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(WNCN Raleigh)   Duke Energy twirls moustache as it purposefully pumps coal ash wastewater into NC river   (wncn.com) divider line 77
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2014-03-16 10:45:29 PM
More free coal ash minerals in the river? They should be THANKING Duke Energy, not investigating them!
 
2014-03-16 10:45:31 PM
...and tells a fat bald film critic to give him good press
 
2014-03-16 10:45:49 PM
Duke sucks
 
2014-03-16 10:46:24 PM
Because f*ck you, that's why.
 
2014-03-16 10:47:54 PM
Subby needs to apologize to duke right now for his shameful treatment.
 
2014-03-16 10:48:06 PM
img4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-03-16 10:49:12 PM
static.giantbomb.com
 
2014-03-16 10:49:33 PM
First they mess up the life of an honest commodities trader over a measly $1 bet and then try to make ill-gotten gains in the frozen orange juice concentrate market.  When will they ever learn their lesson?
 
2014-03-16 10:50:00 PM
No problem.  The free market will police itself.  Move along, citizen.
 
2014-03-16 10:51:14 PM
www.thomsonsafaris.com
 
2014-03-16 10:51:26 PM
Why shouldn't they? What happened in West Virginia proves you can pollute anything you want and get away with it.

On a related topic, does anyone else think "Eric Brockovich" would have been funnier if she had told the other attorneys that the water they were drinking was from one of PG&E's wells AFTER they drank it?
 
2014-03-16 10:51:34 PM
For all those voters who installed a former executive of Duke Energy as their governor in order to stick it to the libs:

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2014-03-16 10:52:06 PM

ImpendingCynic: "Eric Brockovich"

Erin, dammit.
 
2014-03-16 10:55:29 PM
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There is absolutely no truth to this rumor.
 
2014-03-16 10:56:13 PM
Actually, as the article points out, they have a discharge permit and the pumping may or may not be allowed,  Regulators need to check the permit and check what exactly they're discharging.  They might be doing something bad or might not.  But the evil greedy villain angle fits our preconceptions better.
 
2014-03-16 10:57:14 PM
Really? What purpose were they hoping to serve by this act?
 
2014-03-16 10:57:48 PM
Well, you can't expect them to treat their sludge before they release it into the river.  That would entail costs that would get passed down to the rate payers!
 
2014-03-16 10:58:13 PM
Where is Dick Vitale?  Shouldn't he be proclaiming Duke Energy to be the best in the business with their Anthracite Dandies and their Peat Phenoms?  "IT'S COAL ASH WASTEWATER BABY!"
 
2014-03-16 10:58:39 PM

WanPhat: Actually, as the article points out, they have a discharge permit and the pumping may or may not be allowed,  Regulators need to check the permit and check what exactly they're discharging.  They might be doing something bad or might not.  But the evil greedy villain angle fits our preconceptions better.


Energy companies won't suck your dick.
 
2014-03-16 11:01:45 PM
farking hipsters!!!
 
2014-03-16 11:03:33 PM
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Approves
 
2014-03-16 11:09:45 PM

Smackledorfer: WanPhat: Actually, as the article points out, they have a discharge permit and the pumping may or may not be allowed,  Regulators need to check the permit and check what exactly they're discharging.  They might be doing something bad or might not.  But the evil greedy villain angle fits our preconceptions better.

Energy companies won't suck your dick.


No, sadly, it's true.

Just because it's evil and immoral may not make it illegal; which makes it even more reprehensible.
 
2014-03-16 11:09:48 PM
See that is why you have a Governor as one of your major share holders when you do something illegal like destroy several rivers to make a quick buck.
 
2014-03-16 11:09:56 PM

Smackledorfer: WanPhat: Actually, as the article points out, they have a discharge permit and the pumping may or may not be allowed,  Regulators need to check the permit and check what exactly they're discharging.  They might be doing something bad or might not.  But the evil greedy villain angle fits our preconceptions better.

Energy companies won't suck your dick.


all WanPhat did was to point out 'An Inconvenient Truth' to counter your preconceived narrative
 
2014-03-16 11:11:07 PM
i.imgur.com

ORLY?
 
2014-03-16 11:14:05 PM

Gyrfalcon: Smackledorfer: WanPhat: Actually, as the article points out, they have a discharge permit and the pumping may or may not be allowed,  Regulators need to check the permit and check what exactly they're discharging.  They might be doing something bad or might not.  But the evil greedy villain angle fits our preconceptions better.

Energy companies won't suck your dick.

No, sadly, it's true.

Just because it's evil and immoral may not make it illegal; which makes it even more reprehensible.


Of course the fact that the pumping permit is probably contingent on passing water quality testing prior during and after any pumping events doesn't play into the 'evil and immoral' argument does it?

You could keep an open mind and collect the facts behind this discharge or well just keep going down this road.
 
2014-03-16 11:14:52 PM

WanPhat: Actually, as the article points out, they have a discharge permit and the pumping may or may not be allowed,  Regulators need to check the permit and check what exactly they're discharging.  They might be doing something bad or might not.  But the evil greedy villain angle fits our preconceptions better.





