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(MLive.com)   Mom worried that her kid with a bunch of social disabilities isn't popular looks for help online. 2.1 million friends and a professional hockey contract later, Colin is way cooler than any of us losers   (mlive.com) divider line 48
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2014-03-19 02:10:16 PM
Oh, internet. Just when you show me how much of humanity is garbage, you go and do this.
And restore my faith in humanity again.

/good jorb, mom
 
2014-03-19 02:21:42 PM
He's getting a lot of attention and gifts. It would be good for mom to teach son to share with the less fortunate as well.
 
2014-03-19 02:37:57 PM
Let me introduce you to my friends or, as I like to call them, this gigantic amorphous blob of data points.
 
2014-03-19 02:38:30 PM

SecretAgentWoman: He's getting a lot of attention and gifts. It would be good for mom to teach son to share with the less fortunate as well.


And maybe not to be such a little shiat (if that's why he "has no friends" to begin with).
 
2014-03-19 02:43:49 PM
Welcome to Douche 101.

Class is in session.

MelGoesOnTour: SecretAgentWoman: He's getting a lot of attention and gifts. It would be good for mom to teach son to share with the less fortunate as well.

And maybe not to be such a little shiat (if that's why he "has no friends" to begin with).

 
2014-03-19 02:54:52 PM
I have a kid like this.  Difficulty picking up social cues, but trying like crazy.  He's like a computer always searching for a wifi connection.  Just like Colin, he has 3 game systems, because that's a world that makes sense:  there are no nuances, very specific rules, and absolute consistancy.

Consequently, they tend to really appreciate numbers.  I am so glad he has that 2.1 million figure to focus on.  And so happy for the mom!
 
2014-03-19 02:57:29 PM

AFKobel: Welcome to Douche 101.

Class is in session.

MelGoesOnTour: SecretAgentWoman: He's getting a lot of attention and gifts. It would be good for mom to teach son to share with the less fortunate as well.

And maybe not to be such a little shiat (if that's why he "has no friends" to begin with).


I know what you're getting at but I have always wondered why these ailments (especially Aspergers) seem to be becoming more and more prominent yet when I was a kid you never heard of such things. There was a time when a maladjusted kid kind of got better over time (before the days of helicoptering and overly-sensitive clueless parents). Environmental changes? Younger parents of today having no idea how to raise/nurture kids?

/not trolling
 
2014-03-19 02:59:26 PM

AFKobel: Welcome to Douche 101.

Class is in session.

MelGoesOnTour: SecretAgentWoman: He's getting a lot of attention and gifts. It would be good for mom to teach son to share with the less fortunate as well.

And maybe not to be such a little shiat (if that's why he "has no friends" to begin with).


Please note that I said "if" in my statement. And part of that "if" might be his parents (assuming he has two) could be a part of it.
 
2014-03-19 02:59:28 PM

AndTheyAllLived: I am so glad he has that 2.1 million figure to focus on


It's actually 2,126,747.
 
2014-03-19 03:05:42 PM

MelGoesOnTour: AFKobel: Welcome to Douche 101.

Class is in session.

MelGoesOnTour: SecretAgentWoman: He's getting a lot of attention and gifts. It would be good for mom to teach son to share with the less fortunate as well.

And maybe not to be such a little shiat (if that's why he "has no friends" to begin with).

I know what you're getting at but I have always wondered why these ailments (especially Aspergers) seem to be becoming more and more prominent yet when I was a kid you never heard of such things. There was a time when a maladjusted kid kind of got better over time (before the days of helicoptering and overly-sensitive clueless parents). Environmental changes? Younger parents of today having no idea how to raise/nurture kids?

/not trolling


I understand that.  I feel the same way about some things, like fibromyalgia.  But I'm not sure these autistic spectrum things have necessarily increased in number, I think maybe the field got more sophisticated.  Isolate specific symptoms and label them. In the past, it was just "oh, that's the weird kid."
 
2014-03-19 03:07:55 PM
How many of you forwarded this article to your mothers?  I know that walk up the stairs leaves you winded.
 
2014-03-19 03:13:52 PM
"...a bunch of social disabilities", or as we used to say, "...character flaws"

Actually, putting him on an actual hockey team (no check at first, then ramp up the aggression) might be just the trick to renormalize those pesky neurotransmitters.
 
