02:33:40 PM

serpent_sky: Yet they keep pushing. And that's why people who decided to not have kids -- for whatever reason -- get pissed off. I don't walk around asking everyone with a kid why they had one, or why they had three, why does my choice matter so much to them?


Maybe we should try this and then they'll start to leave us alone.

/kidding
//they'll never leave us alone
 
2014-03-19 02:33:42 PM
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racist
 
2014-03-19 02:35:34 PM
Breeders, gonna breed and try to make you pay for their crotch spoils.
 
2014-03-19 02:36:52 PM

Strategeryz0r: Clearly this is survival of the fittest at work.

-Woman tries to do something besides be in the kitchen, pumping out babies, etc, etc.
-Woman decides children are "time sucking little monsters"
-Woman has no desire to reproduce, thus ensuring her feminist genes do not get passed on.

I see no problem here.



And unfortunately, the guy who thinks that feminism is hereditary has a sack full of semen and a hairpin trigger.

/Don't pass that bad info on to your kids
 
2014-03-19 02:37:33 PM

albatros183: Breeders, gonna breed and try to make you pay for their crotch spoils.


All part of living in civilization. Cough up.
 
2014-03-19 02:37:35 PM

serpent_sky: Hysterectomies also wreak HAVOC on the woman's system, because it prematurely alters her hormonal balance. I asked about it many times, and was told "no competent doctor would perform a hysterectomy on any woman who did not have a serious health issue."


Of course they wouldn't. Why would you get a hysterectomy for birth control?! That's the equivalent of a man getting castrated instead of a vasectomy. If you get a hysterectomy, you need to take drugs to make up for all the hormones your body is no longer producing. What you should have asked for is a tubal ligation, which is the equivalent of a vasectomy in men. Snipping the fallopian tubes so that the sperm and eggs can never meet. In that case, you still have your period and all your lady bits so you still produce hormones.

You'll still have trouble finding a doctor to perform the procedure if you're under 30, but it can be done

/wife got her tubes tied in her 20s
 
2014-03-19 02:38:28 PM
 Prank Call of Cthulhu: Boo_Guy: would also park in expectant mothers spots if I didn't care about getting keyed.

I do this ALL the time. Seriously, they're just knocked up, not crippled; I don't think it'll kill them to walk a few extra feet.



It's a hobby of mine as well, especially at the store where they are closer to the store than the handicapped spaces. fark that noise.
 
2014-03-19 02:40:06 PM

Pincy: bunner: "I don't want to have babies!"

"That works for me."


"But I totally want a stiff one in my girl place, like, a LOT!"


"Good luck to you."


Next attention whore, please.


And some tea.

I think we can all agree that women who like sex are morally reprehensible.


Just the ones who broadcast it ironically. If she doesn't want children, good. Fewer chances of another entitled, whiny brat out there. The first time she tells a parent how they should treat their kid the backlash will be amazing.
 
2014-03-19 02:40:46 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Strategeryz0r: Clearly this is survival of the fittest at work.

-Woman tries to do something besides be in the kitchen, pumping out babies, etc, etc.
-Woman decides children are "time sucking little monsters"
-Woman has no desire to reproduce, thus ensuring her feminist genes do not get passed on.

I see no problem here.


And unfortunately, the guy who thinks that feminism is hereditary has a sack full of semen and a hairpin trigger.

/Don't pass that bad info on to your kids


I thought he was being facetious. But either way, I think we all realize the only thing he'll likely have the opportunity to impregnate is a sock.
 
2014-03-19 02:41:31 PM

Pincy: Unoriginal_Username: Rapmaster2000: Unoriginal_Username: People shouldn't care who has kids or who doesn't. My only question for her is this. If you don't want kids why not get your tubes tied? And doctors shouldn't be able to ask why, just do it. Same for guys getting a vasectomy. The reasons don't matter. It's what they want.

A hysterectomy costs about 10 grand with time off of work for recovery thrown in.  I'd say you're out about $15k on average.

A vasectomy makes more sense because it's reversible, you don't have final control over whether the child is birthed, and you're fertile for the rest of your life.

