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2014-03-19 11:48:27 AM  

misanthropologist: Cerebral Ballsy: b0rscht: Women's Studies major. I'm speechless.

Nothing says "I came here to find a husband" like a worthless major.

Also, you're wrong. The MRS is rarely (almost never) granted to Women's Studies majors. You're thinking Psychology, Sociology, Food and Nutrition Studies, maybe even Kinesiology, those kind of disciplines.


I was really just making a joke based on what I heard from a few women in college. "I'm only here to meet a husband" was the response I got when I asked someone what career their major was for.
 
2014-03-19 11:49:06 AM  

Zizzowop: why would people be giving her death threats.


A false belief in anonymity.
 
2014-03-19 11:49:23 AM  

ferretman: All these comments and not one link to any of her videos?


Fine. At the risk of getting banned...here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
 
2014-03-19 11:50:08 AM  

lennavan: spiderpaz: Not even close. I'm a software engineer. I'm just stating a fact that easy money is only easy because there's not a straight up competition for it since 99% of people would look at the risk/reward and decide it wasn't worth it or that it was immoral or shameful. They're not making that money because they're so outstanding at what they do that they're "out-competing" everyone else at it. They don't deserve admiration for what they do. Especially when they say outright that if they could afford to not do it, they wouldn't. This woman admitted that the only reason she's doing porn is because she was forced to do it financially.

Yes, she also says:

doing pornography fulfills me
My experience in porn has been nothing but supportive, exciting, thrilling and empowering
something I absolutely love
shooting pornography brings me unimaginable joy
It is my artistic outlet: my love, my happiness, my home.
have never felt more empowered or happy doing anything else
It is freeing, it is empowering, it is wonderful, it is how the world should be.

http://www.xojane.com/sex/duke-university-freshman-porn-star

So she is only doing this "wonderful, fulfilling, unimaginably joyous activity" because she is being forced to by Duke and the moment she graduates, she's going to quit her "love, happiness and home."  That's the story we are being sold.  And to question her is to be a slut shaming misogynist.


YOu understand that young people often act against their upbringing or convention in a way to expand boundaries and experience new things.  People who join the peace corp, or a commune, or become ultra involved in a cause express the exact same sentiments that this person has.  I have no doubt that all of their expressions are sincere.  Is it sustainable, in most cases, no.  But that doesn't make it any less true at this moment.

And she is not the only porn star who has expressed these same emotions.  I am not sure what your issue is that you find youself incapable of giving her the benefit of the doubt.  And yes, it comes off as slut shaming and misogynestic (especially odd for someone who acknowledges watching porn).
 
2014-03-19 11:50:50 AM  

lennavan: spiderpaz: Not even close. I'm a software engineer. I'm just stating a fact that easy money is only easy because there's not a straight up competition for it since 99% of people would look at the risk/reward and decide it wasn't worth it or that it was immoral or shameful. They're not making that money because they're so outstanding at what they do that they're "out-competing" everyone else at it. They don't deserve admiration for what they do. Especially when they say outright that if they could afford to not do it, they wouldn't. This woman admitted that the only reason she's doing porn is because she was forced to do it financially.

Yes, she also says:

doing pornography fulfills me
My experience in porn has been nothing but supportive, exciting, thrilling and empowering
something I absolutely love
shooting pornography brings me unimaginable joy
It is my artistic outlet: my love, my happiness, my home.
have never felt more empowered or happy doing anything else
It is freeing, it is empowering, it is wonderful, it is how the world should be.

http://www.xojane.com/sex/duke-university-freshman-porn-star

So she is only doing this "wonderful, fulfilling, unimaginably joyous activity" because she is being forced to by Duke and the moment she graduates, she's going to quit her "love, happiness and home."  That's the story we are being sold.  And to question her is to be a slut shaming misogynist.


You never quit a job or career you enjoyed because of better opportunities? I have but maybe that's just me.

Anyway, maybe you should email or call the girl to tell her how much she dislikes her job and is a broken, pitiful person. I'm sure that would help set het straight. You've already told Fark. While it is noble to not let us suffer the girl's delusions/lies, you can correct her self delusion at the source. Seriously, I bet no one has told her that her job sucks yet and you could provide a warm, fatherly influence that she's apparently lacking.
 