2014-03-19 03:16:23 PM

TheMysticS: Oh, internet. Just when you show me how much of humanity is garbage, you go and do this.
And restore my faith in humanity again.

/good jorb, mom


Eh, just wait until the Internet turns on him and bullies him into suicide.
 
2014-03-19 03:17:48 PM

AndTheyAllLived: I'm not sure these autistic spectrum things have necessarily increased in number, I think maybe the field got more sophisticated.  Isolate specific symptoms and label them. In the past, it was just "oh, that's the weird kid."


You're correct. A British study several years ago found no difference in autism rates across ages (from 8 to 80) when applying the same diagnostic criteria.
 
2014-03-19 03:23:30 PM
Yeah, but I can dream.
 
2014-03-19 03:24:45 PM

JohnnyCanuck: AndTheyAllLived: I am so glad he has that 2.1 million figure to focus on

It's actually 2,126,747.


I see what you did there, Captain Specific!
 
2014-03-19 03:24:46 PM
Anybody else think he was the kid from Moonrise Kingdom?

graphics8.nytimes.com
 
2014-03-19 03:27:03 PM

MelGoesOnTour: I know what you're getting at but I have always wondered why these ailments (especially Aspergers) seem to be becoming more and more prominent yet when I was a kid you never heard of such things. There was a time when a maladjusted kid kind of got better over time (before the days of helicoptering and overly-sensitive clueless parents). Environmental changes? Younger parents of today having no idea how to raise/nurture kids?

/not trolling


My slightly-educated guess (I have a barely-verbal autistic 7 year old daughter) is a genetic susceptibility to something environmental. The genetics may be getting more concentrated because of "nerd love". The increase in prevalence is at least mostly due to diagnostic criteria (as seen when you apply the same criteria to old people).

The root cause of autism is still a mystery, and will probably remain so until we understand a lot more about the brain.
 
2014-03-19 03:28:47 PM
Hmm. I'm reminded of the "arguing online being like the Special Olympics" joke. I don't have 2.1 million people clicking a button on facebook to pretend they're doing a good deed or a pity contract with a hockey team; but then again I have a functioning brain and the ability to live a normal life.  If I had to pick between the two options, I'm still going to go with what I have. Not that it's not nice for this kid, but saying that this somehow makes his life better than a normal person's is really a stretch. I bet he would honestly prefer to be normal than have 2.1 million likes on facebook.
 
2014-03-19 03:28:49 PM

Barnstormer: Anybody else think he was the kid from Moonrise Kingdom?

[graphics8.nytimes.com image 292x209]


I love you but you don't know what you're talking about .
 
2014-03-19 03:31:15 PM
Sorry, subby, buy you forgot to put scare quotes around the word "friends".
 
2014-03-19 03:33:59 PM

Gaseous Anomaly: TheMysticS: Oh, internet. Just when you show me how much of humanity is garbage, you go and do this.
And restore my faith in humanity again.

/good jorb, mom

Eh, just wait until the Internet turns on him and bullies him into suicide.


With luck, instead he'll snap and go on a shooting rampage.
 
2014-03-19 03:38:58 PM
Hopefully this positive attention will let him grow up happy and well adjusted sufficiently grounded in reality that when he's a teenager he doesn't put four bullets into his Mom while she's sleeping, then head down the block to slaughter the local 1st graders.
 
2014-03-19 03:40:15 PM
The kid should start smoking. That is what all the cool kids do.
 
2014-03-19 03:40:17 PM

Odd Bird: How many of you forwarded this article to your mothers?  I know that walk up the stairs leaves you winded.


Doesn't bother me, we got an AmeriGlide installed last week.
 
2014-03-19 03:41:56 PM
MelGoesOnTour:
I know what you're getting at but I have always wondered why these ailments (especially Aspergers) seem to be becoming more and more prominent yet when I was a kid you never heard of such things. There was a time when a maladjusted kid kind of got better over time (before the days of helicoptering and overly-sensitive clueless parents). Environmental changes? Younger parents of today having no idea how to raise/nurture kids?

I've always kind of suspected it's improved health, rising population, and reporting bias. I doubt it's any more common than decades ago but people with other disabilities are living longer where years ago they might have died of complications younger. The percentage might not be increasing but with the rising population there are simply more people with disabilities. And third it's a lot more acceptable to discuss disabilities than decades ago.
 
