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(Mother Jones)   Do you use K-Cups? Yes? Then you are worse than Hitler if he used styrofoam plates for every meal. I hope you can live with yourself   (motherjones.com) divider line 154
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2014-03-19 12:47:33 PM

PainInTheASP: Spend the ten bucks and get the little mesh plastic "Eco-Cup".  Grind the beans & empty into eco-cup, place in machine, remember to rinse when done.

Bonus: co-workers rarely use it because it's "too much work", leaving your choice of beans unmolested.


And the point for having a "convenience" coffee machine would be?

I'm single, I have no kids.  I could care less what I leave for the next generation.  I didn't add to it population-wise, so I'm expending garbage my psuedo-kids would.

Suck it, you green hippies.
 
2014-03-19 12:48:29 PM
How bad are tea bags?

/Like, literal tea bags. Not those other dumb things
//Or that dirty thing
 
2014-03-19 12:51:15 PM

QuillofNumenor: CipollinaFan:

What is that, a leprechaun's derby hat?


Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:

A shower drain cover filled with a lesbian trucker's pubic droppings?


http://www.amazon.com/San-Francisco-Bay-Coffee-Rainforest/dp/B007TGD XM K

/A Papa Smurf's cauldron
 
2014-03-19 12:53:01 PM

JackieRabbit: K-Culs: the coffee of choice for douche bags who don't really like coffee!


How in the hell do so many people get started on coffee? My wife and I never drink it, but parents and siblings do. Impressive addiction out there.
 
2014-03-19 12:53:40 PM
K-cups? Grind your own beans?

I grow my coffee in my backyard from trees imported directly from Belize. Of course my climate is too arid to sustain them so I put a giant glass dome over it to create a greenhouse effect and re-create the tropical clime. Sure, the HOA griped but I fought them on it an won and people who live in HOA-planned communities are idiots and like every farker on this board I would never live in one willingly.

Anyhow, back to my coffee trees. So I pick my own beans, roast them in stone brick oven fueled by guano obtained from African bat caves. Then I grind them using a stone press I obtained off an old trader while wandering the Himalayas. Yeah the sonofabiatch is heavy but guess what? That's how a man drinks his coffee when he gives a shiat to have the best!

But you nancy boys and fancy lads go ahead and enjoy your little sissy K-cups and your French presses. Christ Jesus, every time a man says the word "Nespresso" his unit shrivels up just a little more and his testosterone levels drop exponentially.
 
2014-03-19 12:53:47 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: Only 50 bucks a pound, too!


Poor people problems. We use the pods because they're incredibly convenient. Sorry.
 
2014-03-19 12:54:11 PM
This whole article is false!  False.  False.  False.

We are all environmentalists up here and would never stand for one of our companies to bludgeon Mother Earth like this!

The K cups at my house never reach the landfill because I use the cups as fire starter in my wood stove!

There, problem solved!
 
2014-03-19 12:56:33 PM
I don't get the appeal. The wife brought one home, and at first I thought it seemed like a good idea. It took me about 30 seconds to realize that those overpriced K-cups were just small containers of instant coffee. I can heat a mug of water in the microwave in about a minute, buy a big-ass tub of cappuccino mix, and achieve the same thing in the same amount of time for a lot less money and without having another damn appliance clogging up my kitchen. Ours was a free hand-me-down, or I'd be pissed that I spent money on it. It's going to disappear one of these days when she's not around.
 
2014-03-19 01:03:54 PM

syberpud: Oh great, this thread again...


The author doesn't realize they make re-usable pods that work with Keurig machines?  Plus you can use your own favorite, fresh stuff!

There is also a line of recyclable K-cups, so calm down.


What percentage of regular Keurig users, do you think, use the alternative reusable pods and scoop coffee into them each day?  Even though I posted a photo of one, I'm betting the answer is less than 1%.  The systems are environmental disasters AS DESIGNED and in practice.  And again, I wouldn't so much mind -- they provide a measurable convenience -- if they didn't produce such godawful coffee.
 
2014-03-19 01:05:58 PM
I use a Tassimo, so I guess I'm like Hitler and Stalin having a CFC hairspray party at a book burning.
 
