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(Classic Rock Magazine)   Bitter Ace Frehley says he has no problems with current KISS lineup being named to the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame. Although he does refer to it as "half a Kiss cover band." And don't get him started on ... uh-oh, someone got him started on Gene Simmons   (classicrockmagazine.com) divider line 59
    More: Amusing, Ace Frehley, Peter Criss, cover band, Eric Singer, Paul Stanley, Tommy Thayer  
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2014-03-19 11:25:06 AM
I have always thought it must be weird to dress up like someone else and play their music - they could have at least given new members a new look instead of going with Ace and Peter's exact makeup and costumes. That's what makes it seem like a cover band.

When my band's guitarist moved away, we didn't make the new guy change his hair and clothes to trick people into feeling like Byron was Russ... because that's just ridiculous.
 
2014-03-19 11:34:08 AM
Well.....he is right
 
2014-03-19 12:33:16 PM
An angry voice from beyond the grave.
 
2014-03-19 12:34:32 PM

serpent_sky: I have always thought it must be weird to dress up like someone else and play their music - they could have at least given new members a new look instead of going with Ace and Peter's exact makeup and costumes. That's what makes it seem like a cover band.

When my band's guitarist moved away, we didn't make the new guy change his hair and clothes to trick people into feeling like Byron was Russ... because that's just ridiculous.


img811.imageshack.us

They actually did try that at one point.  People didn't want to see new makeup.
 
2014-03-19 12:35:32 PM
Ace was the best talent in the band, but had the least initiative and was the most self-destructive. That was his downfall.

/You can always tell when it's one of his songs on a Kiss album, because it'll have actual personality, and not just sound like, "rock anthem #3," or "rock ballad #28."
//And you could tell when it was one of Peter's because it just suuuuuuuucked.
 
2014-03-19 12:40:41 PM
I wonder what it's like to be in a band where most of the members appear to be in an active race to prove which one is the biggest douche.
 
2014-03-19 12:42:44 PM

Skarekrough: I wonder what it's like to be in a band where most of the members appear to be in an active race to prove which one is the biggest douche.


All of this is just being passed around to puff up interest in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony. Last year's big story was Rush. This year it's Kiss. At this rate they'll get to Triumph in about 25 years.
 
2014-03-19 12:49:03 PM
Old Jewish men kvetching and kvetching and kvetching ...
 
2014-03-19 12:58:46 PM

verbaltoxin: Skarekrough: I wonder what it's like to be in a band where most of the members appear to be in an active race to prove which one is the biggest douche.

All of this is just being passed around to puff up interest in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony. Last year's big story was Rush. This year it's Kiss. At this rate they'll get to Triumph in about 25 years.


Wake me when they get to the Atlanta Rhythm Section
 
2014-03-19 12:59:54 PM
The HOF is a joke with some of it's inductees. The Moody Blues and Deep Purple not being in is a testament to how irrelevant the HOF is.
 
2014-03-19 01:01:04 PM
their makeup, costume and fireworks people should get in, because thats the only reason they got big enough to make the hall of fame.
 
2014-03-19 01:01:53 PM
Fark KISS. Paul Stanley needs to come out of the closet already. Yeah, I said it.
 
2014-03-19 01:03:04 PM
KISS missed a great opportunity here.  Especially if what Paul says about there never having been any plans to perform in the first place is true.  KISS' induction is way overdue (at least if you believe they belong in the RRHOF, not that such a place actually exists...).  They have been at the top of the "snub list" for years.  When they finally got the nod, they should have just said, "GFY, Jann.  We're not interested in any association with your joke of museum.", and saved themselves looking like total twats arguing over who gets the privilege of playing 3 songs at a place that clearly doesn't want them, and only deigned to admit them after years of continuous pressure by millions of rabid fans.
 
2014-03-19 01:03:11 PM
Still bitter after all these years.
 
2014-03-19 01:05:06 PM

Carak: Fark KISS. Paul Stanley needs to come out of the closet already. Yeah, I said it.


Do you have a vested interested in his particular orientation?
 
2014-03-19 01:11:46 PM

Crewmannumber6: Carak: Fark KISS. Paul Stanley needs to come out of the closet already. Yeah, I said it.

Do you have a vested interested in his particular orientation?


LOL no. I'm a woman.
 
2014-03-19 01:12:18 PM

verbaltoxin: Skarekrough: I wonder what it's like to be in a band where most of the members appear to be in an active race to prove which one is the biggest douche.

All of this is just being passed around to puff up interest in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony. Last year's big story was Rush. This year it's Kiss. At this rate they'll get to Triumph in about 25 years.


www.emmys.com
 
2014-03-19 01:13:21 PM
And still they will be releasing all the Peter/Ace  Albums on vinyl.
 