Sure it isn't cheap but if you are serious about it then why not cough up the money. Would it not be easier and cheaper in the long run? Using her logic, if her birth control failed she would get an abortion, how much do those run? And what happens if she gets pregnant again?

In my perfect world, tubals and vascetomies would be free.  Pro-lifers should support this as well because it would help reduce the number of abortions.


Oh, I agree. They should be done at no cost.  You don't want kids? Great, get fixed. No issue.  Simplest decision ever.

Plus, if those that get it done decide down the road that they want kids, adopt.
 
2014-03-19 02:42:02 PM

ERNesbitt: Pincy: bunner: "I don't want to have babies!"

"That works for me."


"But I totally want a stiff one in my girl place, like, a LOT!"


"Good luck to you."


Next attention whore, please.


And some tea.

I think we can all agree that women who like sex are morally reprehensible.

Just the ones who broadcast it ironically. If she doesn't want children, good. Fewer chances of another entitled, whiny brat out there. The first time she tells a parent how they should treat their kid the backlash will be amazing.


I need that explained.
 
2014-03-19 02:42:08 PM

miscreant: Of course they wouldn't. Why would you get a hysterectomy for birth control?! That's the equivalent of a man getting castrated instead of a vasectomy. If you get a hysterectomy, you need to take drugs to make up for all the hormones your body is no longer producing. What you should have asked for is a tubal ligation, which is the equivalent of a vasectomy in men. Snipping the fallopian tubes so that the sperm and eggs can never meet. In that case, you still have your period and all your lady bits so you still produce hormones.

You'll still have trouble finding a doctor to perform the procedure if you're under 30, but it can be done

/wife got her tubes tied in her 20s


A tubal is still a biatch to get at any age - Essure, too. 

I was actually referring to the person who said the author should get a hysterectomy without realizing that puts a woman into premature menopause and completely wrecks her hormonal balance.  Essure is far easier and less invasive than a tubal ligation. Still not easy to get on the off chance that you'll "change your mind."  Some doctors will do it, but the vast majority won't.

I actually stick with the pill because the one I take seems to help with my moods in a positive way, and I'll take that side effect any day.
 
2014-03-19 02:42:32 PM
I hate agreeing with Amanda Marcotte, because she's the kind of person who thinks all kids are money-sucking monsters until it's her child. I bet you dollars to donuts if she ever changes her mind or gets pregnant by accident, that's precisely what will happen.

/Seriously if you don't want kids, don't have them.
//It's nobody's business.
///And it being nobody's business goes both ways.
 
2014-03-19 02:42:41 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Who the fark are you or anyone to tell a woman what sort of birth control she HAS to use to be acceptable in your eyes? Again, who are the real self-absorbed people in this?


Well, considering I'm not one of the people who responded, this isn't about *me* but rather about what the responses were geared towards. Who are they to make that call? Members of society, and considering the question is, "are we killing someone with abortion or are we not" and that doesn't seem to be answered, then as members of society, they have a duty to weigh in on debates such as this.

Also, nobody is telling her what type of birth control she should use, just that Abortion is *not* and never has been a suitable form of Birth Control. (Because right around half the country feels it's killing another human being).
 
2014-03-19 02:43:10 PM

bunner: I hate to piss from a great height upon the new  Library of Alexandria, but isn't "stir up sh*t, sell ads by the hit count, watch people furiously revile your 'position' from behind their ISP" pretty most of the internet that isn't naked people and spam?


... and cats.
 
2014-03-19 02:44:56 PM

busy chillin': Ned Stark:

I propose rights beginning when your thinkmeats turn on.

search "pro rights sodahead" click on "Abortion: The third view."


Already cannibalized it for parts to build my outlook when I bailed on the pro-life movement. Thanks, though!
 
2014-03-19 02:45:37 PM

CanisNoir: (Because right around half the country feels it's killing another human being).


Until it's their unwanted pregnancy in question. Amazing how that works.
 