2014-03-19 01:06:04 PM

mike_d85: I am forced to keep ordering the stupid K cups at my office because everyone loves variety in their coffee.  When I started, there was 2 big urns, one with regular and one with decaf. Now I have to buy the light roast, dark roast, medium roast, 2 flavors, tea, and decaf.  And keep track of how much we have of each.

I bring 1 cup of coffee from home.  I always brought coffee from home.  I never had any interest in the coffee except when running late or having a bad day.  Yes, I'm bitter.

darwinpolice: According to the box, the ones I buy are 97% biodegradable.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go sniff my own farts in my Prius.

of course it is.  Considering 95% of it is the coffee beans inside the cup, it IS 97% biodegradable.


I never got this, people griping "but you don't have MY coffee!"

At my office there's a pot of regular, a pot of decaf, black tea bags, and green tea bags.

If you want anything else, bring it from home and use the hot water tap on the coffee pot.
 
2014-03-19 01:07:33 PM
And the revolt will come when Keurig starts bringing in their new machines that will only make coffee from officially licensed Keurig K-cups.

Keurig Plans to Lock Out Third-Party K-Cups From its New Coffee Makers
 http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/03/12/keurig-plans-to-lo ck- out-third-party-k-cups-from-i.aspx

Keurig 2.0 machines to feature RFID-limited K-cups
 http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/keurig-20-machines-to-feature-r fid -limited-k-cups-030314.html
 
2014-03-19 01:08:23 PM

Odd Bird: Harry Freakstorm: Banned on the Run

First image: I can understand why the mold is growing in the shade but how did it get on her face. Yes. She has a face.

[images.sodahead.com image 245x350]


The tower was the first thing I saw. Hmm.

Nice looking tower, too.
 
2014-03-19 01:11:09 PM
You know who else was worse than Hitler?
 
2014-03-19 01:11:41 PM
I just drink tea.

ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2014-03-19 01:12:00 PM
Why is a cup of coffee referred to as a cup of joe?
 
2014-03-19 01:12:15 PM

Boo_Guy: And the revolt will come when Keurig starts bringing in their new machines that will only make coffee from officially licensed Keurig K-cups.

Keurig Plans to Lock Out Third-Party K-Cups From its New Coffee Makers
 http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/03/12/keurig-plans-to-lo ck- out-third-party-k-cups-from-i.aspx

Keurig 2.0 machines to feature RFID-limited K-cups
 http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/keurig-20-machines-to-feature-r fid -limited-k-cups-030314.html


That will just stop people from buying the Keurig brand makers. The revolt will come when they can prevent other companies from making similar products in general, both cups and makers.
 
2014-03-19 01:12:43 PM
My theory is that the dark matter of the universe consists of discarded coffee cups. Stephen Hawkings won't answer my emails (I kid).

8.3 billion k-cups though, that's a lot of waste to burn, bury or float out to sea and use to kill sealife from the albatross down to the bacteria on the sea floor a couple of hundred years from now. They do have a very good point.

I have purchased a couple boxes of coffee in cups to see if they made decent coffee in a regular percolator. When I am done using them I'll go back to the coffee beans. They're cheaper and can be ground fresh on the rare occasions I drink coffee at home.

I've made several attempts to cut down the environmental impact of coffee. Cups don't help (too heavy, too much washing needed, will take forever to amortize). I stopped taking sugar though. Milk or cream is plenty. I also reuse the paper wrappers that insulate the paper cups as well as lids. They don't last forever but re-using one just once halves the number needed.

That's about all you can do without going back to the XIXth century, but if you want to do that you can probably find a replica of an old hand-cranked coffee grinder. I have seen them very rarely.

A lot of modern convenience is expensive, wastes money, materiel and time, and involves more work than the labor-saving device supposedly saves. For example, a juice-squeezer replaces a $2 glass citrus fruit squeezer that can be rinsed under the tap. You just transfer time from squeezing to washing the machine out, and it takes twice as long to wash the machine out as it does to make orange juice the old fashioned way. The same is true of over-processed convenience foods and pre-packaged store-bought or take-out meals.

Save labor: always take clean-up time and the number of hours you have to work into account when buying labor-saving devices.
 
2014-03-19 01:13:18 PM

KidneyStone: What are these K cups and filters you speak of?
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[www.greenmountaincoffee.com image 260x330]

My father gave me a Keurig for Christmas.  That was two weeks after I bought a new espresso maker and a generic crappy drip machine for making tea.  I gave it to a friend who loves it.


