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(Wired)   Scientists at subby's workplace have found a signal from the beginning of time. Possibly a Nobel Prize winning discovery   (wired.com) divider line 259
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2014-03-17 11:45:10 AM  
 
2014-03-17 11:45:41 AM  

Felgraf: MartinD-35: What was there before time started, would that be a negative number?  I'm a bit confused here with the concept of the infinite and all that.  Dinosaur riders need not try to help.

Thaaattt depends on what cosmological model you look at, but the concept of 'before' the universe/before time is tricky.

Especially since first you have to define what 'time' is, and we're kinda still arguing about *THAT*.


here's a graphical representation:

media.tumblr.com
 
2014-03-17 11:46:20 AM  

The Crepes of Wrath: Felgraf: AND direct evidence for the inflationary epoch?!

And if I'm not mistaken, the inflationary universe model also implies (requires, actually) a multiverse.


Not entirely the case. Inflationary cosmology allows for "multiverses", i.e. seprate bubbles of space-time, and an eternal inflation model will always produce an infinite number of seprate universes, but I believe even with this discovery it's still possible to reconcile inflation with a single universe. Some one may correct me if I'm wrong though.

/lapsed astrophysicist
 
2014-03-17 11:46:54 AM  
To solve this conundrum, theorists in the 1980s speculated that the very early universe must have been even smaller than we presume. Approximately 0.000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds after the Big Bang, it suddenly went through an accelerated expansion that drove it to become one thousand quadrillion quadrillion quadrillion quadrillion quadrillion times bigger than it previously was. Inflation brings the universe to the right size for the Big Bang model and all our other observations to make sense.

Extremely small numbers referencing extremely large numbers makes brain go to goo.
 
2014-03-17 11:46:55 AM  
I'll give a Nobel Prize for someone who puts content up on the net that doesn't shake me down for time.
 
2014-03-17 11:47:16 AM  

The Crepes of Wrath: Felgraf: AND direct evidence for the inflationary epoch?!

And if I'm not mistaken, the inflationary universe model also implies (requires, actually) a multiverse.


Inflation doesn't require a multiverse.  The multiverse is the simplest way to avoid the anthropic principle -- 'why did the universe inflate in just such a way that life was possible' -- but you can still have inflation without a multiverse.
 
2014-03-17 11:47:18 AM  

MartinD-35: What was there before time started, would that be a negative number?  I'm a bit confused here with the concept of the infinite and all that.  Dinosaur riders need not try to help.


There was no "before" because time did not exist. You can't have anything north of the North Pole, and you can't have "before" the Big Bang.
 
2014-03-17 11:47:51 AM  
Some old guy trundling along in the fast lane with his left blinker on?
 
2014-03-17 11:49:02 AM  
Amazing! I knew those steady-state punks were full of it!
 
2014-03-17 11:49:14 AM  

Headso: cool place to be a janitor, subs...


Hey I get to do math on the boards at night.
 
2014-03-17 11:49:51 AM  

The Crepes of Wrath: Felgraf: AND direct evidence for the inflationary epoch?!

And if I'm not mistaken, the inflationary universe model also implies (requires, actually) a multiverse.


I know this isn't Reddit but, Explain it Like I'm 5.

/or point me in a good introductory direction...
 
2014-03-17 11:49:52 AM  
"We apologise for the inconvenience"

I think...I feel good about it.
 
2014-03-17 11:50:10 AM  
"Oops... sorry."
 
2014-03-17 11:50:32 AM  

ZeroPly: "Approximately 0.000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds after the Big Bang, it suddenly went through an accelerated expansion that drove it to become one thousand quadrillion quadrillion quadrillion quadrillion quadrillion times bigger [...]"

You know, if you think your readers are too stupid to understand exponential notation, it's cool to say "billions and billions" or "tiny fraction of a microsecond".


From the beginning of the article: But the thing that has scientists really excited is that it could provide the first direct evidence for a theorized event called inflation that caused the universe to exponentially grow just a fraction of a fraction of a second after it was born.
 
2014-03-17 11:51:02 AM  

AirForceVet: So Subby works at the South Pole?


There is a farker who works at the South Pole
 
2014-03-17 11:51:11 AM  
I like to think the signal is God excusing himself after a gigantic fart ...
 
2014-03-17 11:51:34 AM  

spcMike: AirForceVet: So Subby works at the South Pole?

There is a farker who works at the South Pole


It's not me though.  I hope I find out who it is!
 
2014-03-17 11:52:02 AM  
You mean the beginning of *this* time.
 
2014-03-17 11:52:16 AM  
"Hold my beer and watch this"
 
2014-03-17 11:52:42 AM  
Wildly cool!
 
2014-03-17 11:52:46 AM  
Probably a telemarketer, signal went straight to voicemail...
 
2014-03-17 11:53:00 AM  
When converted to audio "Achoo" is easily heard.
 
2014-03-17 11:53:03 AM  
very cool
congrats
 
2014-03-17 11:53:13 AM  

plainlyclueless: You mean the beginning of *this* time.


Oooooooooooh.
Watchout here. We got us a badass genius.
 
2014-03-17 11:53:14 AM  
What type of floors do you clean there, Subby?  :P
 
2014-03-17 11:53:17 AM  

jylcat: Headso: cool place to be a janitor, subs...

