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2014-03-19 10:36:02 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Clint_Torres: Knox is putting her money where her mouth is, actually defending the student who outed her porn persona on social media.
"It's not acceptable that he's being harassed. I've actually released kind of a plea for my fans to stop harassing him," she said. "He's a good person who made a mistake. He apologized for it, at the end of the day it's between me and him."

Maybe...but he outed you and made your personal life public. And then he was outed. So whatever happens after that is fair game.

Seriously, fark that guy. He should kill himself for what he did. Or at the very least feel really, really bad about it.

She said he apologized and she apparently accepted it, what else are you looking for?


Well, she's pretty much having her entire life turned upside down.  Why not him?

It would certainly be nice to see a follow-up story where that jock dickhead can't get or hold any kind of a job that requires even the slightest inkling of trust.
 
2014-03-19 10:38:20 AM  

kroonermanblack: Actually my point was that, stigma aside, porn actors are simply actors, people making money with their bodies.


Heh, I loved that time Sasha Grey was on Tyra Banx's talk show and just PULVERIZED her stupid ass with basically that comment.  "Don't you feel bad about selling your body this way blah blah."  "Uh... did you when you were selling your body?" *Tyra looks like she got her face slapped off of her head*
 
2014-03-19 10:38:23 AM  

Clutch2013: HotWingConspiracy: Clint_Torres: Knox is putting her money where her mouth is, actually defending the student who outed her porn persona on social media.
"It's not acceptable that he's being harassed. I've actually released kind of a plea for my fans to stop harassing him," she said. "He's a good person who made a mistake. He apologized for it, at the end of the day it's between me and him."

Maybe...but he outed you and made your personal life public. And then he was outed. So whatever happens after that is fair game.

Seriously, fark that guy. He should kill himself for what he did. Or at the very least feel really, really bad about it.

She said he apologized and she apparently accepted it, what else are you looking for?

Well, she's pretty much having her entire life turned upside down.


Is she? She's parlaying this in to stripping gigs in NYC where the money is at.

 Why not him?

"He's a good person who made a mistake. He apologized for it, at the end of the day it's between me and him." 

It would certainly be nice to see a follow-up story where that jock dickhead can't get or hold any kind of a job that requires even the slightest inkling of trust.

That dude was no jock. Or at least didn't appear to be. And he'll be just fine in the job market.
 
2014-03-19 10:40:31 AM  

Frank N Stein: Rapmaster2000: There's a weird, but non insignificant subset of dudes who get their panties in a twist over "sluts" and want to get them by outing their information, threatening them, etc.  There used to be more here, but reddit has cornered that market.

I don't like to use the term "slut-shaming" in general, but regardless that's not what this is.  It's jealousy that she's giving it to everyone but them.  It's trying to get back at her for making them feel that they're not good enough (because they know they aren't good enough).

I'm inclined to agree with you on this. I mean, if you don't like sluts than don't date one. It's something that literally does not (or should not) matter in your life. It kind of baffles me.


You got guys on Fark who throw the whore label at a female for any excuse, even just for screwing once.
 
2014-03-19 10:40:49 AM  
Call me a cynic but I think the whole outing of herself was staged. She has made an absolute name for herself as a star, and her outing not only gave he tons of publicity but it certifies her as a legitimate college girl for those who thrive with that niche. Maybe it got a little out of her control, but I'm convinced this whole damn thing was set up from stage 1.
 
2014-03-19 10:41:03 AM  

Cerebral Ballsy: Marcus Aurelius: A self reliant woman frightens many Americans.  They just lose their shiat at the very thought of it.  Because they're pussies.

She's a sex addict with daddy issues. Please do not buy into her "New Feminism" bullshiat.

Also as someone who went right from a sheltered home in the 'burbs to sucking cox I think she's more "dependent" than "independent".

I don't wish her any ill will, I just despise it when people lie to themselves because they can't face the truth.


Are you saying this because you know something about her as an individual? Or are you extrapolating from what you know of her background?
 
2014-03-19 10:41:29 AM  

kroonermanblack:  Actually my point was that, stigma aside, porn actors are simply actors, people making money with their bodies.

So how do you feel about people doing day labor, or other non skilled labor? I say non skilled so is can exclude electricians, plumbers, etc. how about actors?

Personally I don't really care. There's a lot of money to be made in the sex industry, so I don't see it much differently than going off to work in Afghanistan or offshore etc to make a huge amount of money and party hard while you are young.


I'm not against doing porn.  I love porn.  I'm against thinking of porn stars as great shining beacons of self-reliance and I think this girl is full of shiat.  Let's not pretend the porn industry is all super happy fun time.  See for instance:

Cymbal: Here's a thought. Maybe strippers and sex-workers wouldn't need to be drunk and/or high all the time if they were treated like any other human being trying to make it in the world.


Savanna Samson was interviewed by ABC a few years back and she said she had to get high just to make it through some of the scenes she had to do (multiple guys at the same time, choking, hitting, etc).  So I don't think they get high because other people look down on them.
 
