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(Talking Points Memo)   LA Governor Bobby Jindal: "I know more about how Obamacare harms people with disabilities than the American Association of People with Disabilities"   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 66
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2014-03-19 01:10:25 PM  
Remember when this guy was the "don't be the stupid party" guy?
 
2014-03-19 01:20:55 PM  

DamnYankees: Remember when this guy was the "don't be the stupid party" guy?


Not really. He's pretty much only parroted off Weapons Grade Stoopid but with that Mr. Rogers tone that folks adopt when they speak to an electorate that they respect about as much as most of us respect a child throwing a tantrum in the middle of the supermarket...
 
2014-03-19 01:57:05 PM  
About 242,000 Louisianans   left without health coverage under Obamacare because the state didn't expand Medicaid.

Because Jesus?
 
2014-03-19 02:04:10 PM  
So, let me see if I get Jindal's argument straight:

If we expand Medicaid to poor (but not yet poor enough) people, and also raise expenditures to cover those people, the number of people who are covered by Medicaid will go up.

If the number of people who have Medicaid go up, it might possibly mean that someone who is already on Medicaid might have to wait for a service, because the influx of people seeking healthcare might strain the system.

This equals discriminating against disabled people, therefore we shouldn't let those people who want to seek healthcare, but currently do not have access, get access to Medicaid.

That's... I don't know what that is, but it's not a good argument.
 
2014-03-19 02:22:38 PM  
"Piyush"..the sound a turd makes when it hits the punchbowl.
 
2014-03-19 02:22:41 PM  
Question.

Isn't there some sort of fair use protection for MoveOn regarding the billboard?

www.rawstory.com
 
2014-03-19 02:23:12 PM  
Well obviously giving disabled people healthcare coverage will disincintivize them to not be disabled anymore. How can you expect someone with multiple sclerosis to heal themselves if they're getting mollycoddled by the lefties.
 
2014-03-19 02:23:38 PM  
Kenneth really is turning up the stupid as of late, isn't he?

I guess that was expected as soon as he bloviated about not being the "Stupid" party... It's the Republican way, after all.
 
2014-03-19 02:24:06 PM  
Wasn't he the one who said his party needed to stop being the 'stupid' party?  Sounds like he should take his own advice.
 
2014-03-19 02:26:44 PM  
So now I'm being all discriminated and stuff cause I'm not unabled? That sux. Imona take a power drill to my head and then we'll see. Right?
 
2014-03-19 02:27:48 PM  
Well, considering Bobby Jindal is mentally disabled he should know.
 
2014-03-19 02:28:39 PM  

Schmerd1948: So now I'm being all discriminated and stuff cause I'm not unabled? That sux. Imona take a power drill to my head and then we'll see. Right?


"Here I am walking around and going to bathroom on my own like a sucker!!"
 
2014-03-19 02:29:53 PM  

meat0918: Question.

Isn't there some sort of fair use protection for MoveOn regarding the billboard?

[www.rawstory.com image 615x345]


doesn't matter. a protracted lawsuit would involve litigating the truths of the statement made on the sign, which would be in the press DAILY, and the GOP doesn't want that.
 
2014-03-19 02:31:42 PM  
So, back to being the party of stupid, huh?
 
2014-03-19 02:32:50 PM  
When reading the headline, my first thought was "Los Angeles has a governor?!

Why yes, I'm stupid.
 
2014-03-19 02:32:52 PM  

nmrsnr: So, let me see if I get Jindal's argument straight:

If we expand Medicaid to poor (but not yet poor enough) people, and also raise expenditures to cover those people, the number of people who are covered by Medicaid will go up.

If the number of people who have Medicaid go up, it might possibly mean that someone who is already on Medicaid might have to wait for a service, because the influx of people seeking healthcare might strain the system.

This equals discriminating against disabled people, therefore we shouldn't let those people who want to seek healthcare, but currently do not have access, get access to Medicaid.

