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(Des Moines Register)   Since a Republican governor was elected in Iowa, his administration has paid nearly $300,000 to six former state employees who were fired because they voted for Democrats and clearly weren't qualified to do the jobs they'd been doing for years   (desmoinesregister.com ) divider line
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2014-03-16 06:56:04 PM  
Heck of a job, Bransty.
 
2014-03-16 07:38:05 PM  
he was swept in with the other tea party scumbags in '10. hopefully iowans will come to their senses and shave this mustache once and for all.
 
2014-03-16 08:22:21 PM  
The state offered two former employees thousands of dollars more if they would sign agreements mandating their secrecy, the workers told the Register. Frank, the design engineer, said she received an additional $5,000 for agreeing to a confidentiality clause.

The first rule of confidentiality clause is "do not talk about confidentiality clause".  She should give the $5000 back and take a lot more when she wins the law suit.

Interesting to see the ranges of settlements people took.  I bet Ken Thorton is really kicking himself for taking $30k less than Gary Forshee.  They probably had a whole office rivalry thing going on even before this happened.
 
2014-03-16 08:54:26 PM  
When GW Bush came to office, he stacked the departments with political cronies.

One of these hires was the head of FEMA. Then Katrina hit. But hey, I'm sure it will all work out swell this time.
 
2014-03-16 08:56:04 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: When GW Bush came to office, he stacked the departments with political cronies.

One of these hires was the head of FEMA. Then Katrina hit. But hey, I'm sure it will all work out swell this time.


Patronage is as old as the hills.
 
2014-03-16 08:57:07 PM  
So... Republican Governor gets elected in Iowa,. Starts pitching out qualified people who've been doping their jobs for years and replacing them with loyal unqualified politically aligned friends. Tries to hush the entire thing up by paying out fired employees in court along with a tidy 5K bonus if they signed a confidentiality agreement.

So... how are we hearing about this again?

The Register obtained the settlements through Iowa's open-records law. State officials acknowledged last week that without the Register's specific request for these records, there was little chance the public would have known about the settlements.

A O Way to go.
 
2014-03-16 08:58:00 PM  
Deichmann worked with the Culver administration to develop strategies to reduce infections that commonly occur in hospitals, efforts that included mandated statewide reporting. The effort was paid partly with money from the federal health care reform law, commonly called Obamacare and generally opposed by Republicans. Groups influential to Republican lawmakers including the Iowa Hospital Association generally opposed any sort of oversight or mandatory reporting related to infections. Gerd Clabaugh, the Department of Public Health's deputy director who was appointed by Branstad, resisted Deichmann's efforts related to the infection program.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 21st-century Republican Party.
 
2014-03-16 08:58:18 PM  
doping = doing.

/Preview?
//I don't need no steenking preview!
 
2014-03-16 09:01:31 PM  

MFAWG: Kumana Wanalaia: When GW Bush came to office, he stacked the departments with political cronies.

One of these hires was the head of FEMA. Then Katrina hit. But hey, I'm sure it will all work out swell this time.

Patronage is as old as the hills.


So is murder. Therefore it should be legal
 
2014-03-16 09:01:32 PM  
I get on fark, and i always see stupid to borderline comic book evil stunts by Republicans. 

I know that both sides have it's stinkers, and that Democrats are not pure either. But, i might have a bias here in thinking that the Democrats don't do nearly as much awful shiat as the Republicans do, at least not in the last 4-5 years.

Am i missing something? Am i in an echo chamber, or is it wrong for me to think that Republicans are really just spiteful, hateful, assholes? 

I mean, Sarah Palin went to a CPAC or a Cwhatever with a 48oz coke yelling freedom for what some Democrat did in New York, and on the other hand, people CAN NOT VOTE in some states because of Republican voter disenfranchisement.
 
2014-03-16 09:02:16 PM  

FlashHarry: he was swept in with the other tea party scumbags in '10. hopefully iowans will come to their senses and shave this mustache once and for all.


The really ignorant thing about this term for Branstad is, before his election voters were questioning why he would want to leave a lucrative dream job to run for Governor again.  Those who werent ignorant were replying to that question with "geez, why do you think?".  It was obvious the intention was to use the position to further the personal and financial interests of Branstad and his cronies -not to represent or improve the state.

