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(Des Moines Register)   Since a Republican governor was elected in Iowa, his administration has paid nearly $300,000 to six former state employees who were fired because they voted for Democrats and clearly weren't qualified to do the jobs they'd been doing for years   ( desmoinesregister.com) divider line
    More: Fail, Democrat Party, Iowa, Republicans, Iowa Appeal Board, design engineer, Terry Branstad, Iowa Attorney General, confidentiality agreements  
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2014-03-17 05:48:15 AM  

AnonAmbientLight: I get on fark, and i always see stupid to borderline comic book evil stunts by Republicans. 

I know that both sides have it's stinkers, and that Democrats are not pure either. But, i might have a bias here in thinking that the Democrats don't do nearly as much awful shiat as the Republicans do, at least not in the last 4-5 years.

Am i missing something? Am i in an echo chamber, or is it wrong for me to think that Republicans are really just spiteful, hateful, assholes? 

I mean, Sarah Palin went to a CPAC or a Cwhatever with a 48oz coke yelling freedom for what some Democrat did in New York, and on the other hand, people CAN NOT VOTE in some states because of Republican voter disenfranchisement.


If you mean Bloomberg, he was an ex-Republican independent, who ran on the Republican ballot line.
 
2014-03-17 06:27:22 AM  
fta "No cronyism, no conspiracies, just better quality projects, completed on time and at a savings to the taxpayer," Hunter said.

So it's common and routine for the state of Iowa to pay its laid off employees $5k to sign a confidentiality agreement?
 
2014-03-17 07:03:15 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: tbeatty: Farkin_Crazy: tbeatty: Democrats complaining that their jobs and TPS reports are required bureaucracy is not new.  Eliminating both the reports and their authors save more money than the payout.  Let them keep their staplers and Move On.

Yes.

Must hide cronyism. It works.

Do you have any problem with a GOP governor paying for this with tax payers money? I bet not.

Yes I do.  Downsizing government TPS reports should be bipartisan, despite SEIU.  Yet retards insist that incompetent people be employed for life.  Retards.  Detroit, Chicago  and prisons are replete with these assholes.  Nothing should be named "Daley" except prisons.

Who is the retard that should be jailed that you speak of in this instance? Branstad? These people, who were wrongly fired according to what seems to be hush money payments, were cut loose because of their political affiliations.


You do not understand, it is perfectly OK to do it if the purpose is to "stick it to the libs".
 
2014-03-17 08:29:13 AM  
fusillade762:

Well, in this particular case I don't think you see Democrats stacking agencies with incompetent partisan cronies often because they tend to believe government should actually work effectively. When you believe, as Republicans these days seem to, that the government is always the problem and is hopelessly broken it tends to become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

That's the basis of one of Thomas Frank's (What's the Matter With Kansas) books. Great read, very enlightening for me.

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2014-03-17 09:02:15 AM  
I have been a state employee for about 20 years, not in Iowa, but it is pretty much the same everywhere.  I can tell you that this happens everywhere.  If you hand out flyers with photo-shopped pictures of Republicans in KKK robes standing by burning crosses or Democrats serving aborted fetuses on Hoagie rolls at work and your guy loses the election things will not turn out well for you.  If you aren't a political appointee don't talk politics at work, you are there to do a job, just do it.  Hell even if you are a political appointee there is nothing to gain by talking politics.  I know one person who was a political appointee who served through 9 administrations both Democrat and Republican because he did his job, did it well and didn't get involved in politics at work.   On your own time you can do what you want, You can donate money, work on campaigns, lead demonstrations, testify before the legislature, just keep it out of the office and no one cares.

They settled 6 cases for a total of less than $300,000.  Sounds like they gave them the money just to go away.  Lots of organizations will settle in this range just because its cheaper in the long range then to fight it even if you think that you will win in court.  You have 2 lawyers prepping and trying the case, a dozen people responding to discovery motions, 30 people getting deposed, more discovery, people sitting around the court house for a week waiting to testify.   All together it is much cheaper to give them 50 grand and tell them not to let the door hit them on the ass.
 