2014-03-19 10:42:20 AM  

misanthropologist: Cerebral Ballsy: b0rscht: Women's Studies major. I'm speechless.

Nothing says "I came here to find a husband" like a worthless major.

Tell us about your worthy major and how it was a very serious endeavor that left you no time for dating, which resulted in your single, celibate, mom's basement existence?


I'd rather tell you about my major that's been nothing but fun, filled with travel and excitement as a self-employed independent woman.

I met several women in college who actually used that phrase. I didn't make it up.

I'd like to know what kind of jobs are available out the for Women's Study majors, because I really have no clue.
 
2014-03-19 10:42:52 AM  

Cymbal: Rapmaster2000: There's a weird, but non insignificant subset of dudes who get their panties in a twist over "sluts" and want to get them by outing their information, threatening them, etc.  There used to be more here, but reddit has cornered that market.

I don't like to use the term "slut-shaming" in general, but regardless that's not what this is.  It's jealousy that she's giving it to everyone but them.  It's trying to get back at her for making them feel that they're not good enough (because they know they aren't good enough).

This is true, but the majority of slut-shaming and the damage from it comes from other chicks. Some women want to keep pussy as scarce a resource as possible, so they can exert more control over their men. They see sluts as direct threats to the value of their prized resource.


So most of the farkers in this thread calling her a slut are women?
 
2014-03-19 10:43:26 AM  

ScouserDuck: Call me a cynic but I think the whole outing of herself was staged. She has made an absolute name for herself as a star, and her outing not only gave he tons of publicity but it certifies her as a legitimate college girl for those who thrive with that niche. Maybe it got a little out of her control, but I'm convinced this whole damn thing was set up from stage 1.


If I learned anything in this thread, it's that doesn't make you a cynic, that makes you a woman hating slut shamer who should get off his high horse about judging porn stars.
 
2014-03-19 10:43:26 AM  

spiderpaz: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: I've never understood what the problem with porn is. Lots of women can't give a decent hummer for love or money, why shouldn't a woman who can and is willing to produce a product people want be able to make a living at it?

You must not have seen her porn ... she's not talented.  She just lays there getting farked.  Female porn stars aren't making money because they're outstanding ... they make money because they are willing to do things that other people would be too ashamed to do.  She completely entitled to her money, and doesn't deserve to be harassed - but I would say the same thing about a prostitute (and she is a prostitute).  There's nothing wrong with what she's doing, but I have a lot more respect for someone putting themselves through school with a real job that pays shiatty wages than I do for someone that takes the route of drug dealing or prostituting to do the same.


Whatever makes you feel good, man. But I'm 40 K in the hole for my mfa, she's got no debt at all and likely won't incur any whatever school she goes to. If you would be so kind as to sell your moral high ground and contribute some funds to my student loan debt it'd be mighty generous of you.
 
2014-03-19 10:43:40 AM  

fluffy2097: spiderpaz: I have a lot more respect for someone putting themselves through school with a real job that pays shiatty wages than I do for someone that takes the route of drug dealing or prostituting to do the same.

Why work harder, when you can have a life instead?



It's a trade off.  It's a high risk high payoff decision.  If you want to get a lot of money quickly, you can make the decision to have sex for money or to break the law and sell drugs.  That doesn't make you more talented, and deserving of praise.  You're making a lot of money because there aren't that many people willing to do it because of the risks involved.  You could die, go to jail, or be marginalized the rest of your life.  People who end up doing these sorts of things tend to be people who find themselves in a tough spot, and just say fark it, and decide to risk it.  That doesn't necessarily make them awful people ... they just gave in to the temptation of easy money and ignored the potential downside.  If these things weren't true there would be a lot more of you farkers making a living selling drugs and having sex for money instead of taking the safe route working 8 hours a day in your cubicle.
 
2014-03-19 10:43:43 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Clutch2013: HotWingConspiracy: Clint_Torres: Knox is putting her money where her mouth is, actually defending the student who outed her porn persona on social media.
"It's not acceptable that he's being harassed. I've actually released kind of a plea for my fans to stop harassing him," she said. "He's a good person who made a mistake. He apologized for it, at the end of the day it's between me and him."

Maybe...but he outed you and made your personal life public. And then he was outed. So whatever happens after that is fair game.

Seriously, fark that guy. He should kill himself for what he did. Or at the very least feel really, really bad about it.

She said he apologized and she apparently accepted it, what else are you looking for?

Well, she's pretty much having her entire life turned upside down.

Is she? She's parlaying this in to stripping gigs in NYC where the money is at.

 Why not him?

"He's a good person who made a mistake. He apologized for it, at the end of the day it's between me and him."
It would certainly be nice to see a follow-up story where that jock dickhead can't get or hold any kind of a job that requires even the slightest inkling of trust.

That dude was no jock. Or at least didn't appear to be. And he'll be just fine in the job market.


Yeah, he's got a great future writing listicles for BuzzFeed for $25K/year.
 
