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2014-03-19 10:10:37 AM  

Cerebral Ballsy: b0rscht: Women's Studies major. I'm speechless.

Nothing says "I came here to find a husband" like a worthless major.


Tell us about your worthy major and how it was a very serious endeavor that left you no time for dating, which resulted in your single, celibate, mom's basement existence?
 
2014-03-19 10:10:47 AM  

Cerebral Ballsy: Marcus Aurelius: A self reliant woman frightens many Americans.  They just lose their shiat at the very thought of it.  Because they're pussies.

She's a sex addict with daddy issues. Please do not buy into her "New Feminism" bullshiat.

Also as someone who went right from a sheltered home in the 'burbs to sucking cox I think she's more "dependent" than "independent".

I don't wish her any ill will, I just despise it when people lie to themselves because they can't face the truth.


Pretty much that.  I hate that she's receiving threats.  And for all I know she's a decent person when just hanging out.  But getting farked on camera empowering?  I guess that's cool when you're banging other young good-looking people for cash.  But lets discuss how empowering it is when your next shoot involves various sex acts with a old ball of fat hair like Ron Jeremey.
 
2014-03-19 10:10:48 AM  

The hopeless imp: FTA: "I've made between 25-30 videos, and at the rate I'm going, I've made enough to pay for this year."

Either that's an expensive school, or I way overestimate how much a porn star makes.


$57K per year for Duke.
 
2014-03-19 10:11:06 AM  

Frank N Stein: Roxie Deville


I have met one (Isobel Wren). She is kind of a biatch.  I've only met her a few times, but one time she seemed really cool and likable and the other times she wanted you to know she was the smartest, and nerdiest and most cultured person in the room. Maybe that is just her or maybe that is a chip on her shoulder from her job.
 
2014-03-19 10:11:12 AM  

Cerebral Ballsy: Cymbal: Rapmaster2000: There's a weird, but non insignificant subset of dudes who get their panties in a twist over "sluts" and want to get them by outing their information, threatening them, etc.  There used to be more here, but reddit has cornered that market.

I don't like to use the term "slut-shaming" in general, but regardless that's not what this is.  It's jealousy that she's giving it to everyone but them.  It's trying to get back at her for making them feel that they're not good enough (because they know they aren't good enough).

This is true, but the majority of slut-shaming and the damage from it comes from other chicks. Some women want to keep pussy as scarce a resource as possible, so they can exert more control over their men. They see sluts as direct threats to the value of their prized resource.

"Prized resource"? Don't put the pussy on a pedestal.

I have no problem with porn stars. I have a problem with people who don't deal with reality. She's going to crash, and hard.


You'd like that wouldn't you? Make you feel better about all your play-it-safe life choices?
 
2014-03-19 10:11:23 AM  
There seems to be a strong correlation between farkers making misogynistic comments in this thread and farkers who loudly and proudly declare their independence from political parties over on the Politics tab.
 
2014-03-19 10:12:25 AM  

b0rscht: Women's Studies major. I'm speechless.


Yeah.  She's probably better off not taking such classes.
 
2014-03-19 10:12:31 AM  

QueenMamaBee: $57K per year for Duke.


There is no major you could do that would make that worthwhile.
 
2014-03-19 10:12:50 AM  

StRalphTheLiar: Not to condone it, but how did she not see this coming? Was she not aware that many college students spend most of their waking hours watching porn online?


She's a college freshman and a relative newbie in the porn biz.
Nearly all her experience has come from school, literature, and self-selected internet content. She'd just left home and didn't know what the world is like, she just thought she did.
 
2014-03-19 10:13:04 AM  

Epic Fap Session: There seems to be a strong correlation between farkers making misogynistic comments in this thread and farkers who loudly and proudly declare their independence from political parties over on the Politics tab.


img.fark.net

Politics tab. You should go back to that.
 
2014-03-19 10:13:12 AM  

Super_pope: She'll have 2-3 days of having sex on film every other week for the next couple of years, make a few million dollars, then go back to get her degree when she's tired of it.

Sounds farking ideal, but there are a bunch of people out there acting like this is some kind of tragic life.  If I could make out like a bandit on having people film me while I experience pleasure I would literally be all over that, and nobody would act like I'm tragic.  Cause I'm a dude.

Make it a woman having sex like that though and its just awful.  Awful :'(


First of all, you don't make millions in porno unless you're at the top of the popularity pyramid.