2014-03-19 02:46:10 PM

CanisNoir: DROxINxTHExWIND: Who the fark are you or anyone to tell a woman what sort of birth control she HAS to use to be acceptable in your eyes? Again, who are the real self-absorbed people in this?

Well, considering I'm not one of the people who responded, this isn't about *me* but rather about what the responses were geared towards. Who are they to make that call? Members of society, and considering the question is, "are we killing someone with abortion or are we not" and that doesn't seem to be answered, then as members of society, they have a duty to weigh in on debates such as this.

Also, nobody is telling her what type of birth control she should use, just that Abortion is *not* and never has been a suitable form of Birth Control. (Because right around half the country feels it's killing another human being).


Argumentum ad populum. Really? Because some people are squicked out by it and their church says no, then it's not birth control?

BULL. SH*T.
 
2014-03-19 02:46:36 PM
Pincy:I think we can all agree that women who like sex are morally reprehensible. 

No, it's just largely inconsequential as to the decisions that THEY make in pursuit of it.  Isn't it?  Your projector is broken and your straw mans i on fire.
 
2014-03-19 02:47:28 PM

Ned Stark: busy chillin': Ned Stark:

I propose rights beginning when your thinkmeats turn on.

search "pro rights sodahead" click on "Abortion: The third view."

Already cannibalized it for parts to build my outlook when I bailed on the pro-life movement. Thanks, though!


Not sure if I can call out another farker, but it was written by another farker. I was impressed with it as well.
 
2014-03-19 02:47:30 PM
unfortunately, the demographic that so often chooses not to have kids (secure incomes, well educated, good at self-evaluation and sound decision making) would ideally make the best parents.
 
2014-03-19 02:48:25 PM

ERNesbitt: bunner: I hate to piss from a great height upon the new  Library of Alexandria, but isn't "stir up sh*t, sell ads by the hit count, watch people furiously revile your 'position' from behind their ISP" pretty most of the internet that isn't naked people and spam?

... and cats.


Thank Jeebus for the kittehs, tr0o.
 
2014-03-19 02:48:26 PM

busy chillin': Mitch Taylor's Bro: TheExcalibur: Can't we just all agree anything with a heart beat legal birth certificate has rights and go from there?

This pro-choice pro-life rhetoric/garbage just hides the fact that no one wants to sit down and define what constitutes "life"

Okay, there you go. We cool?

OH GOD! OUR PRESIDENT ISN'T HUMAN!


:-)
 
2014-03-19 02:49:00 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: You know, everything doesn't deserve a response. The real issue here isn't this supposedly self-absorbed woman. The real story here is the little people who get ENRAGED and PROVOKED by someone expressing their opinion that children are monsters. HOW DARE SHE!!1!!!1!


Then I would say she achieved her goal since she wrote an article and a response seemingly designed to provoke the outrage of the "anti-choicers" she so obviously despised.

What the fark does anyone care for?
I don't, particularly. I read her response and the criticism directed against her. I read her original post. I think she's a self I loved attention whore trolling pro-lifers for click bait and to make herself feel important. You should know what that feels like - you're fark's elder statesman of trolling, after all.

In a more general sense, some people care about the environment, or animal welfare, or babies - all out of proportion to the actual impact said subject has on their lives. Film at 11 with news a hot Ric Romero.

How is she being "provacative"?
"Anti-choicers," "little monsters," etc. all while directly (attempting) to savage the people she doesn't like with what she thinks is scalding criticism.

Now, if she's self-absorbed, what do you call the person who goes to HER Twitter feed, sees an opinion that they disagree with and starts calling her all kinds of whores and lonely twats because they disagree?

Well, one, I scanned through those "horrible" twitter posts by the anti-choicers she posted, and I didn't see one person call her a whore. In fairness, I might have missed it because I don't rally care enough to go back.

For two, this is on her PUBLIC blog and her PUBLIC twitter feed. If she doesn't want social interaction, private your social media. The internet is the world's largest bathroom wall and billboard all rolled into one. Don't want commentary? Don't write on the wall where everyone can see it.

By your own logic, if I take a billboard and write "n-bombs are responsible for the decline of America," you don't get to comment on it. It's MY billboard. What are you reading it for?
 