2014-03-19 10:44:18 AM  

lennavan: Savanna Samson was interviewed by ABC a few years back and she said she had to get high just to make it through some of the scenes she had to do (multiple guys at the same time, choking, hitting, etc). So I don't think they get high because other people look down on them.


I bet that was a puerile thrill for you.
 
2014-03-19 10:44:39 AM  

Cerebral Ballsy: I'd like to know what kind of jobs are available out the for Women's Study majors, because I really have no clue.


An undergrad degree to pair up with, say, an MSW and go into counseling.
 
2014-03-19 10:44:40 AM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: spiderpaz: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: I've never understood what the problem with porn is. Lots of women can't give a decent hummer for love or money, why shouldn't a woman who can and is willing to produce a product people want be able to make a living at it?

You must not have seen her porn ... she's not talented.  She just lays there getting farked.  Female porn stars aren't making money because they're outstanding ... they make money because they are willing to do things that other people would be too ashamed to do.  She completely entitled to her money, and doesn't deserve to be harassed - but I would say the same thing about a prostitute (and she is a prostitute).  There's nothing wrong with what she's doing, but I have a lot more respect for someone putting themselves through school with a real job that pays shiatty wages than I do for someone that takes the route of drug dealing or prostituting to do the same.

Whatever makes you feel good, man. But I'm 40 K in the hole for my mfa, she's got no debt at all and likely won't incur any whatever school she goes to. If you would be so kind as to sell your moral high ground and contribute some funds to my student loan debt it'd be mighty generous of you.


Don't be a pussy - go get some crack and hit up the high schools so you can be a hero too.
 
2014-03-19 10:44:47 AM  

Cerebral Ballsy: I'd like to know what kind of jobs are available out the for Women's Study majors, because I really have no clue.


Teacher for women's studies, and choke porn.
 
2014-03-19 10:46:06 AM  

Cymbal: Cerebral Ballsy: Cymbal: Rapmaster2000: There's a weird, but non insignificant subset of dudes who get their panties in a twist over "sluts" and want to get them by outing their information, threatening them, etc.  There used to be more here, but reddit has cornered that market.

I don't like to use the term "slut-shaming" in general, but regardless that's not what this is.  It's jealousy that she's giving it to everyone but them.  It's trying to get back at her for making them feel that they're not good enough (because they know they aren't good enough).

This is true, but the majority of slut-shaming and the damage from it comes from other chicks. Some women want to keep pussy as scarce a resource as possible, so they can exert more control over their men. They see sluts as direct threats to the value of their prized resource.

"Prized resource"? Don't put the pussy on a pedestal.

I have no problem with porn stars. I have a problem with people who don't deal with reality. She's going to crash, and hard.

You'd like that wouldn't you? Make you feel better about all your play-it-safe life choices?


I am the farthest from "play-it-safe" in this thread, trust me. I simply have experience in this area. This industry is filled with women who have been sexually abused and don't know where to turn for help. She's a sex addict, not a beacon for women's independence. I've only heard her story 100 times from women just like her. Some of them eventually clean up, most don't.
 
2014-03-19 10:46:17 AM  
I don't wish her any ill will, I just despise it when people lie to themselves because they can't face the truth.

so you're a misanthrope, then? or just another massive hypocrite
 
2014-03-19 10:46:23 AM  

lennavan: kroonermanblack:  Actually my point was that, stigma aside, porn actors are simply actors, people making money with their bodies.

So how do you feel about people doing day labor, or other non skilled labor? I say non skilled so is can exclude electricians, plumbers, etc. how about actors?

Personally I don't really care. There's a lot of money to be made in the sex industry, so I don't see it much differently than going off to work in Afghanistan or offshore etc to make a huge amount of money and party hard while you are young.

I'm not against doing porn.  I love porn.  I'm against thinking of porn stars as great shining beacons of self-reliance and I think this girl is full of shiat.  Let's not pretend the porn industry is all super happy fun time.  See for instance:

Cymbal: Here's a thought. Maybe strippers and sex-workers wouldn't need to be drunk and/or high all the time if they were treated like any other human being trying to make it in the world.

Savanna Samson was interviewed by ABC a few years back and she said she had to get high just to make it through some of the scenes she had to do (multiple guys at the same time, choking, hitting, etc).  So I don't think they get high because other people look down on them.


Care to link to that?  Because I remember them interviewing Belladonna, and her not being very happy with how that turned out.  So much so, in fact, that when they contacted her for a followup, she declined.
 
2014-03-19 10:46:29 AM  

Latinwolf: Cymbal: Rapmaster2000: There's a weird, but non insignificant subset of dudes who get their panties in a twist over "sluts" and want to get them by outing their information, threatening them, etc.  There used to be more here, but reddit has cornered that market.

I don't like to use the term "slut-shaming" in general, but regardless that's not what this is.  It's jealousy that she's giving it to everyone but them.  It's trying to get back at her for making them feel that they're not good enough (because they know they aren't good enough).

This is true, but the majority of slut-shaming and the damage from it comes from other chicks. Some women want to keep pussy as scarce a resource as possible, so they can exert more control over their men. They see sluts as direct threats to the value of their prized resource.