2014-03-19 03:46:03 PM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: MelGoesOnTour:
I know what you're getting at but I have always wondered why these ailments (especially Aspergers) seem to be becoming more and more prominent yet when I was a kid you never heard of such things. There was a time when a maladjusted kid kind of got better over time (before the days of helicoptering and overly-sensitive clueless parents). Environmental changes? Younger parents of today having no idea how to raise/nurture kids?

I've always kind of suspected it's improved health, rising population, and reporting bias. I doubt it's any more common than decades ago but people with other disabilities are living longer where years ago they might have died of complications younger. The percentage might not be increasing but with the rising population there are simply more people with disabilities. And third it's a lot more acceptable to discuss disabilities than decades ago.


This. Before it was "that weird guy", now it is "that Autistic/social disability guy".
 
2014-03-19 03:47:04 PM
I have the problem with picking up verbal and non-verbal clues, social retardation thing. As a kid, and even now, I have 2 or 3 very close friends but not many acquaintances. It was hell as a child. As you grow up you learn to deal with it and manage it to a certain extent, but it really makes office politics difficult. Good for this mom and her boy. It does get better with time.
 
2014-03-19 03:49:02 PM

happydude45: I have the problem with picking up verbal and non-verbal clues, social retardation thing. As a kid, and even now, I have 2 or 3 very close friends but not many acquaintances. It was hell as a child. As you grow up you learn to deal with it and manage it to a certain extent, but it really makes office politics difficult. Good for this mom and her boy. It does get better with time.


You know how I know you turned out okay?  You live in Cowboys country but have a picture of John Riggins in your profile.  HTTR!
 
2014-03-19 04:02:36 PM

machoprogrammer: This. Before it was "that weird guy", now it is "that Autistic/social disability guy".


There's also a matter of public awareness.  30 years ago, I was just a "bookish" kid who needed speech therapy and a lot of legos.  My family and friends knew it, but that was it.  Today, it's something that you can broadcast to millions of people - a single data point impacts far more observers, so chances are that everyone encounters at least one and possibly many instances.  It's similar to the awareness bubble around any "invisible" minority: linear increases in visibility cause exponential increases in exposure.
 
2014-03-19 04:03:58 PM

Warthog: happydude45: I have the problem with picking up verbal and non-verbal clues, social retardation thing. As a kid, and even now, I have 2 or 3 very close friends but not many acquaintances. It was hell as a child. As you grow up you learn to deal with it and manage it to a certain extent, but it really makes office politics difficult. Good for this mom and her boy. It does get better with time.

You know how I know you turned out okay?  You live in Cowboys country but have a picture of John Riggins in your profile.  HTTR!


Hah! Thanks. When I first got interested in football I was about 10 years old, and the Redskins had all kinds of Texans on their team - Charley Taylor, Diron Talbert, Jack Pardee, etc. The Cowboys had Lee Roy Jordan, and that was about it. Plus, I loved the way George Allen got under everybody's skin. Redskins fan for life.

That's the Riggins run that broke their first super bowl win open - the long 3rd & 1 touchdown run where Dolphins were hanging on for dear life and were strewn down the field as he went. My favorite football moment of all time.
 
2014-03-19 04:06:32 PM
I get it: I was the weird kid and now I am the weird adult so I think what his Mom did was amazing.

The perception of reality is way more impactful that reality itself and if this makes him happy for awhile and gives him some confidence then it is a good thing.

Also, most people with Autism (high functioning anyway) would not want to be "normal" if given the option.  Probably the kids would but all kids want to be what they are not.
 
2014-03-19 04:06:33 PM

MelGoesOnTour: AFKobel: Welcome to Douche 101.

Class is in session.

MelGoesOnTour: SecretAgentWoman: He's getting a lot of attention and gifts. It would be good for mom to teach son to share with the less fortunate as well.

And maybe not to be such a little shiat (if that's why he "has no friends" to begin with).

I know what you're getting at but I have always wondered why these ailments (especially Aspergers) seem to be becoming more and more prominent yet when I was a kid you never heard of such things. There was a time when a maladjusted kid kind of got better over time (before the days of helicoptering and overly-sensitive clueless parents). Environmental changes? Younger parents of today having no idea how to raise/nurture kids?