2014-03-17 09:10:57 AM  
I'm in an appointed position.  Regardless of who wins the election in November, I will almost assuredly have to turn in a letter of resignation.  I just hope to God it doesn't get accepted.  And my wife and I never give any political donations, because you never know who will win.  And my position, FWIW, is explicitly nonpartisan.
 
2014-03-17 09:18:17 AM  

mgshamster: Fark isn't a democrat echo chamber. Fark is a reality echo chamber.

It just so happens that at this point in history, the democratic party is more aligned with reality than the republican party.


I live in the most liberal county in the South (and the most educated in Florida), and most of my friends are liberal.  And they're great people.  I think it's mostly due to the anonymity of the internet, and because you mostly remember the bad people, but many Fark liberals are so naive, so bitter, and so poorly educated it's astonishing.  And from reading the posts, you would think that none of them have any conservative friends or family members.

It's so refreshing to have a political conversation in the real world without constant false dichotomies, tu quoque, lame memes, etc...  Where disagreeing with someone over the role of government in American society doesn't make you inherently cruel, stupid, or selfish.

But obviously I like it, cause I keep coming back for more.
 
2014-03-17 09:49:33 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: wax_on: Jesus Christ these people are evil scumbags. I just don't get how anyone could vote for them. I REALLY hope some of them come to their senses and kick the bastards out next cycle.

It's Iowa FFS. Google Bob VanderPlaats and see how warped they have become there. It's a cryin' shame what the state has become.


The entire state isn't like that, it's really only the western part around Sioux City that's under complete Republican/AFA control. You also have to understand that Branstead getting elected occurred in 2010 which was a bad year for Dems all around, and also happened almost immediately after the court ruling that made gay marriage legal in Iowa which means that anybody with an R behind their name was getting a bunch of out of state funding from panicked conservative groups. It's doubtful he'll get reelected unless the Dems nominate a complete idiot for the position.

That said, while Branstead is corrupt and will stop at nothing to screw over people who mess with him (he got a State Trooper fired for pulling him over for speeding a few months ago) he's not insane. He, and the Democratic state senate have managed to keep a lot of the derpier stuff from happening here. Compared to our neighbor to the northwest (Wisconsin) Iowa is practically a liberal paradise.
 
2014-03-17 10:13:44 AM  

AnonAmbientLight: I get on fark, and i always see stupid to borderline comic book evil stunts by Republicans. 

I know that both sides have it's stinkers, and that Democrats are not pure either. But, i might have a bias here in thinking that the Democrats don't do nearly as much awful shiat as the Republicans do, at least not in the last 4-5 years.

Am i missing something? Am i in an echo chamber, or is it wrong for me to think that Republicans are really just spiteful, hateful, assholes? 

I mean, Sarah Palin went to a CPAC or a Cwhatever with a 48oz coke yelling freedom for what some Democrat did in New York, and on the other hand, people CAN NOT VOTE in some states because of Republican voter disenfranchisement.


Actually, Bloomberg isn't a Democrat, as far as I know. He ran as a Republican, and then went independent once he was in office.
 
2014-03-17 10:17:59 AM  
Oh, is this kind of thing a scandal?  Excellent.  Can't wait to start talking TravelGate when HRC ramps up her campaign in earnest.
 
2014-03-17 10:19:00 AM  

AnonAmbientLight: Am i in an echo chamber


Yes, pretty much demonstrated by everything that followed your question in your post.
 
2014-03-17 10:37:16 AM  

FLMountainMan: I'm in an appointed position.  Regardless of who wins the election in November, I will almost assuredly have to turn in a letter of resignation.  I just hope to God it doesn't get accepted.  And my wife and I never give any political donations, because you never know who will win.  And my position, FWIW, is explicitly nonpartisan.


I'm probably giving a statement in front of a state commission this week.  Four members, appointed by the governor, two from "Each Party".  *Ostensibly* the issues they deal with *should* be nonpartisan.

I suppose the alternative would be bad as well, but... goddammit, can we even pretend that we could theoretically move beyond a two party system?  I'm registered Independent in this state, so I suppose if I ever get to the point I could be appointed to a commission I'd have to pick sides.  Sigh.
 