Second, here's the sad fact of it: society treats female (and who knows maybe male) porn stars like they have job herpes afterward. Good luck to her if she ever tries to be taken seriously. The assholes who drove her out of Duke will be there when she tries to get a non-industry job later, too.

Most women involved are working through issues of past sexual abuse, some aren't. Most women involved are sex addicts, some aren't. Most people involved are heavy into drug use, some aren't. It will start to get to her eventually.

Lastly: she's not too farking bright for someone who got into Duke if she didn't see this harassment coming.
 
2014-03-19 10:13:19 AM  

Frank N Stein: lockers: Frank N Stein: [31.media.tumblr.com image 360x480]

And I'm sure this woman is still better than Sasha Grey. Seriously, who tries to impress people with a selfie of you and your philosophy book about farking existentialism (of all things). Name drop harder, and let me know when you get through the first 10 pages.

I bet she is better read than you. Seriously, just stop.

wut?


He is saying that you are an insecure idiot and to stop trying so hard to make yourself look better by insulting other people.
 
2014-03-19 10:14:57 AM  

QueenMamaBee: The hopeless imp: FTA: "I've made between 25-30 videos, and at the rate I'm going, I've made enough to pay for this year."

Either that's an expensive school, or I way overestimate how much a porn star makes.

$57K per year for Duke.


A couple of weeks worth of work, tops.
 
2014-03-19 10:15:15 AM  

jdjoker: Billy Bathsalt: Thus making the world safe for good little misses and their ever-present football player rapists.

Watch your mouth, bro. Duke's accused rapists were lacrosse players. They'll totally pop their collars on you.


Lacrosse is a tough, vicious sport. Lacrosse is actually Algonquin for "bloodsport".
 
2014-03-19 10:15:19 AM  

fluffy2097: Grungehamster: Libertarian1 Women's Studies major2 porn star3. There is a Venn diagram you'd never expect to see a contact point on.

You don't know much about womens studies do you.

/strippers and lesbians my friend. strippers and lesbians.


Honestly it's the first two that seem the rarest to me. Libertarian and a porn star is unsurprising: the types of people most attracted to the ideals of libertarianism are young people with an easy stream of cash. Women's studies and porn is ok too considering a major part of third wave feminism has been a rejection of sex work as implicitly exploitive of women. Women's studies majors generally support some sort of intervention to redirect and influence society's view of the role of women. It's not a requirement but seems really common.
 
2014-03-19 10:15:52 AM  

Headso: frepnog: that's it, ladies.  keep thinking you can have a life after porn.  seriously, this girl might as well blow off college at this point and go porn full time.

I could be wrong but I doubt her real name is Belle Knox...


She's worked on getting publicity and notoriety enough now that when you type her real name into Google it helpfully auto-fills to include her porn name before you even finish her surname. If she ever applies for a non-porn job it'll take all of 30 seconds for potential employers to figure out she's worked in porn.
 
2014-03-19 10:16:11 AM  

StRalphTheLiar: Not to condone it, but how did she not see this coming? Was she not aware that many college students spend most of their waking hours watching porn online?


It seems a common theme among porn stars, both men and women, that they don't think anybody they know or associate with will find out that they do porn, and are shocked when they do.
 
2014-03-19 10:18:16 AM  
I've never understood what the problem with porn is. Lots of women can't give a decent hummer for love or money, why shouldn't a woman who can and is willing to produce a product people want be able to make a living at it?
And dude porn stars too. Lots of guys will never be able to perform even the base retirement (having a huge dick) much less be able to get and maintain multiple erections and have controlled ejaculations.
There are more worthless, scummy jobs out there. Like HR manager. Or lawyer.
 
2014-03-19 10:20:08 AM  

QueenMamaBee: The hopeless imp: FTA: "I've made between 25-30 videos, and at the rate I'm going, I've made enough to pay for this year."

Either that's an expensive school, or I way overestimate how much a porn star makes.

$57K per year for Duke.


Also 25-30 videos only takes a couple of months to wrack up.  That's a pretty decent payday only working like.. 2 days a week.

She was a relative unknown too.  People will be much more interested now meaning she'll make quite a bit more money going forward.  She'll probably even do a lot of college themed content with Duke-esque outfits to capitalize on this.
 
2014-03-19 10:20:26 AM  

lockers: Since she doesn't do fart porn I wouldn't have seen her, but the jealous women bit makes sense.