/not trolling


Back in the day we were just called 'rude,' 'difficult,' 'biatchy,' 'defiant,' or 'doing it on purpose for attention,' which I'll admit are all easier to spell. We kind of got better over time because even a mule will bend to your will if you beat it long enough.
 
2014-03-19 04:44:06 PM
My son has similar diagnosis. The difference is I don't feel the need to put my son's life on display on Facebook. Great he got a bunch of stuff and FB friends and the hockey deal. However I choose to respect the privacy of my son and focus on getting him the treatment and therapy he needs.
 
2014-03-19 04:45:44 PM

machoprogrammer: To The Escape Zeppelin!: MelGoesOnTour:
I know what you're getting at but I have always wondered why these ailments (especially Aspergers) seem to be becoming more and more prominent yet when I was a kid you never heard of such things. There was a time when a maladjusted kid kind of got better over time (before the days of helicoptering and overly-sensitive clueless parents). Environmental changes? Younger parents of today having no idea how to raise/nurture kids?

I've always kind of suspected it's improved health, rising population, and reporting bias. I doubt it's any more common than decades ago but people with other disabilities are living longer where years ago they might have died of complications younger. The percentage might not be increasing but with the rising population there are simply more people with disabilities. And third it's a lot more acceptable to discuss disabilities than decades ago.

This. Before it was "that weird guy", now it is "that Autistic/social disability guy".


Also, presumably they were the weirdos fragged or sent to die in infantry charges back when we were having mass casualty wars
 
2014-03-19 04:58:28 PM
This kid still has no friends. He had a bunch of strangers feel sorry for him and they clicked a button....those are not actually friends. My guess is that all of this just made him more of a pariah.
Eh, I'm sure when he gets to junior high all this will be forgotten and he will be very popular.Or not.
 
2014-03-19 05:28:41 PM

Barnstormer: "...a bunch of social disabilities", or as we used to say, "...character flaws"

Actually, putting him on an actual hockey team (no check at first, then ramp up the aggression) might be just the trick to renormalize those pesky neurotransmitters.


As a MI resident with an 11 year-old autistic boy who plays hockey, I heartily concur. He was in a tourney this past weekend at K-Wings Stadium, actually.

I like the organization even more now, good for them.
 
2014-03-19 05:34:44 PM
This is what Social Media is for

Sad stories to make stupid things for profit making entities to make you think they 'care' ..
 
2014-03-19 05:39:53 PM

MelGoesOnTour: AFKobel: Welcome to Douche 101.

Class is in session.

MelGoesOnTour: SecretAgentWoman: He's getting a lot of attention and gifts. It would be good for mom to teach son to share with the less fortunate as well.

And maybe not to be such a little shiat (if that's why he "has no friends" to begin with).

I know what you're getting at but I have always wondered why these ailments (especially Aspergers) seem to be becoming more and more prominent yet when I was a kid you never heard of such things. There was a time when a maladjusted kid kind of got better over time (before the days of helicoptering and overly-sensitive clueless parents). Environmental changes? Younger parents of today having no idea how to raise/nurture kids?

/not trolling


Kids with Asperger's aren't maladjusted.   They don't grow out of it .They have a handicap that they learn coping mechanisms for.
 We did the same "you're not trying/  you'll grow out of it" thing with kids with learning disabilities years ago. Thankfully we've stopped doing that.
 
2014-03-19 06:01:27 PM
Kids with Asperger's aren't maladjusted.   They don't grow out of it .They have a handicap that they learn coping mechanisms for.
 We did the same "you're not trying/  you'll grow out of it" thing with kids with learning disabilities years ago. Thankfully we've stopped doing that.


Yup.  This. Telling some of these kids to "just act normal" is like telling a kid with no legs to quit being troublesome and start walking.

/My kid's case is very, very mild.
//Can't imagine these moms who have to advocate every. Damned. Day.
 
2014-03-19 06:35:43 PM
It's nice to get a happy ending now and then.
 
2014-03-19 06:49:37 PM

TheMysticS: Oh, internet. Just when you show me how much of humanity is garbage, you go and do this.
And restore my faith in humanity again.

/good jorb, mom


Just try and contact the child in 2 months and ask how many of the "friends" actually talked to him in the last month. They'll probably stop talking to him once the novelty/feel good wears out.
 