2014-03-19 02:49:24 PM
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2014-03-19 02:49:33 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Strategeryz0r: Clearly this is survival of the fittest at work.

-Woman tries to do something besides be in the kitchen, pumping out babies, etc, etc.
-Woman decides children are "time sucking little monsters"
-Woman has no desire to reproduce, thus ensuring her feminist genes do not get passed on.

I see no problem here.


And unfortunately, the guy who thinks that feminism is hereditary has a sack full of semen and a hairpin trigger.

/Don't pass that bad info on to your kids


Didn't take long to get a nibble on that one. hahahahaa.
 
2014-03-19 02:49:44 PM

bunner: Mitch Taylor's Bro: TheExcalibur: Can't we just all agree anything with a heart beat legal birth certificate has rights and go from there?

This pro-choice pro-life rhetoric/garbage just hides the fact that no one wants to sit down and define what constitutes "life"

Okay, there you go. We cool?

So if your heart stops, call a lawyer?   :  )


Naw, my legal birth certificate would still grant me rights if my heart stops. (Or did you mean to respond to TheExcaliber?)
 
2014-03-19 02:50:14 PM

CanisNoir: Also, nobody is telling her what type of birth control she should use, just that Abortion is *not* and never has been a suitable form of Birth Control. (Because right around half the country feels it's killing another human being).


Why does that "right around half" get to say what the rest of us should do if we happen to get pregnant? Those of us who do not think a fetus is killing a human being?
 
2014-03-19 02:50:16 PM

People_are_Idiots: ginandbacon: This conversation isn't about children. It's about women and how free or not they are. Having children is a leading cause of poverty in this country for women. We do not have free preschools run by the government. We do not offer paid maternity leave. Pregnancy is very hard on women physically and is actually more dangerous than abortions. And children are insanely expensive.

Uhm, might point this out. Without children, we won't have a healthy society of smart people. Idiocracy in action.

As far as "free" preschool, A kid taught right doesn't need preschool, plus it takes away from them BEING a kid (heard instances of preschool starting as soon as they're out of diapers). Paid/maternity leave? Depends on where you work (my place offers 6-12 months paid maternity leave, and some places even offer 6 months for the man if he chooses to go with his wife). There is also FMLA to back you up (a federal program).


Sp women should risk poverty, their health, and often their sanity to repopulate the US? Are you insane? We are not broodmares.

Preschools exists to give parents a way to juggle young children and other responsibilities. And kids do just fine in them. Or are American children more delicate than they are in basically every other developed nation?

Paid maternity leave is very rare in the US. Only 12% of workers get paid family leave.

"in the 1990s, the US had the sixth-highest female labor force participation rate among the 22 nations tracked by the OECD. By 2010, the US ranked 17th." (I think we're actually 18th now.) Link.

If you want women to have more babies, make it easier for them. It really is that simple.
 
2014-03-19 02:50:51 PM

LemSkroob: unfortunately, the demographic that so often chooses not to have kids (secure incomes, well educated, good at self-evaluation and sound decision making) would ideally make the best parents.


You should know by now that Fark is a good case study in why smart people with good incomes should opt out from reproducing.
 
2014-03-19 02:52:19 PM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: "Oh, we can't have kids."


The doctor told my wife it would be "very difficult" for her to conceive.  she doesn't want kids, but she also doesn't like being told she can't do something.  so she was upset about this.

When we try to explain this to people we get "Maybe the doctor is wrong", "you should get a second opinion", "that's what the doctor told X and how she has 4 kids", "you can always adopt", etc...

I know I'd be a shiatty parent and as someone up thread mentioned, why would I want to put a child through that just to satisfy the people who want us to have a baby they can fawn over?
 
2014-03-19 02:54:12 PM

Ned Stark: Mitch Taylor's Bro: TheExcalibur: Can't we just all agree anything with a heart beat legal birth certificate has rights and go from there?

This pro-choice pro-life rhetoric/garbage just hides the fact that no one wants to sit down and define what constitutes "life"

Okay, there you go. We cool?

