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(Huffington Post)   UFO conspiracy theorist arrested for child porn, surprises no one when he blames it all on a government conspiracy   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 122
    More: Fail, Stan Romanek, UFO, Loveland Police Department, conspiracy theorists, Detective Brian Koopman, child pornography, peer-to-peer networks, limewire  
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2014-03-17 07:02:19 PM  
The following May, the case was passed off to the Loveland Police. Detective Paul Arreola said he was unsure how to proceed because, at the time, his department did not deal in internet crimes.

There may be something darker surrounding this story.
 
2014-03-17 07:13:17 PM  
When reached for comment, Stan Romanek told HuffPost, "I can't speak because I have a head injury, and it probably wouldn't make sense to you."

There's some kind of brain damage involved, that's for sure.
 
2014-03-17 07:46:55 PM  
l.wigflip.com
 
2014-03-17 07:47:11 PM  
Detective Paul Arreola

Heh.
Paul.
 
2014-03-17 07:50:57 PM  

shanrick: The following May, the case was passed off to the Loveland Police. Detective Paul Arreola said he was unsure how to proceed because, at the time, his department did not deal in internet crimes.

There may be something darker surrounding this story.


I'm glad the detective nipped this in the bud.
 
2014-03-17 07:53:19 PM  
Loveland Police. Detective Paul Arreola

That's just too much considering the topic.
 
2014-03-17 07:57:18 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: shanrick: The following May, the case was passed off to the Loveland Police. Detective Paul Arreola said he was unsure how to proceed because, at the time, his department did not deal in internet crimes.

There may be something darker surrounding this story.

I'm glad the detective nipped this in the bud.


I don't think it will stand up in a court of law.
 
2014-03-17 07:57:58 PM  
Bill&Ted.jpg

This is huge.
 
2014-03-17 07:58:03 PM  
Understandable when you realize the Freemasons were founded in order to get the Chitauri a consistent supply of quality child porn.

/study it out
 
2014-03-17 07:59:35 PM  

omeganuepsilon: Loveland Police. Detective Paul Arreola

That's just too much considering the topic.


LOL, came here to say this. Looks like the entire internet pretty much beat me to it... :-)
 
2014-03-17 08:00:30 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-17 08:01:18 PM  
Sounds legit.
 
2014-03-17 08:02:19 PM  
Having thought about destroying several people's lives by planting child porn on their computers, I can't say that I completely trust the system.
 
2014-03-17 08:07:32 PM  
Who wrote this farking story?

They talk about busting the guy.

Then it goes on to say "Last month, the Loveland Police Department busted a man..." like they're talking about someone different than the person they opened up the story about. It's the same guy, right?

And how did they originally trace the porn 'back to an IP', yet "once again find porn on his computer"? Had they looked at his computer before? Or is this actually just back to the files he was trading on the internet?


It's like they just wrote down everything they could, printed each sentence on its own piece of paper, threw them in the air, and then decided that was how it would get written up.
 
2014-03-17 08:10:18 PM  
His name wasn't "Kurtzweil", was it?

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-17 08:11:04 PM  
I'm not saying it's kiddie porn, but it's kiddie porn
 
2014-03-17 08:11:05 PM  
The anal probing was getting old.
 
2014-03-17 08:12:32 PM  
While I believe child porn to be particularly heinous and worthy of prosecution, why is the department of homeland security involved?
 
2014-03-17 08:12:58 PM  
Detective Paul Arreola

They let that slip out.
Probably milking the leads.
The case will get bigger with a pinch of hard work.
 
2014-03-17 08:13:12 PM  
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.
 
2014-03-17 08:13:41 PM  

Mikey1969: Who wrote this farking story?

They talk about busting the guy.

Then it goes on to say "Last month, the Loveland Police Department busted a man..." like they're talking about someone different than the person they opened up the story about. It's the same guy, right?

And how did they originally trace the porn 'back to an IP', yet "once again find porn on his computer"? Had they looked at his computer before? Or is this actually just back to the files he was trading on the internet?


It's like they just wrote down everything they could, printed each sentence on its own piece of paper, threw them in the air, and then decided that was how it would get written up.


Huff Po: we write to potato.
 
2014-03-17 08:15:21 PM  

badhatharry: Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.


Just because you're paranoid does, however, mean you shouldn't trade illegal files of any type using p2p on your own IP.
 
m00
2014-03-17 08:17:02 PM  
"In March 2013, Franklin once again allegedly found pornography on Romanek's computer."

How did he find it without a warrant? Or, how did they get the warrant if the case was "too stale"?
 
2014-03-17 08:17:27 PM  

Psychohazard: While I believe child porn to be particularly heinous and worthy of prosecution, why is the department of homeland security involved?


