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(Salon)   Rupert Murdoch urges boycott of Guinness for pulling out of the NYC St. Patrick's Day Parade due to ban on gays and lesbians   (salon.com) divider line 313
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2014-03-17 04:59:55 PM  
The whole thing that equates "being gay" with "sex" is so gosh darn stupid that I honestly can't tell if it's a genuine opinion people hold or trolling.
 
2014-03-17 05:00:05 PM  

mark12A: The parade doesn't want organized Gay Groups in the parade advertising their sexuality.


i assume they're also banning other displays of sexuality, such as buttons/shirts that say, "f*ck me, i'm irish," right?
 
2014-03-17 05:00:15 PM  

papatex: Oh look. Another one of these stories again....

What's getting tiresome in my mind is some people are "allowed" to have a public opinion and some people aren't...

If I'm a Christian and my opinion is that being gay doesn't make sense, I'm a bigot...


Wrong. You are a bigot if you deny rights to and discriminate against gays. You are a bigot if you see gays as inferior to other people. If you're having a giant farking community parade and you specifically exclude gay people, then yes, that also suggests a bigoted motive.

And just to be clear, anti-gay Christians see being gay as rather worse than just "not making sense". They see it as a sin, as something that is against God, at a minimum.

If I'm a LGBT and my opinion is there is no God, it's just their opinion...

What an odd way to put it. Like straight people, some LGBT people believe in God or gods, some don't.

I'm not saying I get bullied, nor will I ever say that, but let's all make sure we realize its a two way street and regardless of if you like it or not, the parade committee can do whatever they darn well please, regardless of a few beer makers don't like it.

Of course they can. They can also reap the consequences of their decision.

No, you didn't say you're getting bullied, but you did claim a double standard is being used against you. It suggests that you feel persecuted, which is patently absurd.
 
2014-03-17 05:01:32 PM  

FlashHarry: mark12A: People don't go to parades to learn about other people's kinks, OK?

being gay is a "kink?"


Only if they're having a lot of fun at it.
 
2014-03-17 05:01:43 PM  
Yes! I encourage every Teabagger, Soccer Mom, and all-around right wing retard out there to boycott Guinness! The the company can show photos from CPAC and Teabagger rallies with the caption "THESE PEOPLE HATE GUINESS". Sales will farking skyrocket within the week!
 
2014-03-17 05:02:01 PM  

jst3p: Farce-Side: SkinnyHead: I read that the parade is not banning gays, they just don't want people carrying sex signs. That sounds reasonable.

I could use a helpful picture of what a sex sign looks like.

[img.fark.net image 276x183]

If she orders that, it's a sign that you are getting some.


If she orders that, it's a sign my toilet is going to be clogged later tonight.
 
2014-03-17 05:02:15 PM  

Lord Farkwad: I got my Guinness bar towel.


I'm not buying Guinness again until my bar towel shows up.  I've been waiting over a decade, and I can keep waiting.  I should probably let them know I've moved 3 times since then so they have my address.
 
2014-03-17 05:02:51 PM  

papatex: If I'm a Christian and my opinion is that being gay doesn't make sense and I fight to make sure gay people are not afforded equal rights, I'm a bigot...


ftfy
 
2014-03-17 05:02:59 PM  
Hobby Lobby fights the Affordable Care Act because provisions of the law conflict with the owners religious beliefs: OK.  Guinness choosing not to sponsor an event due to said event discriminating against a specific demographic group of which some of their employees and customers may belong to: morally wrong.  I was under the impression that Murdoch and crew want businesses to be able to operate as they see fit but I guess I was wrong.
 
2014-03-17 05:03:10 PM  
It should be noted that gays are every bit as much fun to drink with as the Irish.

/But they're always after me lucky charms.
 
2014-03-17 05:03:19 PM  
i'm surprised murdoch wants to boycott something strong, thick and black with cream coming out of the top.
 