2014-03-19 11:51:20 AM  

TrainingWheelsNeeded: I also believe that there are hard-wired psychological tendencies passed through billions of years of evolution that filter differently the sex experience for men and women. That a woman's natural predisposition or instinctual nature toward sex is more family and mentally oriented in her psyche, which makes turning out different sexual partners difficult behavior to reconcile. This may even be a part of a larger human condition, as after a period of loose and free sex I felt unfulfilled and held a low self-esteem, wanted a change, something more stable and real.


You're mistaking cultural values for hard-wired products of biological evolution. It's okay, bioreductivism is pretty hegemonic in American (global?) thought these days. The mistake is that you're ascribing to "nature" what is in reality a product of enculturation into a specific social context, and heading towards extending the argument that what is "natural" is thus also "moral" and "right." If you'd simply shift the basis of your argument to recognize that socially constructed gender roles and stereotypes shape our expectations and experiences of sexual activity, and that in a society that publicly values monogamy and equates sex with enduring romantic love and relationships, you'd have a stronger argument about the mechanism that creates psychological distress among many people who participate in non-normative sexual behavior.
 
2014-03-19 11:51:47 AM  

Clint_Torres: ferretman: All these comments and not one link to any of her videos?

Fine. At the risk of getting banned...here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ


Dude, you need label that crap NSFW.

I do like her entusiasm
 
2014-03-19 11:52:54 AM  

MycroftHolmes: I agree with you above point that people who name drop about all the philosophy books that they have read in an effort to look smart are really just douches.

You might get the irony after a bit.


I mentioned Hobbes because I wanted to give the reader an idea of where my formal education of the subject ends, which is why I said I don't have a very good grasp on philosophy past his writings. "Hobbes" is just a marker to show where I am in uneducated philosophical territory, which is quite the opposite of an "effort to look smart"

Reading is fundamental.
 
2014-03-19 11:53:03 AM  
 
2014-03-19 11:55:22 AM  

elysive: You never quit a job or career you enjoyed because of better opportunities? I have but maybe that's just me.


Did you not read what I directly quoted from her?  What possible BETTER opportunity could there be than a job that:

 fulfills me
been nothing but supportive, exciting, thrilling and empowering
something I absolutely love
brings me unimaginable joy
It is my artistic outlet: my love, my happiness, my home.
have never felt more empowered or happy doing anything else
It is freeing, it is empowering, it is wonderful, it is how the world should be.


Oh by the way, it also pays a shiat load of money.  The moment she graduates she's going to quit, the only reason she continues to do it is to pay the bills.  Also, it brings her unimaginable joy?  You're buying that crap?  We have arrived at comedic levels of stupidity here.
 
2014-03-19 11:55:48 AM  

lennavan: spiderpaz: Not even close. I'm a software engineer. I'm just stating a fact that easy money is only easy because there's not a straight up competition for it since 99% of people would look at the risk/reward and decide it wasn't worth it or that it was immoral or shameful. They're not making that money because they're so outstanding at what they do that they're "out-competing" everyone else at it. They don't deserve admiration for what they do. Especially when they say outright that if they could afford to not do it, they wouldn't. This woman admitted that the only reason she's doing porn is because she was forced to do it financially.

Yes, she also says:

doing pornography fulfills me
My experience in porn has been nothing but supportive, exciting, thrilling and empowering
something I absolutely love
shooting pornography brings me unimaginable joy
It is my artistic outlet: my love, my happiness, my home.
have never felt more empowered or happy doing anything else
It is freeing, it is empowering, it is wonderful, it is how the world should be.

http://www.xojane.com/sex/duke-university-freshman-porn-star

So she is only doing this "wonderful, fulfilling, unimaginably joyous activity" because she is being forced to by Duke and the moment she graduates, she's going to quit her "love, happiness and home."  That's the story we are being sold.  And to question her is to be a slut shaming misogynist.


You got it.
 
