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(Anniston Star)   This is why you can't have nice things, Alabama: "(Joseph) McCarthy didn't go far enough," or how the Common Core is a Communist plot against all true, red-blooded Americuns, dagnabbit   (annistonstar.com ) divider line
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2014-03-16 11:27:06 PM  
The Star asked Beason and other critics of the College and Career Ready Standards - tea party and Republican activists and a leader of the conservative Eagle Forum - to point out specific passages in the standards that they found objectionable.

Those who responded said it wasn't that simple.


Translation: we don't even know what's in it but if that blah guy in the White House is fer it were agin' it!
 
2014-03-16 11:33:35 PM  
God are we going to have another Common Core Derpfest again? Goll-lee.
 
2014-03-16 11:35:11 PM  

fusillade762: The Star asked Beason and other critics of the College and Career Ready Standards - tea party and Republican activists and a leader of the conservative Eagle Forum - to point out specific passages in the standards that they found objectionable.

Those who responded said it wasn't that simple.

Translation: we don't even know what's in it but if that blah guy in the White House is fer it were agin' it!


I think what they meant was "We can't read."
 
2014-03-16 11:37:25 PM  
FTFA

Beason put his own flag on "The Crucible," Arthur Miller's play about the Salem witch trials. The senator thinks it's unfair that the textbook attached a sidebar asking students about parallels between the witch trials and Sen. Joseph McCarthy and the Red Scare of the early 1950s, in which numerous writers and others - including Arthur Miller - were accused of having communist sympathies.

McCarthy was right about most of the people he accused, Beason claims.

"So we're comparing the McCarthy investigations of the 1950s, in which he turned out to be right, with the Salem witch hunts," Beason said.


Oh. My. God.
 
2014-03-16 11:38:59 PM  
"Now that all the records are out, it's clear that McCarthy didn't go far enough," he said.

What records would those be?  You mean the ones that document how McCarthy lied his ass off about everything?
 
2014-03-16 11:39:01 PM  
"Now that all the records are out, it's clear that McCarthy didn't go far enough," he said.

Ah, the America right. Like some some over-the-hill, punch drunk boxer hearing bells in his head and coming off his chair swinging at ghosts.

In this case the specter of global communism.

...an insidious plan to introduce left-wing materials into the classroom.

More RW projection from the book banner/burners who have made a concentrated effort towards slanting grade school text books towards RW historic revisionism when they aren't actively trying to stop sexual education classes or get Creationism taught in science class.
 
2014-03-16 11:40:38 PM  

fusillade762: The Star asked Beason and other critics of the College and Career Ready Standards - tea party and Republican activists and a leader of the conservative Eagle Forum - to point out specific passages in the standards that they found objectionable.

Those who responded said it wasn't that simple.

Translation: we don't even know what's in it but if that blah guy in the White House is fer it were agin' it!


All of it?
 
2014-03-16 11:40:57 PM  
When one of your heroes is a paranoid alcoholic, you might wanna look at your values.
 
2014-03-16 11:41:07 PM  
The sad thing is, there are some decently valid points against common core education out there, but because the loudest voices against it say things like "common core will turn kids into communist homosexual satan worshiping muslim athiests", it disappears among the crazed, right-wing noise.
 
2014-03-16 11:41:27 PM  
Fun fact: Jack Kerouac would watch the McCarthy hearings smoking dope and rooting for Joe
 
2014-03-16 11:41:51 PM  
"I don't think anybody's opposed to 'To Kill a Mockingbird,'" he said. "It's a classic. I believe it's written by a fellow from Montgomery."


My favorite part.
 
2014-03-16 11:42:27 PM  
I've never read "The Bluest Eye", but I do wonder about Morrison's knowledge of anatomy when she says an anus has lips. But perhaps the line refers to a member of the Alabama GOP.
 
2014-03-16 11:43:54 PM  

Frank N Stein: Fun fact: Jack Kerouac would watch the McCarthy hearings smoking dope and rooting for Joe


And let me guess, MLK was an adulterer and Ghandi was a racist.

Yeah we love it when trip yourself up in your own derp so bad it leaves a smudge.
 
2014-03-16 11:43:56 PM  

CheetahOlivetti: I've never read "The Bluest Eye", but I do wonder about Morrison's knowledge of anatomy when she says an anus has lips. But perhaps the line refers to a member of the Alabama GOP.


You never heard someone fart, and then some wag in the room declaim "Speak on, sweet lips that ne'er told a lie!"
 
2014-03-16 11:44:00 PM  
Thanks Subby For linking to Anniston Star...one of the best news papers in the South.

And I need to get a subscription now---it's a great news paper...and a sucky website, I'm going to have to call them tomorrow to get the subscription.
 