2014-03-17 05:03:35 PM  

SkinnyHead: I read that the parade is not banning gays, they just don't want people carrying sex signs. That sounds reasonable.


So no "Kiss me (even though you're a guy and I'm a guy) I'm Irish!" signs?
 
2014-03-17 05:03:55 PM  
While I fully support marriage equality and equal benefits when it comes to federal laws that support/protect heterosexual married couples (i.e. death benefits, end of life decisions, etc), I am getting  really tired of the attention whore segment of the current LGBT movement. Why does everything have to be such a farking spectacle. I don't care for seeing straight couples making out in public any more than I enjoy seeing gay couples do it. The more outlandish the displays of their dick wavings get, the less I honestly want to support the cause.
 
2014-03-17 05:04:13 PM  

vudukungfu: Please provide a list of anything this asshole, Rupert Murdoch, has his sticky fingers in so I may boycott those products.

You may forgo the fish wrappers, I don't eat Shait in a cone.


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Includes skipping the next X-Men movie
 
2014-03-17 05:04:17 PM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: They banned gays and lesbians...

Again I ask myself, have we really evolved as a species since the 50's.


No.  Our culture has improved a bit, and so has education, but we're genetically still the same hairless apes.
 
2014-03-17 05:04:34 PM  

exick: Angela Lansbury's Merkin: exick: Oh Michele. The only bullying you've experienced at the hands of the LGBT community is when Marcus refuses to go to "the icky place".

Fresno?
No, but just as dry and depressing.


Bakersfield, then.
 
2014-03-17 05:04:59 PM  

FlashHarry: i'm surprised murdoch wants to boycott something strong, thick and black with cream coming out of the top.


First he cancels The Cleveland Show, now this.
 
2014-03-17 05:05:23 PM  
Here's the new slogan for Guinness 'Every Guinness you drink makes Rupert Murdoch cry."
 
2014-03-17 05:05:28 PM  
holyfamilyparishportola.org

A Christian saint, who  Christianized Ireland with  Christianbeliefs
 
2014-03-17 05:06:37 PM  

Ted_Peppy: mark12A: Nobody is being banned from the parade because they're gay.

The parade doesn't want organized Gay Groups in the parade advertising their sexuality. People accept gays, they're just getting very sick and tired of gay groups waving their dicks in everybody's faces and screaming "HEY WE'RE GAY, ARE WE AWESOME OR WHAT????" all the time now. Maybe parents don't want to have to explain what gays are to their six year olds at a freakin' parade.

Just give it a rest already. People don't go to parades to learn about other people's kinks, OK?

This



This.  The parade doesn't ban gays - it bans groups marching behind gay banners.  You can still wear your green sequin speedo and feather boa, but you'll need to march with the rest of the Young Republicans.
 
2014-03-17 05:06:47 PM  

JesusJuice: When did "bullying" get redefined as "trying to make someone do something they don't want to"?


Since forever. Now hand over your lunch money.
 
2014-03-17 05:08:15 PM  
I don't have a problem with gays, but I think they hurt their own agenda by pushing gay pride. Win equality, gain acceptance, whatever, but taking part in a parade? That's just pushing it in peoples faces. And sex is not  'family friendly'.
 
2014-03-17 05:08:18 PM  

mark12A: Maybe parents don't want to have to explain what gays are to their six year olds at a freakin' parade.


Why is "You know how mommy and daddy love eachother? Gay people are just two mommies or two daddies who love each other just like that" considered such a difficult thing to explain?

Oh, right, you think being gay is a "kink", despite all evidence to the contrary. Because you're a bigoted pile of shiat.
 
2014-03-17 05:08:59 PM  
Just to be devil's advocate, I feel the need to point out that Rupert issuing a tweet wishing the Irish(-Americans?) will stop buying Guinness is hardly "urging a boycott". I mean, he controls all the media. I think if he wanted to urge a boycott, we'd hardly see his fingerprints on it by the time his mindless drones took action. Assuming he still has fingerprints.

