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(The Local)   Taking a selfie while standing on top of a train near a live electrical cable is probably not the smartest idea ever   (thelocal.es) divider line 62
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2014-03-18 06:28:27 AM
I am flabbergasted at how many contenders there already are for the 2014 darwins.
 
2014-03-18 08:42:41 AM
while standing on top of a train

Who else expected a story from India?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-03-18 08:43:13 AM
Where's the picture?  Did he catch the gout of fire coming from his head, because that would be a cool selfie.
 
2014-03-18 09:05:10 AM
oh long johnson.

/anything involving selfies and trains.
 
2014-03-18 09:31:54 AM

gopher321: while standing on top of a train

Who else expected a story from India?


Me, I was shocked that it wasn't.
 
2014-03-18 09:33:08 AM
That wasn't very bright. Well, maybe it was, but just for a second or so.
 
2014-03-18 09:33:09 AM
Why not? It's a self correcting problem.
 
2014-03-18 09:33:16 AM
Wonder why they always mention volts..  It's not the volts that kill you it's the amps.
 
2014-03-18 09:34:19 AM
Take me, Spanish caravan, yes I know you can.
 
2014-03-18 09:35:11 AM
Ay, carumba!
 
2014-03-18 09:39:25 AM
Cu later!
 
2014-03-18 09:39:54 AM

gopher321: while standing on top of a train

Who else expected a story from India?


Chal chaiyya chaiyya chaiyya chaiyya
 
2014-03-18 09:40:48 AM
here today, Juan tomorrow.
 
OGC
2014-03-18 09:41:08 AM
Will the friend be charged with trespassing, or just electricity?
 
2014-03-18 09:41:26 AM
"Andújar's mayor has declared three days of mourning chuckling quietly for the town of 40,000 people in the middle of olive growing country. "
 
2014-03-18 09:42:16 AM

mrlewish: Wonder why they always mention volts..  It's not the volts that kill you it's the amps.


He'll be fine. Trains don't use many of those amps.

/ I=V/R
 
2014-03-18 09:42:38 AM
3 days of mourning for this?

Should be 3 days of celebrating the gene pool getting a little cleaner.
 
2014-03-18 09:45:31 AM

Sonneillon: "Andújar's mayor has declared three days of mourning chuckling quietly for the town of 40,000 people in the middle of olive growing country. "


If we had to mourn for three days every time some clueless twit accidentally killed himself, we'd probably have a tissue shortage.

/there's always a tissue shortage in my house anyway
 
2014-03-18 09:46:35 AM
Well he won't make that mistake again.
 
2014-03-18 09:46:39 AM

Pangit: 3 days of mourning for this?

Should be 3 days of celebrating the gene pool getting a little cleaner.


Don't fret, boys like that usually have at least 1 child at an early age. His dna is already out there.
 
2014-03-18 09:46:44 AM

mrlewish: Wonder why they always mention volts..  It's not the volts that kill you it's the amps.


I don't know how many ohms they ohmed before they decided to climb the train, but the voltage amped quickly. - Tesla

/I'm not really sure if the train is AC or DC, but why not make Edison proud.
 
2014-03-18 09:46:51 AM

mrlewish: Wonder why they always mention volts..  It's not the volts that kill you it's the amps.


Because the number of volts typically is a bigger, more impressive number than the number of amps.
 
2014-03-18 09:46:55 AM

Pangit: 3 days of mourning for this?

Should be 3 days of celebrating the gene pool getting a little cleaner.


As cruel and heartless as that sounds, I have to agree.
 
2014-03-18 09:47:29 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-18 09:49:49 AM

mrlewish: Wonder why they always mention volts..  It's not the volts that kill you it's the amps.


True, but we don't know exactly how many amps he received.  We do know the exact voltage (3,500V) and from that we can make a pretty decent estimate of how lethal that is to a human.

Telling your readers "something over 250mA" isn't something a reader is going to get.
 
2014-03-18 09:50:56 AM

zulius: gopher321: while standing on top of a train

Who else expected a story from India?

Me, I was shocked that it wasn't.


*Raises hand*
Me too.
 
2014-03-18 09:50:59 AM
One thing I won't forget is that you don't have to touch HV lines, just be close enough for them to arc over. Same story. A freight car was parked underneath one, youngster decides to try the top of the boxcar for a stunning view.

He didn't die but suffered burns, and since it was parked out in the open,his lawyers went for Attractive Nuisance  and that the RR company should have known the wire was live and this was going to happen.

/Burn unit spending money I calls it.
 
2014-03-18 09:52:12 AM
31.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-03-18 09:53:04 AM
I was expecting something like this.
Warning, graphic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI6btIQdu5U
 
2014-03-18 09:53:15 AM

mrlewish: Wonder why they always mention volts..  It's not the volts that kill you it's the amps.


I'm gonna guess because the Idiocracy class has never heard of these so-called "amps" and voltage is synonymous with "amount of electricity".
 