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2014-03-19 10:20:30 AM  

Target Builder: Headso: frepnog: that's it, ladies.  keep thinking you can have a life after porn.  seriously, this girl might as well blow off college at this point and go porn full time.

I could be wrong but I doubt her real name is Belle Knox...

She's worked on getting publicity and notoriety enough now that when you type her real name into Google it helpfully auto-fills to include her porn name before you even finish her surname. If she ever applies for a non-porn job it'll take all of 30 seconds for potential employers to figure out she's worked in porn.


Of course, the guy who outed her porn career is also notorious now.
 
2014-03-19 10:20:52 AM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: I've never understood what the problem with porn is. Lots of women can't give a decent hummer for love or money, why shouldn't a woman who can and is willing to produce a product people want be able to make a living at it?
And dude porn stars too. Lots of guys will never be able to perform even the base retirement (having a huge dick) much less be able to get and maintain multiple erections and have controlled ejaculations.
There are more worthless, scummy jobs out there. Like HR manager. Or lawyer.


Duh, Jesus didn't do porn so obviously it must be the work of the devil.
 
2014-03-19 10:20:55 AM  

MycroftHolmes: lennavan: Marcus Aurelius: A self reliant woman frightens many Americans.  They just lose their shiat at the very thought of it.  Because they're pussies.

And there's nothing more self reliant than a woman using her pussy to pay the bills.

If you are being sarcastic, you are an idiot.  A person utilizing the assets or talents to support themselves, in whatever legal and ethical capacity, is showing self reliance.

And you do not even want to get into the mess of approaching the hypocrisy of a person openly selling sex, when sex is indirectly sold in just about every industry (ever notice how salespeople for male dominated industries happen to be attractive females...how is what they are doing any different than a porn star, except ion a matter of degree).



This is such a farking joke.  You know what, if you want to believe the bullshiat this girl is peddling, you go right ahead.  You're right, she's a real self reliant hero, worthy of admiration.  Little girls should be taught about how great she is.
 
2014-03-19 10:21:39 AM  

Sgt Otter: Marcus Aurelius: A self reliant woman frightens many Americans.  They just lose their shiat at the very thought of it.  Because they're pussies.

The dude who originally outed her looked like a Lamda Lamda Lamda from "Revenge of the Nerds."  The owner of a particularly vile porn site also recognized his name as a subscriber.


...that horrible moment when he realized that there was STILL absolutely no way that she'd sleep with him...

How she makes her money, I don't care. It's legal, she's a consenting adult, and in all honesty, I'd rather see prostitution legalized just to get the pimps out of the game, to see men and women engaged in the trade get some legal protection, as well the chance to see them organized--not to mention get the police and others out of the sex trade directly or indirectly with corruption and bribes paid to them--and paying their taxes. The sex industry is huge, and the revenue is just sort of hidden away and laundered and it only makes money for folks who are less than scrupulous to begin with, so let's bring it out into the light, and stop the faux moralizing about it, when every damn town in the nation has its prostitutes. Legalize it already, and get these folks some decent medical care, real protection that doesn't involve pimps, and stringing folks out on drugs to keep them compliant.

As for the "strong woman" motif: I don't care. It's none of my damn business. Too gottverdammt Nosey Nellies in the world as it is.

What kills me about this whole thing is this: folks get themselves all up on a high horse about porn, yet don't seem to be all that incensed about viewing the stuff. If you're watching porn, and you're disgusted at the thought of this woman: congrats, you're part of the damn problem. It's better to be the reason that it's profitable, than getting paid. You'd rather be the entire reason for an industry, make demands upon it, but then look down on the folks who make fodder for your evening wank. Get over it. It's porn. You like it well enough, but the moment that the people might actually appear to be real, and not just sprites, then it becomes all icky. And maybe that's the problem...
 
2014-03-19 10:23:23 AM  

ongbok: It seems a common theme among porn stars, both men and women, that they don't think anybody they know or associate with will find out that they do porn, and are shocked when they do.


Or they're shocked about the dramatic shift in how people treat them and how hypocritical everyone around them is.
 
2014-03-19 10:23:33 AM  

Frank N Stein: [31.media.tumblr.com image 360x480]

And I'm sure this woman is still better than Sasha Grey. Seriously, who tries to impress people with a selfie of you and your philosophy book about farking existentialism (of all things). Name drop harder, and let me know when you get through the first 10 pages.


Surely an attractive woman who is comfortable with her sexuality can't also comprehend philosophy.
 