/a democracy deserves it's leaders
//our voters are currently too ignorant and apathetic to expect improvement
 
2014-03-16 09:03:28 PM  

pchouky: Deichmann worked with the Culver administration to develop strategies to reduce infections that commonly occur in hospitals, efforts that included mandated statewide reporting. The effort was paid partly with money from the federal health care reform law, commonly called Obamacare and generally opposed by Republicans. Groups influential to Republican lawmakers including the Iowa Hospital Association generally opposed any sort of oversight or mandatory reporting related to infections. Gerd Clabaugh, the Department of Public Health's deputy director who was appointed by Branstad, resisted Deichmann's efforts related to the infection program.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 21st-century Republican Party.


Will this replace Jenna McCarthy in Fark headlines?
 
2014-03-16 09:05:37 PM  

whither_apophis: pchouky: Deichmann worked with the Culver administration to develop strategies to reduce infections that commonly occur in hospitals, efforts that included mandated statewide reporting. The effort was paid partly with money from the federal health care reform law, commonly called Obamacare and generally opposed by Republicans. Groups influential to Republican lawmakers including the Iowa Hospital Association generally opposed any sort of oversight or mandatory reporting related to infections. Gerd Clabaugh, the Department of Public Health's deputy director who was appointed by Branstad, resisted Deichmann's efforts related to the infection program.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 21st-century Republican Party.

Will this replace Jenna McCarthy in Fark headlines?


Only in politics
 
2014-03-16 09:06:45 PM  

AnonAmbientLight: Am i missing something? Am i in an echo chamber, or is it wrong for me to think that Republicans are really just spiteful, hateful, assholes?


Both are true.  Fark is generally a Democrat/Liberal (or progressive) echo chamber.  AND Republican majority is spiteful, hateful assholes.
 
2014-03-16 09:11:21 PM  
Fark isn't a democrat echo chamber. Fark is a reality echo chamber.

It just so happens that at this point in history, the democratic party is more aligned with reality than the republican party.
 
2014-03-16 09:11:35 PM  

Warlordtrooper: MFAWG: Kumana Wanalaia: When GW Bush came to office, he stacked the departments with political cronies.

One of these hires was the head of FEMA. Then Katrina hit. But hey, I'm sure it will all work out swell this time.

Patronage is as old as the hills.

So is murder. Therefore it should be legal


Yes, exactly what I meant.
 
2014-03-16 09:15:37 PM  

Frederick: AnonAmbientLight: Am i missing something? Am i in an echo chamber, or is it wrong for me to think that Republicans are really just spiteful, hateful, assholes?

Both are true.  Fark is generally a Democrat/Liberal (or progressive) echo chamber.  AND Republican majority is spiteful, hateful assholes.


Republicans are not a majority. They lost the House of Representatives by 1.7 million votes. They're a bunch of Gerry*'s kids.

*Gerry M. Ander
 
2014-03-16 09:18:59 PM  

pchouky: Gerd Clabaugh, the Department of Public Health's deputy director who was appointed by Branstad, resisted Deichmann's efforts related to the infection program.


The Deputy Director of Public Health's first name stands for Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease?
 
2014-03-16 09:24:56 PM  

Frederick: AnonAmbientLight: Am i missing something? Am i in an echo chamber, or is it wrong for me to think that Republicans are really just spiteful, hateful, assholes?

Both are true.  Fark is generally a Democrat/Liberal (or progressive) echo chamber.  AND Republican majority is spiteful, hateful assholes.


By which you mean, we like facts and proof? Yeah. Liberal. Progressive.
 
2014-03-16 09:28:30 PM  

AnonAmbientLight: I get on fark, and i always see stupid to borderline comic book evil stunts by Republicans.
I know that both sides have it's stinkers, and that Democrats are not pure either. But, i might have a bias here in thinking that the Democrats don't do nearly as much awful shiat as the Republicans do, at least not in the last 4-5 years.

Am i missing something? Am i in an echo chamber, or is it wrong for me to think that Republicans are really just spiteful, hateful, assholes?
I mean, Sarah Palin went to a CPAC or a Cwhatever with a 48oz coke yelling freedom for what some Democrat did in New York, and on the other hand, people CAN NOT VOTE in some states because of Republican voter disenfranchisement.


