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(ABC)   This is the first time we've seen the 'I had my penis cut off, so those prostitute murders I committed before as a man were somebody else' defense   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 37
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2014-03-19 05:55:18 AM
Kinda makes the Chewbacca defense sensible.
 
2014-03-19 08:54:03 AM
I sort of get where she's coming from. Little rumpel gives me a lot of bad advice, and I'd be in jail for sure if I deferred to his wishes. On the other hand, when I was a kid, if I got caught at something and tried to pin the blame on one of the numerous bad influences I hung around with, that never worked, even then. So lopping the guy off and saying, "He's gone now, you don't have to worry about that happening again" doesn't seem like a promising strategy.
 
2014-03-19 10:16:18 AM
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2014-03-19 10:19:10 AM
The rare "penis chopped off" trifecta is in play today.
 
2014-03-19 10:21:46 AM

Frank N Stein: The rare "penis chopped off" trifecta is in play today.


If you consider the whole week, it's actually complete. We had some British guy get his willy chopped off and discarded on what passes for an interstate over there.
 
2014-03-19 10:22:32 AM
Seems to me like it's less about the penis than the balls.  That's where the testosterone comes from, right?
 
2014-03-19 10:24:07 AM
I know how this movie turns out....somewhere under the floorboards is a modified wooden toilet roll holder that lets Donna transform back into Doug
 
2014-03-19 10:26:13 AM
Why, if you don't agree you're positively transphobic, you big bigot!
 
2014-03-19 10:27:43 AM
This is a pretty shiatty thing for this person to do to the trans community in the name of self preservation. I have to imagine that if the defense attorney is running with this then the case is pretty open and shut and he's just taking wild, desperate swings in order to maneuver for some inkling of specially consideration during sentencing.
 
2014-03-19 10:34:10 AM
So you're saying his defense doesn't have a point?

Is that the length of it?

At least he won't hang for his crimes.

/spent
 
2014-03-19 10:37:27 AM
OK then, he'll serve the sentence.
 
2014-03-19 10:38:00 AM
Sorry, Stumpy, that one ain't gonna fly.
Berkowitz' dog may be dead, but he's still guilty.
 
2014-03-19 10:38:17 AM

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Who dat who say who dat who say who dat?
Who dat?
Who dat did dat?
I taught I taw a poody tat.
 
2014-03-19 10:51:19 AM
In my professional opinion, this case can be summed up with
AHHHHHHHHH, KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE! BURN THE MONSTER!
 
2014-03-19 10:54:00 AM
Point of order: the penis hasn't gone anywhere. It gets and flipped and folded around like origami into a vulva and vagina. The testicles are long gone though.

I would have said that she's doing transgendered people a disservice, but after RTFA, I see that in the process of picking apart her defense, the experts are also picking apart a lot of the myths about transgendered people.
 
2014-03-19 10:56:19 AM
It'll probably go over about as well as the sovereign citizen analog: "I'm not the person you indicted, 'Gaesous Anomaly', my legal name is 'GASE;OUS:ANOM.ALY}'.
 
2014-03-19 10:59:51 AM

GhostFish: This is a pretty shiatty thing for this person to do to the trans community in the name of self preservation. I have to imagine that if the defense attorney is running with this then the case is pretty open and shut and he's just taking wild, desperate swings in order to maneuver for some inkling of specially consideration during sentencing.


Something tells me this is going to end up in the Christian Right's Leopold and Loeb "OMG LGBT folks are violent pervs" file.  The file is a big as the list of 'white male fans of Tyler Perry movies', but as long as they have a handful of examples, the hate machine will role on.  So, yeah, she is totally throwing the community under the bus, and for nothing.
 
2014-03-19 11:04:35 AM
FTFA:

"It's a certain way that they use the metaphor when transitioning for those who were very unhappy before and now are happy," he said. "But it's different when a person makes a claim that somehow they have no linkage to the person they used to be -- that would be more of a disturbed presentation."

Having a gender identity disorder is not considered a mental illness, according to the American Psychiatric Association.