2014-03-19 11:55:52 AM  

Clint_Torres: bluenovaman: The asshole who outed her should be expelled.

Haha, who the fark are you? This is a bizarre level of investment.


No, you stated you wish to physically assault this person. There's something wrong with you.
 
2014-03-19 11:57:34 AM  

Frank N Stein: MycroftHolmes: I agree with you above point that people who name drop about all the philosophy books that they have read in an effort to look smart are really just douches.

You might get the irony after a bit.

I mentioned Hobbes because I wanted to give the reader an idea of where my formal education of the subject ends, which is why I said I don't have a very good grasp on philosophy past his writings. "Hobbes" is just a marker to show where I am in uneducated philosophical territory, which is quite the opposite of an "effort to look smart"

Reading is fundamental.


Got it.  You mentioned a specific topic because you wanted to make sure the reader knew how educated you were on a topic.  You honestly see this as different?  You honestly do not see trying to have a shallow discussion on philosophy ion a Fark thread on porn as anything but narcissistic preening, but doubly amusing by the fact that you started off by condemning the same in someone else.

Think back, why was it important that you let someone know exactly how much you knew about philosophy, particularly in this forum.

I know you will rebut with some well constructed sophistry or smoke screen, but if you were honest with yourself, you would realize the truth.
 
2014-03-19 11:59:20 AM  

MycroftHolmes: And she is not the only porn star who has expressed these same emotions.


Yeah, and later they admit they were lying.

MycroftHolmes: I am not sure what your issue is that you find youself incapable of giving her the benefit of the doubt.


I don't understand how you can believe these two things simultaneously:

1) This is job brings her unimaginable joy and pays a great deal of money
2) The moment she doesn't have to do it anymore she's going to quit

Do you at least experience a feeling of discomfort holding those two things to be true?
 
2014-03-19 12:00:17 PM  

Cerebral Ballsy: I never slut-shamed her. I don't care about people's sex habits. You keep trying to peg me but you're way off, and I'm getting tired of it.


I'll get accused of White-Knighting for saying this, but it's crazy that people are getting all judgey with you because they think you're being judgey with her and they don't like it.
 
2014-03-19 12:00:48 PM  

MycroftHolmes: Frank N Stein: MycroftHolmes: I agree with you above point that people who name drop about all the philosophy books that they have read in an effort to look smart are really just douches.

You might get the irony after a bit.

I mentioned Hobbes because I wanted to give the reader an idea of where my formal education of the subject ends, which is why I said I don't have a very good grasp on philosophy past his writings. "Hobbes" is just a marker to show where I am in uneducated philosophical territory, which is quite the opposite of an "effort to look smart"

Reading is fundamental.

Got it.  You mentioned a specific topic because you wanted to make sure the reader knew how educated you were on a topic.  You honestly see this as different?  You honestly do not see trying to have a shallow discussion on philosophy ion a Fark thread on porn as anything but narcissistic preening, but doubly amusing by the fact that you started off by condemning the same in someone else.

Think back, why was it important that you let someone know exactly how much you knew about philosophy, particularly in this forum.

I know you will rebut with some well constructed sophistry or smoke screen, but if you were honest with yourself, you would realize the truth.


Not for nothing, but he's behind a handle and these threads are throw away pap meant to be forgotten. He's not stunting his philosophy creds for the world to see.
 
2014-03-19 12:00:55 PM  

StRalphTheLiar: Not to condone it, but how did she not see this coming? Was she not aware that many college students spend most of their waking hours watching porn online?


One would think that people who spend their time watching something would be okay with it and not threaten the person who makes it with death.  It's a rather bizarre reaction. "I know you're a porn star because I watch porn, so fark you, you need to die because you're a porn star"??

And really, it's her body and her life, and if she wants to do it (which it appears she does) good for her. All this publicity will probably make her more money than that degree would have, anyway.
 
2014-03-19 12:03:05 PM  

MycroftHolmes: Think back, why was it important that you let someone know exactly how much you knew about philosophy, particularly in this forum.


