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2014-03-18 01:21:23 PM  
So was France... they are also considering pulling the plug on some helicopter carriers.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/18/ukraine-crisis-russia-fran ce -idUSL6N0MF2HH20140318
 
2014-03-18 02:55:21 PM  
Did France surrender yet?
 
2014-03-18 02:55:24 PM  
We'd, probably, still be selling arms to Libya if it weren't for that whole Benghazi thing.
 
2014-03-18 02:55:46 PM  

in other news Britain has been arming Russia


What an arms dealer might look like:

gnews.com
 
2014-03-18 02:59:27 PM  
Just remember, we need these guys to get us to the ISS and back for at least another year.
 
2014-03-18 03:03:43 PM  
www.obsessionistas.co.uk
 
2014-03-18 03:04:38 PM  
I had a feeling Rick Allen was involved in some sort of arms trade.
 
2014-03-18 03:05:05 PM  
This is not a repeat from the late 1940s:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Nene#Service_use
 
2014-03-18 03:07:14 PM  

cgraves67: Just remember, we need these guys to get us to the ISS and back for at least another year.


We can only hope that science and politics won't interfere with one another.

I mean, really...  The scientists involved in that project have no political agenda.  What they are doing is for the benefit of all humankind.  I'm sure they would be the first to pray for a day when it is a privately funded initiative, and politics wouldn't come into play at all.
 
2014-03-18 03:09:33 PM  

durbnpoisn: cgraves67: Just remember, we need these guys to get us to the ISS and back for at least another year.

We can only hope that science and politics won't interfere with one another.

I mean, really...  The scientists involved in that project have no political agenda.  What they are doing is for the benefit of all humankind.  I'm sure they would be the first to pray for a day when it is a privately funded initiative, and politics wouldn't come into play at all.


I remember someone pointing out that while the economics departments at universities taught diametrically opposed theories, the scientists were always in agreement. At least after they got rid if that silly Lysenkoism.
 
2014-03-18 03:15:27 PM  
The article seems kind of thin on what 'arms' the UK is halting.     Seems like that would be a helpful tidbit to include.
 
2014-03-18 03:22:55 PM  

netcentric: The article seems kind of thin on what 'arms' the UK is halting.     Seems like that would be a helpful tidbit to include.


http://www.bbc.com/news/business-26612848

BBC is reporting it's...get ready....cloth for uniforms, radios, visors, nuts, and bolts. Putin will cave tomorrow.
 
2014-03-18 03:24:18 PM  
It's almost like a Great Game to them...
 
2014-03-18 03:28:29 PM  
Yea, outrage. Because we would never sell arms to Russia, or anyone without a darn good reason... especially if there are two sides in a conflict and both need arms. We would never do anything like that.

/pot and kettle again...
 
2014-03-18 03:36:41 PM  
But the Churchill III is a PREMIUM tank!  That stuff costs real Gold.

/oh wait, this isn't a World of Tanks thread?
/it is now....
 
2014-03-18 03:39:38 PM  

cyber_slacker: Did France surrender yet?


Yes. See: the post right above yours.

kbronsito: So was France... they are also considering pulling the plug on some helicopter carriers.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/18/ukraine-crisis-russia-fran ce -idUSL6N0MF2HH20140318


"French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius raised the possibility on Monday of scrapping the deal depending on further sanctions against Moscow over its seizure of Ukraine's Crimea region, but later said he was only considering delaying it."

"France's foreign ministry also backed down on comments made earlier by Fabius saying Russia had been suspended from the G8.

"We are suspending our work and our participation in the G8 as has already been announced," spokesman Romain Nadal told reporters, referring to the scheduled G8 Summit in Sochi in June. "That's what the minister meant.""


A bit later than expected, but no less of a surrender.

/And these guys have a Veto power on the UN Security council. HA!
 
2014-03-18 03:40:02 PM  

Agatha Crispy: netcentric: The article seems kind of thin on what 'arms' the UK is halting.     Seems like that would be a helpful tidbit to include.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-26612848

BBC is reporting it's...get ready....cloth for uniforms, radios, visors, nuts, and bolts. Putin will cave tomorrow.


Whoa.... I see what you mean.    Cloth, visors, bolts etc....    the Kremlin is probably frantic tonight.

I also Googled a report that  Peru may with hold sales of shoelaces,   Cote De Voir is possibly threatening to stop shipments of mints and pistachios.        Russia will rue the day...
 