2014-03-19 10:25:36 AM  

lennavan: This is such a farking joke. You know what, if you want to believe the bullshiat this girl is peddling, you go right ahead. You're right, she's a real self reliant hero, worthy of admiration. Little girls should be taught about how great she is.


You seem concerned.
 
2014-03-19 10:25:55 AM  

Cerebral Ballsy: Super_pope: She'll have 2-3 days of having sex on film every other week for the next couple of years, make a few million dollars, then go back to get her degree when she's tired of it.

Sounds farking ideal, but there are a bunch of people out there acting like this is some kind of tragic life.  If I could make out like a bandit on having people film me while I experience pleasure I would literally be all over that, and nobody would act like I'm tragic.  Cause I'm a dude.

Make it a woman having sex like that though and its just awful.  Awful :'(

First of all, you don't make millions in porno unless you're at the top of the popularity pyramid.

Second, here's the sad fact of it: society treats female (and who knows maybe male) porn stars like they have job herpes afterward. Good luck to her if she ever tries to be taken seriously. The assholes who drove her out of Duke will be there when she tries to get a non-industry job later, too.

Most women involved are working through issues of past sexual abuse, some aren't. Most women involved are sex addicts, some aren't. Most people involved are heavy into drug use, some aren't. It will start to get to her eventually.

Lastly: she's not too farking bright for someone who got into Duke if she didn't see this harassment coming.


I can't think of a single porn star who's mad millions.  15 years ago the average rate per straight sex scene was $1,500.   More for fetish or interracial.  Today the average is about $1K.   Yes, some "stars" get more, but those are few and far in between.  The girls make most of their money from dancing at the strip clubs....the videos are mostly like advertisements.
 
2014-03-19 10:26:04 AM  

Theaetetus: Target Builder: Headso: frepnog: that's it, ladies.  keep thinking you can have a life after porn.  seriously, this girl might as well blow off college at this point and go porn full time.

I could be wrong but I doubt her real name is Belle Knox...

She's worked on getting publicity and notoriety enough now that when you type her real name into Google it helpfully auto-fills to include her porn name before you even finish her surname. If she ever applies for a non-porn job it'll take all of 30 seconds for potential employers to figure out she's worked in porn.

Of course, the guy who outed her porn career is also notorious now.


I have a strong feeling that 12 months down the line the only person who will have come out ahead is the owner of the site she was outed from.
 
2014-03-19 10:26:05 AM  
FTFA "If I could give advice for any person who was choosing college, I would honestly advise them to go to a cheaper school," she said."

something about this comment made me laugh. It almost undermines her personal philosophy, as if it dawned on her, "You mean, I didn't have to get DP'd for 2 straight months and spackled with cum to get an education".

I have never put much stock into the credos and anthems of the sexual revolution. While sex can definitely be an empowering and grand expression of self, a lot of what turns the gears in the internet porn world doesn't seem to be so redeeming. I also believe that there are hard-wired psychological tendencies passed through billions of years of evolution that filter differently the sex experience for men and women. That a woman's natural predisposition or instinctual nature toward sex is more family and mentally oriented in her psyche, which makes turning out different sexual partners difficult behavior to reconcile. This may even be a part of a larger human condition, as after a period of loose and free sex I felt unfulfilled and held a low self-esteem, wanted a change, something more stable and real. Maybe Knox Belle can compartmentalize better, who knows. Maybe she's just a sexual freak and there's nothing wrong with that either, unless it starts to endanger her life directly.

I wish her the best, would love to take her to task and hope she can navigate the next three years in the porn biz.
 
2014-03-19 10:26:34 AM  

Fissile: Her mother is Indian, of the subcontinental variety.  Indian men, who watch loads of online porn, get totally freaked from Indian woman they perceive as "loose".   I'm guessing that's where the death threats are probably coming from.

As for the slut shaming from everyone else, I really don't get it.   I had a friend who was the IT guy at a place I used to work.  Years ago, while he was living in Florida, he was approached by some guys who were producing porn vids.   The porn producers hired my friend to design a porn website for this new intrawebz thingy.

My IT friend became very knowledgeable about the porn biz, and the kind of girls who do porn.  The stereotypes about porn chicks are true....most are drug addicts, alcoholics,  have psychological problems or a combination of all of the above.   It's my understanding that this girl likes to cut on herself.

This girl's life is a train wreck in motion, it's disgusting how so many people are feeding off of this.