Implying.
I was responding to a poster who mentioned an existentialist course he took in college. I in turn responded that I've never taken such a course, and that maybe I should since I don't know the subject well. I don't know why you're getting so upset.
 
2014-03-19 12:03:09 PM  

WinoRhino: I'll get accused of White-Knighting for saying this


Why would you worry about such things? No need to hand wring over that.
 
2014-03-19 12:04:09 PM  
SquiggsIN:  When I want to fantasize about a woman smarter than me, my go-to is Danica McKeller..... ooooh Winnie you bad girl!

Mine is Elizabeth Warren..... oh baby talk MIDDLE CLASS to me.

/WHAT?
 
2014-03-19 12:04:13 PM  
Cerebral Ballsy So she is only doing this "wonderful, fulfilling, unimaginably joyous activity" because she is being forced to by Duke and the moment she graduates, she's going to quit her "love, happiness and home."  That's the story we are being sold.  And to question her is to be a slut shaming misogynist.

You got it.

Ah, so all her claims are just bullshiat to make herself appear normal to the rest of us?

kinda like...

I'm an atheist, I enjoy sex, I don't do drugs but I may have in the past, I have experience with this topic beyond yours which is probably limited to you jerking it to porno, I'm a liberal and I don't hate her but I will admit I pity her for the tough time she has ahead of her.


that's the story you're selling, huh?
 
2014-03-19 12:07:00 PM  

lennavan: elysive: You never quit a job or career you enjoyed because of better opportunities? I have but maybe that's just me.

Did you not read what I directly quoted from her?  What possible BETTER opportunity could there be than a job that:

 fulfills me
been nothing but supportive, exciting, thrilling and empowering
something I absolutely love
brings me unimaginable joy
It is my artistic outlet: my love, my happiness, my home.
have never felt more empowered or happy doing anything else
It is freeing, it is empowering, it is wonderful, it is how the world should be.

Oh by the way, it also pays a shiat load of money.  The moment she graduates she's going to quit, the only reason she continues to do it is to pay the bills.  Also, it brings her unimaginable joy?  You're buying that crap?  We have arrived at comedic levels of stupidity here.


Maybe the pay isnt steady or predictable (i heard Jason Bateman talking about those problems in entertaining yesterday in NPR). Maybe she can foresee a time when she's old and crusty and her directors/producers wont sign her. Maybe she finds intellectual pursuits equally fulfilling and wants a change. I gave up one good, fulfilling job because it was energy sucking and I saw a desk job (which paid a little less) as more sustainable.

But clearly this girl needs to answer to you regarding her apparent contradictions.
 
2014-03-19 12:09:28 PM  

doubled99: Ah, so all her claims are just bullshiat to make herself appear normal to the rest of us?


Yes because if you accept what she is saying as true that means it has to make sense to you that she will quit her dream job that brings her unimaginable joy the moment she can financially afford to.  That doesn't make any goddamn sense.

doubled99: kinda like...

I'm an atheist, I enjoy sex, I don't do drugs but I may have in the past, I have experience with this topic beyond yours which is probably limited to you jerking it to porno, I'm a liberal and I don't hate her but I will admit I pity her for the tough time she has ahead of her.


that's the story you're selling, huh?


There is nothing in that that doesn't make sense.  The difference is what Cerebral Ballsy posted can possibly be true whereas what Belle Knox is saying cannot possibly be true.
 
2014-03-19 12:09:34 PM  

lennavan: I don't understand how you can believe these two things simultaneously:

1) This is job brings her unimaginable joy and pays a great deal of money
2) The moment she doesn't have to do it anymore she's going to quit

Do you at least experience a feeling of discomfort holding those two things to be true?


Can I ask why you feel any emotions about this girl? She isnt forcing you, or your daughters, into a life of porn and stripping. Or is she? Damn.
 
2014-03-19 12:09:58 PM  

Clint_Torres: She may have accepted his apology, but I don't. What he did was immature and reprehensible. If anyone deserves to have garbage thrown on them, it's this guy.


Right. The person who reveals another person's dirty secret is the real "reprehensible" criminal.