2014-03-16 11:45:03 PM  

whidbey: Frank N Stein: Fun fact: Jack Kerouac would watch the McCarthy hearings smoking dope and rooting for Joe

And let me guess, MLK was an adulterer and Ghandi was a racist.

Yeah we love it when trip yourself up in your own derp so bad it leaves a smudge.


Wut
 
2014-03-16 11:46:29 PM  

Frank N Stein: whidbey: Frank N Stein: Fun fact: Jack Kerouac would watch the McCarthy hearings smoking dope and rooting for Joe

And let me guess, MLK was an adulterer and Ghandi was a racist.

Yeah we love it when trip yourself up in your own derp so bad it leaves a smudge.

Wut


HOW DARE I peg it on the nose, you mean.
 
2014-03-16 11:49:33 PM  

whidbey: Frank N Stein: whidbey: Frank N Stein: Fun fact: Jack Kerouac would watch the McCarthy hearings smoking dope and rooting for Joe

And let me guess, MLK was an adulterer and Ghandi was a racist.

Yeah we love it when trip yourself up in your own derp so bad it leaves a smudge.

Wut

HOW DARE I peg it on the nose, you mean.


I don't even know what you're trying to say.
 
2014-03-16 11:51:13 PM  
Common Core? Don't tell me they're turning against the MARINES now.
 
2014-03-16 11:51:26 PM  
I can no longer sit back and allow Common Core infiltration, Common Core  indoctrination, Common Core subversion, and the international Common Core conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

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2014-03-16 11:52:15 PM  
McCarthy was right about most of the people he accused, Beason claims.
 "Now that all the records are out, it's clear that McCarthy didn't go far enough," he said.

Sweet Jesus these people are stupid. I mean...uh...citation needed.
 
2014-03-16 11:54:23 PM  

whidbey: Frank N Stein: Fun fact: Jack Kerouac would watch the McCarthy hearings smoking dope and rooting for Joe

And let me guess, MLK was an adulterer and Ghandi was a racist.

Yeah we love it when trip yourself up in your own derp so bad it leaves a smudge. con


Sadly, whidbey, Kerouac was notoriously conservative and it is indeed plausible that Frankie is correct.
 
2014-03-16 11:57:06 PM  

Gway: whidbey: Frank N Stein: Fun fact: Jack Kerouac would watch the McCarthy hearings smoking dope and rooting for Joe

And let me guess, MLK was an adulterer and Ghandi was a racist.

Yeah we love it when trip yourself up in your own derp so bad it leaves a smudge. con

Sadly, whidbey, Kerouac was notoriously conservative and it is indeed plausible that Frankie is correct.


*shrugs*

I don't even feel your defense of an obvious troll is worthy of a real reply.
 
2014-03-16 11:57:23 PM  

Lochsteppe: fusillade762: The Star asked Beason and other critics of the College and Career Ready Standards - tea party and Republican activists and a leader of the conservative Eagle Forum - to point out specific passages in the standards that they found objectionable.

Those who responded said it wasn't that simple.

Translation: we don't even know what's in it but if that blah guy in the White House is fer it were agin' it!

I think what they meant was "We can't read."


That's highly intellectual a comment for these types, whom are more used to saying "UGGH!" and "GUH!".
 
2014-03-16 11:58:04 PM  

Gyrfalcon: CheetahOlivetti: I've never read "The Bluest Eye", but I do wonder about Morrison's knowledge of anatomy when she says an anus has lips. But perhaps the line refers to a member of the Alabama GOP.

You never heard someone fart, and then some wag in the room declaim "Speak on, sweet lips that ne'er told a lie!"


The Bluest Eye?  More like the Brownest Eye...
 
2014-03-16 11:58:27 PM  

Frank N Stein: whidbey: Frank N Stein: whidbey: Frank N Stein: Fun fact: Jack Kerouac would watch the McCarthy hearings smoking dope and rooting for Joe

And let me guess, MLK was an adulterer and Ghandi was a racist.

Yeah we love it when trip yourself up in your own derp so bad it leaves a smudge.

Wut

HOW DARE I peg it on the nose, you mean.

I don't even know what you're trying to say.


Of course you don't. And I know you think this is such a victory against annoying liberals everywhere.
 
2014-03-17 12:01:03 AM  

Fuggin Bizzy: McCarthy was right about most of the people he accused, Beason claims.
 "Now that all the records are out, it's clear that McCarthy didn't go far enough," he said.

Sweet Jesus these people are stupid. I mean...uh...citation needed.


Some on the right have been trying to white wash McCarthy pretty hard the past few years.   Like all bullshiat, there's a smigen of truth they use to justify EVERYTHING.

