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(Salon)   It is time to take Rand Paul seriously. Why are you laughing? Stop that   (salon.com) divider line 179
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2014-03-18 01:19:12 PM
First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.

- Aqua Buddha
 
2014-03-18 01:22:06 PM
I'd love to see Randal Paul fielding foreign policy questions at the GOP debate clown shows.
 
2014-03-18 01:24:28 PM

JerseyTim: I'd love to see Randal Paul fielding foreign policy questions at the GOP debate clown shows.


His dad said that we should certify the Crimea vote and let Russia take it.
 
2014-03-18 01:36:22 PM
This is what they've got:

images.politico.com
 
2014-03-18 01:39:17 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: This is what they've got:

[images.politico.com image 605x328]


What about Christie? He could probably run on the fact that he stuck it to the libs by shutting down the bridge. It might get him through the primaries.
 
2014-03-18 01:41:38 PM
nmrsnr:

What about Christie? He could probably run on the fact that he stuck it to the libs by shutting down the bridge. It might get him through the primaries.

I couldn't fit him in the picture.
 
2014-03-18 01:42:18 PM
I'm mostly laughing at the idea Chris Cilizza is an authority on this issue.
 
2014-03-18 01:45:10 PM
RAND PAUL!!1!!'s taking the GOP nomination at first ballot at the convention seems unlikely. However, it seems very unlikely for any other GOP candidate to do so, either; he seems likely to come in with a decent block of delegates; and he seems viable as a compromise candidate between the Moneycon and Theocon wings of the GOP.
 
2014-03-18 01:49:09 PM
Look at the other GOP hopefuls. Rand Paul is a better candidate than Cruz or Trump or Palin or Cain.

In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
 
2014-03-18 01:52:12 PM
On the plus side, if Paul wins the nomination, it will extend the GOP's "haven't elected a President who wasn't a beneficiary of political nepotism" streak to 32 years, at the least. And in that period I think McCain and Dole are the only nominees who didn't have the same benefit.
 
2014-03-18 01:57:55 PM

Cagey B: First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.

- Aqua Buddha Rand Paul

 
2014-03-18 01:59:04 PM

DamnYankees: think McCain


You mean the son of Admiral McCain? His dad wasn't a politician, but that doesn't mean his name didn't carry serious weight with politicians.
 
2014-03-18 02:01:05 PM

nmrsnr: DamnYankees: think McCain

You mean the son of Admiral McCain? His dad wasn't a politician, but that doesn't mean his name didn't carry serious weight with politicians.


I was trying to be generous.
 
2014-03-18 02:14:02 PM

nmrsnr: Because People in power are Stupid: This is what they've got:

[images.politico.com image 605x328]

What about Christie? He could probably run on the fact that he stuck it to the libs by shutting down the bridge. It might get him through the primaries.


yeah, but he still shook hands and hugged Obama.  that makes him icky.
 
2014-03-18 02:56:39 PM
RAND PAUL
 
2014-03-18 02:58:33 PM
Didn't Rick Santorum lead in some early poll in 2012? Maybe we should still take him seriously.
 
2014-03-18 03:01:26 PM
"It is time to take Rand Paul seriously."

-Rand Paul
 
2014-03-18 03:01:51 PM

yakmans_dad: Didn't Rick Santorum lead in some early poll in 2012? Maybe we should still take him seriously.


It's kind of his turn.
 
2014-03-18 03:02:38 PM
If RANDPAUL takes a higher percentage of delegates than Supreme Leader Paul, I'll take him seriously.

Proud Papa never got more than 5-10%, correct? (Though for some reason, I keep thinking 22% was the high water-mark.)
 
2014-03-18 03:03:36 PM
Rand Paul is serious business. Rand Paul certified, Rand Paul approved.
 
2014-03-18 03:05:05 PM
Oh, he thinks he has a shot? Someone ask him his opinion on the Civil Rights Act again
 
2014-03-18 03:05:17 PM
I'd love to see Rand Paul be the nominee and come down to the left of the Democratic candidate with regards to foreign policy, surveillance state, and the drug war.
 
2014-03-18 03:06:02 PM

MattStafford: I'd love to see Rand Paul be the nominee and come down to the left of the Democratic candidate with regards to foreign policy, surveillance state, and the drug war.


Doesn't have to.

FREE RUSS FEINGOLD!
 
2014-03-18 03:06:36 PM

Cagey B: First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.

- Aqua Buddha


They laughed at Galileo that's true. But they also laughed at Bozo the clown.

   -Rand Paul
 
2014-03-18 03:07:52 PM
I'm super cereal about RAND PAUL1
 
2014-03-18 03:07:53 PM
Just wondering, why would someone name their kid after South African currency?
 
2014-03-18 03:09:24 PM
For comparison, here's an AUG2010 version of this poll.  CNN/ORC was right about Romney getting the nomination, but considering that whole field of candidates was a clown convention and RMoney was more robot that clown, that makes sense.

Huntsman was the only sane, reasonable GOP choice, so of course he had no chance whatsoever.
 
2014-03-18 03:11:30 PM
You mean like the other Paul who has been running on the same platform for the last 16 years?
 
2014-03-18 03:12:16 PM
memecrunch.com
 
2014-03-18 03:13:16 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-03-18 03:15:23 PM

vernonFL: Look at the other GOP hopefuls. Rand Paul is a better candidate than Cruz or Trump or Palin or Cain.

