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2014-03-17 11:08:08 AM

snocone: Gulper Eel: mbillips: A lot, if not most, cheating happens while traveling for business. They don't call them "road rules" for nothing.

Having seen a fair share of business-hotel bars in my time, I have yet to see any evidence of a real-life "Up in the Air" scenario, let alone any business travelers who look like Vera Farmiga or George Clooney..

Maybe I just traveled to the wrong cities.


Obviously.


Okay, so where are all the business-traveling Vera Farmiga-looking women, then?

Cleveland maybe?
 
2014-03-17 11:08:13 AM

snocone: sendtodave: snocone: sendtodave: snocone: sendtodave: lordjupiter: No, being a sociopathic asshole makes you more likely to be a cheater AND a greedy go-getter who later uses stress as an excuse.

Don't hate.

Sure, they got all the cash and all the girls, but there's no need to be jelly.

Don't confuse jelly w/ a serious homicidal impulse requiring continuous control.
Control the rich and famous lack.

Don't hate the player, learn to play the game.

The only win is not playing, just like so many games".

Actually, the only way to win is to win.

There is no prize for non-participation.  Even in a society that gives trophies for participation, that's just too weak.

Boss? Is that you?


No, I'm just thinking like a boss.

Like a boss.
 
2014-03-17 11:11:51 AM
ObscureNameHere


What I don't get is why these guys don't have an 'Admiral Akbar' sense with cheating.

TIP: If the employee is LOWER than you on the Org Chart, you are getting set-up (potentially) for horrid HR fallout.


Interesting way of thinking but I can see where the paranoia is justified.

Something I always practiced from day one, don't fark your co-workers. Places of employment are hotbeds for gossip and eventually someone will say something to someone.
 
2014-03-17 11:11:58 AM
First you get the money, then you get the power, then you get the women.

- Ric Romero
 
2014-03-17 11:14:50 AM

mike_d85: ObscureNameHere: What I don't get is why these guys don't have an 'Admiral Akbar' sense with cheating.

TIP: If the employee is LOWER than you on the Org Chart, you are getting set-up (potentially) for horrid HR fallout.

The trick is to find someone on a lower level in a different column.  That way, you aren't influencing them directly and it kills a huge swath of S.H. fodder immediately.  You don't have the power to DIRECTLY promote, fire, threaten, etc.  But you are still a powerful individual with control and possible influence over their superior, hence the attraction is there.


For college professors, this is knows as trading grad students.
 
2014-03-17 11:21:48 AM

Gulper Eel: having a top job makes them more likely to cheat because of the stress attached to their position and the lack of quality time they can spend with their family.

That makes no sense. If they don't have quality time for the family then they don't have quality time for screwing around, unless it's of the quickie-in-the-office variety. Who the hell takes out their frustrations with bad sex at home by having bad sex at work? Doesn't seem like much of a risk/reward payoff there.


and to have to go through the whole process of having bad sex with somebody until you figure them out...ugh, I'm too lazy for that.  My wife and I know each other at this point, we know what the other needs and when they need it.  Sometimes vanilla is nice, sometimes spicy is nice, and we don't have to say anything to know.  Why I'd want to have inferior sex with someboy at work while at the same time risking your marriage and your kids is beyond me.
 
2014-03-17 11:22:34 AM

mbillips: Jealous, subby?

Alpha males cheat because they can. The same sociopathic tendencies that help you claw your way up in office politics make you more likely to cheat, and make you more attractive to women who want to bang cheaters. We beta males don't have the same opportunities.


alpha =/= sociopathic

but yeah women do like confident men. sorry
 
2014-03-17 11:24:39 AM

Bullseyed: TFA calls out women as handling stress better?

Having seen women burst into tears over the stress of "driving in rush hour traffic" I'm going to call that a load of bullshiat.


this whole "study" is from a dating website and the quote is from one of the dating website people.
 