"It's wrong to generalize from this person's life - it's not typical of the transgender experience," said Drescher, who does not know Perry and is not connected to the case.


Commit murder go to jail.
 
2014-03-19 11:05:38 AM

ruta: Point of order: the penis hasn't gone anywhere. It gets and flipped and folded around like origami into a vulva and vagina. The testicles are long gone though.

I would have said that she's doing transgendered people a disservice, but after RTFA, I see that in the process of picking apart her defense, the experts are also picking apart a lot of the myths about transgendered people.


So they turn the outtie into an innie?
 
2014-03-19 11:10:10 AM

ruta: Point of order: the penis hasn't gone anywhere. It gets and flipped and folded around like origami into a vulva and vagina. The testicles are long gone though.

I would have said that she's doing transgendered people a disservice, but after RTFA, I see that in the process of picking apart her defense, the experts are also picking apart a lot of the myths about transgendered people.


It may still lead to some PR disservice, but you're right about the myth dispelling, in court and thus setting precedents, is awesome.  Transgender is generally someone taking steps to become what they've always felt they really were...  So unless she wants to try for a defense that relies on convincing the court that she actually had split personalities, and Donna prevailed over Doug... so good luck with that.
 
2014-03-19 11:12:47 AM
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2014-03-19 11:19:52 AM
It would take some real balls to use that kind of defense.  Fortunately his/hers were kept in a jar following the surgery.
 
2014-03-19 11:20:39 AM
I don't think that's how gender reassignment works.

/ but I'm no expert
 
2014-03-19 11:25:17 AM

Mega Steve: I know how this movie turns out....somewhere under the floorboards is a modified wooden toilet roll holder that lets Donna transform back into Doug


Wow, just...wow.
 
2014-03-19 11:26:35 AM
 
2014-03-19 11:26:57 AM
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2014-03-19 11:32:11 AM
While in general no-one will buy the whole "I was a different person". I can sorta buy the idea of "I was mentally disturbed at the time, now I'm different and won't kill anyone". That that gets her off from the crime, but it might play into sentencing.
 
2014-03-19 11:42:12 AM
Maybe the logic was, if you're going to spend a life in prison it might as well be a female prison?
 
2014-03-19 11:51:07 AM

GhostFish: This is a pretty shiatty thing for this person to do to the trans community in the name of self preservation. I have to imagine that if the defense attorney is running with this then the case is pretty open and shut and he's just taking wild, desperate swings in order to maneuver for some inkling of specially consideration during sentencing.


Yeah... I doubt anyone who murders hookers for fun really cares about in the "trans community", other than using that identity to try and evade responsibility. Won't work, of course.
 
2014-03-19 12:01:13 PM
I can't say I'm surprised by this.

I work in collections and I remember this one time we did try to collect on a tranny.  Tried to claim that since it was no longer male that the previous debt didn't apply.

We still wound up suing and getting a wage garnishment though.  The courts don't buy that excuse, even if the trannies do.
 
2014-03-19 12:02:17 PM

ruta: Point of order: the penis hasn't gone anywhere. It gets and flipped and folded around like origami into a vulva and vagina. The testicles are long gone though.

I would have said that she's doing transgendered people a disservice, but after RTFA, I see that in the process of picking apart her defense, the experts are also picking apart a lot of the myths about transgendered people.


Whelp...that's enough internet for me today.

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2014-03-19 12:09:28 PM
Whacking off penises cures violence? We just found a way to clear out the prions.
 
2014-03-19 12:22:06 PM

devek: Maybe the logic was, if you're going to spend a life in prison it might as well be a female prison?


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2014-03-19 12:54:05 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Joe Biden made this very same argument when he was found to be plagiarizing a speech during his failed Presidential nominee campaign?
 
2014-03-19 02:10:16 PM
So, is she single?
 
2014-03-19 03:20:29 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: devek: Maybe the logic was, if you're going to spend a life in prison it might as well be a female prison?

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2014-03-20 12:06:26 AM
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