Terrorist Porn
 
2014-03-17 08:19:19 PM  
this is exactly how dissenters will be silenced in this new age
 
2014-03-17 08:22:24 PM  
"The pictures contained images of girls that spanned an age range of approximately 5 years old to approximately 12 years old," the report reads. "In each of these photos, the girls are posed in a seductive manner and are exposing their breasts and genitalia. Several of these girls are very young and unmistakably children."

So... pictures of children without clothes on.

/the horror
 
2014-03-17 08:22:53 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: I'm glad the detective nipped this in the bud.


Whatchoo Talkinbout:
They let that slip out.
Probably milking the leads.
The case will get bigger with a pinch of hard work.


I hope they keep us abreast of the situation, and include back-story for those of us without keen mammaries.  Sounds like real professionals on the case and not a bunch of boobs.  Not a very uplifting story, but I feel udderly perplexed by the bad writing in the article.  I don't think the guy they arrested will garner a lot of support.
 
2014-03-17 08:23:35 PM  

Hokkaido_Crying: His name wasn't "Kurtzweil", was it?


Winnar!
 
2014-03-17 08:23:57 PM  
Was his name Peter File?
i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-03-17 08:25:01 PM  

Psychohazard: While I believe child porn to be particularly heinous and worthy of prosecution, why is the department of homeland security involved?


Preserving their budget, it's job one.
 
2014-03-17 08:25:19 PM  

Psychohazard: While I believe child porn to be particularly heinous and worthy of prosecution, why is the department of homeland security involved?


m00: "In March 2013, Franklin once again allegedly found pornography on Romanek's computer."

How did he find it without a warrant? Or, how did they get the warrant if the case was "too stale"?


As I pointed out above, the story was pretty much written by an animated dog turd. I'm sure there are a lot of details they didn't bother to include that would explain all of this. Instead, it's like a DailyMail article, but with less pictures.
 
m00
2014-03-17 08:39:43 PM  

Mikey1969: As I pointed out above, the story was pretty much written by an animated dog turd. I'm sure there are a lot of details they didn't bother to include that would explain all of this. Instead, it's like a DailyMail article, but with less pictures.


Yeah, I just mean regardless of the crime... you can't just warrantlessly monitor someone's computer "because."

What I was worried about was Homeland Security tapped his computer with one of those secret warrants because he's a conspiracy nut (fine) and then they found child porn when they went fishing through his files. That's kind of scary, because warrants are supposed to be "specific" -- like you if you have a warrant to search for a stolen car you can't search the jewelry box for cocaine. But once you get a warrant for "data" everything is fair game. But AT LEAST you are still protected by the fact they need a warrant in the first place. Getting a judge to sign a warrant, you need actual reasons.

But now we're operating under the "Homeland Security can secretly look at anyone's computer without a warrant -- or with a SECRET warrant issued by secret courts for whatever reason they want." And they if they find anything, even stuff not related to homeland security, they can come take your stuff.

That's scary.

Because it means if someone at homeland security decides to tap your computer for "vague super secret national security reasons" (which apparently is pretty easy both procedurally and technically) and they find ANYTHING criminal, you're going to jail. That completely subverts the entire point of warrants and several articles in the bill of rights.
 
2014-03-17 08:42:53 PM  
I'm sure this is excusable because the creep says some of the girls were smiling in the pics.
 
2014-03-17 08:44:39 PM  
Just because he is paranoid doesn't mean there not out to get him.
 
NFA
2014-03-17 08:45:01 PM  
Romanek continued to blame others for putting child pornography on his computer, authorities alleged.
"I told him this was virtually impossible and he did not argue with me,"

Well, it's certainly not impossible to place ANYTHING on someones computer.
 
2014-03-17 08:50:20 PM  

m00: Yeah, I just mean regardless of the crime... you can't just warrantlessly monitor someone's computer "because."


if you read the article, you would have noticed he was sharing things on peer to peer networks. once you do that, you're fair game
 
2014-03-17 08:50:43 PM  
"I was researching anal probes!"
 
2014-03-17 08:52:07 PM  
References to Detective Paul Arreola

I don't get it.
 
2014-03-17 08:54:49 PM  
And the reptilian overlords succeed in crushing another critic.
 
2014-03-17 08:55:13 PM  

Mikey1969: Who wrote this farking story?

They talk about busting the guy.

Then it goes on to say "Last month, the Loveland Police Department busted a man..." like they're talking about someone different than the person they opened up the story about. It's the same guy, right?

And how did they originally trace the porn 'back to an IP', yet "once again find porn on his computer"? Had they looked at his computer before? Or is this actually just back to the files he was trading on the internet?