2014-03-17 11:29:26 AM

Lady J: mbillips: Jealous, subby?

Alpha males cheat because they can. The same sociopathic tendencies that help you claw your way up in office politics make you more likely to cheat, and make you more attractive to women who want to bang cheaters. We beta males don't have the same opportunities.

alpha =/= sociopathic

but yeah women do like confident men. sorry


Many do, and many like shy, "cute" guys.  A lot of that's cultural, I think.

Western women are sen as too strong for many non-westerners, and would obviously require an even stronger man.  To, you know, keep them in line.
 
2014-03-17 11:33:11 AM

sendtodave: Lady J: mbillips: Jealous, subby?

Alpha males cheat because they can. The same sociopathic tendencies that help you claw your way up in office politics make you more likely to cheat, and make you more attractive to women who want to bang cheaters. We beta males don't have the same opportunities.

alpha =/= sociopathic

but yeah women do like confident men. sorry

Many do, and many like shy, "cute" guys.  A lot of that's cultural, I think.

Western women are sen as too strong for many non-westerners, and would obviously require an even stronger man.  To, you know, keep them in line.


ok i could have been clearer. for one-off hook-ups, or extra marital naughtiness, its far more likely to be a scenario of confident, successful man and women who like that, than some cute meadow-based wooing
 
2014-03-17 11:34:05 AM
Scumbag cheaters is the new rape.
 
2014-03-17 11:40:30 AM

sendtodave: Lady J: mbillips: Jealous, subby?

Alpha males cheat because they can. The same sociopathic tendencies that help you claw your way up in office politics make you more likely to cheat, and make you more attractive to women who want to bang cheaters. We beta males don't have the same opportunities.

alpha =/= sociopathic

but yeah women do like confident men. sorry

Many do, and many like shy, "cute" guys.  A lot of that's cultural, I think.

Western women are sen as too strong for many non-westerners, and would obviously require an even stronger man.  To, you know, keep them in line.


From my experience, women want what the other women around them want.
 
2014-03-17 11:44:41 AM

Likwit: DNRTFA, but I assume they give the women a pass or don't mention it at all. It takes two to cheat, brah.


If the woman is already not involved with anyone, how is she cheating on anyone?
 
2014-03-17 11:47:17 AM
while we're on the subject, I find the whole societal alpha/beta etc concept FASCINATING. that said, lots of people use the words as shorthand, and they don't always mean the same
 
2014-03-17 11:52:54 AM

Gulper Eel: Mock26: Quality time with family = going to the zoo, family vacations, birthday parties, recitals, soccer games, etc.
Quality time for screwing around = screwing someone

I think that one of those two options takes up considerably more time than the other.

It's all the skulduggery surrounding the screwing that's time consuming.

Even if (for argument's sake) the only strange-chasing consideration for a guy was "don't get caught", you have to have

1) the time
2) the place
3) the means to conceal the arranging of the time and place
4) the energy
5) the unfailing discretion
6) the mutual desire that makes all the sneaking around worth it, at least on a base physical level
7) the mutual discipline to end the sneaking around with zero drama

Looks like a pretty shiatty ratio of work to payoff to me.


That's why they keep getting drama and keep getting caught.  Sloppy cheating.
 
2014-03-17 12:01:53 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: sendtodave: Lady J: mbillips: Jealous, subby?

Alpha males cheat because they can. The same sociopathic tendencies that help you claw your way up in office politics make you more likely to cheat, and make you more attractive to women who want to bang cheaters. We beta males don't have the same opportunities.

alpha =/= sociopathic

but yeah women do like confident men. sorry

Many do, and many like shy, "cute" guys.  A lot of that's cultural, I think.

Western women are sen as too strong for many non-westerners, and would obviously require an even stronger man.  To, you know, keep them in line.

From my experience, women want what the other women around them want.


BINGO!
 
2014-03-17 12:02:45 PM
And you thought synching menstruation was a fluke.
 