That's... I don't know what that is, but it's not a good argument.


It's a good argument for not listening to Bobby Jindal.
 
2014-03-19 02:33:37 PM  

nmrsnr: So, let me see if I get Jindal's argument straight:

If we expand Medicaid to poor (but not yet poor enough) people, and also raise expenditures to cover those people, the number of people who are covered by Medicaid will go up.

If the number of people who have Medicaid go up, it might possibly mean that someone who is already on Medicaid might have to wait for a service, because the influx of people seeking healthcare might strain the system.

This equals discriminating against disabled people, therefore we shouldn't let those people who want to seek healthcare, but currently do not have access, get access to Medicaid.

That's... I don't know what that is, but it's not a good argument.


It helps if you read it really fast like one of those DirecTV commercials.
 
2014-03-19 02:33:58 PM  

A Cave Geek: Wasn't he the one who said his party needed to stop being the 'stupid' party?  Sounds like he should take his own advice.


What do you expect from someone that claims to have participated in an exorcism of his girlfriend, a woman that started acting "strange" while undergoing cancer treatment, albeit he holds doubts as to what he witnessed?
 
2014-03-19 02:35:42 PM  
Somehow I read the headline in Donnie Baker's voice: "I prolly know more about how Obamacare hurts cripples than anybody I know."

/that's unchristian
 
2014-03-19 02:39:16 PM  

nmrsnr: So, let me see if I get Jindal's argument straight:

If we expand Medicaid to poor (but not yet poor enough) people, and also raise expenditures to cover those people, the number of people who are covered by Medicaid will go up.

If the number of people who have Medicaid go up, it might possibly mean that someone who is already on Medicaid might have to wait for a service, because the influx of people seeking healthcare might strain the system.

This equals discriminating against disabled people, therefore we shouldn't let those people who want to seek healthcare, but currently do not have access, get access to Medicaid.

That's... I don't know what that is, but it's not a good argument.


I think it's a non sequitor...  "The conclusion does not follow from the premise."
 
2014-03-19 02:40:21 PM  

Jaymark108: nmrsnr: So, let me see if I get Jindal's argument straight:

If we expand Medicaid to poor (but not yet poor enough) people, and also raise expenditures to cover those people, the number of people who are covered by Medicaid will go up.

If the number of people who have Medicaid go up, it might possibly mean that someone who is already on Medicaid might have to wait for a service, because the influx of people seeking healthcare might strain the system.

This equals discriminating against disabled people, therefore we shouldn't let those people who want to seek healthcare, but currently do not have access, get access to Medicaid.

That's... I don't know what that is, but it's not a good argument.

I think it's a non sequitor...  "The conclusion does not follow from the premise."


Sorry.  Non sequitur.
 
2014-03-19 02:42:51 PM  
Hey, the affordable care act hurts people with disabilities a lot.

Like my mother, who hasn't walked without crutches or a leg brace since she was 2 thanks to polio.

Before the ACA, she didn't have to spend a single cent - I mean, because of the polio and the coeliac disease and so on, most insurance companies wouldn't even let her buy insurance, and since she ran her own business and so couldn't get a group plan, the ones that would wanted to charge her more than her mortgage.

But now the ACA has passed, after the subsidy she's still going to have to spend literally hundreds of dollars a year on health insurance.  She might even have to spend more money on co-pays and whatnot going to the doctor regularly for the first time in a decade and getting something done about her osteoporosis.  The government burden on her is just sickening.
 
2014-03-19 02:46:54 PM  

timswar: Well obviously giving disabled people healthcare coverage will disincintivize them to not be disabled anymore. How can you expect someone with multiple sclerosis to heal themselves if they're getting mollycoddled by the lefties.


Been saying this for years.

If I get health insurance, what's my incentive to stay healthy?

Stupid libtards don't understand economics.
 
2014-03-19 02:47:26 PM  
What the people of Louisiana should be worried about is Jindal's administration spending taxpayer money to sue an organization that legally paid for ad space on a billboard. I mean, seriously, why would they do that?