Well, in this particular case I don't think you see Democrats stacking agencies with incompetent partisan cronies often because they tend to believe government should actually work effectively. When you believe, as Republicans these days seem to, that the government is always the problem and is hopelessly broken it tends to become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
 
2014-03-16 09:33:47 PM  
Part of Deichmann's job was to improve reporting of infections contracted at hospitals - a role opposed by multiple medical groups closely aligned with the GOP

Let me get this straight.  Part of the GOP's 'replace' part of repeal and replace involves actively discouraging hospitals from figuring out if they're making their patients sicker?  Who the fark can call themselves a doctor or even a 'medical group' and oppose finding out why people get sick?
 
2014-03-16 09:37:22 PM  

MFAWG: Kumana Wanalaia: When GW Bush came to office, he stacked the departments with political cronies.

One of these hires was the head of FEMA. Then Katrina hit. But hey, I'm sure it will all work out swell this time.

Patronage is as old as the hills.


Patronage and incompetence are two separate things, but they weren't when Bush was in office.
 
2014-03-16 09:38:25 PM  

mgshamster: Fark isn't a democrat echo chamber. Fark is a reality echo chamber.

It just so happens that at this point in history, the democratic party is more aligned with reality than the republican party.


Truth
 
2014-03-16 09:43:57 PM  

fusillade762: Well, in this particular case I don't think you see Democrats stacking agencies with incompetent partisan cronies often because they tend to believe government should actually work effectively. When you believe, as Republicans these days seem to, that the government is always the problem and is hopelessly broken it tends to become a self-fulfilling prophecy.


No, see, this is how it works.

Everything is either 100% right or 100% wrong.  Every wrong thing that someone does is an equal level of wrong.  Murder, arson, jaywalking, they're all the same.

Therefore, it's acceptable to do wrong just as long as you have fewer "wrong points" than the other side.  You do this by going all-out evil (remember, since every "wrong" is judged the same, no sense going halfway), and then spend the rest of your time relentlessly nitpicking the other side so that you have piles and piles of "wrongs" to lay in their corner to prove that they're worse.

Thus, you justify yourself by saying "Well, we may be relegating huge swaths of the population to second-class citizenry, but the other guys took a selfie at a funeral, and eat fancy mustard.  So, see, we're only doing ONE thing wrong while they're doing TWO, therefore they're TWICE AS BAD."
 
2014-03-16 09:45:45 PM  

fusillade762: Well, in this particular case I don't think you see Democrats stacking agencies with incompetent partisan cronies often because they tend to believe government should actually work effectively. When you believe, as Republicans these days seem to, that the government is always the problem and is hopelessly broken it tends to become a self-fulfilling prophecy.


THIS

The Dems actually want to help people and make government work as it should, you know, bridges, roads, food stamps, health care.

The GOP had moved into "government can make my friends and me rich!!! WOHOOOO!!!!"
 
2014-03-16 09:47:53 PM  

kapaso: MFAWG: Kumana Wanalaia: When GW Bush came to office, he stacked the departments with political cronies.

One of these hires was the head of FEMA. Then Katrina hit. But hey, I'm sure it will all work out swell this time.

Patronage is as old as the hills.

Patronage and incompetence are two separate things, but they weren't when Bush was in office.


Oh, putting people who believe Gubment is evil in Gubment jobs never works out well.

And then there;s Bridgegate.
 
2014-03-16 09:51:55 PM  

FlashHarry: he was swept in with the other tea party scumbags in '10. hopefully iowans will come to their senses and shave this mustache once and for all.


he was the one thing that made me vote for the incumbent douchebag, dont even remember his name with his stupid soda tax deposit bullshiat and other idiocies.

he even had a punchable face, which i can remember, just not his stupid name, which i had to farking vote for to try and stop this turd from coming back to office
 
2014-03-16 10:01:49 PM  

Vexed Thespian: FlashHarry: he was swept in with the other tea party scumbags in '10. hopefully iowans will come to their senses and shave this mustache once and for all.

he was the one thing that made me vote for the incumbent douchebag, dont even remember his name with his stupid soda tax deposit bullshiat and other idiocies.

he even had a punchable face, which i can remember, just not his stupid name, which i had to farking vote for to try and stop this turd from coming back to office


Chet Culver. AKA "The Big Lug".