The regulators were all laid off next last year, so it's legal.
 
2014-03-16 11:15:07 PM

Gleeman: [i.imgur.com image 492x302]

ORLY?


The hell? Coal isn't carbon-neutral. It's almost solid carbon.
 
2014-03-16 11:15:21 PM
Contrast this with changing your oil and dumping it in your yard all willy-nilly and see what happens.
 
2014-03-16 11:15:57 PM

Gleeman: ORLY?


Not really!
 
2014-03-16 11:20:00 PM

Sim Tree: Gleeman: [i.imgur.com image 492x302]

ORLY?

The hell? Coal isn't carbon-neutral. It's almost solid carbon.


Yes but in 250 million years maybe plants will capture that carbon and then eventually get buried under high enough pressure to become coal again. the circle of life
 
2014-03-16 11:20:52 PM

Gyrfalcon: Smackledorfer: WanPhat: Actually, as the article points out, they have a discharge permit and the pumping may or may not be allowed,  Regulators need to check the permit and check what exactly they're discharging.  They might be doing something bad or might not.  But the evil greedy villain angle fits our preconceptions better.

Energy companies won't suck your dick.

No, sadly, it's true.

Just because it's evil and immoral may not make it illegal; which makes it even more reprehensible.


I read the article too. But evil greedy villians remain evil and greedy even when not tying maidens to the railroad.

The conceptions we have of coal companies is well earned.
 
2014-03-16 11:21:03 PM

Blink: No problem.  The free market will police itself.  Move along, citizen.


Exactly! If people in NC don't want coal ash in their water, they'll buy their electricity from one of Duke's many competitors.
 
2014-03-16 11:22:53 PM

WanPhat: Actually, as the article points out, they have a discharge permit and the pumping may or may not be allowed,  Regulators need to check the permit and check what exactly they're discharging.  They might be doing something bad or might not.  But the evil greedy villain angle fits our preconceptions better.


The article also points out that DENR and Duke's stories don't match up with regards to whether or not they were allowed to do this.
 
2014-03-16 11:22:54 PM

Sim Tree: Gleeman: [i.imgur.com image 492x302]

ORLY?

The hell? Coal isn't carbon-neutral. It's almost solid carbon.


That's a typo. It should read
CLEAN, CARBON, NEUTRAL COAL

/Like Switzerland
 
2014-03-16 11:25:51 PM

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: WanPhat: Actually, as the article points out, they have a discharge permit and the pumping may or may not be allowed,  Regulators need to check the permit and check what exactly they're discharging.  They might be doing something bad or might not.  But the evil greedy villain angle fits our preconceptions better.




The regulators were all laid off next last year, so it's legal.


Exactly. DENR was neutered by the General Assembly/McCrory tag-team. Even if what Duke Energy is doing is illegal, we likely won't find out. And the governor's office would use DENR's authority to negotiate a slap on the wrist even IF it could be proven it was illegal.

This may well be entirely above board, but the relationship between Duke Energy and the state government is so obviously corrupt that neither one deserve the benefit of the doubt.

/don't blame me, I haven't voted for an (R) since 2008
//Even Cherie Berry lost my vote
 
2014-03-16 11:27:26 PM

Smackledorfer: Gyrfalcon: Smackledorfer: WanPhat: Actually, as the article points out, they have a discharge permit and the pumping may or may not be allowed,  Regulators need to check the permit and check what exactly they're discharging.  They might be doing something bad or might not.  But the evil greedy villain angle fits our preconceptions better.

Energy companies won't suck your dick.

No, sadly, it's true.

Just because it's evil and immoral may not make it illegal; which makes it even more reprehensible.

I read the article too. But evil greedy villians remain evil and greedy even when not tying maidens to the railroad.

The conceptions we have of coal companies is well earned.


True.

But just like with the Occupy Movement, you need to direct your ire to things that can be amended via ire..ness (?) and not just because they seem like they should be wrong. If coal ash effluent meets the minimum standard of what can be discharged into a river, then the problem is not the evil, greedy coal company, which is doing the minimum it has to do to meet the standard. Yes, it would be nicer if they did more than the bare minimum; but they don't have to by law.

If you want to make things better, pointing angrily at the coal companies and screaming "Stop being so evil and greedy!" won't work. You need to get into the regulatory agencies and make the standards higher. Apparently the coal companies are not averse to meeting those standards and jacking their rates accordingly; so be ired (?) at the standards, which can be changed, instead of at the coal company CEOs, who have the law on their side. Laws can be changed. Human nature cannot.
 
2014-03-16 11:29:39 PM

Sim Tree: Gleeman: [i.imgur.com image 492x302]

ORLY?

The hell? Coal isn't carbon-neutral. It's almost solid carbon.


But it was carbon that was already there and carbon is required for human existance. They just render it into fine particles so it can spread around the globe and perpetuate that great chain... of life!

