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2014-03-17 06:04:37 PM
Damn near killed them.
 
2014-03-17 07:39:23 PM
That's weird.  i thought (and I could be not remembering correctly), I thought NPR did a segment with doctors who said testing led to too many false positives and thus should be reduced.

Death by willful ignorance panels?  Is this "article" accurate about 30% reduction?  Am I thinking of something else altogether?

\Next time, on SOAP!
 
2014-03-17 08:08:19 PM

somemoron: That's weird.  i thought (and I could be not remembering correctly), I thought NPR did a segment with doctors who said testing led to too many false positives and thus should be reduced.


1) Both could be true simultaneously.
2) I don't know which NPR report you're talking about but I believe that's prostate cancer, or possibly breast cancer. Both have significant false positive rates, and prostate cancer in particular can take a long time to develop, such that you're likely to die of something else before the cancer becomes a problem.
 
2014-03-17 08:23:22 PM
Excellent use of "asinine" tag

/POOP THREAD!
 
2014-03-17 08:39:26 PM

Arkanaut: somemoron: That's weird.  i thought (and I could be not remembering correctly), I thought NPR did a segment with doctors who said testing led to too many false positives and thus should be reduced.

1) Both could be true simultaneously.
2) I don't know which NPR report you're talking about but I believe that's prostate cancer, or possibly breast cancer. Both have significant false positive rates, and prostate cancer in particular can take a long time to develop, such that you're likely to die of something else before the cancer becomes a problem.


At a minimum the article is inaccurate.  Presumably testing cannot reduce the cancer rate at all. It's just a detection method.   It may however reduce the death rate from said cancer.
 
2014-03-17 08:42:03 PM

brandent: Arkanaut: somemoron: That's weird.  i thought (and I could be not remembering correctly), I thought NPR did a segment with doctors who said testing led to too many false positives and thus should be reduced.

1) Both could be true simultaneously.
2) I don't know which NPR report you're talking about but I believe that's prostate cancer, or possibly breast cancer. Both have significant false positive rates, and prostate cancer in particular can take a long time to develop, such that you're likely to die of something else before the cancer becomes a problem.

At a minimum the article is inaccurate.  Presumably testing cannot reduce the cancer rate at all. It's just a detection method.   It may however reduce the death rate from said cancer.


I stand corrected.  It's a horrible article.  A quick google shows the reduction is due to removal of pre-cancerous growths which would have turned into cancer.
 
2014-03-17 09:01:31 PM
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2014-03-17 09:09:03 PM
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Thanks Katie!!
 
2014-03-17 09:26:49 PM
It will be interesting to see how much further colorectal cancer rates will drop with the ACA allowing a no-copay and/or deductible colonoscopy after the age of 50.
 
2014-03-17 09:37:16 PM

Pentaxian: It will be interesting to see how much further colorectal cancer rates will drop with the ACA allowing a no-copay and/or deductible colonoscopy after the age of 50.


Get your ass screened earlier than that if one of your relatives has it.

My boyfriend's got it, found out the hard way because being under fifty he didn't get 'scoped.  We found it at stage IV; the doc said that it had probably been growing in there for at least 5 years.  He'd probably been growing it since his mid to late thirties.

We told his little brothers, and when they went in to get scoped, one of them had polyps that needed snipping out, and he's only 37.
 
2014-03-17 10:06:36 PM

Bonzo_1116: Pentaxian: It will be interesting to see how much further colorectal cancer rates will drop with the ACA allowing a no-copay and/or deductible colonoscopy after the age of 50.

Get your ass screened earlier than that if one of your relatives has it.

My boyfriend's got it, found out the hard way because being under fifty he didn't get 'scoped.  We found it at stage IV; the doc said that it had probably been growing in there for at least 5 years.  He'd probably been growing it since his mid to late thirties.

We told his little brothers, and when they went in to get scoped, one of them had polyps that needed snipping out, and he's only 37.


You're preaching to the choir here. My grandfather died of colon cancer back in days when screenings weren't commonplace. My brother (who was 35 at the time) went for a colonoscopy when he was having "digestive issues" and the first thing the doctor said after the procedure was "do you have any sibilings?" What they found was bad enough that he had to go back the next year and I had to have a screening myself ASAP.

I view colonoscopies as a way being knocked unconscious and have metal objects shoved up my ass but have someone else pay for it for a change.
Hope everything works out for your boyfriend. Fark cancer.
 
2014-03-17 10:43:02 PM

Pentaxian: Bonzo_1116: Pentaxian: It will be interesting to see how much further colorectal cancer rates will drop with the ACA allowing a no-copay and/or deductible colonoscopy after the age of 50.

Get your ass screened earlier than that if one of your relatives has it.

My boyfriend's got it, found out the hard way because being under fifty he didn't get 'scoped.  We found it at stage IV; the doc said that it had probably been growing in there for at least 5 years.  He'd probably been growing it since his mid to late thirties.

We told his little brothers, and when they went in to get scoped, one of them had polyps that needed snipping out, and he's only 37.

You're preaching to the choir here. My grandfather died of colon cancer back in days when screenings weren't commonplace. My brother (who was 35 at the time) went for a colonoscopy when he was having "digestive issues" and the first thing the doctor said after the procedure was "do you have any sibilings?" What they found was bad enough that he had to go back the next year and I had to have a screening myself ASAP.

I view colonoscopies as a way being knocked unconscious and have metal objects shoved up my ass but have someone else pay for it for a change.
Hope everything works out for your boyfriend. Fark cancer.


Just had the last of the main chemo sessions on Friday.  That shiat is gnarly and makes your hands and feet numb, but it appears to be working.  Tumor antigen levels are in the normal person range, and the tumors shrank a bunch.

But yeah, f*ck it right up the ass-cancer.
/I need to go in for scoping, I eat the same food and such.
 
2014-03-17 11:41:20 PM
My father died of colon cancer. I've been having colonoscopies every 5 years since I was 30 (44 now). They seem to find a few polyps every other scope. I suspect these procedures have saved me (so far) from a horrible, lingering death. I actually look forward to them now.
 
2014-03-18 12:24:05 AM
Wouldn't improved detection methods and improved screening methods INCREASE the rate of colon cancer? But decrease the number of deaths?
 
2014-03-18 12:29:48 AM
Stage3 here, had 1/2 colon removed Feb1. Second round (of 12) chemo on Wednesday.
 
2014-03-18 12:43:08 AM
Do they do preventative colon removal surgeries?

Take mine. :

Now I just have a semi-colon. ;
 
2014-03-18 01:48:19 AM

vudutek: Stage3 here, had 1/2 colon removed Feb1. Second round (of 12) chemo on Wednesday.


Good luck, man!
 
2014-03-18 08:12:37 AM

Beerguy: Thanks Katie!!


"My pooper will stretch THIS much"
 
2014-03-18 11:21:14 AM
My Dad had It when he was 40, so now they are insisting I get checked at 30.

Scheduled it for may - not looking forward to it. Oh I'm sure once I'm knocked out I'll be fine, just dreading the prep. I don't do well with any kind of liquid medicine, and there's 2 6 oz bottles that have to be diluted to some crazy amount.
 
2014-03-18 11:50:51 AM

Tkriger: My Dad had It when he was 40, so now they are insisting I get checked at 30.

Scheduled it for may - not looking forward to it. Oh I'm sure once I'm knocked out I'll be fine, just dreading the prep. I don't do well with any kind of liquid medicine, and there's 2 6 oz bottles that have to be diluted to some crazy amount.


It's about a gallon total of the prep that you have to drink.

If they say you can use Gatorade in place of water... DO IT.
 
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