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(Deadline)   Ghostbusters 3 on track for a 2015 release despite the death of Harold Ramis, though Ivan Reitman says he's no longer willing to exploit his friend's memory   (deadline.com) divider line 73
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2014-03-18 11:54:25 PM
It won't be the same.
i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-19 12:18:59 AM
Ramis is dead and Murray won't do it, why is being made?
 
2014-03-19 12:20:06 AM

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Ramis is dead and Murray won't do it, why is this being made?


FTFM
 
2014-03-19 12:54:40 AM
2.bp.blogspot.com

Choose the Form of your Destroyer.
 
2014-03-19 01:06:33 AM
Man, I had something written for this, and then I realized I had written about 15 paragraphs. This is a subject of great import to me. But here's the nuts-and-bolts of it:

The first movie was a hit because it had funny people doing funny things.
The second movie got too caught up in fan service, and they forgot to be quite as funny.
Dan Aykroyd is responsible for "Blue Brothers 2,000," which shows what happens when he's allowed to make fan service unhindered.
If a third movie absolutely must be made, Aykroyd should be closely supervised. New cast members should be funny (not modern-day SNL / sitcom "funny," but actually  funny), and blatant fan service / callbacks should be kept to a minimum.
 
2014-03-19 01:41:36 AM

texdent: It won't be the same.
[i.imgur.com image 850x737]


Death is but a door. Time is but a window. He'll be back.
 
2014-03-19 01:44:19 AM

GreenAdder: Man, I had something written for this, and then I realized I had written about 15 paragraphs. This is a subject of great import to me. But here's the nuts-and-bolts of it:

The first movie was a hit because it had funny people doing funny things.
The second movie got too caught up in fan service, and they forgot to be quite as funny.
Dan Aykroyd is responsible for "Blue Brothers 2,000," which shows what happens when he's allowed to make fan service unhindered.
If a third movie absolutely must be made, Aykroyd should be closely supervised. New cast members should be funny (not modern-day SNL / sitcom "funny," but actually  funny), and blatant fan service / callbacks should be kept to a minimum.


I just shortened it to:
Don't. Please don't. Learn from Duke Nukem: The bar is set so high you will never clear it.
 
2014-03-19 01:54:13 AM
Harold Ramis being dead should not be a barrier to him appearing in a Ghostbusters movie.

Someone rummage around the 80s contracts about the use of his image in character in derivative works. It should be in there for toys and games, but I bet it's not tight enough to keep them from making him a ghost.
 
2014-03-19 01:55:13 AM

Sarsin: I just shortened it to:
Don't. Please don't. Learn from Duke Nukem: The bar is set so high you will never clear it


I agree with that, too. Dan Aykroyd's original Ghostbusters treatment would have been nigh-unfilmable. It took place in the future where every city had a squad of Ghostbusters - they were like firemen or police. There were five or six giant monsters in the film. The car flew. The containment unit was an old gas station in New Jersey, surrounded by laser beams. And on and on.

All of those ideas are possible now with the help of computer-generated imagery. This doesn't mean they're good ideas.  It was Reitman's idea to ground the movie in present day. Now that Reitman has relegated himself to producer status, I can only hope the new director is good enough to rein in Aykroyd's ideas.

Again, I bring up "Blues Brothers 2000."
 
2014-03-19 02:01:56 AM
So...no Murray, no Ramis, no Reitman, no Moranis? Why bother? The chemistry that Ramis, Akroyd and Murray had on screen was amazing and no comedy troupe since has captured that chemistry. The group that has come the closest is Seth Rogen, James Franco and Danny McBride and I seriously doubt Ghostbusters 3 would be well served by having the new crew spending 46 minutes of runtime trying to figure out how to use the proton packs (flip "on" switch, aim, pull trigger) because they are too stoned to do anything more than figure out who gets the last bag of Cheetos. I really wanted a Ghostbusters 3, but without Murray, Ramis and Reitman directing, there's just no point.
 
2014-03-19 02:01:59 AM

GreenAdder: I agree with that, too. Dan Aykroyd's original Ghostbusters treatment would have been nigh-unfilmable. It took place in the future where every city had a squad of Ghostbusters - they were like firemen or police. There were five or six giant monsters in the film. The car flew. The containment unit was an old gas station in New Jersey, surrounded by laser beams. And on and on.

All of those ideas are possible now with the help of computer-generated imagery. This doesn't mean they're good ideas.  It was Reitman's idea to ground the movie in present day. Now that Reitman has relegated himself to producer status, I can only hope the new director is good enough to rein in Aykroyd's ideas.