Like there actually WAS a Hollywood actor that was a Soviet agent.  Wasn't one that McCarthy actually accused, but that means he was right about all his false accusations and blank lists and empty binders and what not.
 
2014-03-17 12:01:05 AM  
Also, I understand the rational for things like the Hollywood blacklist. But damn, I wonder how many films on the calibre of Zulu (Directed by a blacklisted director) could have been made.
 
2014-03-17 12:02:13 AM  

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2014-03-17 12:02:56 AM  

Frank N Stein: Also, I understand the rational for things like the Hollywood blacklist. But damn, I wonder how many films on the calibre of Zulu (Directed by a blacklisted director) could have been made.


What rational?  This is the United States of America.  We don't have banned political parties and shiat like that here.  Even if people actually WERE in favor of communism, that's not a crime.
 
2014-03-17 12:03:20 AM  

Frank N Stein: Also, I understand the rational for things like the Hollywood blacklist.


lolwut

dude you're on a roll tonight
 
2014-03-17 12:03:40 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Fuggin Bizzy: McCarthy was right about most of the people he accused, Beason claims.
 "Now that all the records are out, it's clear that McCarthy didn't go far enough," he said.

Sweet Jesus these people are stupid. I mean...uh...citation needed.

Some on the right have been trying to white wash McCarthy pretty hard the past few years.   Like all bullshiat, there's a smigen of truth they use to justify EVERYTHING.

Like there actually WAS a Hollywood actor that was a Soviet agent.  Wasn't one that McCarthy actually accused, but that means he was right about all his false accusations and blank lists and empty binders and what not.


Since the lead up to WWII, Hollywood has been viewed by the government as their own plaything in which they can influence the American public. Foreign agents have realized this too around the same time. Blacklists were just the logical outcome during the 2nd red scare.
 
2014-03-17 12:05:08 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Frank N Stein: Also, I understand the rational for things like the Hollywood blacklist. But damn, I wonder how many films on the calibre of Zulu (Directed by a blacklisted director) could have been made.

What rational?  This is the United States of America.  We don't have banned political parties and shiat like that here.  Even if people actually WERE in favor of communism, that's not a crime.


I'm not saying it's right (I don't think it is). I just understand the rational of making sure that the propaganda machine is running in your favor.
 
2014-03-17 12:05:39 AM  
Gyrfalcon: CheetahOlivetti: I've never read "The Bluest Eye", but I do wonder about Morrison's knowledge of anatomy when she says an anus has lips. But perhaps the line refers to a member of the Alabama GOP.

You never heard someone fart, and then some wag in the room declaim "Speak on, sweet lips that ne'er told a lie!"

No, but I'm totally stealing that now.

Usually I go with "Pretty good sound from a 1/4 inch speaker. The bass was especially impressive"
 
2014-03-17 12:05:56 AM  
Gee, and here I thought the opposition to common core was about the danger of southern kids learning that the civil wars was actually started by them and over slavery, and not the bullshiat anti-Yankee propaganda that they currently teach.  But apparently the derp goes far deeper than I imagined.
 
2014-03-17 12:07:31 AM  

Frank N Stein: I just understand the rational of making sure that the propaganda machine is running in your favor.


www.vanityfair.com

agrees
 
2014-03-17 12:08:25 AM  
one wonders what the correlation between these folks and folks who believe the south will rise again is.
 
2014-03-17 12:09:51 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Frank N Stein: Also, I understand the rational for things like the Hollywood blacklist. But damn, I wonder how many films on the calibre of Zulu (Directed by a blacklisted director) could have been made.

What rational?  This is the United States of America.  We don't have banned political parties and shiat like that here.  Even if people actually WERE in favor of communism, that's not a crime.


You may want to look into something known as the "The Red Scare"

Back during the Cold War, there was a constant fear that the commies were coming to get you and steal your children and everything you love and hold dear. The moral fabric of America was strong and proud, but if given the chance, Communism would swoop in and piss all over the fabric, so you always had to be diligent against the red menace.

While communism itself wasn't illegal, it was effectively a scarlet letter. Anyone even rumored to be a communist practically had their lives ruined, regardless of how substantial the rumors were.

And a lot of that was thanks to Good Ol' Joe McCarthy.
 
2014-03-17 12:11:31 AM  
Me and old Joe spending some quality time together...
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2014-03-17 12:12:58 AM  

pheed: Me and old Joe spending some quality time together...


This is just begging for a photoshop.
 
2014-03-17 12:13:56 AM  

Frank N Stein: pheed: Me and old Joe spending some quality time together...

This is just begging for a photoshop.


hurr durr put a fedora on it euphoric durr
 
2014-03-17 12:15:49 AM  

whidbey: Frank N Stein: Fun fact: Jack Kerouac would watch the McCarthy hearings smoking dope and rooting for Joe

And let me guess, MLK was an adulterer and Ghandi was a racist.