Well, I mean, they should find that worrisome along with their poorest citizens not having access to affordable healthcare.
 
2014-03-19 02:50:25 PM  
images.wikia.com

It's getting to the point where this should be SOP* when dealing with Republicans.

/*exceptions handled on a case-by-case basis
 
2014-03-19 02:51:29 PM  

Bareefer Obonghit: Well, considering Bobby Jindal is mentally disabled he should know.


Came here too say that...

Instead, I'm joining the ranks of the temporally disabled.
 
2014-03-19 02:51:40 PM  

nmrsnr: So, let me see if I get Jindal's argument straight:

If we expand Medicaid to poor (but not yet poor enough) people, and also raise expenditures to cover those people, the number of people who are covered by Medicaid will go up.

If the number of people who have Medicaid go up, it might possibly mean that someone who is already on Medicaid might have to wait for a service, because the influx of people seeking healthcare might strain the system.

This equals discriminating against disabled people, therefore we shouldn't let those people who want to seek healthcare, but currently do not have access, get access to Medicaid.

That's... I don't know what that is, but it's not a good argument.


It's an argument in favor of rationing because of rationing.
 
2014-03-19 02:51:41 PM  

keylock71: Kenneth really is turning up the stupid as of late, isn't he?

I guess that was expected as soon as he bloviated about not being the "Stupid" party... It's the Republican way, after all.


He graduated from Brown and was a Rhodes Scholar.  He's pulling a George Wallace, except substitute "out-derped" for, uh, that other thing.
 
2014-03-19 02:52:00 PM  
Obamacare is bad for the disabled.

Did you know that if Stephen Hawking had Socialist healthcare like they have in the UK or Canada, he would be dead by now?
 
2014-03-19 02:55:34 PM  

DamnYankees: Remember when this guy was the "don't be the stupid party" guy?


i remember when mike foster hired him to be the number cruncher for the state on healthcare. he once was touted as a healthcare guru.

"In 1993 U.S. Representative Jim McCrery (whom Jindal had worked for as a summer intern) introduced him to Governor Murphy Foster.[8] In 1996 Foster appointed Jindal as Secretary of the Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals, an agency that represented about 40 percent of the state budget and employed over 12,000 people. Foster called Jindal a genius who has a lot of knowledge of medicine.[9] Jindal was 24 at the time.[10] During his tenure, Louisiana's Medicaid program went from bankruptcy with a $400 million deficit into three years of surpluses totaling $220 million.[11] Jindal was criticized during the 2007 campaign by the Louisiana AFL-CIO for closing some local clinics to reach that surplus.[12] Under Jindal's term, Louisiana nationally rose to third place in child healthcare screenings, with child immunizations rising, and introduced new and expanded services for the elderly and the disabled.[13] In 1998, Jindal was appointed executive director of the National Bipartisan Commission on the Future of Medicare, a 17-member panel charged with devising plans to reform Medicare."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Jindal

he started running right as he went from being a u.s. representative to governor. then some fool told him if only he were a tea tard he could be president and lo and behold we have this shiat stain now.

and yes i live in LA, i live in his former district and i'm constantly wondering why. well if you must know i like the this area except for it's politics and TX and MS are worse than LA to live in.
 
2014-03-19 02:57:00 PM  

DemonEater: Hey, the affordable care act hurts people with disabilities a lot.

Like my mother, who hasn't walked without crutches or a leg brace since she was 2 thanks to polio.

Before the ACA, she didn't have to spend a single cent - I mean, because of the polio and the coeliac disease and so on, most insurance companies wouldn't even let her buy insurance, and since she ran her own business and so couldn't get a group plan, the ones that would wanted to charge her more than her mortgage.

But now the ACA has passed, after the subsidy she's still going to have to spend literally hundreds of dollars a year on health insurance.  She might even have to spend more money on co-pays and whatnot going to the doctor regularly for the first time in a decade and getting something done about her osteoporosis.  The government burden on her is just sickening.