Get a grip. People can rarely be trusted. Especially not casual, frat-boy acquaintances in college who wish they could have sex with you. Any person who puts their faith in someone with those credentials is the one lacking maturity about relationships.
 
2014-03-19 12:13:30 PM  

forgotmydamnusername: I first discovered what a "Belle Knox" is someplace else, I forget exactly where. In that article, it mentioned that she could have gone to Vanderbilt on scholarship, but opted for Duke instead, because it was more "spiritual". It adds a layer to the whole tragicomedy for me. This is a very young, foolish, naive person.


The more I learn about Belle Knox, the more I'm convinced that there is a severe long-term parenting failure in this girl's background. This girls seems not to have gotten much guidance from anyone in making the choices that led her to the point where she had to consider the porn career as an option to pay her tuition.
 
2014-03-19 12:14:52 PM  

WinoRhino: I'm not on facebook because of this very thing. And when I see pics like that one of Sasha Grey holding the philosophy book I get irked. I know part of the reason is because it reminds me that I did the same stupid shiat, but it doesn't mean that it isn't just as stupid when they do it. But I suppose what you say is true and I shouldn't judge them at all for it. After all, no one called me out and I am sure they wanted to. :)


This is incredibly amusing to me.

Mostly because I used to love to show-off about stuff I was proud of too, and now I realize how stupid I was. It's one of those cringe-worthy moments made more intense because I can identify with it so much.
 
2014-03-19 12:17:15 PM  
Considering all the comments here, how many of you guys (who think this is "empowering"/"great"/"because Jesus") would approve if it were your mother, sister or daughter performing in porn films? The only difference between this woman and a prostitute is that she gets paid more and has it filmed.

What does she do when she turns 40 other than do on the adult bookstore picture singing circuit?
 
2014-03-19 12:19:42 PM  
he difference is what Cerebral Ballsy posted can possibly be true whereas what Belle Knox is saying cannot possibly be true.


If you're not very intelligent, I guess.

I happen to love my job, but if I became extremely wealthy,and could retire to the islands, I probably would. In addition, some people are smart enough to realize that their likes and wants might actually change over time.
 
2014-03-19 12:21:34 PM  
Jealousy is an ugly thing.
 
2014-03-19 12:24:24 PM  

elysive: lennavan: I don't understand how you can believe these two things simultaneously:

1) This is job brings her unimaginable joy and pays a great deal of money
2) The moment she doesn't have to do it anymore she's going to quit

Do you at least experience a feeling of discomfort holding those two things to be true?

Can I ask why you feel any emotions about this girl? She isnt forcing you, or your daughters, into a life of porn and stripping. Or is she? Damn.


Well, this girl with national attention on her is telling the nation in published articles, girls included, that porn has an incorrect stigma about it and it brings her unimaginable joy.  If that's true, by all means more power to her for bringing the truth to light.  It's not true, she's full of shiat, she's only doing porn to pay the bills and she's going to quit the moment she can.

Can I ask why you're defending this girl?  She isn't going to sleep with you.  Or is she?  Damn.
 
2014-03-19 12:26:05 PM  

serpent_sky: One would think that people who spend their time watching something would be okay with it and not threaten the person who makes it with death.  It's a rather bizarre reaction


I think it might be too big of a leap to presume the people threatening her life are also the ones who watch the videos.
 
2014-03-19 12:26:42 PM  

lennavan: Can I ask why you're defending this girl? She isn't going to sleep with you. Or is she? Damn.


Because she has do no one any harm, while being threatened by idiots.  This applies to any person of any gender or age.
 
2014-03-19 12:27:15 PM  

Lee451: Considering all the comments here, how many of you guys (who think this is "empowering"/"great"/"because Jesus") would approve if it were your mother, sister or daughter performing in porn films? The only difference between this woman and a prostitute is that she gets paid more and has it filmed.

What does she do when she turns 40 other than do on the adult bookstore picture singing circuit?


I am a woman and I don't care who does it. As for your family member hypothetical, would I be forced to watch it or pay for it? Then, yea, I still dont care. I also believe that prostitution is unfairly stigmatized and should be legalized/regulated to protect the sex workers.