I have one of those stovetop espresso makers that's 40+ years old, got it when my family lived in Spain, except that it's about 3-4 times the size of the little ones. Finding gaskets is a biatch though.

Love Bustelo.
 
2014-03-19 01:17:35 PM

waterrockets: JackieRabbit: K-Culs: the coffee of choice for douche bags who don't really like coffee!

How in the hell do so many people get started on coffee? My wife and I never drink it, but parents and siblings do. Impressive addiction out there.


I started just by having a cup in the mornings when on vacation when I was about 25. It seemed novel and a fun way to start the morning. Then I would have one on the weekends. Then I realized I liked it and began to have one every morning.

My brother is older and still doesn't drink it. I never thought I would but here we are.
 
2014-03-19 01:18:41 PM

Boo_Guy: And the revolt will come when Keurig starts bringing in their new machines that will only make coffee from officially licensed Keurig K-cups.

Keurig Plans to Lock Out Third-Party K-Cups From its New Coffee Makers
 http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/03/12/keurig-plans-to-lo ck- out-third-party-k-cups-from-i.aspx

Keurig 2.0 machines to feature RFID-limited K-cups
 http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/keurig-20-machines-to-feature-r fid -limited-k-cups-030314.html


People are going to be taken completely aback by this, and I have no idea why.  It's not like either RFID tags or the Razor-and-Blades business model are anything new.

If you don't like it, well, there are plenty of other pod coffee machines out there, some of which even use recyclable pods.  Or buy yourself a single-serving-sized French Press and spend the extra 20 seconds it takes to wash the mud down the sink after you've poured your cup, you lazy turd.
 
2014-03-19 01:19:40 PM

spawn73: Why is a cup of coffee referred to as a cup of joe?


Because Joe DiMaggio was born in Columbia.  Little known fact.

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2014-03-19 01:23:30 PM

Splish: Boo_Guy: And the revolt will come when Keurig starts bringing in their new machines that will only make coffee from officially licensed Keurig K-cups.

Keurig Plans to Lock Out Third-Party K-Cups From its New Coffee Makers
 http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/03/12/keurig-plans-to-lo ck- out-third-party-k-cups-from-i.aspx

Keurig 2.0 machines to feature RFID-limited K-cups
 http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/keurig-20-machines-to-feature-r fid -limited-k-cups-030314.html

That will just stop people from buying the Keurig brand makers. The revolt will come when they can prevent other companies from making similar products in general, both cups and makers.


It's still going to piss a lot of people off when the first time they try to use their favorite brand k-cup and their new Keurig tells them no.


People get stabby when you interfere with their caffeine delivery.
 
2014-03-19 01:24:57 PM

Apatheist: How bad are tea bags?


Terrible, just look at the environmental pollution it caused.

www.cr-cath.pvt.k12.ia.us

 
2014-03-19 01:26:42 PM
There is just way too much packaging on everything. I recycle and I still feel like there is just so much waste.

This school needs more grads
http://www.packaging.msu.edu/
 
2014-03-19 01:29:33 PM
Use a little machine from Hamilton Beach that brews from fresh ground coffee in a reusable basket into a 14 oz. container.   Now at the office, they just replaced the old drop machine with an abomination of a percolator.
 
2014-03-19 01:30:14 PM

spawn73: Why is a cup of coffee referred to as a cup of joe?


http://www.snopes.com/language/eponyms/cupofjoe.asp

I always figured it was related to the origins of "americano" style coffee, but I guess nobody's really sure about it.
 
2014-03-19 01:31:16 PM

spawn73: Why is a cup of coffee referred to as a cup of joe?


Mud
Go Juice
Mrs. Olsen
 
2014-03-19 01:33:10 PM

HaywoodJablonski: HotIgneous Intruder: Only 50 bucks a pound, too!

Poor people problems. We use the pods because they're incredibly convenient. Sorry.


This.
 
2014-03-19 01:35:16 PM

waterrockets: JackieRabbit: K-Culs: the coffee of choice for douche bags who don't really like coffee!

How in the hell do so many people get started on coffee? My wife and I never drink it, but parents and siblings do. Impressive addiction out there.


It's free at basically every office job.
 