So most of the farkers in this thread calling her a slut are women?


Nobody has called her a slut in this thread.
 
2014-03-19 10:46:32 AM  

ScouserDuck: Call me a cynic but I think the whole outing of herself was staged. She has made an absolute name for herself as a star, and her outing not only gave he tons of publicity but it certifies her as a legitimate college girl for those who thrive with that niche. Maybe it got a little out of her control, but I'm convinced this whole damn thing was set up from stage 1.


Yeah, this feels like the sort of stunt a feminist libertarian would pull off. It's just too convenient and an easy way for a middling to average looks porn newb to make a name for herself amongst the sea of girls who look just like her and disappear after a few years.
 
2014-03-19 10:46:49 AM  

lennavan: kroonermanblack:  Actually my point was that, stigma aside, porn actors are simply actors, people making money with their bodies.

So how do you feel about people doing day labor, or other non skilled labor? I say non skilled so is can exclude electricians, plumbers, etc. how about actors?

Personally I don't really care. There's a lot of money to be made in the sex industry, so I don't see it much differently than going off to work in Afghanistan or offshore etc to make a huge amount of money and party hard while you are young.

I'm not against doing porn.  I love porn.  I'm against thinking of porn stars as great shining beacons of self-reliance and I think this girl is full of shiat.  Let's not pretend the porn industry is all super happy fun time.  See for instance:

Cymbal: Here's a thought. Maybe strippers and sex-workers wouldn't need to be drunk and/or high all the time if they were treated like any other human being trying to make it in the world.

Savanna Samson was interviewed by ABC a few years back and she said she had to get high just to make it through some of the scenes she had to do (multiple guys at the same time, choking, hitting, etc).  So I don't think they get high because other people look down on them.


Or maybe she was high and drunk all the time BEFORE she got into porn, and porn is one of the few occupations that will pay a woman who is constantly drunk and high?
 
2014-03-19 10:46:54 AM  

Frank N Stein: [31.media.tumblr.com image 360x480]

And I'm sure this woman is still better than Sasha Grey. Seriously, who tries to impress people with a selfie of you and your philosophy book about farking existentialism (of all things). Name drop harder, and let me know when you get through the first 10 pages.


i586.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-19 10:48:43 AM  

Latinwolf: Cymbal: Rapmaster2000: There's a weird, but non insignificant subset of dudes who get their panties in a twist over "sluts" and want to get them by outing their information, threatening them, etc.  There used to be more here, but reddit has cornered that market.

I don't like to use the term "slut-shaming" in general, but regardless that's not what this is.  It's jealousy that she's giving it to everyone but them.  It's trying to get back at her for making them feel that they're not good enough (because they know they aren't good enough).

This is true, but the majority of slut-shaming and the damage from it comes from other chicks. Some women want to keep pussy as scarce a resource as possible, so they can exert more control over their men. They see sluts as direct threats to the value of their prized resource.

So most of the farkers in this thread calling her a slut are women?


Possibly. I know Cerebral Ballsy gets her panties twisted over her.
 
2014-03-19 10:49:21 AM  

lockers: The real problem with her chosen way of going through school is that it translates to stigma in her career. Granted womens studies won't help either, but this will follow her for the rest of her life. My guess is she will burn out in the porn scene and be flipping burgers in 10 years.


Yep. While it would be nice if this stigma didn't exist, it does, and is likely to be a problem. Though with a women's studies background maybe she could make a difference as a crusader for the societal acceptance of retired sex workers. At least there's probably a book deal to be had there.
 
2014-03-19 10:49:26 AM  

hubiestubert: Sgt Otter: Marcus Aurelius: A self reliant woman frightens many Americans.  They just lose their shiat at the very thought of it.  Because they're pussies.

The dude who originally outed her looked like a Lamda Lamda Lamda from "Revenge of the Nerds."  The owner of a particularly vile porn site also recognized his name as a subscriber.

...that horrible moment when he realized that there was STILL absolutely no way that she'd sleep with him...

How she makes her money, I don't care. It's legal, she's a consenting adult, and in all honesty, I'd rather see prostitution legalized just to get the pimps out of the game, to see men and women engaged in the trade get some legal protection, as well the chance to see them organized--not to mention get the police and others out of the sex trade directly or indirectly with corruption and bribes paid to them--and paying their taxes. The sex industry is huge, and the revenue is just sort of hidden away and laundered and it only makes money for folks who are less than scrupulous to begin with, so let's bring it out into the light, and stop the faux moralizing about it, when every damn town in the nation has its prostitutes. Legalize it already, and get these folks some decent medical care, real protection that doesn't involve pimps, and stringing folks out on drugs to keep them compliant.

As for the "strong woman" motif: I don't care. It's none of my damn business. Too gottverdammt Nosey Nellies in the world as it is.