2014-03-17 12:05:48 PM

Lady J: while we're on the subject, I find the whole societal alpha/beta etc concept FASCINATING. that said, lots of people use the words as shorthand, and they don't always mean the same


Right. Econ blogger Noah Smith was complaining about that recently, how the Internet tends to use "beta male" to mean "omega male" (the bottom of the pecking order) rather than what it meant before PUA was a community, the second from the top of the pecking order. Though through the magic of common usage, it'll come to mean the bottom of the pecking order, or perhaps it does already. (Like "beg the question" now means "raise the question").
 
2014-03-17 12:07:14 PM

mike_d85: Does anyone see where they actually ask people in high ranking positions?  I don't.  It looks more like "we established that the stereotype is that having a top job makes them more likely to cheat because of stress."

I would assume the cheating is true, but I would question the motivation.


It doesn't seem likely that asking them would reveal useful information, they're probably not being honest even with themselves about why they're doing it.
 
2014-03-17 12:08:08 PM

bbcard1: I have a strong enough sex drive to understand the allure of cheating.

I own a pretty successful company. Make a nice living and am pretty good about being discrete.

Frankly, I would never hurt my wife for something as trivial as sex. I also think the inability to keep promises in terms of fidelity is a sign of weakness and lack of character.

The best way to honor your promises to your spouse is to keep yourself out of positions where you would be tempted.  That is not hard to do.  It also helps to be a little bit frumpy.


This. Monogamy's easy for me, mostly because I'm ugly and therefore never have to actually resist temptation.
 
2014-03-17 12:08:58 PM

Latinwolf: Likwit: DNRTFA, but I assume they give the women a pass or don't mention it at all. It takes two to cheat, brah.

If the woman is already not involved with anyone, how is she cheating on anyone?


Rationalization.

Fact is, a lot of women will "steal" men.  Hell there's a quote upthread about it.

sendtodave: I've also noticed that women can somehow smell if you are taken.  And they like it.


So, if you are trying to rationalize bad male behavior such as cheating, effective tools include false equivalence ("The woman who farks an adulterer is just as bad as the adulterer") and misogyny ("women are crazy and use their vaginamancy to control men").

And the fact is that while this in NO way exonerates the cheating bastard, women do go after powerful men and taken men.  As a demographic, women are constantly REWARDING bad behavior, and it creates aselective pressure in society to reward and elevate cheaters and scumbags.  Hell if there's an inheritable trait to being a philanderer, the women who constantly go for, fark, and get knocked up by "bad boys" and cheaters are creating bad boys and cheaters.

But yeah, it's mostly just bullshiat and it never means the man isn't a cheating pig.
 
2014-03-17 12:11:46 PM

Lady J: mbillips: Jealous, subby?

Alpha males cheat because they can. The same sociopathic tendencies that help you claw your way up in office politics make you more likely to cheat, and make you more attractive to women who want to bang cheaters. We beta males don't have the same opportunities.

alpha =/= sociopathic

but yeah women do like confident men. sorry


It is interesting to me that women have such a keen ability to spot weakness/beta tendencies yet are generally terrible at discerning fake bravado. As a guy, I feel like I can just look at a dude's eyes and determine level of doucheness with about 90% accuracy.
 
2014-03-17 12:12:09 PM
I've found money and power attracts women  who will .. with the rich and powerful.

/really
//isn't anyone paying attention?
 
2014-03-17 12:12:12 PM

Egoy3k: Bullseyed: TFA calls out women as handling stress better?

Having seen women burst into tears over the stress of "driving in rush hour traffic" I'm going to call that a load of bullshiat.

It depends on how you look at it. To some people crying could be a method for handling stress.  I mean it's better than committing manslaughter by hitting pedestrians whilst driving on the sidewalk which some people have done.


I'd think its more likely that the tears will lead to makeup smearing, impaired vision, and then sidewalk driving.