2014-03-17 10:45:11 AM  

Garet Garrett: Oh, is this kind of thing a scandal?  Excellent.  Can't wait to start talking TravelGate when HRC ramps up her campaign in earnest.


Oh, do tell.  This should be good.
 
2014-03-17 10:51:52 AM  

FLMountainMan: mgshamster: Fark isn't a democrat echo chamber. Fark is a reality echo chamber.

It just so happens that at this point in history, the democratic party is more aligned with reality than the republican party.

I live in the most liberal county in the South (and the most educated in Florida), and most of my friends are liberal.  And they're great people.  I think it's mostly due to the anonymity of the internet, and because you mostly remember the bad people, but many Fark liberals are so naive, so bitter, and so poorly educated it's astonishing.  And from reading the posts, you would think that none of them have any conservative friends or family members.

It's so refreshing to have a political conversation in the real world without constant false dichotomies, tu quoque, lame memes, etc...  Where disagreeing with someone over the role of government in American society doesn't make you inherently cruel, stupid, or selfish.

But obviously I like it, cause I keep coming back for more.


I've found the opposite to be true. Most of the people in my life are conservative. There are only a handful of people I interact with who are liberal, and of them, half are the anti-science type of liberal. Most of the political or science* conversations I get into are shrouded in lame logical fallacies and poor representation of the evidence (when evidence is even used at all). It's basically tea party and fox news misinformation taken to heart, and any information that is counter to what is believed is hand waved away with a, "it's obviously a liberal bias, so it doesn't count." Or in the case the liberal anti-science folk, "It's a conspiracy." I'm not making that up; my brother believes that you can't trust corporations (because they're only in it for profit) and since they own the givernent, you cant trust them either. and since both own or "donate" to universities, that means their research also can't be trusted. So no scientific research from a university, government, or corporation can be trusted. It's all a cover up just to bring in more profit to the corporations.

When I come to Fark, it is such a refreshing dose of reality. It has been what has kept me coming back all these years.

As a scientist, I can say that this is especualy true for the sciences: evolution, vaccines, climate change, alt med; more often than not there are some very intelligent farkers posting very intelligent things on all those subjects that match reality.

In politics, the same has been true, and more often than not it has been backed with evidence and citations.

Sure, there are memes and morons and jackasses abound, but you have to look at it as a subset of any society (albeit a self selecting society): there will be a range of opinion and intellect. And while that is just as true here as anywhere else, I just don't see fark as full of morons; especially when compared to YouTube comments or on nearly every online news comment section, or even in the political chat rooms I sometimes visit.

Farkers provide citations; they back up their assertions with evidence. For a comments section of a website, that is rare and valuable. And it is something that I've never seen someone in a real life casual debate do.

*Not counting work, where is actually do science with fellow scientists; but the things we talk about aren't controversial or political.

/And on top of all that, Farkers tend to have a keen wit and good humor.
 
2014-03-17 11:05:11 AM  
Sorry about typos, I was on my phone when I made that post. Some of them still slipped through even after proof reading my post.
 
2014-03-17 12:31:19 PM  
Once again, proving to me, the republican's universal tactic is to do something bad (like this story) whilst accusing their opponents of something similar like "gaming the system" or ramble about small government but then create an extra layer of middle-management so they can hire their friends and get them government paid for cars and trucks (see Town of Hempstead, NY).  Or talk about liberals and their filthy minds and then get caught in airport bathrooms or with dicks in their asses OR go on endlessly about the sanctity of marriage and have four divorces under their belts OR yell loudly about corruption somewhere and then turn out to be completely corrupt.
It's tiring.  Maybe the projectors bulb will burn out...
 
2014-03-17 06:15:56 PM  
I thought it was kinda funny that the Republicans that for laid off got higher payouts.
 
2014-03-17 11:24:52 PM  
AnonAmbientLight:

I mean, Sarah Palin went to a CPAC or a Cwhatever with a 48oz coke yelling freedom for what some Democrat did in New York, and on the other hand, people CAN NOT VOTE in some states because of Republican voter disenfranchisement.

Wow.  Two wrongs don't make a right. No Democrat and no disenfranchisement.
 
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