For 7 years I dated a guy whose family owned strip bars. I grew up in a Catholic family in rural Florida. It was nothing short of culture shock when my BF went to work for the family bars handling the books.

The women were exactly as you described. I saw fights over who stole whose cocaine from their locker. Every day the girls were trashed at work.. Some of them looked like zombies. I learned a lot about women's studies and so will this young lady.

I went on a double date with my BF and his father and his father's stripper GF. They started talking business and complaining that the girls were always drunk or high, a situation the owners tolerated. His dad made a comment like "I just don't understand why they can't be sober when they work". And I said "because they are trying to forget who they are and where they are."

I knew two people in that business who weren't constantly farked up.. My BF's father's GF, and a chick I met in college. Everyone else was perpetually wasted and their lives were modern tragedies.
 
2014-03-19 10:26:47 AM  

Pangea: Surely an attractive woman who is comfortable with her sexuality can't also comprehend philosophy.


Most don't try to use it as a prop to scream as loud as they can to the world, "TAKE ME SERIOUSLY!! I'M SMART!"
 
2014-03-19 10:27:17 AM  
Knox is putting her money where her mouth is, actually defending the student who outed her porn persona on social media.
"It's not acceptable that he's being harassed. I've actually released kind of a plea for my fans to stop harassing him," she said. "He's a good person who made a mistake. He apologized for it, at the end of the day it's between me and him."


Maybe...but he outed you and made your personal life public. And then he was outed. So whatever happens after that is fair game.

Seriously, fark that guy. He should kill himself for what he did. Or at the very least feel really, really bad about it.
 
2014-03-19 10:27:32 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Her leaving college is so sad. She was head of her class.


-_-
 
2014-03-19 10:28:36 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: A self reliant woman frightens many Americans.  They just lose their shiat at the very thought of it.  Because they're pussies.


Speaking of frightened, you should maybe think about not using "pussy" as a pejorative, it makes you look like you've never been there before.
 
2014-03-19 10:28:41 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: A self reliant woman frightens many Americans.  They just lose their shiat at the very thought of it.  Because they're pussies.


Frightens a lot of male farkers too.
 
2014-03-19 10:28:51 AM  
Nothing is more indicative of the hypocritical naivete and ignorance of fundies than the fact that they are instantly willing to get violent over somebody else's genitals.
 
2014-03-19 10:29:46 AM  
Last night I watched Cosmos and my spirit was lifted by the soaring majesty of the history of life on this planet and its dogged tenacity.

Then I came in here, read this story and the stupidity of the whole thing reached into the sky, grabbed me by the balls and pulled me down into a pile of intellectual shiat so deep I don't think I'll ever feel the sun on my face again.

/ I would not be greatly disappointed if the tree of life's ape branch snapped off....
 
2014-03-19 10:30:35 AM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: I've never understood what the problem with porn is. Lots of women can't give a decent hummer for love or money, why shouldn't a woman who can and is willing to produce a product people want be able to make a living at it?


You must not have seen her porn ... she's not talented.  She just lays there getting farked.  Female porn stars aren't making money because they're outstanding ... they make money because they are willing to do things that other people would be too ashamed to do.  She completely entitled to her money, and doesn't deserve to be harassed - but I would say the same thing about a prostitute (and she is a prostitute).  There's nothing wrong with what she's doing, but I have a lot more respect for someone putting themselves through school with a real job that pays shiatty wages than I do for someone that takes the route of drug dealing or prostituting to do the same.
 
2014-03-19 10:30:59 AM  

skozlaw: Last night I watched Cosmos and my spirit was lifted by the soaring majesty of the history of life on this planet and its dogged tenacity.

Then I came in here, read this story and the stupidity of the whole thing reached into the sky, grabbed me by the balls and pulled me down into a pile of intellectual shiat so deep I don't think I'll ever feel the sun on my face again.

/ I would not be greatly disappointed if the tree of life's ape branch snapped off....


Weird. You post did the same to me.
 
2014-03-19 10:31:32 AM  

Clint_Torres: Knox is putting her money where her mouth is, actually defending the student who outed her porn persona on social media.
"It's not acceptable that he's being harassed. I've actually released kind of a plea for my fans to stop harassing him," she said. "He's a good person who made a mistake. He apologized for it, at the end of the day it's between me and him."

Maybe...but he outed you and made your personal life public. And then he was outed. So whatever happens after that is fair game.