But point taken about internalizing versus externalizing stress though. I think it is fair to say that women "deal with" stress by pouring it all over other people versus men dealing with issues.
 
2014-03-17 12:12:56 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: sendtodave: Lady J: mbillips: Jealous, subby?

Alpha males cheat because they can. The same sociopathic tendencies that help you claw your way up in office politics make you more likely to cheat, and make you more attractive to women who want to bang cheaters. We beta males don't have the same opportunities.

alpha =/= sociopathic

but yeah women do like confident men. sorry

Many do, and many like shy, "cute" guys.  A lot of that's cultural, I think.

Western women are sen as too strong for many non-westerners, and would obviously require an even stronger man.  To, you know, keep them in line.

From my experience, women want what the other women around them want.


Far too specific.  People want what other people want.  Doesn't matter the gender, social class, role of the desire or what.  Status symbols are status symbols and people will try to collect them.  I've never understood it.  Particularly with cars.  I love cars, but people have shiatty taste and just follow a brand name or style instead of actually considering what they use a car for.

/I guess they use a car for impressing people though... so sort of makes the point moot.
 
2014-03-17 12:13:21 PM

ts1.mm.bing.net


It wasn't me.

 
2014-03-17 12:18:24 PM

Mock26: Bullseyed: TFA calls out women as handling stress better?

Having seen women burst into tears over the stress of "driving in rush hour traffic" I'm going to call that a load of bullshiat.

Still better than cheating on your significant other.


The point the study behind the article seems to be that men with high stress jobs have less home time and therefore have a less significant relationship with their "significant other," which makes "cheating" easier to do. So it isn't so much of "I'm stressed, lets bang" but more of compounding issue where stress leads to less time together, time together probably is largely consumed of wife nagging husband about not spending time together, which means negative emotions tied to spending time with wife, which leads to positive emotions at bar with coworker discussing project/job/stress, which lead to "lets bang".

Also, I'm not sure why we're using the term "significant other" when the article is pretty strictly about guys banging other women at work instead of their wives. Could just say "wife" instead.
 
2014-03-17 12:18:30 PM

Gaseous Anomaly: mike_d85: Does anyone see where they actually ask people in high ranking positions?  I don't.  It looks more like "we established that the stereotype is that having a top job makes them more likely to cheat because of stress."

I would assume the cheating is true, but I would question the motivation.

It doesn't seem likely that asking them would reveal useful information, they're probably not being honest even with themselves about why they're doing it.


2 points for the weird fart.  I still think the methodology doesn't actually include the "powerful male" cheaters.  At least, not specifically.  You can't even get a façade answer that way.
 
2014-03-17 12:18:39 PM

Bullseyed: TFA calls out women as handling stress better?

Having seen women burst into tears over the stress of "driving in rush hour traffic" I'm going to call that a load of bullshiat.



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2014-03-17 12:20:41 PM

mike_d85: FTFA: According to research by dating site Victoria Milan, which questioned 2,500 people, more than eight in ten (81%) male respondents said that they think having a top job makes them more likely to cheat because of the stress attached to their position and the lack of quality time they can spend with their family.

Does anyone see where they actually ask people in high ranking positions?  I don't.  It looks more like "we established that the stereotype is that having a top job makes them more likely to cheat because of stress."


Correct. The article states "men who cheat THINK that having a high stress job would make them more likely to cheat" while it does not prove or even attempt to prove that reality has any bearing on that perception.
 
2014-03-17 12:23:37 PM
When I worked in radio it was very common for office hookups. A lot of tehm would take place in the parking garage, good ole P4 the lowest level there. Once I moved to a real office environment I knocked that stuff off. I am glad I did I have seen some meltdowns in offices. One woman brought her 2 kids in with her when she found out her husband was cheating, he wasnt there at the time because he was out cheating. When they got in she was flipping out to the point where the cops came. Her husband and the lady he was cheating with both got fired.
 
2014-03-17 12:27:09 PM

browntimmy: Lady J: mbillips: Jealous, subby?