Even if the women and men involved in these industries are terribly farked up, broken people, that's really not the issue. Those people will always exist and find ways to make money. If you all really cared about those people, you would support more mental health programs and initiatives and you would stop creating demand for the sevices you so deplore.

People should be mentally free to walk away from those industries, but so long as there is demand (and you goddamn well know there will always be demand, even from men who disapprove of their female relatives going into the industries), someone will be willing to supply the services. Rather than pointing fingers and stigmatizing the providers, maybe do something productive to help them...mmmkay?
 
2014-03-19 12:27:33 PM  

doubled99: if I became extremely wealthy


This girl is going to quit the moment she graduates from Duke.  Not the moment she becomes extremely wealthy.

doubled99: could retire to the islands


This girl isn't going to quit when she can retire.  She's going to quit the moment she graduates from Duke so she can go into another profession.

doubled99: In addition, some people are smart enough to realize that their likes and wants might actually change over time.


This girl is telling us she would quit RIGHT NOW if Duke would simply give her financial aid.

Also, this job brings her unimaginable joy.
 
2014-03-19 12:28:18 PM  
I watched some of her work this morning.  She is young and in good shape.  Cute, but not "OMG!" cute.

The only thing I would say she needs to work on is to be more vocal.  She doesn't say much.  She needs to be a little more vocal and energetic.

The people attacking her are the ones who should have garbage thrown on them.  Hypocrites.
 
2014-03-19 12:28:54 PM  

Lee451: Considering all the comments here, how many of you guys (who think this is "empowering"/"great"/"because Jesus") would approve if it were your mother, sister or daughter performing in porn films? The only difference between this woman and a prostitute is that she gets paid more and has it filmed.

What does she do when she turns 40 other than do on the adult bookstore picture singing circuit?


So just because I wouldn't want my female relatives involved in the sex-industry means I can't argue for this woman's freedom of choice? She's an adult, beholden to no one but herself. No one on here is arguing she's a paragon of virtue and feminism, some of us just don't believe in judging others for their life choices. Live and let live, for farks sake.
 
2014-03-19 12:29:04 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Clint_Torres: bluenovaman: The asshole who outed her should be expelled.

Haha, who the fark are you? This is a bizarre level of investment.

No, you stated you wish to physically assault this person. There's something wrong with you.


I did?

Clint_Torres: Seriously, fark that guy. He should kill himself for what he did. Or at the very least feel really, really bad about it.

Clint_Torres: She may have accepted his apology, but I don't. What he did was immature and reprehensible. If anyone deserves to have garbage thrown on them, it's this guy.

Clint_Torres:
Who said I want to sleep with her?
...
So is defending that goober.
...
You have your opinions, I have mine. I'm just curious, why did this guy feel the need to brag about reveal his newfound knowledge to anyone? What did he think was going to happen? Is he not aware of the internet? He should have ended the conversation at "Are you Bella Knox?" "Oh cool. I'm a fan. I just wanted to say hi." and stroll away whistling.

What business is it of anyone, what job you do through school?


Clint_Torres: (thinking)

Nope...it's still with him.


Clint_Torres:
HotWingConspiracy: Again, bizarre level of investment.

Be sure to let us know when you take the trip to throw trash on a stranger.

I will.

 
2014-03-19 12:29:51 PM  
So Duke sucks and swallows.
 
2014-03-19 12:31:51 PM  

Cymbal: You ever thought about getting one of those 0.0 stickers for your car to balance out your past douchecanoe tendencies? ;)


I have one of those!!!  :)


(note:  I have never run anywhere.  I may run to escape a fire or something equally dire)


It's not on my car though.  I was going to, because I work with a guy who is what WhinoRhino WAS.  His car is littered with marathon stickers, triathlon stickers, this run, that run, and he will corner anyone available to crow about the run or bike ride he did last weekend.  But I wimped out and never put the passive agressive sticker on my car and parked next to him.  So it hangs on my fridge, a reminder that just because someone else is a douche, I don't need to be.
 