This doesn't surprise me about Bumstad. Generally, however, he has not been horrific for the state, and generally avoided scandal. Well, other than his drunken kid killing an elderly couple in a car accident. He did even buck the GOP back in the 80's when he signed gambling into law.
 
2014-03-16 10:05:03 PM  
Given that the modmins approve of derpsauce links, Fark isn't a Dem/Lib haven.

Honestly, I want to see links showing actual horrible things elected Ds are doing, so we can kick them out.

But then, that's one thing about the Democratic party: they shove over the ledge anyone who's a loonie, an exposed crook, or a PR nightmare. The Republicans put theirs front and center and rally around them.
 
2014-03-16 10:07:52 PM  
Assuming this was done with taxpayer funds, how is the GOP still the party of fiscal responsibility?
 
2014-03-16 10:08:14 PM  
Which party demanded all convention attendees sign Loyalty Oaths, again?

protestzone.com
 
2014-03-16 10:12:18 PM  

Lackofname: Given that the modmins approve of derpsauce links, Fark isn't a Dem/Lib haven.

Honestly, I want to see links showing actual horrible things elected Ds are doing, so we can kick them out.

But then, that's one thing about the Democratic party: they shove over the ledge anyone who's a loonie, an exposed crook, or a PR nightmare. The Republicans put theirs front and center and rally around them.


The easiest way to find someone horrible in the Dem party is to go to local politics.    Of course, at that point it doesn't matter, because local politics tend to ignore party lines when it comes to corruption.

/Sure, there might be a handful of dems on the state and national level that are bad, but they don't put their crazies front and center and hold them up on a pedestal like the GOP has been doing lately.
 
2014-03-16 10:34:54 PM  

MFAWG: Kumana Wanalaia: When GW Bush came to office, he stacked the departments with political cronies.

One of these hires was the head of FEMA. Then Katrina hit. But hey, I'm sure it will all work out swell this time.

Patronage is as old as the hills.


Political patronage is also one of the big reasons to have a professional civil service.  And gov't unions.  Because it wastes everybody's time to have a new IT director for the Dept of Transportation every gubernatorial election.  The new gov shouldn't be able to fire people just for being in a different political party.
 
2014-03-16 10:51:31 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: Frederick: AnonAmbientLight: Am i missing something? Am i in an echo chamber, or is it wrong for me to think that Republicans are really just spiteful, hateful, assholes?

Both are true.  Fark is generally a Democrat/Liberal (or progressive) echo chamber.  AND Republican majority is spiteful, hateful assholes.

Republicans are not a majority. They lost the House of Representatives by 1.7 million votes. They're a bunch of Gerry*'s kids.

*Gerry M. Ander


My bad, I wasnt clear.  I meant to say the majority of Republicans....not the Republican majority.
 
2014-03-16 11:00:20 PM  
Democrats hire professionals, Republicans hire their friends.  Sounds like business as usual to me.  Heckuva job.
 
2014-03-16 11:21:42 PM  

Farkin_Crazy: Vexed Thespian: FlashHarry: he was swept in with the other tea party scumbags in '10. hopefully iowans will come to their senses and shave this mustache once and for all.

he was the one thing that made me vote for the incumbent douchebag, dont even remember his name with his stupid soda tax deposit bullshiat and other idiocies.

he even had a punchable face, which i can remember, just not his stupid name, which i had to farking vote for to try and stop this turd from coming back to office

Chet Culver. AKA "The Big Lug".

This doesn't surprise me about Bumstad. Generally, however, he has not been horrific for the state, and generally avoided scandal. Well, other than his drunken kid killing an elderly couple in a car accident. He did even buck the GOP back in the 80's when he signed gambling into law.


Nah, he's more of an authoritarian/crook hypocrisy type then a party stooge.  Use and abuse the laws and power to get the most for you and your buddies, looking "tough on crime" while committing your own offenses and sacking anyone who calls you on it.

Pretty sure the reason he won in 2010 was less the national tide, as much as it was that Culver really didn't seem to be trying that hard to get re-elected.  Kind of like he was running because he felt the had to.

/Have met Brandstad before.
//Washed my hands well after shaking his
 
2014-03-16 11:40:52 PM  

TommyDeuce: Nah, he's more of an authoritarian/crook hypocrisy type then a party stooge.  Use and abuse the laws and power to get the most for you and your buddies, looking "tough on crime" while committing your own offenses and sacking anyone who calls you on it.