Alpha males cheat because they can. The same sociopathic tendencies that help you claw your way up in office politics make you more likely to cheat, and make you more attractive to women who want to bang cheaters. We beta males don't have the same opportunities.

alpha =/= sociopathic

but yeah women do like confident men. sorry

It is interesting to me that women have such a keen ability to spot weakness/beta tendencies yet are generally terrible at discerning fake bravado. As a guy, I feel like I can just look at a dude's eyes and determine level of doucheness with about 90% accuracy.


there are stupid women just like there are stupid men. stupid women go for fake bravado; smart ones go for real
 
2014-03-17 12:37:27 PM

sendtodave: Cymbal: Ambivalence: It is the power but not in the sense that their job is stressful or demanding, but in the sense that why bother having power if you don't exercise it on office ladies?

Ding ding ding, we have a winner.

Most women find men in power attractive, and most men can't resist pussy that throws itself at them. It's one of life's inevitabilities.

I've also noticed that women can somehow smell if you are taken.  And they like it.


Or men who are taken are less insecure around the opposite sex and that makes the men more attractive.

/being attractive still doesnt justify a man's decisions to cheat
//that booze/cake/woman seduced me into bad behavior! it's not my fault I'm a drunk/fatty/cheating/POS!
 
2014-03-17 12:44:43 PM

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/Hang your heads in shame it took so long
 
2014-03-17 12:50:02 PM
I had a chance to have a small personal gain and had no self control now everything has turned to shiat.

Let me run your business.

I`ll mess it all up for 5 minutes of jelly...
 
2014-03-17 12:55:18 PM
Let me explain Alpha Male vs. Beta Male.

If you are in the 1%, you are an Alpha Male.
If you are in the 99%, you are a Beta Male.

Pretty simple actually.  Those that are Alphas have (or will eventually) rise to the top.  It's just nature.

Furthermore, if you are close to the 1%, it doesn't matter to the Alphas because you are still part of the 99%.  As a matter of fact, the 1% (Alphas) probably see no difference between you and the person at the bottom of the 99%.

Bottom line:  Is there a difference between a Beta Male and an Omega Male?  In the eyes of the Alpha, no.

Enjoy the rest of your day.
 
2014-03-17 01:12:14 PM
When a man cheats, it's he's a worthless scumbag.
When a woman cheats, it's because her worthless scumbag of a husband/boyfriend drove her to do it.
 
2014-03-17 01:16:51 PM

elysive: sendtodave: Cymbal: Ambivalence: It is the power but not in the sense that their job is stressful or demanding, but in the sense that why bother having power if you don't exercise it on office ladies?

Ding ding ding, we have a winner.

Most women find men in power attractive, and most men can't resist pussy that throws itself at them. It's one of life's inevitabilities.

I've also noticed that women can somehow smell if you are taken.  And they like it.

Or men who are taken are less insecure around the opposite sex and that makes the men more attractive.



Women often complain that they are just being friendly to a guy, and it is misconstrued as having sexual interest.

But here, we're saying that guys being friendlier (less insecure) makes women want to fark them more?

I mean, if women were looking for single guys, who would greatly value a relationship with them, shouldn't they be attracted by awkward, insecure, obviously single guys?

Why are women more attracted to guys that other girls are also attracted to (and are thus more likely taken), I guess is the question, if women value fidelity so much?
 
2014-03-17 01:21:26 PM

8 inches: Let me explain Alpha Male vs. Beta Male.

If you are in the 1%, you are an Alpha Male.
If you are in the 99%, you are a Beta Male.

Pretty simple actually.  Those that are Alphas have (or will eventually) rise to the top.  It's just nature.

Furthermore, if you are close to the 1%, it doesn't matter to the Alphas because you are still part of the 99%.  As a matter of fact, the 1% (Alphas) probably see no difference between you and the person at the bottom of the 99%.