That sounds awful, hopefully we can repeal this monster for you and get your mother back into the lack of care and expense she was at previously.  God be with you child, and the GOP on their 53rd attempt.  53rd times the charm.
 
2014-03-19 02:58:40 PM  
I am loving this.  Loving it.  Keep farking that chicken, GOP.  See you on the losing side in 2016.
 
2014-03-19 03:01:15 PM  
Because if there's one thing Bobby Jindal knows, it's health care! Just ask him about the time he helped perform an exorcism on his college friend when she got cancer.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2009/02/24/bobby-jindals-secre t- past.html
 
2014-03-19 03:01:53 PM  
Just like he knew more about volcanoes than volcanologists and knew more about marine civil engineering than marine civil engineers?

Sorry Bobby, your track record of knowing more than experts in their field is zero percent.
 
2014-03-19 03:04:17 PM  
OK, I sort-of understand being against the ACA in general, but rarely do I ever hear opponents being against anything even remotely like the ACA. Instead they're against this mythical thing that only exists in the echo chamber. If they would indicate what parts they don't like, fine. But making up shiat like Obamacare prevents handicapped people from getting care and instead gives single adults preferential treatment? WTF? Where did that come from?

All the ACA really does is force everyone to buy health insurance, offers subsidies to help pay for it in low-income situations, installs some price controls, and forces insurance companies to accept everyone. The rest is just the nuts and bolts of making it all work.

The government hasn't taken over anything. They aren't determining who gets care and who doesn't. If you have insurance, which should now be able to get somewhat affordably and without restrictions, then you can visit a doctor, same as ever. The government isn't telling the doctors who they can and can't see or what order people get seen. The government is merely the clearing house for private insurance plans, which pretty much operate as they have for the past 50 years except now they have to give insurance to sick people, too.

Jeez. Aren't you guys tired of looking this stupid?
 
2014-03-19 03:05:29 PM  

max_pooper: Just like he knew more about volcanoes than volcanologists and knew more about marine civil engineering than marine civil engineers?

Sorry Bobby, your track record of knowing more than experts in their field is zero percent.


wonkroom.thinkprogress.org

Come on.  This guy totally knows what he's talking about.
 
2014-03-19 03:10:43 PM  

Arkanaut: He graduated from Brown...



charmcitywire.com

"Brown!?! They got one of them in Providence, don't they?"


Seriously, though, I would argue graduating from Brown is hardly a mark of intelligence. If he's just playing a dummy, that's even worse than actually being one, in my opinion.
 
2014-03-19 03:12:30 PM  

DemonEater: Hey, the affordable care act hurts people with disabilities a lot.

Like my mother, who hasn't walked without crutches or a leg brace since she was 2 thanks to polio.

Before the ACA, she didn't have to spend a single cent - I mean, because of the polio and the coeliac disease and so on, most insurance companies wouldn't even let her buy insurance, and since she ran her own business and so couldn't get a group plan, the ones that would wanted to charge her more than her mortgage.

But now the ACA has passed, after the subsidy she's still going to have to spend literally hundreds of dollars a year on health insurance.  She might even have to spend more money on co-pays and whatnot going to the doctor regularly for the first time in a decade and getting something done about her osteoporosis.  The government burden on her is just sickening.


No sympathy here. Before ACA, I was denied health insurance because I had a "pre-existing" condition. Now I can't be denied coverage.


//How is someone who had polio as a child not listed as permanently disabled and getting SSDI?
 
2014-03-19 03:13:25 PM  

allylloyd: DemonEater: Hey, the affordable care act hurts people with disabilities a lot.

Like my mother, who hasn't walked without crutches or a leg brace since she was 2 thanks to polio.

Before the ACA, she didn't have to spend a single cent - I mean, because of the polio and the coeliac disease and so on, most insurance companies wouldn't even let her buy insurance, and since she ran her own business and so couldn't get a group plan, the ones that would wanted to charge her more than her mortgage.