With something like Ghostbusters, less is definitely more. Makes the truly out there or fantastic stuff all the funnier for it. Hell, I set up a Ghostbusters RPG game a few weeks ago in memoriam to Ramis, and the punchline was the paranormal disturbances were caused by a HOA who'd accidentally opened a gate to hell in the process of trying to scare off some shiatty residents.
 
2014-03-19 02:13:34 AM

that bosnian sniper: With something like Ghostbusters, less is definitely more. Makes the truly out there or fantastic stuff all the funnier for it. Hell, I set up a Ghostbusters RPG game a few weeks ago in memoriam to Ramis, and the punchline was the paranormal disturbances were caused by a HOA who'd accidentally opened a gate to hell in the process of trying to scare off some shiatty residents.


I think that's what a lot of people overlook. The first movie wasn't so much about ghosts or the busting thereof. It was about  people who live in that world.

And what system? I've seen GURPS, Savage Worlds, D20 and other conversions.
 
2014-03-19 02:23:43 AM
"Guys, it's cool. We've got this former A-Lister who's ready to play BOTH the Ramis and Murray parts, and because he needs some image rehab he'll do it for just above scale."

"RELEASE THE LABEOUF!"
 
2014-03-19 02:27:11 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: "Guys, it's cool. We've got this former A-Lister who's ready to play BOTH the Ramis and Murray parts, and because he needs some image rehab he'll do it for just above scale."

"RELEASE THE LABEOUF!"


Stop giving them ideas
 
2014-03-19 02:32:47 AM

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Mr. Coffee Nerves: "Guys, it's cool. We've got this former A-Lister who's ready to play BOTH the Ramis and Murray parts, and because he needs some image rehab he'll do it for just above scale."

"RELEASE THE LABEOUF!"

Stop giving them ideas


"Honey. What was that?"

(BWAAAAAMMM - cut to black)

"I think it was some sort of... ghost."

(BWAAAAAMMM - cut to black)

Ghost flies toward camera. Couple screams

(BWAAAAAMMM - cut to black)

"From the writers of 'Freddy Got Fingered' and 'Garfield: A Tale of Two Kitties'"

"And the director of 'Transformers' and 'The Island'"

(BWAAAAAMMM - cut to black)

Cadillac Escalade Ectomobile pulls up.

"This summer... who you gonna call?"

(BWAAAAAMMM - cut to black)

Logo pops up on screen with release date.
 
2014-03-19 02:44:47 AM

eldritch2k4: So...no Murray, no Ramis, no Reitman, no Moranis? Why bother? The chemistry that Ramis, Akroyd and Murray had on screen was amazing and no comedy troupe since has captured that chemistry. The group that has come the closest is Seth Rogen, James Franco and Danny McBride and I seriously doubt Ghostbusters 3 would be well served by having the new crew spending 46 minutes of runtime trying to figure out how to use the proton packs (flip "on" switch, aim, pull trigger) because they are too stoned to do anything more than figure out who gets the last bag of Cheetos. I really wanted a Ghostbusters 3, but without Murray, Ramis and Reitman directing, there's just no point.


Not. Even. Close.
 
2014-03-19 02:59:14 AM
Maybe they'll cross the streams and this abomination will disappear.
 
2014-03-19 03:03:23 AM

wildcardjack: Harold Ramis being dead should not be a barrier to him appearing in a Ghostbusters movie.

Someone rummage around the 80s contracts about the use of his image in character in derivative works. It should be in there for toys and games, but I bet it's not tight enough to keep them from making him a ghost.


Actually, I think that not only could be great, the more out-of-context the outtakes or trims are, the better it will be.  Imagine something like the episode of the Sopranos where Tony's mother dies, only 1000 times weirder.
 
2014-03-19 03:05:20 AM

tjassen: Maybe they'll cross the streams and this abomination will disappear.


Nah, they'll just scrap it, wait 5 years, then put out a shiatty reboot.
 
2014-03-19 03:08:47 AM

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Ramis is dead and Murray won't do it, why is this being made?

FTFM


So much this. Just let it go... while the franchise has its dignity intact.
 
2014-03-19 03:25:37 AM
this is why im constantly reminded that hollywood is a soulless entity willing to sell their own mothers for box office profits.

99% of what they make is crap and they know it but the public is too stupid to stop watching it.
 
2014-03-19 03:59:31 AM

that bosnian sniper: GreenAdder: I agree with that, too. Dan Aykroyd's original Ghostbusters treatment would have been nigh-unfilmable. It took place in the future where every city had a squad of Ghostbusters - they were like firemen or police. There were five or six giant monsters in the film. The car flew. The containment unit was an old gas station in New Jersey, surrounded by laser beams. And on and on.