Bottom line:  Is there a difference between a Beta Male and an Omega Male?  In the eyes of the Alpha, no.

Enjoy the rest of your day.


You know absolutely nothing about psychology, sociology, or biology.

For one, you completely ignore omega males. Second, you have your percentages all wrong: approximately 15% of men have alpha qualities (being more attractive to women, whether it be physically, financially, intellectually, or emotionally, which means they have more mates throughout their lifetime), 70% of men have beta qualities (being the average men who get married, have kids, and don't take a lot of mates throughout their life), and the remaining 15% have omega tendencies (these would be the least desirable to women, aka your average Farker, having only a few (or no) mates in their lifetime).

People misuse the Alpha/Beta thing. It's not about aggressiveness, money or power. There are certainly some wealthy and powerful betas in existence, and there are plenty of powerless, poor, dumb alphas out there who get by on looks alone.

But the omegas? You guys are stuck with your anime love pillows.
 
2014-03-17 01:32:05 PM

Nix Nightbird: You know absolutely nothing about psychology, sociology, or biology.

For one, you completely ignore omega males. Second, you have your percentages all wrong: approximately 15% of men have alpha qualities (being more attractive to women, whether it be physically, financially, intellectually, or emotionally, which means they have more mates throughout their lifetime), 70% of men have beta qualities (being the average men who get married, have kids, and don't take a lot of mates throughout their life), and the remaining 15% have omega tendencies (these would be the least desirable to women, aka your average Farker, having only a few (or no) mates in their lifetime).

People misuse the Alpha/Beta thing. It's not about aggressiveness, money or power. There are certainly some wealthy and powerful betas in existence, and there are plenty of powerless, poor, dumb alphas out there who get by on looks alone.

But the omegas? You guys are stuck with your anime love pillows.


Interesting thing, I think it was gorillas, or maybe chimps, I forget.  Alphas would challenge other Alphas for the harem.  But as the Alphas are off fighting with other Alphas, Betas would sneak in and boink their females.

The Alphas would, of course, assume that the offspring are theirs.
 
2014-03-17 01:32:38 PM
The alpha/beta male thing is just dick measuring for insecure people who never matured past a mental age of 13.
 
2014-03-17 01:35:57 PM

Russ1642: Bullseyed: TFA calls out women as handling stress better?

Having seen women burst into tears over the stress of "driving in rush hour traffic" I'm going to call that a load of bullshiat.

No kidding. The female response to stress involves crying, ice cream, and shoe shopping.


Sounds better than a heart attack.
 
2014-03-17 01:43:08 PM
Henry Kissinger referred  to power as being the best aphrodisiac.
 
2014-03-17 02:00:01 PM

Nix Nightbird: 8 inches: Let me explain Alpha Male vs. Beta Male.

If you are in the 1%, you are an Alpha Male.
If you are in the 99%, you are a Beta Male.

Pretty simple actually.  Those that are Alphas have (or will eventually) rise to the top.  It's just nature.

Furthermore, if you are close to the 1%, it doesn't matter to the Alphas because you are still part of the 99%.  As a matter of fact, the 1% (Alphas) probably see no difference between you and the person at the bottom of the 99%.

Bottom line:  Is there a difference between a Beta Male and an Omega Male?  In the eyes of the Alpha, no.

Enjoy the rest of your day.

You know absolutely nothing about psychology, sociology, or biology.


This is absolutely, without question, 100% true and accurate.

However, there is one thing I do know something about:  Real Life.
 
2014-03-17 02:06:06 PM

8 inches: Nix Nightbird: 8 inches: Let me explain Alpha Male vs. Beta Male.

If you are in the 1%, you are an Alpha Male.
If you are in the 99%, you are a Beta Male.

Pretty simple actually.  Those that are Alphas have (or will eventually) rise to the top.  It's just nature.

Furthermore, if you are close to the 1%, it doesn't matter to the Alphas because you are still part of the 99%.  As a matter of fact, the 1% (Alphas) probably see no difference between you and the person at the bottom of the 99%.