But now the ACA has passed, after the subsidy she's still going to have to spend literally hundreds of dollars a year on health insurance.  She might even have to spend more money on co-pays and whatnot going to the doctor regularly for the first time in a decade and getting something done about her osteoporosis.  The government burden on her is just sickening.

No sympathy here. Before ACA, I was denied health insurance because I had a "pre-existing" condition. Now I can't be denied coverage.


//How is someone who had polio as a child not listed as permanently disabled and getting SSDI?


Forgot something, not getting SSI?
 
2014-03-19 03:16:33 PM  

allylloyd: DemonEater: Hey, the affordable care act hurts people with disabilities a lot.

Like my mother, who hasn't walked without crutches or a leg brace since she was 2 thanks to polio.

Before the ACA, she didn't have to spend a single cent - I mean, because of the polio and the coeliac disease and so on, most insurance companies wouldn't even let her buy insurance, and since she ran her own business and so couldn't get a group plan, the ones that would wanted to charge her more than her mortgage.

But now the ACA has passed, after the subsidy she's still going to have to spend literally hundreds of dollars a year on health insurance.  She might even have to spend more money on co-pays and whatnot going to the doctor regularly for the first time in a decade and getting something done about her osteoporosis.  The government burden on her is just sickening.

No sympathy here. Before ACA, I was denied health insurance because I had a "pre-existing" condition. Now I can't be denied coverage.


//How is someone who had polio as a child not listed as permanently disabled and getting SSDI?


My mom had polio as a kid (along with every other child in her family that was alive at the time). Though she has always struggled with common tasks like driving and cooking, she was able to hold down a 9-5 white-collar job.
 
2014-03-19 03:20:41 PM  
I am sure that removing the insurance company's right to discriminate against the disabled through the use pre-existing conditions has a bigger impact on the insurance company.
 
2014-03-19 03:21:23 PM  
A Republican lying about the ACA?

water wet
sky blue
etc.
 
2014-03-19 03:21:26 PM  

Bareefer Obonghit: Well, considering Bobby Jindal is mentally disabled he should know.


um, no ...
 
2014-03-19 03:32:12 PM  

Serious Black: allylloyd: DemonEater: Hey, the affordable care act hurts people with disabilities a lot.

Like my mother, who hasn't walked without crutches or a leg brace since she was 2 thanks to polio.

Before the ACA, she didn't have to spend a single cent - I mean, because of the polio and the coeliac disease and so on, most insurance companies wouldn't even let her buy insurance, and since she ran her own business and so couldn't get a group plan, the ones that would wanted to charge her more than her mortgage.

But now the ACA has passed, after the subsidy she's still going to have to spend literally hundreds of dollars a year on health insurance.  She might even have to spend more money on co-pays and whatnot going to the doctor regularly for the first time in a decade and getting something done about her osteoporosis.  The government burden on her is just sickening.

No sympathy here. Before ACA, I was denied health insurance because I had a "pre-existing" condition. Now I can't be denied coverage.


//How is someone who had polio as a child not listed as permanently disabled and getting SSDI?

My mom had polio as a kid (along with every other child in her family that was alive at the time). Though she has always struggled with common tasks like driving and cooking, she was able to hold down a 9-5 white-collar job.


My Dad was a polio survivor as well. He actually made a living as a mechanic most of his life, despite the lack of use of one arm. He's now on SS Disabilitym but he's stuck with Medicare because my parents are so distrustful of Obamacare. I've done my best to correct her misinformation, but she's so misinformed due to the right-wing media that she thinks I'm crazy.

Dad's doing...okay with Medicare (although he's not 65, he was awarded Medicare after an accident at work took away most of the remaining use of his "good" arm.), but the Part D crap is ridiculous - they change him to a company with a whole set of different rules about once a year, and Mom has to go back and beg for yet another exemption letter from his doctors about his medication which violates the new company's policies, every single time.