Seriously, fark that guy. He should kill himself for what he did. Or at the very least feel really, really bad about it.


She said he apologized and she apparently accepted it, what else are you looking for?
 
2014-03-19 10:31:52 AM  

hubiestubert: Sgt Otter: Marcus Aurelius: A self reliant woman frightens many Americans.  They just lose their shiat at the very thought of it.  Because they're pussies.

The dude who originally outed her looked like a Lamda Lamda Lamda from "Revenge of the Nerds."  The owner of a particularly vile porn site also recognized his name as a subscriber.

...that horrible moment when he realized that there was STILL absolutely no way that she'd sleep with him...

How she makes her money, I don't care. It's legal, she's a consenting adult, and in all honesty, I'd rather see prostitution legalized just to get the pimps out of the game, to see men and women engaged in the trade get some legal protection, as well the chance to see them organized--not to mention get the police and others out of the sex trade directly or indirectly with corruption and bribes paid to them--and paying their taxes. The sex industry is huge, and the revenue is just sort of hidden away and laundered and it only makes money for folks who are less than scrupulous to begin with, so let's bring it out into the light, and stop the faux moralizing about it, when every damn town in the nation has its prostitutes. Legalize it already, and get these folks some decent medical care, real protection that doesn't involve pimps, and stringing folks out on drugs to keep them compliant.

As for the "strong woman" motif: I don't care. It's none of my damn business. Too gottverdammt Nosey Nellies in the world as it is.

What kills me about this whole thing is this: folks get themselves all up on a high horse about porn, yet don't seem to be all that incensed about viewing the stuff. If you're watching porn, and you're disgusted at the thought of this woman: congrats, you're part of the damn problem. It's better to be the reason that it's profitable, than getting paid. You'd rather be the entire reason for an industry, make demands upon it, but then look down on the folks who make fodder for your evening wank. Get over it. It's po ...


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Not to mention, a lot of the same people who are currently excoriating and eviscerating this girl were the first in line when Fifty Shades of Grey came out and will be the first in line when the movie drops next year.  Even though what she's doing is probably far more of a turn on than that book could ever hope to be.

/don't know why I didn't have you in a nice shade of green before
//you are now
 
2014-03-19 10:33:14 AM  

Cerebral Ballsy: Fissile: Her mother is Indian, of the subcontinental variety.  Indian men, who watch loads of online porn, get totally freaked from Indian woman they perceive as "loose".   I'm guessing that's where the death threats are probably coming from.

As for the slut shaming from everyone else, I really don't get it.   I had a friend who was the IT guy at a place I used to work.  Years ago, while he was living in Florida, he was approached by some guys who were producing porn vids.   The porn producers hired my friend to design a porn website for this new intrawebz thingy.

My IT friend became very knowledgeable about the porn biz, and the kind of girls who do porn.  The stereotypes about porn chicks are true....most are drug addicts, alcoholics,  have psychological problems or a combination of all of the above.   It's my understanding that this girl likes to cut on herself.

This girl's life is a train wreck in motion, it's disgusting how so many people are feeding off of this.

For 7 years I dated a guy whose family owned strip bars. I grew up in a Catholic family in rural Florida. It was nothing short of culture shock when my BF went to work for the family bars handling the books.

The women were exactly as you described. I saw fights over who stole whose cocaine from their locker. Every day the girls were trashed at work.. Some of them looked like zombies. I learned a lot about women's studies and so will this young lady.

I went on a double date with my BF and his father and his father's stripper GF. They started talking business and complaining that the girls were always drunk or high, a situation the owners tolerated. His dad made a comment like "I just don't understand why they can't be sober when they work". And I said "because they are trying to forget who they are and where they are."

I knew two people in that business who weren't constantly farked up.. My BF's father's GF, and a chick I met in college. Everyone else was perpetually wasted and their lives were modern tragedies.


Slut-shaming is a helluva drug.

Here's a thought. Maybe strippers and sex-workers wouldn't need to be drunk and/or high all the time if they were treated like any other human being trying to make it in the world.
 
2014-03-19 10:33:16 AM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: I've never understood what the problem with porn is.