What kills me about this whole thing is this: folks get themselves all up on a high horse about porn, yet don't seem to be all that incensed about viewing the stuff. If you're watching porn, and you're disgusted at the thought of this woman: congrats, you're part of the damn problem. It's better to be the reason that it's profitable, than getting paid. You'd rather be the entire reason for an industry, make demands upon it, but then look down on the folks who make fodder for your evening wank. Get over it. It's po ...


Nothing more to say here. Nice work.
 
2014-03-19 10:50:04 AM  
She's smart enough to get into Duke. She's paying her own way.

What she does for a living doesn't affect the people around her (despite their overwrought concerns).

The people making threats should be prosecuted as criminals, and the fellow who outed her should forever be known as a misogynistic busy body who is immune to the irony of hating the producers of porn when he's an epic consumer of porn.
 
2014-03-19 10:50:11 AM  

lennavan: ScouserDuck: Call me a cynic but I think the whole outing of herself was staged. She has made an absolute name for herself as a star, and her outing not only gave he tons of publicity but it certifies her as a legitimate college girl for those who thrive with that niche. Maybe it got a little out of her control, but I'm convinced this whole damn thing was set up from stage 1.

If I learned anything in this thread, it's that doesn't make you a cynic, that makes you a woman hating slut shamer who should get off his high horse about judging porn stars.


But what I said doesn't pass any judgement on her doing porn or her character whatsoever. For all you know I could think that it was a brilliant marketing scheme to separate herself from the rest.
 
2014-03-19 10:50:19 AM  

spiderpaz: Nemo's Brother: Marcus Aurelius: A self reliant woman frightens many Americans.  They just lose their shiat at the very thought of it.  Because they're pussies.

This isn't really a feminist issue, but nice try. This is overly judgmental assholes can't mind their own business. It bothers them that she engages in a profession that they find beneath them and that she isn't repentant about it.

According to Knox, most of the threats and harassment is coming from female students.  But it's fun to watch people try to spin this as men attacking women somehow.


Because that never happens on Fark right?
 
2014-03-19 10:52:14 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: A self reliant woman frightens many Americans.  They just lose their shiat at the very thought of it.  Because they're pussies.


This; every time Republicans trot out Palin or Bachmann, I keep chucking at them because they can't see someone's been pulling their strings for years.
 
2014-03-19 10:53:10 AM  

lockers: ikanreed: Okay, we've found a threshold of slut-hating that fark won't defend.  That's nice.

lennavan: And there's nothing more self reliant than a woman using her pussy to pay the bills

It's odd when the politics tab has less counterpoint than main. Maybe you have an opposing view.


Lennavan is just always wrong.  I'd be more worried if he were right about something.
 
2014-03-19 10:53:53 AM  

WinoRhino: So why the secret identity? Why the fear of what other people would think? If you're doing this in the shadows are you really doing anything to help unburden anything at all?


(In best Robin Williams voice) "Why did you sneak around and fark two men at the same time? Do things only a handful of depraved sex addicts would do and know the difference between? Because, I don't see a lot of honor in that."


tl;dr:  She's an immature attention whore  whose opinions and philosophies are less than half-baked.
yes, she is 19.
 
2014-03-19 10:54:18 AM  

WinoRhino: Pangea: Surely an attractive woman who is comfortable with her sexuality can't also comprehend philosophy.

Most don't try to use it as a prop to scream as loud as they can to the world, "TAKE ME SERIOUSLY!! I'M SMART!"


Have you ever been on Facebook? You just summed up what about 80% of people do on that site.

I don't judge Sasha Gray any more harshly for it. Just my $0.02 obviously.
 
2014-03-19 10:54:19 AM  

Clutch2013: lennavan: kroonermanblack:  Actually my point was that, stigma aside, porn actors are simply actors, people making money with their bodies.

So how do you feel about people doing day labor, or other non skilled labor? I say non skilled so is can exclude electricians, plumbers, etc. how about actors?

Personally I don't really care. There's a lot of money to be made in the sex industry, so I don't see it much differently than going off to work in Afghanistan or offshore etc to make a huge amount of money and party hard while you are young.

I'm not against doing porn.  I love porn.  I'm against thinking of porn stars as great shining beacons of self-reliance and I think this girl is full of shiat.  Let's not pretend the porn industry is all super happy fun time.  See for instance:

Cymbal: Here's a thought. Maybe strippers and sex-workers wouldn't need to be drunk and/or high all the time if they were treated like any other human being trying to make it in the world.

Savanna Samson was interviewed by ABC a few years back and she said she had to get high just to make it through some of the scenes she had to do (multiple guys at the same time, choking, hitting, etc).  So I don't think they get high because other people look down on them.

Care to link to that?  Because I remember them interviewing Belladonna, and her not being very happy with how that turned out.  So much so, in fact, that when they contacted her for a followup, she declined.


Well, I did give you enough information to google it and find it yourself.  The videos are still online.

Savanna Samson then discussed how tough it is to face all these moral dilemmas with her 10 year old son, Luchino. She admits to being in a drug-induced state during all her sex scenes

http://www.xtrememagazine.com/2012/04/savanna-samson-on-2020-abc-new s/

If you want better than that, you'll have to watch the videos because I don't see a transcript after 30 seconds of googling it.
 