/carry on bashing Fox, i'm no fan
//except for Bob's Burgers, Always Sunny, Archer and The Simpsons
 
2014-03-17 05:08:59 PM  
Where will this end? Guinness pulls out of religious parade bullied by gay orgs who try to take it over. Hope all Irish boycott the stuff

2 things:
1. How is the St. Patrick's Day parade religious? I always thought the holiday/parade was more about Irish  heritage (and, for some, getting extremely drunk). Yes, I am well aware that St. Patrick is the patron saint of Ireland, and that there are religious groups there. I bet there are religious groups at gay pride parades too. Disclaimer: I am neither Irish nor was I raised Christian (entirely Ashkenazi Jewish heritage).
2. Good luck with that. Ireland's holding a marriage equality referendum, and things aren't looking too good for supporters of "traditional marriage". Plus, you know, it's Guinness. I hear the Irish love that stuff.
 
2014-03-17 05:09:12 PM  

patrick767: papatex: Oh look. Another one of these stories again....

What's getting tiresome in my mind is some people are "allowed" to have a public opinion and some people aren't...

If I'm a Christian and my opinion is that being gay doesn't make sense, I'm a bigot...

Wrong. You are a bigot if you deny rights to and discriminate against gays. You are a bigot if you see gays as inferior to other people. If you're having a giant farking community parade and you specifically exclude gay people, then yes, that also suggests a bigoted motive.

And just to be clear, anti-gay Christians see being gay as rather worse than just "not making sense". They see it as a sin, as something that is against God, at a minimum.

If I'm a LGBT and my opinion is there is no God, it's just their opinion...

What an odd way to put it. Like straight people, some LGBT people believe in God or gods, some don't.

I'm not saying I get bullied, nor will I ever say that, but let's all make sure we realize its a two way street and regardless of if you like it or not, the parade committee can do whatever they darn well please, regardless of a few beer makers don't like it.

Of course they can. They can also reap the consequences of their decision.

No, you didn't say you're getting bullied, but you did claim a double standard is being used against you. It suggests that you feel persecuted, which is patently absurd.


So this goes for those with the opinion against the LGBT community, but the LGBT community shouldn't have to deal with the "consequences" of their decisions?

No, I'm not bullied, nor am I persecuted. But you further my point by automatically assuming that notion based on my opinion..
 
2014-03-17 05:09:30 PM  
Somebody did a thing, so someone else did a thing, so someone else did a thing, and now someone wants me boycott a thing because of the thing somebody did to the people who did the thing.

Fark that. How about I do what I want, and you petty coonts can call me when you're done acting like goddamn children. Keep me out of your playground bullshiat.
 
2014-03-17 05:09:37 PM  

boaris_grozny: OK....why exactly does everybody feel they need to be included in something that has nothing to do with them...?


It's not some random gay rights group that was booted. The St. Patrick's Day parade is organized by a veterans group. Gay veterans wanted to march. That's who the parade organizers stopped.
 
2014-03-17 05:09:43 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: [holyfamilyparishportola.org image 465x600]

A Christian saint, who  Christianized Ireland with  Christianbeliefs


Remember how he drove the gays from Ireland?
 
2014-03-17 05:09:48 PM  

Edymnion: Yeah, gays are totally not banned from the parade.

They're just not allowed to identify as being gay in any way.  They have to hide among the other tolerance groups and not let anyone know who or what they are.

Because hiding your gays is totally the same as accepting them as human beings, and is in no way similar to what the Russians were doing during the Olympics.


Oh STFU.  Gays don't need to butt in on every damned stage. Like another farker said, maybe I don't want to explain to my 5 year old what "gay" is before he's even ready to learn about what sex is.

St. Patrick's day is not a political day. It is not a sexual day.  If ANYTHING, it's a religious day, but it's not that either.  It's just a day to celebrate Irish heritage and get hammered.