Speaking specifically for myself, I don't have a problem with this girl doing porn at all.  Indeed, I looked up one of her videos (educational purposes of course) and I fully support her career in porn.  My problem is with the bullshiat she's peddling along with it.  Read one of the earlier articles about her and how happy and empowered she is by doing porn.  I called bullshiat then (I might try to pull up one of the first Fark.com threads about her) and I'm calling it now.

porn as "empowering," "wonderful" and "how the world should be"; and claimed that she's not worried about how this will affect her career prospects. "I'd like to be a lawyer," she told the creepy guy behind the camera in her first ever scene for the porn site Facial Abuse, moments before a male actor begins choking her.

http://time.com/13095/the-duke-porn-star-isnt-as-empowered-as-she-cl ai ms/

By the way, her current line is she is only doing porn because Duke is so expensive.

PLAYBOY: You wrote that one of the main reasons you did porn was to pay for school and not be saddled with large student loans once you graduated. Would you be doing porn if Duke were free?

KNOX: No. If Duke had given me the proper financial resources, I wouldn't have done porn. They have nobody to blame for the scandal but themselves.


http://playboysfw.kinja.com/meet-belle-knox-the-duke-porn-star-as-yo u- might-have-1535822551/@sarah-hedgecock

She dropped out of Duke and moved to strip in NYC because Duke doesn't have proper financial resources.
 
2014-03-19 10:33:55 AM  

lennavan: kroonermanblack: lennavan: Marcus Aurelius: A self reliant woman frightens many Americans.  They just lose their shiat at the very thought of it.  Because they're pussies.

And there's nothing more self reliant than a woman using her pussy to pay the bills.

Like there's nothing self reliant about a man using his arms to do day labor? Or construction, non skilled, work? Or a yoga instructor? Fry cook? Hell, even a salaryman uses his body and isn't particularly well trained or anything.

Porn is actually a skill, as I understand it, even for the women. Don't these shoots which produce an hour often take 12+ to film?

It's not brain surgery, sure. But like most things in life, it involves a willingness to get dirty and use your body.

I understand you want to argue back by showing a double standard about men.  You know there are male porn stars too, right?  So we can actually talk about the actual male equivalent.  And I feel the same way about them which is -- when I think about self reliant people, I don't think porn stars.  When I teach my kids about self-reliance, I'm not going to use being a porn star as a great example.


Actually my point was that, stigma aside, porn actors are simply actors, people making money with their bodies.

So how do you feel about people doing day labor, or other non skilled labor? I say non skilled so is can exclude electricians, plumbers, etc. how about actors?

Personally I don't really care. There's a lot of money to be made in the sex industry, so I don't see it much differently than going off to work in Afghanistan or offshore etc to make a huge amount of money and party hard while you are young.
 
2014-03-19 10:34:30 AM  

Frank N Stein: Epic Fap Session: There seems to be a strong correlation between farkers making misogynistic comments in this thread and farkers who loudly and proudly declare their independence from political parties over on the Politics tab.

[img.fark.net image 546x154]

Politics tab. You should go back to that.


Sorry to hit so close to home.
 
2014-03-19 10:34:47 AM  

spiderpaz: There's nothing wrong with what she's doing, but I have a lot more respect for someone putting themselves through school with a real job that pays shiatty wages than I do for someone that takes the route of drug dealing or prostituting to do the same.


The real problem with her chosen way of going through school is that it translates to stigma in her career. Granted womens studies won't help either, but this will follow her for the rest of her life. My guess is she will burn out in the porn scene and be flipping burgers in 10 years.
 
2014-03-19 10:35:08 AM  

spiderpaz: I have a lot more respect for someone putting themselves through school with a real job that pays shiatty wages than I do for someone that takes the route of drug dealing or prostituting to do the same.


Why work harder, when you can have a life instead?
 
2014-03-19 10:35:42 AM  

lockers: lennavan: This is such a farking joke. You know what, if you want to believe the bullshiat this girl is peddling, you go right ahead. You're right, she's a real self reliant hero, worthy of admiration. Little girls should be taught about how great she is.

You seem concerned.


She's not going to sleep with you dude.
 
2014-03-19 10:35:47 AM  

Rapmaster2000: There's a weird, but non insignificant subset of dudes who get their panties in a twist over "sluts" and want to get them by outing their information, threatening them, etc.  There used to be more here, but reddit has cornered that market.

I don't like to use the term "slut-shaming" in general, but regardless that's not what this is.  It's jealousy that she's giving it to everyone but them.  It's trying to get back at her for making them feel that they're not good enough (because they know they aren't good enough).


It wouldalso  explain why internet nerds and geeks tend to be the most misogynist  people around.
 
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