2014-03-19 10:55:28 AM  

spiderpaz: fluffy2097: spiderpaz: I have a lot more respect for someone putting themselves through school with a real job that pays shiatty wages than I do for someone that takes the route of drug dealing or prostituting to do the same.

Why work harder, when you can have a life instead?


It's a trade off.  It's a high risk high payoff decision.  If you want to get a lot of money quickly, you can make the decision to have sex for money or to break the law and sell drugs.  That doesn't make you more talented, and deserving of praise.  You're making a lot of money because there aren't that many people willing to do it because of the risks involved.  You could die, go to jail, or be marginalized the rest of your life.  People who end up doing these sorts of things tend to be people who find themselves in a tough spot, and just say fark it, and decide to risk it.  That doesn't necessarily make them awful people ... they just gave in to the temptation of easy money and ignored the potential downside.  If these things weren't true there would be a lot more of you farkers making a living selling drugs and having sex for money instead of taking the safe route working 8 hours a day in your cubicle.


Your amoral attitude about how you make your money doesn't mean that I have one. There are people who don't sell drugs because...drugs are bad, Mmmkay? There are people who don't sell pussy for money because they don't believe in premarital sex or sex outside of marriage. You have no idea why people choose the path that they choose. You just thought it would make you look edgy to say that eveyrone is a cubicle-dweller, thereby insinuating that you're one of the people in the game. Stop fakin'. You ain't about that life.
 
2014-03-19 10:56:09 AM  

Cymbal: Cerebral Ballsy: Fissile: Her mother is Indian, of the subcontinental variety.  Indian men, who watch loads of online porn, get totally freaked from Indian woman they perceive as "loose".   I'm guessing that's where the death threats are probably coming from.

As for the slut shaming from everyone else, I really don't get it.   I had a friend who was the IT guy at a place I used to work.  Years ago, while he was living in Florida, he was approached by some guys who were producing porn vids.   The porn producers hired my friend to design a porn website for this new intrawebz thingy.

My IT friend became very knowledgeable about the porn biz, and the kind of girls who do porn.  The stereotypes about porn chicks are true....most are drug addicts, alcoholics,  have psychological problems or a combination of all of the above.   It's my understanding that this girl likes to cut on herself.

This girl's life is a train wreck in motion, it's disgusting how so many people are feeding off of this.

For 7 years I dated a guy whose family owned strip bars. I grew up in a Catholic family in rural Florida. It was nothing short of culture shock when my BF went to work for the family bars handling the books.

The women were exactly as you described. I saw fights over who stole whose cocaine from their locker. Every day the girls were trashed at work.. Some of them looked like zombies. I learned a lot about women's studies and so will this young lady.

I went on a double date with my BF and his father and his father's stripper GF. They started talking business and complaining that the girls were always drunk or high, a situation the owners tolerated. His dad made a comment like "I just don't understand why they can't be sober when they work". And I said "because they are trying to forget who they are and where they are."

I knew two people in that business who weren't constantly farked up.. My BF's father's GF, and a chick I met in college. Everyone else was perpetually wasted and their lives were modern tragedies.

Slut-shaming is a helluva drug.

Here's a thought. Maybe strippers and sex-workers wouldn't need to be drunk and/or high all the time if they were treated like any other human being trying to make it in the world.


They're there because they suffered sexual abuse earlier in life. They are acting out past abuse because it is familiar. Re-enacting past abuse is not a solution so they drug themselves to find relief from the pain.
 
2014-03-19 10:56:58 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Cybernetic: HotWingConspiracy: Apparently she's a cutter. That's empowering too.

Yikes. I haven't seen anything about that in the media reports. If true, it puts a different spin on her career choices.

Sorry for the daily fail link

Personally I think she's an inspiration, a true avatar of feminism.


Now I'm pretty well convinced that this girl has serious issues.
 
2014-03-19 10:59:26 AM  
I guarantee that if I went into porn, I'd make tens of dollars.
 
2014-03-19 11:00:22 AM  

Cerebral Ballsy: Cymbal: Cerebral Ballsy: Cymbal: Rapmaster2000: There's a weird, but non insignificant subset of dudes who get their panties in a twist over "sluts" and want to get them by outing their information, threatening them, etc.  There used to be more here, but reddit has cornered that market.

I don't like to use the term "slut-shaming" in general, but regardless that's not what this is.  It's jealousy that she's giving it to everyone but them.  It's trying to get back at her for making them feel that they're not good enough (because they know they aren't good enough).

This is true, but the majority of slut-shaming and the damage from it comes from other chicks. Some women want to keep pussy as scarce a resource as possible, so they can exert more control over their men. They see sluts as direct threats to the value of their prized resource.

"Prized resource"? Don't put the pussy on a pedestal.

I have no problem with porn stars. I have a problem with people who don't deal with reality. She's going to crash, and hard.

You'd like that wouldn't you? Make you feel better about all your play-it-safe life choices?