In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.


I think "In the land of the brain-dead, the brain-damaged man is king" is a little more accurate.
 
2014-03-18 03:15:32 PM

Aquapope: For comparison, here's an AUG2010 version of this poll.  CNN/ORC was right about Romney getting the nomination, but considering that whole field of candidates was a clown convention and RMoney was more robot that clown, that makes sense.

Huntsman was the only sane, reasonable GOP choice, so of course he had no chance whatsoever.


IIRC, Romney's won the CPAC straw poll more times than anyone else, and something like 5 of the last 7.
 
2014-03-18 03:17:06 PM
Well, my days of not taking you seriously are definitely coming to a middle.
 
2014-03-18 03:17:31 PM
I actually am. I am afraid that he has the best shot Republicans have for the White House.

Also what is scary to me is I know lots of people who wrongly think he is a social liberal and anti-government intrusion. (which he is not)
 
2014-03-18 03:18:15 PM
Did Randall's made-up panel of experts tell us to take him seriously?
 
2014-03-18 03:19:12 PM

MattStafford: I'd love to see Rand Paul be the nominee and come down to the left of the Democratic candidate with regards to foreign policy, surveillance state, and the drug war.


You mean the Rand Paul that thinks we should be able to use drones to blow someone up INSIDE the United States if we believe he is a terrorist? That one.

He also believes drugs should be illegal too.
 
2014-03-18 03:20:07 PM
It's time to take Vermin Supreme seriously.
 
2014-03-18 03:27:13 PM
Well in a way he has a point.  I do not mean the policies or ideas of RAND PAUL, but rather the politician RAND PAUL, as in he has just enough credibility and support to be dangerous.  That meaning something could happen where the nation farks up and elects him to a position where he can enact his dangerous ideas as policy.  Sure he might not be able to beat Hillary Clinton, but what about afterwards?  He is young.  He needs to be taken seriously now and exposed for the radical nutcase (like his father) he is so he doesn't fool enough Americans to think he is a rational and viable choice for POTUS.

Someone with the enthusiastic misinformed base taken from his dad with a charade of credibility could be dangerous for America.
 
2014-03-18 03:30:44 PM
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they ignore you... hey! Somebody fight me.
-Rand Paul
 
2014-03-18 03:31:14 PM
Republicans could do worse than a Rand Paul nomination, like if they decided to completely ignore the libertarian leaning section of their base and instead embraced the fundy crazies full bore.

I'd like to hear more about what Ryan has to say, but so far those are the only two breaking out of the herd that interest me at the moment.
 
2014-03-18 03:34:37 PM

CanisNoir: Republicans could do worse than a Rand Paul nomination


His anti-military stance is a non-starter in the general election
 
2014-03-18 03:36:13 PM

DamnYankees: On the plus side, if Paul wins the nomination, it will extend the GOP's "haven't elected a President who wasn't a beneficiary of political nepotism" streak to 32 years, at the least. And in that period I think McCain and Dole are the only nominees who didn't have the same benefit.


Agree. That's why it's important that we elect only people who don't know their father and that no one from their past recollects anything about that person. That way, no political nepotism.
 
2014-03-18 03:36:42 PM

CanisNoir: Republicans could do worse than a Rand Paul nomination.


Boy, if that's not a sad commentary on the state of the Republicans, I don't know what is.
 
2014-03-18 03:38:17 PM

monoski: CanisNoir: Republicans could do worse than a Rand Paul nomination

His anti-military stance is a non-starter in the general election


I have a feeling this is less true than it used to be. Not a strong one, as the hawks'll likely beat the Crimea/Russia drum until November (if not beyond), but the fact that there's a sizable chunk of the GOP that wants to cut military spending gives me hope.

// wait, you're closing a base in WHICH district?
// fark that, gimme MOAR
 
2014-03-18 03:42:57 PM
The only reason Rand Paul is getting any traction is because there are a significant number of conservatives who realize that the GOP is broken beyond repair, but don't want to vote for democrats.  So they buy into libertarianism because hey, the less government we have the less the GOP (and to a lesser extend dems) can screw it up!

Unfortunately, that's a ridiculously irresponsible and naive view of libertarianism (which itself is an incredibly naive and irresponsible philosophy) and what RAND PAUL stands for.
 
2014-03-18 03:43:39 PM
It's time to stop taking Chris Cilliza seriously.
 
2014-03-18 03:44:02 PM
Chris Clizza?  Sounds like a probationary member of the Wu Tang Clan that gets to sweep up after they have a recording session but never gets to be on the record.
 
2014-03-18 03:44:26 PM

Bareefer Obonghit: "It is time to take Rand Paul seriously."

-Rand Paul


No, it's not
- Kelley Paul
 
2014-03-18 03:46:41 PM

Dr Dreidel: // wait, you're closing a base in WHICH district?
// fark that, gimme MOAR


I think by and large more Republicans are fine with cutting back on military spending, it's, as you point out, once the money and jobs start leaving individual districts that you get push back, and unfortunatley that's equal regardless of which side of the aisle you're on.
 
2014-03-18 03:49:10 PM

Corvus: I actually am. I am afraid that he has the best shot Republicans have for the White House.

Also what is scary to me is I know lots of people who wrongly think he is a social liberal and anti-government intrusion. (which he is not)


You ain't just spitting grits. But, people will fall for him, assuming he's like his old man. He's not even close.
 
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