2014-03-18 03:49:10 PM  

netcentric: Agatha Crispy: netcentric: The article seems kind of thin on what 'arms' the UK is halting.     Seems like that would be a helpful tidbit to include.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-26612848

BBC is reporting it's...get ready....cloth for uniforms, radios, visors, nuts, and bolts. Putin will cave tomorrow.

Whoa.... I see what you mean.    Cloth, visors, bolts etc....    the Kremlin is probably frantic tonight.

I also Googled a report that  Peru may with hold sales of shoelaces,   Cote De Voir is possibly threatening to stop shipments of mints and pistachios.        Russia will rue the day...


Laugh now but the UK is threatening to half shipments of McVities biscuits and Twinings Christmas Tea so this could escalate pretty fast....
 
2014-03-18 03:54:18 PM  

Agent Nick Fury: netcentric: Agatha Crispy: netcentric: The article seems kind of thin on what 'arms' the UK is halting.     Seems like that would be a helpful tidbit to include.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-26612848

BBC is reporting it's...get ready....cloth for uniforms, radios, visors, nuts, and bolts. Putin will cave tomorrow.

Whoa.... I see what you mean.    Cloth, visors, bolts etc....    the Kremlin is probably frantic tonight.

I also Googled a report that  Peru may with hold sales of shoelaces,   Cote De Voir is possibly threatening to stop shipments of mints and pistachios.        Russia will rue the day...

Laugh now but the UK is threatening to half shipments of McVities biscuits and Twinings Christmas Tea so this could escalate pretty fast....


You are right.

This thing does appear to be quiet now, but as you said,  if Putin doesn't buckle this thing could escalate to the US locking his NetFlix account....
 
2014-03-18 03:54:32 PM  
in which decisions are accelerated to reduce European dependence on Russian energy exports

Better start fracking.
 
2014-03-18 03:56:19 PM  

cgraves67: Just remember, we need these guys to get us to the ISS and back for at least another year.


What happens in a year?
 
2014-03-18 03:57:45 PM  
Britain will draw Pooty-Poot's attention to the little red button on the bottom of each gun.
 
2014-03-18 03:59:36 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: This is not a repeat from the late 1940s:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Nene#Service_use


Russia reneged?  Who knew?
 
2014-03-18 04:01:30 PM  
We're not doing the "somebody shoots somebody in Crimea" story?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26637296

"Oops", as the Archduke said
 
2014-03-18 04:16:25 PM  
What a UK-made weapon exported to Russia might look like:

www.outflankers.com
 
2014-03-18 04:30:05 PM  

kbronsito: So was France... they are also considering pulling the plug on some helicopter carriers.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/18/ukraine-crisis-russia-fran ce -idUSL6N0MF2HH20140318


Well, based on France's track record with selling arms they'll wait until they think nobody's looking and sell them anyway.
 
2014-03-18 04:35:59 PM  
I keep hoping for this...

dl.dropboxusercontent.com

...But I keep seeing this.

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-18 04:40:11 PM  

payattention: Yea, outrage. Because we would never sell arms to Russia, or anyone without a darn good reason... especially if there are two sides in a conflict and both need arms. We would never do anything like that.

/pot and kettle again...


I don't think anyone here is saying that America doesn't arm countries.
 
2014-03-18 04:41:51 PM  

CoolHandLucas: What a UK-made weapon exported to Russia might look like:

[www.outflankers.com image 850x238]


That is one of the finest small arms that have been made.  The scope looks 'merican though.  Have you shot one?  I have my poor mans Rem 700 AICS .308 version or my TRG-42 .338 because I couldn't spend the money on a $8,000 rifle.
 
2014-03-18 04:44:42 PM  

strangeguitar: I had a feeling Rick Allen was involved in some sort of arms trade.


although most won't, amegeddonit. a really geddonit.

/cmon steve
 
2014-03-18 04:45:19 PM  

Medic Zero: cgraves67: Just remember, we need these guys to get us to the ISS and back for at least another year.

What happens in a year?


The Dragon capsule should be ready for a human payload.

netcentric:

I also Googled a report that  Peru may with hold sales of shoelaces,   Cote De Voir d'Ivoire is possibly threatening to stop shipments of mints and pistachios.

FTFY

/it's "Ivory Coast" in French
 
2014-03-18 04:47:46 PM  
There is no country in the world that the UK won't sell arms to.
 
2014-03-18 04:53:12 PM  

netcentric: You are right.

This thing does appear to be quiet now, but as you said,  if Putin doesn't buckle this thing could escalate to the US locking his NetFlix account....


Hold the presses.. Borowitz reports Putin's Netflix account is nyet.