All of those ideas are possible now with the help of computer-generated imagery. This doesn't mean they're good ideas.  It was Reitman's idea to ground the movie in present day. Now that Reitman has relegated himself to producer status, I can only hope the new director is good enough to rein in Aykroyd's ideas.

With something like Ghostbusters, less is definitely more. Makes the truly out there or fantastic stuff all the funnier for it. Hell, I set up a Ghostbusters RPG game a few weeks ago in memoriam to Ramis, and the punchline was the paranormal disturbances were caused by a HOA who'd accidentally opened a gate to hell in the process of trying to scare off some shiatty residents.


Did you use the WEG Ghostbusters game? My god that was a great game. When we would play we would have to stop for several 15 minute breaks because we couldnt stop laughing, and was just a great deal of fun all around
 
2014-03-19 05:38:13 AM
eldritch2k4
So...no Murray, no Ramis, no Reitman, no Moranis? Why bother?

THIS.
 
2014-03-19 05:38:36 AM
i1182.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-19 06:02:47 AM

GreenAdder: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Mr. Coffee Nerves: "Guys, it's cool. We've got this former A-Lister who's ready to play BOTH the Ramis and Murray parts, and because he needs some image rehab he'll do it for just above scale."

"RELEASE THE LABEOUF!"

Stop giving them ideas

"Honey. What was that?"

(BWAAAAAMMM - cut to black)

"I think it was some sort of... ghost."

(BWAAAAAMMM - cut to black)

Ghost flies toward camera. Couple screams

(BWAAAAAMMM - cut to black)

"From the writers of 'Freddy Got Fingered' and 'Garfield: A Tale of Two Kitties'"

"And the director of 'Transformers' and 'The Island'"

(BWAAAAAMMM - cut to black)

Cadillac Escalade Ectomobile pulls up.

"This summer... who you gonna call?"

(BWAAAAAMMM - cut to black)

Logo pops up on screen with release date.


The only way it could get worse is if they decided to pair LaBeouf's inevitable "I'm so edgy and soulful bad boy" with Justin Bieber playing a rock star turned reluctant ghost hunter that gets possessed by Gozer or some other entity.
 
2014-03-19 06:06:13 AM
He could even do the new version of the theme song. <sarcasm> Wouldn't that be great? </sarcasm> Just imagine...

/imagines it
//sets self on fire
///only way to be clean
 
2014-03-19 06:12:20 AM

GreenAdder: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Mr. Coffee Nerves: "Guys, it's cool. We've got this former A-Lister who's ready to play BOTH the Ramis and Murray parts, and because he needs some image rehab he'll do it for just above scale."

"RELEASE THE LABEOUF!"

Stop giving them ideas

"Honey. What was that?"

(BWAAAAAMMM - cut to black)

"I think it was some sort of... ghost."

(BWAAAAAMMM - cut to black)

Ghost flies toward camera. Couple screams

(BWAAAAAMMM - cut to black)

"From the writers of 'Freddy Got Fingered' and 'Garfield: A Tale of Two Kitties'"

"And the director of 'Transformers' and 'The Island'"

(BWAAAAAMMM - cut to black)

Cadillac Escalade Ectomobile pulls up.

"This summer... who you gonna call?"

(BWAAAAAMMM - cut to black)

Logo pops up on screen with release date.


But when the big fight at the end of the movie starts, you gotta bring back the Ecto I, a la the reappearance of the DB5 in Skyfall.

/Trust me, they'll be standing on their seats cheering
//Have your people call my people, we'll do brunch
 
2014-03-19 06:26:42 AM

GreenAdder: And what system? I've seen GURPS, Savage Worlds, D20 and other conversions.


One would think the go-to system would be World of Darkness, given that monster-fightin' in a pseudo-modern setting is what 90% of the mechanics and default setting are already dedicated to.

In fact, in second edition you can build a Ghost-buster as a player using the mage rules pretty easily whether the storyteller wants/allows it or not.
 
2014-03-19 07:12:44 AM

GreenAdder: Man, I had something written for this, and then I realized I had written about 15 paragraphs. This is a subject of great import to me. But here's the nuts-and-bolts of it:

The first movie was a hit because it had funny people doing funny things.
The second movie got too caught up in fan service, and they forgot to be quite as funny.
Dan Aykroyd is responsible for "Blue Brothers 2,000," which shows what happens when he's allowed to make fan service unhindered.
If a third movie absolutely must be made, Aykroyd should be closely supervised. New cast members should be funny (not modern-day SNL / sitcom "funny," but actually  funny), and blatant fan service / callbacks should be kept to a minimum.