I am the farthest from "play-it-safe" in this thread, trust me. I simply have experience in this area. This industry is filled with women who have been sexually abused and don't know where to turn for help. She's a sex addict, not a beacon for women's independence. I've only heard her story 100 times from women just like her. Some of them eventually clean up, most don't.


While it's great you can draw on your vast experience in this area, you really don't know this woman at all. So you are jumping to a lot conclusions, which is what I have a problem with. And I don't think she should be treated like a beacon of women's independence, she should be treated like any other human being. You have showed yourself incapable of doing that though.
 
2014-03-19 11:00:34 AM  

MycroftHolmes: lennavan: Marcus Aurelius: A self reliant woman frightens many Americans.  They just lose their shiat at the very thought of it.  Because they're pussies.

And there's nothing more self reliant than a woman using her pussy to pay the bills.

If you are being sarcastic, you are an idiot.  A person utilizing the assets or talents to support themselves, in whatever legal and ethical capacity, is showing self reliance.

And you do not even want to get into the mess of approaching the hypocrisy of a person openly selling sex, when sex is indirectly sold in just about every industry (ever notice how salespeople for male dominated industries happen to be attractive females...how is what they are doing any different than a porn star, except ion a matter of degree).


There is a little difference between Cindy Crawford holding a phallic-shaped can of pepsi and taking a hot load to the face from a number of dicks. While this girls effort may be a form of self-reliance, it wouldn't exactly be modeled as something dependable or stable. That is where degrees of difference might play. The sexual double standard I don't think is the issue here. She thinks it is, the people sending her the hate mail are also caught up in this, but I don't think she or they have thought her cunning plans all the way through.
 
2014-03-19 11:03:40 AM  

Chris Ween: I guarantee that if I went into porn, I'd make tens of dollars.


I bet, if you worked hard for years you could make hundreds.
 
2014-03-19 11:03:54 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: spiderpaz: fluffy2097: spiderpaz: I have a lot more respect for someone putting themselves through school with a real job that pays shiatty wages than I do for someone that takes the route of drug dealing or prostituting to do the same.

Why work harder, when you can have a life instead?


It's a trade off.  It's a high risk high payoff decision.  If you want to get a lot of money quickly, you can make the decision to have sex for money or to break the law and sell drugs.  That doesn't make you more talented, and deserving of praise.  You're making a lot of money because there aren't that many people willing to do it because of the risks involved.  You could die, go to jail, or be marginalized the rest of your life.  People who end up doing these sorts of things tend to be people who find themselves in a tough spot, and just say fark it, and decide to risk it.  That doesn't necessarily make them awful people ... they just gave in to the temptation of easy money and ignored the potential downside.  If these things weren't true there would be a lot more of you farkers making a living selling drugs and having sex for money instead of taking the safe route working 8 hours a day in your cubicle.

Your amoral attitude about how you make your money doesn't mean that I have one. There are people who don't sell drugs because...drugs are bad, Mmmkay? There are people who don't sell pussy for money because they don't believe in premarital sex or sex outside of marriage. You have no idea why people choose the path that they choose. You just thought it would make you look edgy to say that eveyrone is a cubicle-dweller, thereby insinuating that you're one of the people in the game. Stop fakin'. You ain't about that life.


Not even close.  I'm a software engineer.  I'm just stating a fact that easy money is only easy because there's not a straight up competition for it since 99% of people would look at the risk/reward and decide it wasn't worth it or that it was immoral or shameful.  They're not making that money because they're so outstanding at what they do that they're "out-competing" everyone else at it.  They don't deserve admiration for what they do.  Especially when they say outright that if they could afford to not do it, they wouldn't.  This woman admitted that the only reason she's doing porn is because she was forced to do it financially.  I feel sorry for her.  I wish she didn't have to do something she would rather not do because she can't afford college otherwise.  The hero worship narrative about her story doesn't make sense any more than a story admiring a student paying their tuition selling drugs does.
 
2014-03-19 11:04:39 AM  

Cybernetic: Cerebral Ballsy: Marcus Aurelius: A self reliant woman frightens many Americans.  They just lose their shiat at the very thought of it.  Because they're pussies.

She's a sex addict with daddy issues. Please do not buy into her "New Feminism" bullshiat.

Also as someone who went right from a sheltered home in the 'burbs to sucking cox I think she's more "dependent" than "independent".

I don't wish her any ill will, I just despise it when people lie to themselves because they can't face the truth.

Are you saying this because you know something about her as an individual? Or are you extrapolating from what you know of her background?


I don't know anything about her, I just have been involved in the industry. I dated a guy for years who's family owned strip bars.

The ones that say the things she's saying are the ones that just got into it and realize they like the attention. Then after they're there for a while it gets old, if they've got any kind of brain. Not to mention tour coworkers are batshiat insane sometimes, or messed up addicts. But it's really hard to get out.

Anywhere else she goes will be an income drop. Almost anywhere she goes will be the "ooooo she walked in porno!" Group. And don't even get started with the people who will throw her application in the trash the minute they see her job history because stripping is not a Christian thing to do for a living.