About as unlikely to fly as has a heartbeat.

Also, severe failure modes. Plenty of places in the world where birth certificates aren't a thing or are only intermitently a thing. Don't one to unperson those folks.

I propose rights beginning when your thinkmeats turn on.


So...26? :-)
 
2014-03-19 02:54:45 PM
Pro lifers aren't so much "pro support life" as "pro, hey, give the kid a shot at the craps table".  Pro choicers aren't so much "pro choice" and "anti-inconvenience".  And we all mount our white horses and climb into our ivory towers and pretend tis nay thus.  And the we have a war or two and the rich people harvest all the money we brought in the door, again, and we forget about those cute little inconvenient babies for a bit.  Seriously, you don't even have to think anymore.  Just wait for any given button to be pressed, open the envelope with that issue's firm and unimpeachable response, read it, put it back, wait for new button.  I don't think I could find two people in a 10 mile radius that give a william or nilliam f*ck about anything that doesn't happen in their living room.
 
2014-03-19 02:55:15 PM

Strategeryz0r: DROxINxTHExWIND: Strategeryz0r: Clearly this is survival of the fittest at work.

-Woman tries to do something besides be in the kitchen, pumping out babies, etc, etc.
-Woman decides children are "time sucking little monsters"
-Woman has no desire to reproduce, thus ensuring her feminist genes do not get passed on.

I see no problem here.


And unfortunately, the guy who thinks that feminism is hereditary has a sack full of semen and a hairpin trigger.

/Don't pass that bad info on to your kids

Didn't take long to get a nibble on that one. hahahahaa.



I'd actually have more respect for you if you believed that feminism is hereditary and that pickle juice can stop unwanted pregnancies.

/ > trolls
 
2014-03-19 02:55:43 PM

People_are_Idiots: hm, might point this out. Without children, we won't have a healthy society of smart people. Idiocracy in action.


Please explain to me why this factors into a woman's choice to have or not have kids?  Not one person in here has said "no women should have children".

Quite honestly, your statement makes me a little angry.  Like you're implying that all women must have children for the good of the country or something.

Now, I'll hold off on my opinion of your statement until I get clarification.  But it still raises the hackles.
 
2014-03-19 02:55:55 PM

udhq: I don't see why she should be forced to undergo a risky and invasive operation to satisfy someone else's moral hangups.


Umm, not wanting someone to murder another human being as a form of "birth control" isn't exactly a moral hang up so much as just common decency.

And she's not being "forced" to do anything, she's being heckled for admitting she'd prefer to murder an innocent child for any misjudgements she might have over pursuing a more long term solution that would eliminate any and all "misjudgements". In other words, she's getting what she deserves.
 
2014-03-19 02:56:10 PM

MutantMotherMouse: reprobate1125: I think that recognizing that you're too self-absorbed to have children is a good thing.

I'm there.

Even better if your spouse agrees. My brother has always felt that he did not want to be a father and got a vasectomy after a decade of marriage


We were married in our 30s and that we spent a lot of time discussing it.  She has an IUD because of it.
 
2014-03-19 02:58:07 PM

serpent_sky: CanisNoir: Also, nobody is telling her what type of birth control she should use, just that Abortion is *not* and never has been a suitable form of Birth Control. (Because right around half the country feels it's killing another human being).

Why does that "right around half" get to say what the rest of us should do if we happen to get pregnant? Those of us who do not think a fetus is killing a human being?


I don't believe in property but if I started carrying an e z boy out of the furniture store I bet you wouldn't have a problem with it when a bunch of cops beat my ass to stop me.
 
2014-03-19 02:58:48 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: People_are_Idiots: hm, might point this out. Without children, we won't have a healthy society of smart people. Idiocracy in action.

Please explain to me why this factors into a woman's choice to have or not have kids?  Not one person in here has said "no women should have children".

Quite honestly, your statement makes me a little angry.  Like you're implying that all women must have children for the good of the country or something.

Now, I'll hold off on my opinion of your statement until I get clarification.  But it still raises the hackles.


You're nicer than I am.
 
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