Sadly, none of those directives will be followed.
 
2014-03-19 07:18:29 AM

eldritch2k4: no Moranis?


He shouldn't have been in the second movie!  Worst shoe-horned character in a movie I can remember!

If they do make a third, there is no reason why he, Dana OR Slimer should be in it.

They might as well wait a year, see how Star Wars brings back the original cast and if it works, do that.
 
2014-03-19 07:35:34 AM

buntz: eldritch2k4: no Moranis?

He shouldn't have been in the second movie!  Worst shoe-horned character in a movie I can remember!

If they do make a third, there is no reason why he, Dana OR Slimer should be in it.


Dana I could see being there, since there was the on-going thing with Venkman; no Venkman, no Dana. Slimer has no business in any movie that doesn't consider The Real Ghostbusters cartoon canon, which is, hopefully, any movie.

However, we're going to have to agree to disagree on Moranis. I can't place my finger on why, but since I was a child, I've always loved Rick Moranis and can't think of a movie with him that I didn't like. Except the later Honey movies, simply because they ran the concept into the ground.
 
2014-03-19 07:47:31 AM
uhhh, check your reading comprehension subby
 
2014-03-19 07:51:04 AM

eldritch2k4: However, we're going to have to agree to disagree on Moranis


Yes, he was funny in the first movie, but he had no place in the 2nd.  Peter and Egon alone were smart enough to not hire an accountant as their lawyer.  Changing his profession (sort of) to squeeze him in just felt forced!  And he didn't add anything to the film or have any purpose!

Dana's role was also forced (she can't seem to find an apartment in New York, can she? The slime picked HER tub?  The only baby in New York?)
If there was a  throw-away line that maybe Dana was more important than she realized which is why these things keep happening to HER....but there wasn't!
 
2014-03-19 07:54:14 AM

buntz: eldritch2k4: no Moranis?

He shouldn't have been in the second movie!  Worst shoe-horned character in a movie I can remember!


I agree he didn't have as much to do, but his performance in the courtroom was one of the funnier parts of the movie for me.
 
2014-03-19 08:15:52 AM
Let's be honest with ourselves; we all know where this is headed:

Michael Bay the Filmmaker.  He will make one of the pre-chosen films.  During the wreckage of Pearl Harbor, the producer made a large and slogging film! Then, during the third of the Transformers movie, Hollywood chose a (not so) new form for him: that of a big-budget director!  Many grips and extras knew what it was to be overworked in the depths of a film studio that day, I can tell you!
 
2014-03-19 08:26:11 AM

Great clown Pagliacci's pick-me-up: that bosnian sniper: GreenAdder: I agree with that, too. Dan Aykroyd's original Ghostbusters treatment would have been nigh-unfilmable. It took place in the future where every city had a squad of Ghostbusters - they were like firemen or police. There were five or six giant monsters in the film. The car flew. The containment unit was an old gas station in New Jersey, surrounded by laser beams. And on and on.

All of those ideas are possible now with the help of computer-generated imagery. This doesn't mean they're good ideas.  It was Reitman's idea to ground the movie in present day. Now that Reitman has relegated himself to producer status, I can only hope the new director is good enough to rein in Aykroyd's ideas.

With something like Ghostbusters, less is definitely more. Makes the truly out there or fantastic stuff all the funnier for it. Hell, I set up a Ghostbusters RPG game a few weeks ago in memoriam to Ramis, and the punchline was the paranormal disturbances were caused by a HOA who'd accidentally opened a gate to hell in the process of trying to scare off some shiatty residents.

Did you use the WEG Ghostbusters game? My god that was a great game. When we would play we would have to stop for several 15 minute breaks because we couldnt stop laughing, and was just a great deal of fun all around


I finally talked my friends into doing this for a night and we had a blast.  I've had the game since the late 80s or whatever, but never really had much of a chance for play.  The hardest part for these actual life lawyers and accountants had was to realize that you *can* do anything.  The rules are just that flexible and ignorable. It was difficult for them that there are no hard and fast rules that describe the exact bonus you get when jogging briskly (but not quite running) across partially broken ground at twilight when you carrying between 20 and 24lbs on your back in a non optimized backpack without a hard frame that is in new condition, but is still a factory second.
 
2014-03-19 08:44:16 AM
I'd be OK if they got Colbert and Oswalt involved.
 