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-16 11:30:36 PM

Gyrfalcon: Smackledorfer: Gyrfalcon: Smackledorfer: WanPhat: Actually, as the article points out, they have a discharge permit and the pumping may or may not be allowed,  Regulators need to check the permit and check what exactly they're discharging.  They might be doing something bad or might not.  But the evil greedy villain angle fits our preconceptions better.

Energy companies won't suck your dick.

No, sadly, it's true.

Just because it's evil and immoral may not make it illegal; which makes it even more reprehensible.

I read the article too. But evil greedy villians remain evil and greedy even when not tying maidens to the railroad.

The conceptions we have of coal companies is well earned.

True.

But just like with the Occupy Movement, you need to direct your ire to things that can be amended via ire..ness (?) and not just because they seem like they should be wrong. If coal ash effluent meets the minimum standard of what can be discharged into a river, then the problem is not the evil, greedy coal company, which is doing the minimum it has to do to meet the standard. Yes, it would be nicer if they did more than the bare minimum; but they don't have to by law.

If you want to make things better, pointing angrily at the coal companies and screaming "Stop being so evil and greedy!" won't work. You need to get into the regulatory agencies and make the standards higher. Apparently the coal companies are not averse to meeting those standards and jacking their rates accordingly; so be ired (?) at the standards, which can be changed, instead of at the coal company CEOs, who have the law on their side. Laws can be changed. Human nature cannot.


I make things better by giving to the clean water fund and clean water action.

My ire is separate.

/though i am a secret reverse nimby as I like my stretch of water warmed by a local plant :)
 
2014-03-16 11:32:46 PM
If there were any way to isolate the environmental damage from this kind of asshattery to the farktarded red states that let people get away with it I'd tell them go nuts.  I'd love nothing more than for the people who enable this kind of shiat to reap what they sow.
 
2014-03-16 11:38:37 PM
Looks like they hauled a pump up there and thought they'd bust off a couple hundred thousand gallons of well-settled waste water before anyone noticed.

BUSTED.

/By "carbon neutral" they mean that no carbon is created or destroyed by the burning of coal.
 
2014-03-16 11:56:42 PM

KidKorporate: If there were any way to isolate the environmental damage from this kind of asshattery to the farktarded red states that let people get away with it I'd tell them go nuts.  I'd love nothing more than for the people who enable this kind of shiat to reap what they sow.


NC is a swing state.
 
2014-03-16 11:59:19 PM

WanPhat: Actually, as the article points out, they have a discharge permit and the pumping may or may not be allowed,  Regulators need to check the permit and check what exactly they're discharging.  They might be doing something bad or might not.  But the evil greedy villain angle fits our preconceptions better.


 Right. Because they've already shown themselves to be sooo trustworthy.
 
2014-03-17 12:02:51 AM
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2014-03-17 12:05:01 AM

Representative of the unwashed masses: Smackledorfer: WanPhat: Actually, as the article points out, they have a discharge permit and the pumping may or may not be allowed,  Regulators need to check the permit and check what exactly they're discharging.  They might be doing something bad or might not.  But the evil greedy villain angle fits our preconceptions better.

Energy companies won't suck your dick.

all WanPhat did was to point out 'An Inconvenient Truth' to counter your preconceived narrative


Counter-Counter argument: Given the shiat Duke Energy has been up torecently in NC, why exactly should we give them the benefit of the doubt?
 
2014-03-17 12:08:56 AM

juvandy: Duke sucks pumps


ftfy
 
2014-03-17 12:12:11 AM
 
2014-03-17 12:26:55 AM
Came for a reference to The East or Ellen Page,   then I realized nobody saw that movie.
 
2014-03-17 12:32:21 AM

Felgraf: Representative of the unwashed masses: Smackledorfer: WanPhat: Actually, as the article points out, they have a discharge permit and the pumping may or may not be allowed,  Regulators need to check the permit and check what exactly they're discharging.  They might be doing something bad or might not.  But the evil greedy villain angle fits our preconceptions better.

Energy companies won't suck your dick.

all WanPhat did was to point out 'An Inconvenient Truth' to counter your preconceived narrative

Counter-Counter argument: Given the shiat Duke Energy has been up torecently in NC, why exactly should we give them the benefit of the doubt?


You'd have to be pretty arrogant to set up pumps in broad daylight to discharge water like that...
 
2014-03-17 12:33:28 AM

Representative of the unwashed masses: Felgraf: Representative of the unwashed masses: Smackledorfer: WanPhat: Actually, as the article points out, they have a discharge permit and the pumping may or may not be allowed,  Regulators need to check the permit and check what exactly they're discharging.  They might be doing something bad or might not.  But the evil greedy villain angle fits our preconceptions better.

Energy companies won't suck your dick.

all WanPhat did was to point out 'An Inconvenient Truth' to counter your preconceived narrative

Counter-Counter argument: Given the shiat Duke Energy has been up torecently in NC, why exactly should we give them the benefit of the doubt?

You'd have to be pretty arrogant to set up pumps in broad daylight to discharge water like that...


See above.
 
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