2014-03-19 01:14:08 PM

Carak: Crewmannumber6: Carak: Fark KISS. Paul Stanley needs to come out of the closet already. Yeah, I said it.

Do you have a vested interested in his particular orientation?

LOL no. I'm a woman.


In that case, how YOU doin?
 
2014-03-19 01:18:14 PM

Crewmannumber6: Carak: Crewmannumber6: Carak: Fark KISS. Paul Stanley needs to come out of the closet already. Yeah, I said it.

Do you have a vested interested in his particular orientation?

LOL no. I'm a woman.

In that case, how YOU doin?


;)
 
2014-03-19 01:22:15 PM

wiseolddude: The HOF is a joke with some of it's inductees. The Moody Blues and Deep Purple not being in is a testament to how irrelevant the HOF is.


Any true blue rock & roller would show up at the HoF drunk just to tell everyone in attendance what a bunch of pricks they all are. Then he would puke on the stage and walk off with both middle fingers held high.

rock & roll used to be about fark the establishment and fark the man.

The hall of fame should be burned to the ground on general principal.
 
2014-03-19 01:22:21 PM

Carak: Fark KISS. Paul Stanley needs to come out of the closet already. Yeah, I said it.


Paul's youngest child is 4, and he has 3 older children by two marriages. If he's secretly anything, he's bi.
 
2014-03-19 01:22:59 PM

wiseolddude: The HOF is a joke with some of it's inductees. The Moody Blues and Deep Purple not being in is a testament to how irrelevant the HOF is.


And Yes, and King Crimson.
 
2014-03-19 01:32:29 PM

verbaltoxin: Paul's youngest child is 4, and he has 3 older children by two marriages. If he's secretly anything, he's bi.



Tom Cruise approves this message.
 
2014-03-19 01:34:40 PM
They can still pull in their groupies...

jeffreycampbellshoes.com

www.ericfoster.org
 
2014-03-19 01:35:38 PM
Ace is back and I told you so.

/creativity
 
2014-03-19 01:50:00 PM
I could care less about KISS, but I read this "tell all" book years back and my only memory of it was that it was hilarious .... and ripped on Ace Frehley constantly.  The stories of how the wanker would dissemble electronics with no idea of how to put them back together to "improve them" were a riot.

www.kissasylum.com
 
2014-03-19 01:57:12 PM
Man, try and find 5 people with nice things to say about Gene Simmons.
 
2014-03-19 02:16:30 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: wiseolddude: The HOF is a joke with some of it's inductees. The Moody Blues and Deep Purple not being in is a testament to how irrelevant the HOF is.

And Yes, and King Crimson.


With '70s bands you can probably judge their HOF worthiness by looking for their catalog online.  Yes is available, King Crimson, not at the Google Store anyway.  I don't have iTunes store access right now but I'm guessing not there either.
 
2014-03-19 02:28:41 PM

give me doughnuts: Still bitter dead after all these years.


Really, no one else?  Did that meme die?  Because I didn't get the the memo.
 
2014-03-19 02:31:56 PM

Odd Bird: give me doughnuts: Still bitter dead after all these years.

Really, no one else?  Did that meme die?  Because I didn't get the the memo.


No:

Robert1966: An angry voice from beyond the grave.

 
2014-03-19 02:57:20 PM

wiseolddude: The HOF is a joke with some of it's inductees. The Moody Blues and Deep Purple not being in is a testament to how irrelevant the HOF is.



Are they seriously not inducted yet? Holy f**k! That place should be burned down.
 
2014-03-19 02:59:38 PM
So does this mean we get Dinosaur Jr. covering Goin' Blind at the induction ceremony? Maybe The Melvins? A Garth Brooks led medley?
Whoever performs in Kiss's place should do Beth, for the lulz.
 
2014-03-19 03:05:26 PM

BATMANATEE: So does this mean we get Dinosaur Jr. covering Goin' Blind at the induction ceremony? Maybe The Melvins? A Garth Brooks led medley?
Whoever performs in Kiss's place should do Beth, for the lulz.


On the bright side, we are probably being saved from hearing them play God Gave Rock and Roll to You.

/which isn't their song anyway.....
 
2014-03-19 03:07:23 PM

The Muthaship: BATMANATEE: So does this mean we get Dinosaur Jr. covering Goin' Blind at the induction ceremony? Maybe The Melvins? A Garth Brooks led medley?
Whoever performs in Kiss's place should do Beth, for the lulz.

On the bright side, we are probably being saved from hearing them play God Gave Rock and Roll to You.

/which isn't their song anyway.....


Neither is Beth, really. Peter wrote and recorded it with his previous band first.
 
2014-03-19 03:09:04 PM

BATMANATEE: Peter wrote and recorded it with his previous band first.


Was one of the guys in Argent?;)
 
2014-03-19 03:11:30 PM

Orgasmatron138: Man, try and find 5 people with nice things to say about Gene Simmons.