She's happy now, I'm just saying it won't last. And anyone who tries to paint this industry as rosy is lying to you.
 
2014-03-19 11:05:35 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Clint_Torres: Knox is putting her money where her mouth is, actually defending the student who outed her porn persona on social media.
"It's not acceptable that he's being harassed. I've actually released kind of a plea for my fans to stop harassing him," she said. "He's a good person who made a mistake. He apologized for it, at the end of the day it's between me and him."

Maybe...but he outed you and made your personal life public. And then he was outed. So whatever happens after that is fair game.

Seriously, fark that guy. He should kill himself for what he did. Or at the very least feel really, really bad about it.

She said he apologized and she apparently accepted it, what else are you looking for?


She may have accepted his apology, but I don't. What he did was immature and reprehensible. If anyone deserves to have garbage thrown on them, it's this guy.
 
2014-03-19 11:06:10 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Latinwolf: Cymbal: Rapmaster2000: There's a weird, but non insignificant subset of dudes who get their panties in a twist over "sluts" and want to get them by outing their information, threatening them, etc.  There used to be more here, but reddit has cornered that market.

I don't like to use the term "slut-shaming" in general, but regardless that's not what this is.  It's jealousy that she's giving it to everyone but them.  It's trying to get back at her for making them feel that they're not good enough (because they know they aren't good enough).

This is true, but the majority of slut-shaming and the damage from it comes from other chicks. Some women want to keep pussy as scarce a resource as possible, so they can exert more control over their men. They see sluts as direct threats to the value of their prized resource.

So most of the farkers in this thread calling her a slut are women?

Nobody has called her a slut in this thread.


But there has been plenty of slut shaming as well as calling her an attention whore, a term you note is mostly used against women (and sometimes gay men).
 
2014-03-19 11:06:24 AM  
Props to her for coming up with "jobs" with that face, woof.
 
2014-03-19 11:07:13 AM  

spiderpaz: DROxINxTHExWIND: spiderpaz: fluffy2097: spiderpaz: I have a lot more respect for someone putting themselves through school with a real job that pays shiatty wages than I do for someone that takes the route of drug dealing or prostituting to do the same.

Why work harder, when you can have a life instead?


It's a trade off.  It's a high risk high payoff decision.  If you want to get a lot of money quickly, you can make the decision to have sex for money or to break the law and sell drugs.  That doesn't make you more talented, and deserving of praise.  You're making a lot of money because there aren't that many people willing to do it because of the risks involved.  You could die, go to jail, or be marginalized the rest of your life.  People who end up doing these sorts of things tend to be people who find themselves in a tough spot, and just say fark it, and decide to risk it.  That doesn't necessarily make them awful people ... they just gave in to the temptation of easy money and ignored the potential downside.  If these things weren't true there would be a lot more of you farkers making a living selling drugs and having sex for money instead of taking the safe route working 8 hours a day in your cubicle.

Your amoral attitude about how you make your money doesn't mean that I have one. There are people who don't sell drugs because...drugs are bad, Mmmkay? There are people who don't sell pussy for money because they don't believe in premarital sex or sex outside of marriage. You have no idea why people choose the path that they choose. You just thought it would make you look edgy to say that eveyrone is a cubicle-dweller, thereby insinuating that you're one of the people in the game. Stop fakin'. You ain't about that life.

Not even close.  I'm a software engineer.  I'm just stating a fact that easy money is only easy because there's not a straight up competition for it since 99% of people would look at the risk/reward and decide it wasn't worth it or that it was i ...



Apologies then. I was totally loud and wrong. I get your point.
 
2014-03-19 11:07:33 AM  

doubled99: I don't wish her any ill will, I just despise it when people lie to themselves because they can't face the truth.

so you're a misanthrope, then? or just another massive hypocrite


No I'm someone who doesn't like to lie. Does it bother you when I talk about the misfortunes of porn stars? Does than make them seem less like a perfect, willig doll for your fantasy and more like a flawed human you should care about? Sorry for ruining your boner.
 
2014-03-19 11:08:54 AM  

Clint_Torres: HotWingConspiracy: Clint_Torres: Knox is putting her money where her mouth is, actually defending the student who outed her porn persona on social media.
"It's not acceptable that he's being harassed. I've actually released kind of a plea for my fans to stop harassing him," she said. "He's a good person who made a mistake. He apologized for it, at the end of the day it's between me and him."

Maybe...but he outed you and made your personal life public. And then he was outed. So whatever happens after that is fair game.

Seriously, fark that guy. He should kill himself for what he did. Or at the very least feel really, really bad about it.

She said he apologized and she apparently accepted it, what else are you looking for?

She may have accepted his apology, but I don't. What he did was immature and reprehensible. If anyone deserves to have garbage thrown on them, it's this guy.


If you want to sleep with her then setting up a porn shoot will be a lot more effective than holding grudges against an acquaintance of her's who she doesn't even have a problem with.
 
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