Yeah we love it when trip yourself up in your own derp so bad it leaves a smudge.


MLK was a Republican, in their Fox-addled fantasies.  Never mind he was pro-labor, pro-union, anti-war, critical of capitalism as implemented in 1960s America and all around well to the left of most Democrats.

Then again, his philandering would put him right at home among Republicans.
 
2014-03-17 12:17:53 AM  

skepticultist: Gee, and here I thought the opposition to common core was about the danger of southern kids learning that the civil wars was actually started by them and over slavery, and not the bullshiat anti-Yankee propaganda that they currently teach.  But apparently the derp goes far deeper than I imagined.


It's about accreditation. Some of the "schools" that only show Bible cartoons might loose some funding.
 
2014-03-17 12:24:37 AM  

whidbey: Frank N Stein: pheed: Me and old Joe spending some quality time together...

This is just begging for a photoshop.

hurr durr put a fedora on it euphoric durr


Lol
 
2014-03-17 12:27:36 AM  

whidbey: Gway: whidbey: Frank N Stein: Fun fact: Jack Kerouac would watch the McCarthy hearings smoking dope and rooting for Joe

And let me guess, MLK was an adulterer and Ghandi was a racist.

Yeah we love it when trip yourself up in your own derp so bad it leaves a smudge. con

Sadly, whidbey, Kerouac was notoriously conservative and it is indeed plausible that Frankie is correct.

*shrugs*

I don't even feel your defense of an obvious troll is worthy of a real reply.


Again whidbey (and I agree with most- if not all of your posts) I said plausible.... In the biography "Jack's Book", Gifford and Lee surmise, "Jack had shocked his friends with an occasional defense of Senator Joseph McCarthy and his paranoiac Communist-hunting of the early 1950's..." (page 232.)

Please educate yourself on this matter... You did have me chasing up and down stairs, looking for a citation. I could, perhaps, provide more.
 
2014-03-17 12:28:03 AM  
Frank N Stein: Satanic_Hamster:  Frank N Stein: Also, I understand the rational for things like the Hollywood blacklist. But damn, I wonder how many films on the calibre of Zulu (Directed by a blacklisted director) could have been made.

What rational?  This is the United States of America.  We don't have banned political parties and shiat like that here.  Even if people actually WERE in favor of communism, that's not a crime.

I'm not saying it's right (I don't think it is). I just understand the rational of making sure that the propaganda machine is running in your favor.


Guys - one minor request:  The word you are both abusing is 'Rationale'.  With an 'E' on the end, even if it does make it look all Dan Quayle 'potatoe'.

'Rational' means reasonable or logical.  'Rationale' is a justification for something.  I don't normally go all spelling-Nazi, but for some reason, that one grates on my eyeballs.

Apologies.  We now return you to your regularly scheduled argument clinic.
 
2014-03-17 12:29:09 AM  
(... and it's pronounced like 'ration'-'al'.  Like some guy named 'Al' who's in charge of rationing...)
 
2014-03-17 12:30:40 AM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Frank N Stein: Satanic_Hamster:  Frank N Stein: Also, I understand the rational for things like the Hollywood blacklist. But damn, I wonder how many films on the calibre of Zulu (Directed by a blacklisted director) could have been made.

What rational?  This is the United States of America.  We don't have banned political parties and shiat like that here.  Even if people actually WERE in favor of communism, that's not a crime.

I'm not saying it's right (I don't think it is). I just understand the rational of making sure that the propaganda machine is running in your favor.

Guys - one minor request:  The word you are both abusing is 'Rationale'.  With an 'E' on the end, even if it does make it look all Dan Quayle 'potatoe'.

'Rational' means reasonable or logical.  'Rationale' is a justification for something.  I don't normally go all spelling-Nazi, but for some reason, that one grates on my eyeballs.

Apologies.  We now return you to your regularly scheduled argument clinic.


D'oh! You're right.
 
2014-03-17 12:31:18 AM  

whidbey: www.vanityfair.com

agrees


It must be hot in that room. It looks like Rove's face is melting, like so much Velveeta cheese.

"Hey Karl. Sorry, but - is that your right jowel laying in your lap?"
 
2014-03-17 12:33:10 AM  
A bulge of desire ran down his genitals and softened the lips of his anus
(...)
These things have been coming in through the back door for a long time
(...)
It's ripped me to pieces.
(...)
It's clear that McCarthy didn't go far enough
(...)
It doesn't sound like we're being very good folks, does it?


Honestly, most quotes and lectures from those folks sound like pieces of a model kit of very bad pornographic literature.
 
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