He is truly one of the great douches of Rock and Roll.
 
2014-03-19 03:25:10 PM

The Muthaship: Argent


No, but Peter was in Chelsea.
 
2014-03-19 03:26:27 PM

BATMANATEE: The Muthaship: Argent

No, but Peter was in Chelsea.


Yeah, I was just messing with you.

I think Argent did that horrible God Gave R&R to You crap.
 
2014-03-19 03:30:03 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: The hall of fame should be burned to the ground on general principal.


With Jann Werner locked inside.
 
2014-03-19 04:00:45 PM

The Muthaship: BATMANATEE: The Muthaship: Argent

No, but Peter was in Chelsea.

Yeah, I was just messing with you.

I think Argent did that horrible God Gave R&R to You crap.


Russ Ballard of Argent wrote New York Groove, originally recorded by Hello.
 
2014-03-19 04:11:32 PM

The Muthaship: BATMANATEE: So does this mean we get Dinosaur Jr. covering Goin' Blind at the induction ceremony? Maybe The Melvins? A Garth Brooks led medley?
Whoever performs in Kiss's place should do Beth, for the lulz.

On the bright side, we are probably being saved from hearing them play God Gave Rock and Roll to You.

/which isn't their song anyway.....


CSB

I got my co workers to break into "god gave rock and roll to you" yesterday in the brewery.

...We are prone to breaking out in song,

no, no elaborately cheorographed dance numbers... yet.
 
2014-03-19 04:12:25 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses: serpent_sky: I have always thought it must be weird to dress up like someone else and play their music - they could have at least given new members a new look instead of going with Ace and Peter's exact makeup and costumes. That's what makes it seem like a cover band.

When my band's guitarist moved away, we didn't make the new guy change his hair and clothes to trick people into feeling like Byron was Russ... because that's just ridiculous.



They actually did try that at one point.  People didn't want to see new makeup.


I remember that, because I am old.
 
2014-03-19 04:14:57 PM

Carak: Fark KISS. Paul Stanley needs to come out of the closet already. Yeah, I said it.


Androgyny hot when KISS started, and was an essential part of the whole 'Glam Rock' genre.
 
2014-03-19 04:18:14 PM

Crewmannumber6: verbaltoxin: Skarekrough: I wonder what it's like to be in a band where most of the members appear to be in an active race to prove which one is the biggest douche.

All of this is just being passed around to puff up interest in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony. Last year's big story was Rush. This year it's Kiss. At this rate they'll get to Triumph in about 25 years.

Wake me when they get to the Atlanta Rhythm Section

Starland Vocal Band.
 
2014-03-19 04:21:05 PM

serpent_sky: I have always thought it must be weird to dress up like someone else and play their music - they could have at least given new members a new look instead of going with Ace and Peter's exact makeup and costumes. That's what makes it seem like a cover band.

When my band's guitarist moved away, we didn't make the new guy change his hair and clothes to trick people into feeling like Byron was Russ... because that's just ridiculous.


When Vinnie Vincent and Eric Carr joined, they had their own makeup designs and personas (later replacements, Mark St. John and Bruce Kulik, joined during the period when KISS eschewed the makeup and costumes), so I have no idea why the new guys weren't allowed to do so as well.
 
2014-03-19 04:26:31 PM
Yes, Ace Frehley is still living. People who only half-listen to the news jumped to the conclusion that Ace was gone when former, and very brief Kiss guitarist Mark St. John passed away. It wasn't the original guitarist, or the second one. It was the third guy who played on only one album.
 
2014-03-19 04:28:50 PM

Skarekrough: I wonder what it's like to be in a band where most of the members appear to be in an active race to prove which one is the biggest douche.


I read Peter Criss' biography "Makeup To Breakup", and good god, they were all trainwrecks on legs. Gene was a complete control freak that couldn't get enough pussy. Didn't matter how fat and/or ugly the groupie was, just as long as she had a pulse and a vagina. Ace Frehley was a head-case that would jack-off at the most inappropriate times. Paul Stanley was a little too obsessed with interior design, curtain patterns, and spending lots of time alone in his room with guys (NTTAWWT). Even Peter Criss didn't hold back on himself, admitting that he was a sloppy drunk who couldn't keep his dick in his pants. It's a pretty interesting read
 
2014-03-19 04:30:05 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Russ Ballard of Argent wrote New York Groove, originally recorded by Hello.


It's the circle of suck!
 
2014-03-19 04:32:17 PM

uncoveror: Yes, Ace Frehley is still living. People who only half-listen to the news jumped to the conclusion that Ace was gone when former, and very brief Kiss guitarist Mark St. John passed away. It wasn't the original guitarist, or the second one. It was the third guy who played on only one album.


I checked your profile, you've been here long enough to know better.
 
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