I'd love to see him on private insurance, or for Tennessee to at least accept the Medicaid expansion so he can get services like the shuttle bus to his doctors in Nashville that were cut out under the last governor. (The shuttle bus was a Medicaid program, but Medicare patients like my Dad could use it as well)
 
2014-03-19 03:34:13 PM  

Serious Black: allylloyd: DemonEater: Hey, the affordable care act hurts people with disabilities a lot.

Like my mother, who hasn't walked without crutches or a leg brace since she was 2 thanks to polio.

Before the ACA, she didn't have to spend a single cent - I mean, because of the polio and the coeliac disease and so on, most insurance companies wouldn't even let her buy insurance, and since she ran her own business and so couldn't get a group plan, the ones that would wanted to charge her more than her mortgage.

But now the ACA has passed, after the subsidy she's still going to have to spend literally hundreds of dollars a year on health insurance.  She might even have to spend more money on co-pays and whatnot going to the doctor regularly for the first time in a decade and getting something done about her osteoporosis.  The government burden on her is just sickening.

No sympathy here. Before ACA, I was denied health insurance because I had a "pre-existing" condition. Now I can't be denied coverage.


//How is someone who had polio as a child not listed as permanently disabled and getting SSDI?

My mom had polio as a kid (along with every other child in her family that was alive at the time). Though she has always struggled with common tasks like driving and cooking, she was able to hold down a 9-5 white-collar job.


Then why didn't your mother (or her parents) apply for SSI? If you have SSDI and/or SSI, you can work (dollar amount you can earn changes yearly), but you will also be GUARANTEED affordable health care coverage!!

//Sorry, but NO SYMPATHY for your mommy.
//I have a disability too and I was working 9 to 5 too.
// When I couldn't legally drive, I lost my job.
// Had to go onto SSDI, so I could pay my rent and not be homeless.
 
2014-03-19 03:34:45 PM  

JerkStore: The government hasn't taken over anything.


But that's a terrible sound bite.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-03-19 03:35:38 PM  
Oh, Bizzarro-Obama, you never fail to be entertaining.
 
2014-03-19 03:38:22 PM  

allylloyd: Serious Black: allylloyd: DemonEater: Hey, the affordable care act hurts people with disabilities a lot.

Like my mother, who hasn't walked without crutches or a leg brace since she was 2 thanks to polio.

Before the ACA, she didn't have to spend a single cent - I mean, because of the polio and the coeliac disease and so on, most insurance companies wouldn't even let her buy insurance, and since she ran her own business and so couldn't get a group plan, the ones that would wanted to charge her more than her mortgage.

But now the ACA has passed, after the subsidy she's still going to have to spend literally hundreds of dollars a year on health insurance.  She might even have to spend more money on co-pays and whatnot going to the doctor regularly for the first time in a decade and getting something done about her osteoporosis.  The government burden on her is just sickening.

No sympathy here. Before ACA, I was denied health insurance because I had a "pre-existing" condition. Now I can't be denied coverage.


//How is someone who had polio as a child not listed as permanently disabled and getting SSDI?

My mom had polio as a kid (along with every other child in her family that was alive at the time). Though she has always struggled with common tasks like driving and cooking, she was able to hold down a 9-5 white-collar job.

Then why didn't your mother (or her parents) apply for SSI? If you have SSDI and/or SSI, you can work (dollar amount you can earn changes yearly), but you will also be GUARANTEED affordable health care coverage!!

//Sorry, but NO SYMPATHY for your mommy.
//I have a disability too and I was working 9 to 5 too.
// When I couldn't legally drive, I lost my job.
// Had to go onto SSDI, so I could pay my rent and not be homeless.


She didn't have any trouble getting health coverage. My dad was in the Navy for many years and kept TRICARE coverage. They both got health insurance through their employer now. AFAIK, they didn't have financial problems that might have pushed them into applying for disability coverage for her because of the polio or for him because of his lingering Vietnam injuries.
 