2014-03-18 09:56:18 AM

Cerebral Ballsy: I'm gonna guess because the Idiocracy class has never heard of these so-called "amps" and voltage is synonymous with "amount of electricity".


You should probably guess "It's kinda hard to meter the amount of current in an arc flash."
 
2014-03-18 09:56:40 AM

lemortede: I was expecting something like this.
Warning, graphic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI6btIQdu5U



petenelson.com
 
2014-03-18 10:00:46 AM

fluffy2097: Cerebral Ballsy: I'm gonna guess because the Idiocracy class has never heard of these so-called "amps" and voltage is synonymous with "amount of electricity".

You should probably guess "It's kinda hard to meter the amount of current in an arc flash."


Nope, I'm still going with my answer. Even if you could determine exact amperage, the sad fact is that most people don't understand basic electrical science, and news articles are written to a sixth grade level or below.
 
2014-03-18 10:06:38 AM
There are so many truths hidden in this headline.

Taking a selfie while standing on top of a train near a live electrical cable is probably not the smartest idea ever

Taking a selfie while standing on top of a train near a live electrical cable is probably not the smartest idea ever

Taking a selfie while standing on top of a train near a live electrical cable is probably not the smartest idea ever
 
2014-03-18 10:06:51 AM

Cerebral Ballsy: Nope, I'm still going with my answer. Even if you could determine exact amperage, the sad fact is that most people don't understand basic electrical science, and news articles are written to a sixth grade level or below.


It's because Voltage is the only known value in the equation.

The overhead tram lines provide more or less unlimited current as far as killing people goes. It's got enough current to move entire trains full of people in those wires. There is no way to tell how many amps of current were used to kill this man because of other loads on the wire.

What is known, is the voltage the overhead cables work at.

So the news article uses the voltage, because otherwise they just have to say "quite a lot of electricity."
 
2014-03-18 10:10:09 AM
Repeat after me:
The redneck in Spain stands neatly on top of the train
 
2014-03-18 10:12:35 AM

Cerebral Ballsy: the sad fact is that most people don't understand basic electrical science


Why is that sad?   What bearing does that have in a normal persons life?
 
2014-03-18 10:12:53 AM

mrlewish: Wonder why they always mention volts..  It's not the volts that kill you it's the amps.


Especially when the amps go to eleven!

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-18 10:13:11 AM

mrlewish: Wonder why they always mention volts..  It's not the volts that kill you it's the amps.


The number is higher, so it sounds more impressive.

/Danger: One million ohms
 
2014-03-18 10:15:36 AM

lemortede: I was expecting something like this.
Warning, graphic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI6btIQdu5U



I'm shocked that you posted that link
 
2014-03-18 10:16:56 AM

Rapmaster2000: True, but we don't know exactly how many amps he received. We do know the exact voltage (3,500V) and from that we can make a pretty decent estimate of how lethal that is to a human.

Telling your readers "something over 250mA" isn't something a reader is going to get.


This.  And why do we go through this every single time we have a story about electric shock?  Reporters aren't typically well versed in these things and they're writing for an audience who isn't either.  Just nod and roll with.  Being pedantic is not the way to higher ground.
 
2014-03-18 10:24:10 AM

lemortede: I was expecting something like this.
Warning, graphic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI6btIQdu5U


If you're gonna go,
give a show,
and go with glow.
Burma Shave.
 
2014-03-18 10:24:45 AM
Also: Inducted into the Darwin Hall of Shame.
 
2014-03-18 10:30:49 AM
upload.wikimedia.org

♪  Oppa  Gangnam Darwin Style!

Now if someone can design a gif with Psy's face replaced by Darwin's.......
 
2014-03-18 10:33:39 AM

Rapmaster2000: True, but we don't know exactly how many amps he received.  We do know the exact voltage (3,500V) and from that we can make a pretty decent estimate of how lethal that is to a human.


Actually, it was "3,5000" volts.
 
2014-03-18 10:38:44 AM
So he was trying to take a selfie as the train's conductor?
 
2014-03-18 10:42:56 AM

lack of warmth: /I'm not really sure if the train is AC or DC, but why not make Edison proud.


Trains usually run on DC that's rectified from the AC overhead. 3,500V is bad, but try that on an Amtrak and you'll get 12kV.
 
2014-03-18 10:50:32 AM

mrlewish: Wonder why they always mention volts..  It's not the volts that kill you it's the amps.


Considering that the resistance of a human is dependent on many factors, it's difficult to determine what amperage they were accommodating at the time they got bar-b-qued. The voltage is much easier to determine.

Technically, I think a "AA" battery can supply .2 amps (which is enough to fibrillate your heart), but considering your high resistance and the battery's negligible 1.5v, it isn't likely to kill you.

I had a friend who hooked several supposedly mostly dead 9v batteries in series and touched it to his tongue. When he came to, he discovered that he'd pissed his pants. He must have learned something from the experience because now he's an electrical engineer.
 
GBB
2014-03-18 10:51:21 AM
I found the selfie

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-18 10:55:05 AM
3,5000-volt ?
 
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