BTW, as long as we're talking about bigotry, many of you who whine that OMG TEH GAYS HAVE NO VOICE are also the same farkers who relentlessly and openly make fun of gingers.  Ironic.
 
2014-03-17 05:09:58 PM  
Occam's Nailfile:
 No one GIVES a fark about the fact that you're gay

What planet are you living on? This statement is completely false. Ask the people of Arizona if "no one gives a fark" about people being gay. Ask the many states that have or are trying to write bans on gay marriage and/or civil unions into their constitutions and laws. Ask the countless gay people who have seen very real discrimination. No one cares? Bullshiat.

Maybe, just MAYBE, you're "bullied" because once you come out of the closet, you act like the world owes you something.

Blame the victim. Nice job, asshole.
 
2014-03-17 05:09:59 PM  
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Phew! What a bum scortcher!

 
2014-03-17 05:10:08 PM  

URAPNIS: Meh. I don't drink that crap anyway.
You'll have to pry the rocky mountain goodness, Coors Light, out of my cold dead hands though.


Funny you should mention that because the annual pride fest is apparently called the "Coors Light PrideFest."
 
2014-03-17 05:10:14 PM  
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2014-03-17 05:10:52 PM  

LordJiro: mark12A: Maybe parents don't want to have to explain what gays are to their six year olds at a freakin' parade.

Why is "You know how mommy and daddy love eachother? Gay people are just two mommies or two daddies who love each other just like that" considered such a difficult thing to explain?

Oh, right, you think being gay is a "kink", despite all evidence to the contrary. Because you're a bigoted pile of shiat.


Hey look! More proof!
 
2014-03-17 05:11:03 PM  
How about banning it because it is weak and tasteless?
 
2014-03-17 05:11:15 PM  

Sidecrab: I don't have a problem with gays, but I think they hurt their own agenda by pushing gay pride. Win equality, gain acceptance, whatever, but taking part in a parade? That's just pushing it in peoples faces. And sex is not  'family friendly'.


Homosexuality is not all about sex. Just like heterosexual partnerships aren't all about sex. The fact that people whining about gay pride are so obsessed with the sexual aspect says more about the whiners than the actual gay people.
 
2014-03-17 05:11:29 PM  

Occam's Nailfile: Oh STFU.  Gays don't need to butt in on every damned stage. Like another farker said, maybe I don't want to explain to my 5 year old what "gay" is before he's even ready to learn about what sex is.


who's talking about sex?
 
2014-03-17 05:11:37 PM  
Folks want to boycott Guinness? Go ahead. Free country. Much like folks protesting Chik-Fil-A or folks buying up their sandwiches because they took a stance.

In this case, I think it's sort of sad that folks are upset that Guinness is taking a stand against discrimination, and Murdoch is standing with folks who are against equality. Maybe that is a sign to avoid Murdoch's empire as well. Just a thought. Let him pour millions into political races, dump money into PACs, and let him try to stand against the tide of history. At least some of the money will trickle down a bit for a while...
 
2014-03-17 05:12:47 PM  

Sidecrab: I don't have a problem with gays, but I think they hurt their own agenda by pushing gay pride. Win equality, gain acceptance, whatever, but taking part in a parade? That's just pushing it in peoples faces. And sex is not  'family friendly'.


So it's not the gay, it's the Pride. A deadly sin indeed.
/ by the way, sex is indeed family friendly. It's the most common path to being in the family-way.
 
2014-03-17 05:15:15 PM  

FlashHarry: Occam's Nailfile: Oh STFU.  Gays don't need to butt in on every damned stage. Like another farker said, maybe I don't want to explain to my 5 year old what "gay" is before he's even ready to learn about what sex is.

who's talking about sex?


Totally-not-repressed anti-gay folk are obsessed with gay sex. Thus, they assume openly gay people are obsessed with gay sex.
 