2014-03-19 12:32:27 PM  

Lee451: Considering all the comments here, how many of you guys (who think this is "empowering"/"great"/"because Jesus") would approve if it were your mother, sister or daughter performing in porn films? The only difference between this woman and a prostitute is that she gets paid more and has it filmed.

What does she do when she turns 40 other than do on the adult bookstore picture singing circuit?


Well, for one thing, I probably wouldn't be discussing matters like that with them, for awkward reasons.

On another point, they have skills in other departments, so if they wanted to do porn of their own free will, that's their decision. I'm not going to stop them. If it doesn't work out, they have options.

Which is kind of the point here. People are getting on Knox for being naive and setting herself up for a fall, without realizing that she was on the way to having a backup plan before she didn't give the time of day to some random asshole who wouldn't be fit to be Fred Phelps' colostomy bag. Now she's got to put her backup plans on hold and commit to porn full-time because of that random asshole and all the other pricks jumping to his defense.
 
2014-03-19 12:34:10 PM  

elysive: lennavan: I don't understand how you can believe these two things simultaneously:

1) This is job brings her unimaginable joy and pays a great deal of money
2) The moment she doesn't have to do it anymore she's going to quit

Do you at least experience a feeling of discomfort holding those two things to be true?

Can I ask why you feel any emotions about this girl? She isnt forcing you, or your daughters, into a life of porn and stripping. Or is she? Damn.


A potentially more appropriate term may be "cognitive dissonance."

You can experience that when reading those two sentences without being emotionally invested in the human being they reference.
 
2014-03-19 12:34:27 PM  

ikanreed: Because she has do no one any harm


You mean, other than lying to a nation full of young girls saying that being choked and spit on during porn shoots brings her unimaginable joy?
  

elysive: Maybe the pay isnt steady or predictable (i heard Jason Bateman talking about those problems in entertaining yesterday in NPR). Maybe she can foresee a time when she's old and crusty and her directors/producers wont sign her. Maybe she finds intellectual pursuits equally fulfilling and wants a change. I gave up one good, fulfilling job because it was energy sucking and I saw a desk job (which paid a little less) as more sustainable.


She's going to quit her job the MOMENT she graduates.  She would quit it RIGHT NOW if Duke would only give her financial aid.  But she's stripping in NYC right now because it empowers here and brings her unimaginable joy.  But she'd quit RIGHT NOW if Duke offered her financial aid.  Vanderbilt offered her a full ride (snicker).  But Duke is forcing her to do porn.  But she loves doing porn and it brings her fulfillment and unimaginable joy.  But she'll quit if Duke offers her financial aid.

I don't think you understand what unimaginable joy means.  This girl literally cannot imagine a more joyous career.  But she'll quit the moment she can.  That makes sense to you, somehow.
 
2014-03-19 12:36:35 PM  

Pangea: Clint_Torres: She may have accepted his apology, but I don't. What he did was immature and reprehensible. If anyone deserves to have garbage thrown on them, it's this guy.

Right. The person who reveals another person's dirty secret is the real "reprehensible" criminal.

Get a grip. People can rarely be trusted. Especially not casual, frat-boy acquaintances in college who wish they could have sex with you. Any person who puts their faith in someone with those credentials is the one lacking maturity about relationships.


He approached her about the whole thing. And then he blabbed about to some frat-holes. This wasn't a dating scenario or confessions to a friend. AFAIK.
 
2014-03-19 12:36:43 PM  

lennavan: elysive: lennavan: I don't understand how you can believe these two things simultaneously:

1) This is job brings her unimaginable joy and pays a great deal of money
2) The moment she doesn't have to do it anymore she's going to quit

Do you at least experience a feeling of discomfort holding those two things to be true?

Can I ask why you feel any emotions about this girl? She isnt forcing you, or your daughters, into a life of porn and stripping. Or is she? Damn.

Well, this girl with national attention on her is telling the nation in published articles, girls included, that porn has an incorrect stigma about it and it brings her unimaginable joy.  If that's true, by all means more power to her for bringing the truth to light.  It's not true, she's full of shiat, she's only doing porn to pay the bills and she's going to quit the moment she can.