Hey I get to do math on the boards at night.


If you want to have more fun, change the math on the boards at night just a little.  Make that 2 into a 3 or that * into a /.  Then sit back and watch hilarity ensue.

Not that I ever knew anyone who did such a thing during college....
 
2014-03-17 11:53:21 AM  

ralanprod: Pffft.

Let me know when they track down a recording of a booming voice calling out, "Let there be light".


In the beginning God created light.  As he cast his gaze upon it he was blinded.  He cried out "Jesus Christ that's bright!".  So He created the Earth and things have gone downhill since then.
 
2014-03-17 11:53:32 AM  

Felgraf: HOLY shiat they may have finally detected gravity waves?!

AND direct evidence for the inflationary epoch?!

I agree, that IS Nobel-worthy. Jebus, that's friggen awesome.


Well, it's less detecting gravitational waves and more detecting the potential results of gravitational waves.
 
2014-03-17 11:53:47 AM  

Inigo: "HOLD MY BEER AND WATCH THIS."


dammit.
 
2014-03-17 11:54:08 AM  
Anyone else read that as 'Cosmetologists Find Signal'?

/if you don't look good, we don't look good
 
2014-03-17 11:54:24 AM  
"Let me know if you see a Radio Shack."
 
2014-03-17 11:54:25 AM  

Anayalator: [img.fark.net image 220x229]


God spoke and BANG it happened?

//saw that on a bumper sticker
 
2014-03-17 11:54:29 AM  
"ooooOOOOHyeah! You were great, baby. Can you make me a sandwich?"
 
2014-03-17 11:55:49 AM  

Saiga410: When converted to audio "Achoo" is easily heard.


Great Green Arkelseizure?

//Thanks for all the fish
 
2014-03-17 11:55:55 AM  

Mentat: "Hello Sweetie"?  The fark?


Came for this.
 
2014-03-17 11:56:46 AM  

FlashHarry: a 6,000-year-old signal? very cool!


Being a half-hour late is an eternity when you're coming to make a joke on Fark.
 
2014-03-17 11:57:57 AM  

sufferpuppet: jylcat: Headso: cool place to be a janitor, subs...

Hey I get to do math on the boards at night.

If you want to have more fun, change the math on the boards at night just a little.  Make that 2 into a 3 or that * into a /.  Then sit back and watch hilarity ensue.

Not that I ever knew anyone who did such a thing during college....


Hahahah NEVER!
 
2014-03-17 11:58:55 AM  

FlashHarry: a 6,000-year-old signal? very cool!


I also have a signal from the beginning of time.

It's called The Holy Bible!

Suck it, libs!

*runs away*
 
2014-03-17 11:59:01 AM  

LrdPhoenix: Felgraf: HOLY shiat they may have finally detected gravity waves?!

AND direct evidence for the inflationary epoch?!

I agree, that IS Nobel-worthy. Jebus, that's friggen awesome.

Well, it's less detecting gravitational waves and more detecting the potential results of gravitational waves.


Which has been true of other measurements also.  But it's the first time that the effects of those gravitational waves have been detected.
 
2014-03-17 11:59:10 AM  

ralanprod: Pffft.

Let me know when they track down a recording of a booming voice calling out, "Let there be light".


It was more of a nasaly voice...
 
2014-03-17 11:59:12 AM  
So they found gravity waves? OP's mom must have fallen into a pool.
 
2014-03-17 11:59:45 AM  
www.wired.com
Is this one of those things where you cross your eyes and see a 3-D dinosaur or something?  Because I'm not seeing it.
 
2014-03-17 12:00:18 PM  
http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/news/conferences for the press conference, but good luck getting through the site it already hammered.

You'd think $30 billion endowment they could get a website that could handle a bunch of people trying to view a press conference.
 
2014-03-17 12:01:03 PM  
This should finally settle that whole how was the universe created arguement... oh wait, no, they'll just say "God" caused the big bang, duh!
 
GBB
2014-03-17 12:01:15 PM  
i.imgur.com
I don't freakin get it.
 
2014-03-17 12:01:19 PM  
It's pretty awesome, one of the people who regularly comes into the letterpress I run has been live-Tweeting the conference, complete with graphs and images. Pretty cool shiat. Also this:

pbs.twimg.com
 
2014-03-17 12:01:55 PM  

jylcat: sufferpuppet: jylcat: Headso: cool place to be a janitor, subs...

Hey I get to do math on the boards at night.

If you want to have more fun, change the math on the boards at night just a little.  Make that 2 into a 3 or that * into a /.  Then sit back and watch hilarity ensue.

Not that I ever knew anyone who did such a thing during college....

Hahahah NEVER!


One of my classes had someone who would always change the infinity symbols to christian fish symbols. Always good for a laugh when the professor would be going back through the equation and stop, scratch his head and mutter, "What the Fark...?"
 
2014-03-17 12:02:41 PM  

ralanprod: Pffft.

Let me know when they track down a recording of a booming voice calling out, "Let there be light".


Pffft. Everyone knows that at the beginning of time they spoke Latin.

/wants subby's job
 
2014-03-17 12:02:43 PM  
Having just read Max Tegmarks new book, I have a vague understanding about what this is.
 
2014-03-17 12:03:20 PM  
But, rest assured, this will be the sixth time we have destroyed it, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it.
 
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