2014-03-17 05:15:20 PM  
lilplatinum


How about banning it because it is weak and tasteless?


That leaves it open to sponsorship by Michelob Ultra.
 
2014-03-17 05:15:37 PM  

Sidecrab: And sex is not 'family friendly'.


Neither are most St. Patrick Day's parades. I believe it was only 1-2 years ago Hoboken considered shutting the whole thing down due to out of control drunks. Would you take your kid to a random bar on St. Patrick's Day? It's a bad scene, in general. There's a reason regular bar goers refer to St. Patrick's Day and New Years as "amateur night."
 
2014-03-17 05:15:46 PM  

boaris_grozny: OK....why exactly does everybody feel they need to be included in something that has nothing to do with them...? I don't get offended when I can't put my big brown prostate float in the Komen/Speilman mammogram parade, and I'm pretty sure it would cause an uproar if I tried that...so, why? Just stay home, or just put on a green shirt and march along with the rest of us plain old people as if you're a human. You don't need to be separate and special on this one day that doesn't deal with where you want to stick it...I'm over it, you can also get over it.

 
2014-03-17 05:16:26 PM  

Occam's Nailfile: BTW, as long as we're talking about bigotry, many of you who whine that OMG TEH GAYS HAVE NO VOICE are also the same farkers who relentlessly and openly make fun of gingers.  Ironic.


um... nobody is seriously making fun of "gingers." it's a silly meme.

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-17 05:16:44 PM  

Occam's Nailfile: BTW, as long as we're talking about bigotry, many of you who whine that OMG TEH GAYS HAVE NO VOICE are also the same farkers who relentlessly and openly make fun of gingers.  Ironic.


Nobody sincerely hates gingers.
 
2014-03-17 05:16:47 PM  

papatex: LordJiro: mark12A: Maybe parents don't want to have to explain what gays are to their six year olds at a freakin' parade.

Why is "You know how mommy and daddy love eachother? Gay people are just two mommies or two daddies who love each other just like that" considered such a difficult thing to explain?

Oh, right, you think being gay is a "kink", despite all evidence to the contrary. Because you're a bigoted pile of shiat.

Hey look! More proof!


Hey look! A bigot whining about another bigot being called out!
 
2014-03-17 05:17:08 PM  

Occam's Nailfile: Oh STFU.  Gays don't need to butt in on every damned stage. Like another farker said, maybe I don't want to explain to my 5 year old what "gay" is before he's even ready to learn about what sex is.

St. Patrick's day is not a political day. It is not a sexual day.  If ANYTHING, it's a religious day, but it's not that either.  It's just a day to celebrate Irish heritage and get hammered.


So having to explain to your kid that gay people exist is not cool but getting hammered to celebrate a "religious day" is just dandy?

On behalf of all reasonable people - go fark yourself.

/gay irish ginger here
 
2014-03-17 05:18:03 PM  

odinsposse: boaris_grozny: OK....why exactly does everybody feel they need to be included in something that has nothing to do with them...?

It's not some random gay rights group that was booted. The St. Patrick's Day parade is organized by a veterans group. Gay veterans wanted to march. That's who the parade organizers stopped.


That's reprehensible.
 
2014-03-17 05:18:07 PM  

Sidecrab: I don't have a problem with gays, but I think they hurt their own agenda by pushing gay pride. Win equality, gain acceptance, whatever, but taking part in a parade? That's just pushing it in peoples faces. And sex is not  'family friendly'.


Its as family friendly as a man dating a woman.

Oh wait, you say that a man and a woman can be seen together in public and it isn't about sex?  Well then, gay couples should be able to be able to be seen in public without sex coming up either.

I know you like to spend a lot of time thinking about two sweaty men pressing up against each other, their well toned abs sliding against each other, but sometimes couples just like to go out and have dinner before they return home to wash the dishes and go to sleep.
 
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