2014-03-19 09:07:25 AM

Enomai: I'd be OK if they got Colbert and Oswalt involved.


Colbert grows a pompadour and I'd almost forgive them for recasting Egon.
 
2014-03-19 09:09:34 AM
So, it's going to be like Smokey and the Bandit 3.

I hate saying this: Maybe they should consider a horrible reboot instead.
 
2014-03-19 09:22:18 AM

buntz: eldritch2k4: However, we're going to have to agree to disagree on Moranis

Yes, he was funny in the first movie, but he had no place in the 2nd.  Peter and Egon alone were smart enough to not hire an accountant as their lawyer.  Changing his profession (sort of) to squeeze him in just felt forced!  And he didn't add anything to the film or have any purpose!

Dana's role was also forced (she can't seem to find an apartment in New York, can she? The slime picked HER tub?  The only baby in New York?)
If there was a  throw-away line that maybe Dana was more important than she realized which is why these things keep happening to HER....but there wasn't!


All they really had to say what that she had some sort of "Paranormal aura" or she was a "paranormal magnet" which attracted paranormal activities to her. And the bigger the activity... the stronger her aura / magnetic field became.
 
2014-03-19 09:26:11 AM
This is so dumb, I don't even...
 
2014-03-19 09:36:29 AM
This could be as good as Caddyshack II.
 
2014-03-19 09:41:47 AM

Cataholic: This could be as good as Caddyshack II.


That is literally the only movie I have ever walked out of in my entire life.
 
2014-03-19 09:47:01 AM

Great clown Pagliacci's pick-me-up: Did you use the WEG Ghostbusters game? My god that was a great game. When we would play we would have to stop for several 15 minute breaks because we couldnt stop laughing, and was just a great deal of fun all around


Yup, WEG. Hilariously awesome, I was explaining the mechanics to a friend (we're currently playing WEG Star Wars D6 so it wasn't a stretch, but still) and we laughed for a good ten minutes there's actually a talent for cooking hot dogs.
 
2014-03-19 09:56:58 AM

buntz: eldritch2k4: However, we're going to have to agree to disagree on Moranis

Yes, he was funny in the first movie, but he had no place in the 2nd.  Peter and Egon alone were smart enough to not hire an accountant as their lawyer.  Changing his profession (sort of) to squeeze him in just felt forced!  And he didn't add anything to the film or have any purpose!

Dana's role was also forced (she can't seem to find an apartment in New York, can she? The slime picked HER tub?  The only baby in New York?)
If there was a  throw-away line that maybe Dana was more important than she realized which is why these things keep happening to HER....but there wasn't!


I just assumed it was because of the possession by Zuul, perhaps it made her/the baby an easier target.

/Or was just sort of the ectoplasmic equivalent of a tracer round. "POSSESSION SUSCEPTIBLE HUMAN HERE."
 
2014-03-19 09:57:42 AM

AcademGreen: So, it's going to be like Smokey and the Bandit 3.

I hate saying this: Maybe they should consider a horrible reboot instead.


At this point a sequel in name only works. The original cast isn't involved, and maybe Aykroyd makes a cameo to explain what happened to everybody. Otherwise it's a new crew with new problems.

/Bill Murray is right to not be involved.
//Harold Ramis was almost 70 when he died.
///You can't tell me that you'd want to see geriatric Ghostbusters.
 
2014-03-19 10:08:48 AM

eldritch2k4: Enomai: I'd be OK if they got Colbert and Oswalt involved.

Colbert grows a pompadour and I'd almost forgive them for recasting Egon.


Colbert is almost age appropriate to be Egon, Jr.

Stantz is still running his esoteric bookstore, Zeddemore manages the new team, and the new team is Colbert + Oswalt + Harrelson (BFM seems to like him so maybe he'll cameo) + Cheadle and I'd watch it.
 
2014-03-19 10:09:06 AM

AcademGreen: So, it's going to be like Smokey and the Bandit 3.

I hate saying this: Maybe they should consider a horrible reboot instead.


img.fark.net
 
2014-03-19 10:23:49 AM

Enomai: eldritch2k4: Enomai: I'd be OK if they got Colbert and Oswalt involved.

Colbert grows a pompadour and I'd almost forgive them for recasting Egon.

Colbert is almost age appropriate to be Egon, Jr.

Stantz is still running his esoteric bookstore, Zeddemore manages the new team, and the new team is Colbert + Oswalt + Harrelson (BFM seems to like him so maybe he'll cameo) + Cheadle and I'd watch it.


This is a great idea that will never, ever happen. :(
 
2014-03-19 10:29:57 AM
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