Bottom line:  Is there a difference between a Beta Male and an Omega Male?  In the eyes of the Alpha, no.

Enjoy the rest of your day.

You know absolutely nothing about psychology, sociology, or biology.

This is absolutely, without question, 100% true and accurate.

However, there is one thing I do know something about:  Real Life.


OH SNAP!

You gots an advanced degree in telling it like it is, and anecdotes!
 
2014-03-17 02:18:15 PM

sendtodave: 8 inches: Nix Nightbird: 8 inches: Let me explain Alpha Male vs. Beta Male.

If you are in the 1%, you are an Alpha Male.
If you are in the 99%, you are a Beta Male.

Pretty simple actually.  Those that are Alphas have (or will eventually) rise to the top.  It's just nature.

Furthermore, if you are close to the 1%, it doesn't matter to the Alphas because you are still part of the 99%.  As a matter of fact, the 1% (Alphas) probably see no difference between you and the person at the bottom of the 99%.

Bottom line:  Is there a difference between a Beta Male and an Omega Male?  In the eyes of the Alpha, no.

Enjoy the rest of your day.

You know absolutely nothing about psychology, sociology, or biology.

This is absolutely, without question, 100% true and accurate.

However, there is one thing I do know something about:  Real Life.

OH SNAP!

You gots an advanced degree in telling it like it is, and anecdotes!


I got my GED from the streets, and my Associates in Hotel Management from the University of Keeping in Real, yall.
 
2014-03-17 02:19:30 PM

sendtodave: elysive: sendtodave: Cymbal: Ambivalence: It is the power but not in the sense that their job is stressful or demanding, but in the sense that why bother having power if you don't exercise it on office ladies?

Ding ding ding, we have a winner.

Most women find men in power attractive, and most men can't resist pussy that throws itself at them. It's one of life's inevitabilities.

I've also noticed that women can somehow smell if you are taken.  And they like it.

Or men who are taken are less insecure around the opposite sex and that makes the men more attractive.


Women often complain that they are just being friendly to a guy, and it is misconstrued as having sexual interest.

But here, we're saying that guys being friendlier (less insecure) makes women want to fark them more?

I mean, if women were looking for single guys, who would greatly value a relationship with them, shouldn't they be attracted by awkward, insecure, obviously single guys?

Why are women more attracted to guys that other girls are also attracted to (and are thus more likely taken), I guess is the question, if women value fidelity so much?


Why do you equate a lack of insecurity with friendliness? I would equate it with confidence (which I suppose some may mistake for friendliness). Confidence is strongly associated with perceived competence. Since single men themselves exude varying degrees of confidence/competence, and since I'm guessing that even mega arrogant cheating jackasses reproduce more than the meek, it is not terribly surprising from a genetic or social perspective that human females continue to be attracted to confident men.
 
2014-03-17 02:31:01 PM

mbillips: Jealous, subby?

Alpha males cheat because they can. The same sociopathic tendencies that help you claw your way up in office politics make you more likely to cheat, and make you more attractive to women who want to bang cheaters. We beta males don't have the same opportunities.


If you still class human beings as 'alphas' and 'betas', I have a few hundred years of scientific advancement to introduce you to.
 
2014-03-17 02:44:54 PM

elysive: I would equate it with confidence (which I suppose some may mistake for friendliness).


You gotta have confidence to be friendly.  Painfully shy persons tend to not make lots of friends.

But I'm more commenting on the whole "I want a good guy -- that other women also want" aspect of it all.  In expecting him to turn down all the other women who want him, there is an inherent degree of competition going on.  The man becomes a prize.

Like my wife once told me, "We don't get all dressed up and sexy for men.  We do it for other women."

Which seems both self evident, and also kinda nuts.
 
2014-03-17 02:51:22 PM
So clinton is an asshole. Gotcha.
 
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