2014-03-19 01:36:02 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Billy Bathsalt: The real problem is that the stores used to carry ground coffee and whole beans, if you don't want your coffee to taste like pyramid dust.  Now they carry ground dust and k-cups full of ground dust.

Stores still carry ground coffee and whole beans though. Unless you were getting your coffee from Bed Bath and Beyond, in which case, they've always carried just the k-cups and why the hell are you getting coffee from a BBandB?


Because with those 20% off coupons theyre always mailing, its the cheapest place to buy K-cups?
 
2014-03-19 01:40:51 PM
My work has a recycling bin for the K-Cups. The grounds become compost, and the plastic gets recycled.

The wife uses regular K-Cups at home, and they get trashed, but I like to experiment with coffee so I have a reusable K-Cup and a burr grinder designed to dump fresh grounds into it. Incidentally, the current beans are shade-grown coffee I bought at a zoo - it really does taste fantastic.
 
2014-03-19 01:41:13 PM
K-cars okay?
 
2014-03-19 01:43:12 PM
My experience with K-cups is from extensive business hotels, which seem to love them. K-cups make poor quality coffee. I've tried buying fancier ones, but wasn't able to find one that made a good cup of coffee.

Reusable pods solve the waste problem, and perhaps the taste (not sure, but I'd assume it'd be better with fresh beans), but I don't see how that's convenient.

Real convenience is grinding the beans before bed, setting the timer, and waking up to a fresh pot of coffee just waiting to be drank.

At work, a french press works great with the hot water tap.

Good coffee is not magic. It's rather simple.
 
2014-03-19 01:43:29 PM

Far Cough: syberpud: Oh great, this thread again...


The author doesn't realize they make re-usable pods that work with Keurig machines?  Plus you can use your own favorite, fresh stuff!

There is also a line of recyclable K-cups, so calm down.

What percentage of regular Keurig users, do you think, use the alternative reusable pods and scoop coffee into them each day?  Even though I posted a photo of one, I'm betting the answer is less than 1%.  The systems are environmental disasters AS DESIGNED and in practice.  And again, I wouldn't so much mind -- they provide a measurable convenience -- if they didn't produce such godawful coffee.


Count me (and my gf) among the EkoBrew users (although I had no idea they came out with a stainless one.  WANT.).  I still have to get an EkoBrew cup for my office (although I use at most 1 K-cup per day here), and the cost per cup is far less with ground coffee than the pods anyway.

/my two cents
 
2014-03-19 01:44:51 PM
Keurig just released a sustainability report announcing that the company plans to make all coffee pods recyclable by 2020, among other ecofriendly efforts. The company says it's evaluating the type of plastic used in the cups, exploring potential biodegradable and compostable packaging, and coming up with an easier way for customers to easily prepare them for recycling.

Bullshiat. They started a product in tyool 2010 or something knowing full well that its success would lead to people throwing millions of non-recyclable cups in the garbage and they steamed right on ahead because the environment takes a back seat to the inconvenience of a whiny crybabby who can't wash a pot with the same water used to fill it.
 
2014-03-19 01:45:17 PM

Lawnchair: I don't see 1/100th the hate for, say, beer bottles (recyclable with quite a bit of energy, but usually downcycled at best), drink boxes, various plastic soft drink containers, and on down the line.

Not to say I like K-cups a lot, but perspective seems lacking.


IMO, it's because we already had a good method of making coffee that produced far less waste than this. K-cups move in the opposite direction of sustainability.

It'd be like if we all had kegs in our homes, then one day everyone started drinking bottles. All of a sudden, there's a huge increase in waste generation.
 
2014-03-19 01:48:28 PM
I'm okay with that. We use a reusable mesh k-cup with some coffees, the plastic disposables for other and tea, or a single serve coffee dispenser for others. We take our caffeine consumption seriously.

/recycles more than we dispose
 
2014-03-19 01:50:13 PM

mutterfark: K-cars okay?


You obviously never drove one.
 
2014-03-19 01:55:10 PM

stewbert: Lawnchair: I don't see 1/100th the hate for, say, beer bottles (recyclable with quite a bit of energy, but usually downcycled at best), drink boxes, various plastic soft drink containers, and on down the line.

Not to say I like K-cups a lot, but perspective seems lacking.