2014-03-19 07:10:12 PM

precious_crotchflake: MelGoesOnTour: AFKobel: Welcome to Douche 101.

Class is in session.

MelGoesOnTour: SecretAgentWoman: He's getting a lot of attention and gifts. It would be good for mom to teach son to share with the less fortunate as well.

And maybe not to be such a little shiat (if that's why he "has no friends" to begin with).

I know what you're getting at but I have always wondered why these ailments (especially Aspergers) seem to be becoming more and more prominent yet when I was a kid you never heard of such things. There was a time when a maladjusted kid kind of got better over time (before the days of helicoptering and overly-sensitive clueless parents). Environmental changes? Younger parents of today having no idea how to raise/nurture kids?

/not trolling

Kids with Asperger's aren't maladjusted.   They don't grow out of it .They have a handicap that they learn coping mechanisms for.
 We did the same "you're not trying/  you'll grow out of it" thing with kids with learning disabilities years ago. Thankfully we've stopped doing that.


I know what you're saying. I know it firsthand, especially about the coping mechanisms employed. Disclaimer: *I* was one of those "maladjusted kids"...or so I figured out, eventually, in hindsight. Grew up during the 70's/80's, parents divorced and rather than getting me "help" apparently decided that insulting me repeatedly would help. Oh, and humiliating me in front of practically everyone (or so it seemed). I have no idea how I survived but, for me, music was the charm---bass clarinet (Classical and, yes, I still play but these days only at home and for my wife or friends). Music is structured, of course. I joined the Army in 11th grade and entered immediately after high school. Air Traffic Controller (93H, tower operator).  Anyways, the good news is that I think I pretty much "broke through the veil" a looong time ago....but there are always residuals---and things I think are actually GOOD qualities I've developed; things which, in my mind, MOST people avoid. One example is that to this day I will ask DIRECT questions without sugarcoating or put into some sort of "sensitive" phrasing (i.e., I will acknowledge your fart if strong enough to elicit a reaction in me; but it'll be funny and not nasty ("Am I smelling roses?"). In other words, I tend to not ignore certain things that are obvious to me...so I'll start asking questions.  Aside---interesting to note that my favorite film of all time is "My Dinner with Andre".  Anyhow, who knows if I was an aspy or not. But by the time I was 18 years old, I was one of the youngest ATC'er's in the US Army...and got there with flying colors (just sayin'). Little did I know that it was the structure, attention to details, etc., that most likely got my synapses to fire in a better way over time.

/ not a CSB---just life

// and pardon any typos, etc...  ;)
 
2014-03-19 08:03:47 PM

DerAppie: TheMysticS: Oh, internet. Just when you show me how much of humanity is garbage, you go and do this.
And restore my faith in humanity again.

/good jorb, mom

Just try and contact the child in 2 months and ask how many of the "friends" actually talked to him in the last month. They'll probably stop talking to him once the novelty/feel good wears out.


If he has 2 million 'friends', chances are someone will check back.
The gesture was enough.
But some of those folks sent letters, and gifts.

Lighten up, Frances.
 
2014-03-19 09:46:06 PM
"Hocky! Why didn't I think of that sooner?"

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-20 12:19:03 AM
Hate to be Debbie Downer, but, really, is this healthy?  Sure it sounds great now, but it's all an illusion.  In a few months, he'll go back to being the weird kid with no friends, but with the added stigma of needing his mama to get him some false illusion of popularity.  And what happens next year?  Or the next mom that comes along and decides to parade out her dysfunctional kid? I have a bad feeling this could turn ugly in the long run.
 
2014-03-20 08:54:34 AM

SCUBA_Archer: Hate to be Debbie Downer, but, really, is this healthy?  Sure it sounds great now, but it's all an illusion.  In a few months, he'll go back to being the weird kid with no friends, but with the added stigma of needing his mama to get him some false illusion of popularity.  And what happens next year?  Or the next mom that comes along and decides to parade out her dysfunctional kid? I have a bad feeling this could turn ugly in the long run.


I see what you're saying but remember the kid is 11 not 15. Years from now all he's going to remember is that his 11th birthday party was awesome.
 
2014-03-20 05:14:27 PM
What does it say that my main takeaway from that article was a craving for Buffalo wings?
 
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