Can I ask why you're defending this girl?  She isn't going to sleep with you.  Or is she?  Damn.


I'm a woman and I never bothered looking at her links. Her choice of sexual partners isnt really my concern...but apparently it's yours?

I'm sorry if America's children are so impressionable that they believe and try to emulate everything they read (lol, what am I saying, today's children cant read!). Go on villifying someone you dont know and calling them a liar. Your behavior reflects more on you than her.

I've never considered doing porn, though I think people should be able to do it without hypocritical ninnies running their mouths like they know shiat. For good or bad I suspect people like you are increasing the national attention she's getting.This girl may be lying or she may truly believe what she's saying. It's neither my business nor concern and doesnt affect my life in the least (well except with these fun Fark threads). :)
 
2014-03-19 12:38:15 PM  

Lee451: Considering all the comments here, how many of you guys (who think this is "empowering"/"great"/"because Jesus") would approve if it were your mother, sister or daughter performing in porn films? The only difference between this woman and a prostitute is that she gets paid more and has it filmed.

What does she do when she turns 40 other than do on the adult bookstore picture singing circuit?


There are a number of former female porn stars who went into production, distribution, and talent management in the business. Some of the particularly savvy ones actually are quite successful at it.

If anyone seems a likely candidate for being successful in that endeavor, it's a woman who was smart enough to get accepted at a reasonably prestigious school (even if Duke Sux)
 
2014-03-19 12:42:06 PM  

lennavan: I don't think you understand what unimaginable joy means. This girl literally cannot imagine a more joyous career. But she'll quit the moment she can. That makes sense to you, somehow.


Luckily we have you here to manslplain it for all of us
 
2014-03-19 12:42:54 PM  

elysive: I'm a woman and I never bothered looking at her links. Her choice of sexual partners isnt really my concern...but apparently it's yours?


Nope.  What she sells to the public in amongst other things, nationally syndicated TV shows is.  Is it alright with you if I criticize what gets broadcast nationally on public airwaves?  Or is that too intrusive of me?

elysive: though I think people should be able to do it without hypocritical ninnies running their mouths like they know shiat.


This is funny because this is exactly what I'm saying.  This girl is a hypocritical, lying ninny running her mouth like she knows shiat.  People should do porn going into it knowing the realities of it.  Brings her unimaginable joy, get out of here with that shiat.
 
2014-03-19 12:44:14 PM  

Pangea: elysive: lennavan: I don't understand how you can believe these two things simultaneously:

1) This is job brings her unimaginable joy and pays a great deal of money
2) The moment she doesn't have to do it anymore she's going to quit

Do you at least experience a feeling of discomfort holding those two things to be true?

Can I ask why you feel any emotions about this girl? She isnt forcing you, or your daughters, into a life of porn and stripping. Or is she? Damn.

A potentially more appropriate term may be "cognitive dissonance."

You can experience that when reading those two sentences without being emotionally invested in the human being they reference.


I understand cognitive dissonance, but this was a response to someone who has been arguing passionately in this thread that the girl is in the wrong. Wrong wrong wrong about everything.

She may be lying through her teeth, but why does it matter? I think the larger and more interesting issue is that porn watching assholes would threaten someone due to their involvement in porn.

Yay, America. Proud home of the cognitively dissonant.
 
2014-03-19 12:45:46 PM  
She's going to quit her job the MOMENT she graduates.  She would quit it RIGHT NOW if Duke would only give her financial aid.  But she's stripping in NYC right now because it empowers here and brings her unimaginable joy.  But she'd quit RIGHT NOW if Duke offered her financial aid.  Vanderbilt offered her a full ride (snicker).  But Duke is forcing her to do porn.  But she loves doing porn and it brings her fulfillment and unimaginable joy.  But she'll quit if Duke offers her financial aid.
I don't think you understand what unimaginable joy means.  This girl literally cannot imagine a more joyous career.  But she'll quit the moment she can.  That makes sense to you, somehow.


Why are you so fixated on this triviality? jesus christ, go rub one out, weirdo
 
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