IMO, it's because we already had a good method of making coffee that produced far less waste than this. K-cups move in the opposite direction of sustainability.

It'd be like if we all had kegs in our homes, then one day everyone started drinking bottles. All of a sudden, there's a huge increase in waste generation.


You're dealing with a generation that has voluntarily dumped phone calls for texts, which are much less information dense. Like the text, the K-cup makes sense in certain limited situations but adopting it for everything is a giant step backwards.
 
2014-03-19 01:55:12 PM
/sits back and watches the idiots fight, while enjoying a cup from my grandmothers pot, from the 1940's given to me when she passed in 1997. Take that tree huggers.

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-19 01:55:14 PM
We've been through the full round of coffeemakers... old school stove-top percolaters, regular Mr Coffee drip types, french press.  We use the Keurig because we're not huge coffee drinkers.  Maybe a cup each on a weekend morning, or if there is some pressing morning appointment and someone needs a caffeine hit.  We tried the reusable things and the ones we bought didn't actually fit the machine.  I have somehow managed to live with myself.
 
2014-03-19 01:55:23 PM
I've never used them for this very reason.  I don't expect you to care but I do love a good gloat now and then so neener-neener-neener.
 
2014-03-19 01:56:45 PM

waterrockets: JackieRabbit: K-Culs: the coffee of choice for douche bags who don't really like coffee!

How in the hell do so many people get started on coffee? My wife and I never drink it, but parents and siblings do. Impressive addiction out there.


I'm a big fatass, and I wanted to quit drinking pop without murdering everyone in the building due to caffeine withdrawal. Black coffee has even more go juice, and none of the calories. I'm not terribly fussy though, I'll drink just about any truck stop coffee you throw my way.
 
2014-03-19 01:57:58 PM
I have this
www.hamiltonbeach.com
Half the price of a Keurig and comes with two scoop/filters. No need to go out and pay extra just to get a reusable K-cup.

/Plus you can brew a single cup, or a double cup to fill a travel mug.
 
2014-03-19 02:00:43 PM
PainInTheASP: Spend the ten bucks and get the little mesh plastic "Eco-Cup".  Grind the beans & empty into eco-cup, place in machine, remember to rinse when done.

Bonus: co-workers rarely use it because it's "too much work", leaving your choice of beans unmolested.

We have 2 - one for my wife' ...



I bought a 3-pack for myself, works well.  However, a few months ago, I got my first cholesterol warning from my Doc.  Apart from just being middle aged, the only real change in my diet has been unfiltered (paper filters) coffee which is said to extract cholesterol.  These k-cups now and, before that, a metal filter in my old brewer.

Anyone got ideas on if there's such a thing as paper inserts for k-cups?
 
2014-03-19 02:01:36 PM

Pokey.Clyde: I have this
[www.hamiltonbeach.com image 398x314]
Half the price of a Keurig and comes with two scoop/filters. No need to go out and pay extra just to get a reusable K-cup.

/Plus you can brew a single cup, or a double cup to fill a travel mug.


Oh, if anyone's wondering, it's made by Hamilton Beach and runs about $50.
 
2014-03-19 02:02:28 PM
img.fark.net
/turns k-cups into tulips and lightbulbs
 
2014-03-19 02:02:39 PM

George_Spelvin: PainInTheASP: Spend the ten bucks and get the little mesh plastic "Eco-Cup".  Grind the beans & empty into eco-cup, place in machine, remember to rinse when done.

Bonus: co-workers rarely use it because it's "too much work", leaving your choice of beans unmolested.

We have 2 - one for my wife' ...


I bought a 3-pack for myself, works well.  However, a few months ago, I got my first cholesterol warning from my Doc.  Apart from just being middle aged, the only real change in my diet has been unfiltered (paper filters) coffee which is said to extract cholesterol.  These k-cups now and, before that, a metal filter in my old brewer.

Anyone got ideas on if there's such a thing as paper inserts for k-cups?


Huh?  The Atkins/Paleo people keep shouting that dietary cholesterol has nothing to do with blood cholesterol?
 
2014-03-19 02:04:43 PM

schnee: [img.fark.net image 480x640]
/turns k-cups into tulips and lightbulbs


Wow that's a lot of cardboard and black ink and plastic bagging.  At least they're consistent.
 
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