Pretty sure the reason he won in 2010 was less the national tide, as much as it was that Culver really didn't seem to be trying that hard to get re-elected.  Kind of like he was running because he felt the had to.

/Have met Brandstad before.
//Washed my hands well after shaking his


I don't dispute any of what you say. He is a huge shill for Farm Bureau and large ag. And his $200 million tax break boondogle for a firm (OraSCAM) that had been sued for defrauding taxpayers was blatant ignorance on his part.

And what is telling about this is, as you allude, his penchant for cronyism, while dumping people for what appear to be non-partisan positions in the state, for partisan reasons. And then trying to hide it with non-disclosure agreements.

The Big Lug was just in the right spot at the right time, and I think he was just overwhelmed by just what a Governor does, to be honest with you.

/Still miss Bob Ray.
//He was truly a good Governor for the Hawkeye State.
 
2014-03-17 12:05:13 AM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: Frederick: AnonAmbientLight: Am i missing something? Am i in an echo chamber, or is it wrong for me to think that Republicans are really just spiteful, hateful, assholes?

Both are true.  Fark is generally a Democrat/Liberal (or progressive) echo chamber.  AND Republican majority is spiteful, hateful assholes.

Republicans are not a majority. They lost the House of Representatives by 1.7 million votes. They're a bunch of Gerry*'s kids.

*Gerry M. Ander


...and Gerry Manders as The Beav!
 
2014-03-17 12:14:48 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: Vexed Thespian: FlashHarry: he was swept in with the other tea party scumbags in '10. hopefully iowans will come to their senses and shave this mustache once and for all.

he was the one thing that made me vote for the incumbent douchebag, dont even remember his name with his stupid soda tax deposit bullshiat and other idiocies.

he even had a punchable face, which i can remember, just not his stupid name, which i had to farking vote for to try and stop this turd from coming back to office

Chet Culver. AKA "The Big Lug".

This doesn't surprise me about Bumstad. Generally, however, he has not been horrific for the state, and generally avoided scandal. Well, other than his drunken kid killing an elderly couple in a car accident. He did even buck the GOP back in the 80's when he signed gambling into law.


Yeah, I can never get a read on Branstache. On the one hand he'll do some crazy right-wing thing like sign a bill that he has to mandate all abortions for women on assistance. Then on the other hand, he'll join up with two or three Democrats at the Council of Governors saying "no, Pentagon, you aren't going to violate federal law and downsize our states' National Guard end strength without our consent. Cut something else from your bloated budget."

I don't see myself voting to keep a Republican in the governor's office. But when I look around the country at other Republican governors, his current term hasn't given me much to complain about.
 
2014-03-17 12:15:50 AM  
That means they have certain legal rights and generally can bump into other available state jobs ahead of workers with less experience if their jobs are eliminated.

Wow, I'm overwhelmed by legalese.
 
2014-03-17 12:44:21 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: /Still miss Bob Ray.
//He was truly a good Governor for the Hawkeye State.


So good for such a long time that the law of averages necessarily meant future years of crappy governors to achieve balance.

/Met Gov. Ray a couple years ago on the skywalk and was surprised at how slight he was.
 
2014-03-17 12:50:25 AM  

clkeagle: I don't see myself voting to keep a Republican in the governor's office. But when I look around the country at other Republican governors, his current term hasn't given me much to complain about.


I guess...in comparison to the likes of Scot Walker, Jan Brewer, Chris Christie and some others.

We also might not know the full depth of Branstads effects yet.

/ahoy neighbor
 
2014-03-17 12:58:55 AM  

Frederick: Farkin_Crazy: /Still miss Bob Ray.
//He was truly a good Governor for the Hawkeye State.

So good for such a long time that the law of averages necessarily meant future years of crappy governors to achieve balance.

/Met Gov. Ray a couple years ago on the skywalk and was surprised at how slight he was.


Bob Ray was a guy who ran the state without an R or D behind his name.
Yeah, he is not a big guy. I met him a couple of times towards the end and after he left Terrace Hill. Very casual man. Drake flourished under his term of Presidency there.