2014-03-19 03:52:54 PM  

Serious Black: allylloyd: Serious Black: allylloyd: DemonEater: Hey, the affordable care act hurts people with disabilities a lot.

Like my mother, who hasn't walked without crutches or a leg brace since she was 2 thanks to polio.

Before the ACA, she didn't have to spend a single cent - I mean, because of the polio and the coeliac disease and so on, most insurance companies wouldn't even let her buy insurance, and since she ran her own business and so couldn't get a group plan, the ones that would wanted to charge her more than her mortgage.

But now the ACA has passed, after the subsidy she's still going to have to spend literally hundreds of dollars a year on health insurance.  She might even have to spend more money on co-pays and whatnot going to the doctor regularly for the first time in a decade and getting something done about her osteoporosis.  The government burden on her is just sickening.

No sympathy here. Before ACA, I was denied health insurance because I had a "pre-existing" condition. Now I can't be denied coverage.


//How is someone who had polio as a child not listed as permanently disabled and getting SSDI?

My mom had polio as a kid (along with every other child in her family that was alive at the time). Though she has always struggled with common tasks like driving and cooking, she was able to hold down a 9-5 white-collar job.

Then why didn't your mother (or her parents) apply for SSI? If you have SSDI and/or SSI, you can work (dollar amount you can earn changes yearly), but you will also be GUARANTEED affordable health care coverage!!

//Sorry, but NO SYMPATHY for your mommy.
//I have a disability too and I was working 9 to 5 too.
// When I couldn't legally drive, I lost my job.
// Had to go onto SSDI, so I could pay my rent and not be homeless.

She didn't have any trouble getting health coverage. My dad was in the Navy for many years and kept TRICARE coverage. They both got health insurance through their employer now. AFAIK, they didn't have financial pr ...


Then what's the problem? Not knowing how to handle  your finances isn't the fault of the US Government or Pres. Obama?

//Years ago, the only way to get health insurance was through your job.
//Now, you won't be denied it and you can pick a plan you like and can afford.
//Stop complaining!
 
2014-03-19 03:55:49 PM  

allylloyd: Serious Black: allylloyd: Serious Black: allylloyd: DemonEater: Hey, the affordable care act hurts people with disabilities a lot.

Like my mother, who hasn't walked without crutches or a leg brace since she was 2 thanks to polio.

Before the ACA, she didn't have to spend a single cent - I mean, because of the polio and the coeliac disease and so on, most insurance companies wouldn't even let her buy insurance, and since she ran her own business and so couldn't get a group plan, the ones that would wanted to charge her more than her mortgage.

But now the ACA has passed, after the subsidy she's still going to have to spend literally hundreds of dollars a year on health insurance.  She might even have to spend more money on co-pays and whatnot going to the doctor regularly for the first time in a decade and getting something done about her osteoporosis.  The government burden on her is just sickening.

No sympathy here. Before ACA, I was denied health insurance because I had a "pre-existing" condition. Now I can't be denied coverage.


//How is someone who had polio as a child not listed as permanently disabled and getting SSDI?

My mom had polio as a kid (along with every other child in her family that was alive at the time). Though she has always struggled with common tasks like driving and cooking, she was able to hold down a 9-5 white-collar job.

Then why didn't your mother (or her parents) apply for SSI? If you have SSDI and/or SSI, you can work (dollar amount you can earn changes yearly), but you will also be GUARANTEED affordable health care coverage!!

//Sorry, but NO SYMPATHY for your mommy.
//I have a disability too and I was working 9 to 5 too.
// When I couldn't legally drive, I lost my job.
// Had to go onto SSDI, so I could pay my rent and not be homeless.

She didn't have any trouble getting health coverage. My dad was in the Navy for many years and kept TRICARE coverage. They both got health insurance through their employer now. AFAIK, they didn't ha ...


I think you've fundamentally misunderstood Serious Black's comments.
 
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