It's like they just wrote down everything they could, printed each sentence on its own piece of paper, threw them in the air, and then decided that was how it would get written up.


And that surprises you about modern journalism because...?
 
m00
2014-03-17 08:57:41 PM  

tlchwi02: if you read the article, you would have noticed he was sharing things on peer to peer networks. once you do that, you're fair game


Okay, I thought they said he stopped that in 2008 or something. It said the p2p stuff was from 2008, but in 2013 the cop "found files on his computer" and its like...how?
 
2014-03-17 09:00:13 PM  
www.troll.me
 
2014-03-17 09:01:24 PM  
Is it just me, or is the DHS agent admitting to having broken into this guy's machine, twice, and not doing anything because he didn't have jurisdiction in the first place?  Would his evidence have been admissible anyway?  Let's hope so, in this case, but I thought they were supposed to have warrants and whatnot before just breaking in over the wire, in which case he wouldn't have had to hand the case to a local PD who didn't know WTF they were doing with that sort of crime, and so did nothing.
 
2014-03-17 09:02:37 PM  
can we mix his worlds and shoot him into space when found guilty???
 
2014-03-17 09:05:23 PM  

Hokkaido_Crying: His name wasn't "Kurtzweil", was it?


Yup, pretty much my first thought...
 
2014-03-17 09:05:44 PM  
"We will be taking UFOlogy into the courtroom. We know that this has EVERTING [sic] to do with our being outspoken about the ET/UFO reality."

2.bp.blogspot.com

EVERTING.


.
 
2014-03-17 09:10:06 PM  

Molavian: Having thought about destroying several people's lives by planting child porn on their computers, I can't say that I completely trust the system.


m00: But now we're operating under the "Homeland Security can secretly look at anyone's computer without a warrant -- or with a SECRET warrant issued by secret courts for whatever reason they want." And they if they find anything, even stuff not related to homeland security, they can come take your stuff.

That's scary.

Because it means if someone at homeland security decides to tap your computer for "vague super secret national security reasons" (which apparently is pretty easy both procedurally and technically) and they find ANYTHING criminal, you're going to jail. That completely subverts the entire point of warrants and several articles in the bill of rights.


You want scary? It has now been proven (even with articles posted here on Fark in recent times) that the FBI, CIA, NSA, Homeland Insecurity, et alia can all now pretty much access any number of pre-installed or post-infection back doors on your phones and computers to do the following: turn on the camera and/or microphone at any time they want, and now upload or download files from your devices as they see fit. It was the recent revelations about various "government" agencies being able to pretty much place files on any computer that they want at will with little to no oversight that raised every alarm that I have. It's bad enough that Micro$oft and Amazon (Kindle & Kindle app) can remove any files that they want, but with MS saying that they can add files at will, and the government doing it without any controls?

If you are a dissident they can now ruin you in a day and make you disappear in a way that will make your friends and family even hate you and want you dead, a la "Rog Blake" from Blake's 7. This isn't sci fi anymore, it's our new farking reality. So now whenever I hear "CP", my very first reaction is no longer "hang the farker by his nuts and suspend him over a meat grinder", it's "Hmm, who did he piss off?"

Welcome to the very scary future. Sadly I am typing this from a computer with a well-known backdoor called the "TPM Chip" :( So not only do the gorram Sinon have access to my files, so does the MF'ing 'government'.
 
2014-03-17 09:10:54 PM  

m00: tlchwi02: if you read the article, you would have noticed he was sharing things on peer to peer networks. once you do that, you're fair game

Okay, I thought they said he stopped that in 2008 or something. It said the p2p stuff was from 2008, but in 2013 the cop "found files on his computer" and its like...how?


no, DHS found him and passed it on the local law enforcement who didn't know what to do with him. several years later the locals created a new trained division that does computer based crime work (obviously they have to know how to collect everything so it holds up in court and follow evidence rules) and they went back to DHS and asked if he was still sharing porn online. according to DHS he still was, so they got warrants to seize his computers. they found some at his home which had it, then seized more from a business location later which also had porn.
 
2014-03-17 09:14:51 PM  
I like how he says he "tried to stay away" from kiddie porn.

Staying away from child porn isn't something I have to "try" to do. It's not any kind of alluring forbidden fruit. It's nasty. It's abuse. It's rape. Pre-pubescent kids aren't sexy and they aren't sex objects to me.

Assuming he actually said this, it seems to be an admission that child porn is a temptation that he has to make a conscious effort to avoid.

/glad to see that "holy balls this is a terribly-written article" has been covered in this thread
 
2014-03-17 09:15:42 PM  
They were NOT pictures of CHILDREN. They were pictures of... ALIENS!!!
 
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