U.S. FREEZES PUTIN'S NETFLIX ACCOUNT

 http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2014/03/us-fre eze s-putins-netflix-account.html
 
2014-03-18 04:55:53 PM  

Spuddy345: There is no country in the world that the UKUS/Russia/Germany/France won't sell arms to.

 
2014-03-18 05:20:14 PM  
What about Plutonium export to Britain?
 
2014-03-18 05:39:57 PM  

Spuddy345: There is no country in the world that the UK won't sell arms to.


The world's biggest economies are some of the world's biggest arms exporters.
 
2014-03-18 06:17:14 PM  
 
2014-03-18 06:29:44 PM  
I always 'love it' when it turns out that our allies have been selling our potential enemies weapons to possibly use against us.

But, then again, I wonder how many military toys we've sold to potential enemies of our allies also. When it comes to big business, lines are not clearly drawn. During WW2, there were a couple of US companies who were secretly selling supplies to the enemy. After all, it was 'just business'.

Now, consider all of the heavy duty military trucks and vehicles along with other non-weapon supplies we're leaving behind in Iraq. Too expensive to ship them all home -- so we'll abandon them. Either that or the car makers don't want cheap, surplus, strongly built military vehicles available to the general public.

After WW2, you could buy a jeep for $50 and one of those huge, iconic military trucks for maybe $100. I bought bayonets for $5.00 and a 9mm mauser for $30. Army helmets were about $2.00.
 
2014-03-18 06:38:52 PM  

cgraves67: Just remember, we need these guys to get us to the ISS and back for at least another year.


Because who knows what kind of terrible things would happen if we couldn't visit the ISS.
 
2014-03-18 06:39:41 PM  

cyber_slacker: Did France surrender yet?


Not likely, they never do.
 
2014-03-18 06:44:40 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: kbronsito: So was France... they are also considering pulling the plug on some helicopter carriers.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/18/ukraine-crisis-russia-fran ce -idUSL6N0MF2HH20140318

Well, based on France's track record with selling arms they'll wait until they think nobody's looking and sell them anyway.


What's interesting is that Russia couldn't build those carriers themselves.
 
2014-03-19 12:05:10 AM  

puckrock2000: Medic Zero: cgraves67: Just remember, we need these guys to get us to the ISS and back for at least another year.

What happens in a year?

The Dragon capsule should be ready for a human payload.

netcentric:

I also Googled a report that  Peru may with hold sales of shoelaces,   Cote De Voir d'Ivoire is possibly threatening to stop shipments of mints and pistachios.

FTFY

/it's "Ivory Coast" in French


Thanks!
 
2014-03-19 10:24:36 AM  

RocketRay: To The Escape Zeppelin!: kbronsito: So was France... they are also considering pulling the plug on some helicopter carriers.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/18/ukraine-crisis-russia-fran ce -idUSL6N0MF2HH20140318

Well, based on France's track record with selling arms they'll wait until they think nobody's looking and sell them anyway.

What's interesting is that Russia couldn't build those carriers themselves.


Hard to say that in this globalized economy. You could say "What's interesting is that the USA couldn't build their own computers." or "What's interesting is that France couldn't create their own clothes." or "What's interesting is that Australia couldn't grow its own coffee and tea." when the real answer for most of those is "They can do it cheaper somewhere else."

Maybe Russia chose to build them in France because it was cheaper for them. Or could be that they built them in France because the person in charge of getting them built has a financial interest in the French company doing the building, so he gets a personal kickback from the deal by way of his stock value rising.

And yes, maybe there wasn't enough Russian skill in that particular profession to build new ships - which I would hope is the case, for the sake of Europe. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see if other EU nations decide not to build arms for Russia anymore and let the Russians do it themselves.

/And yes, I managed to type that last sentence with a straight face. I'm rather proud of myself for that.
 
2014-03-19 10:53:45 AM  

Techhell: Hard to say that in this globalized economy. You could say "What's interesting is that the USA couldn't build their own computers." or "What's interesting is that France couldn't create their own clothes." or "What's interesting is that Australia couldn't grow its own coffee and tea." when the real answer for most of those is "They can do it cheaper somewhere else."


When it  comes to defense, do you really think a strong country would allow important, expensive things like aircraft carriers to be built by foreigners?  They can go change their mind and mess up your arsenal, just like France is about to do to Russia.
 
2014-03-19 03:58:15 PM  
Britain arms other countries...potential enemies, and still confiscates guns from private citizens?

/just had an anyeurism
//cold dead hands
 
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