He would be considered a very left leaning Dem now (according to the current crop of Iowa pubbers) given his stance and willingness to welcome opening Iowa's borders to Vietnamese and providing them a pathway to citizenship.

/Iowa will lose a good one when R.D. Ray passes.
//Braindead will never be half the man or governor that he is/was.
///The Ray girls knew how to behave themselves when dad was in charge. Eric Branstad, not so much.
 
2014-03-17 01:47:23 AM  
Jesus Christ these people are evil scumbags. I just don't get how anyone could vote for them. I REALLY hope some of them come to their senses and kick the bastards out next cycle.
 
2014-03-17 01:52:53 AM  

wax_on: Jesus Christ these people are evil scumbags. I just don't get how anyone could vote for them. I REALLY hope some of them come to their senses and kick the bastards out next cycle.


It's Iowa FFS. Google Bob VanderPlaats and see how warped they have become there. It's a cryin' shame what the state has become.

That said, Braindead and his staff tried to hide this. Thank god for the DMR for searching for the real story.
There is your lamestream media for ya Sarah.
 
2014-03-17 01:59:16 AM  
Democrats complaining that their jobs and TPS reports are required bureaucracy is not new.  Eliminating both the reports and their authors save more money than the payout.  Let them keep their staplers and Move On.
 
2014-03-17 02:25:37 AM  

tbeatty: Democrats complaining that their jobs and TPS reports are required bureaucracy is not new.  Eliminating both the reports and their authors save more money than the payout.  Let them keep their staplers and Move On.


Yes.

Must hide cronyism. It works.

Do you have any problem with a GOP governor paying for this with tax payers money? I bet not.
 
2014-03-17 02:35:02 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: tbeatty: Democrats complaining that their jobs and TPS reports are required bureaucracy is not new.  Eliminating both the reports and their authors save more money than the payout.  Let them keep their staplers and Move On.

Yes.

Must hide cronyism. It works.

Do you have any problem with a GOP governor paying for this with tax payers money? I bet not.


Let's be fair, he's never thought through any of his positions.  They just exist as vomitus.
 
2014-03-17 03:08:42 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: tbeatty: Democrats complaining that their jobs and TPS reports are required bureaucracy is not new.  Eliminating both the reports and their authors save more money than the payout.  Let them keep their staplers and Move On.

Yes.

Must hide cronyism. It works.

Do you have any problem with a GOP governor paying for this with tax payers money? I bet not.


Yes I do.  Downsizing government TPS reports should be bipartisan, despite SEIU.  Yet retards insist that incompetent people be employed for life.  Retards.  Detroit, Chicago  and prisons are replete with these assholes.  Nothing should be named "Daley" except prisons.
 
2014-03-17 03:36:23 AM  

tbeatty: Farkin_Crazy: tbeatty: Democrats complaining that their jobs and TPS reports are required bureaucracy is not new.  Eliminating both the reports and their authors save more money than the payout.  Let them keep their staplers and Move On.

Yes.

Must hide cronyism. It works.

Do you have any problem with a GOP governor paying for this with tax payers money? I bet not.

Yes I do.  Downsizing government TPS reports should be bipartisan, despite SEIU.  Yet retards insist that incompetent people be employed for life.  Retards.  Detroit, Chicago  and prisons are replete with these assholes.  Nothing should be named "Daley" except prisons.


Who is the retard that should be jailed that you speak of in this instance? Branstad? These people, who were wrongly fired according to what seems to be hush money payments, were cut loose because of their political affiliations.
 
2014-03-17 05:48:15 AM  

AnonAmbientLight: I get on fark, and i always see stupid to borderline comic book evil stunts by Republicans. 

I know that both sides have it's stinkers, and that Democrats are not pure either. But, i might have a bias here in thinking that the Democrats don't do nearly as much awful shiat as the Republicans do, at least not in the last 4-5 years.

Am i missing something? Am i in an echo chamber, or is it wrong for me to think that Republicans are really just spiteful, hateful, assholes? 

I mean, Sarah Palin went to a CPAC or a Cwhatever with a 48oz coke yelling freedom for what some Democrat did in New York, and on the other hand, people CAN NOT VOTE in some states because of Republican voter disenfranchisement.


If you mean Bloomberg, he was an ex-Republican independent, who ran on the Republican ballot line.
 
2014-03-17 06:27:22 AM  
fta "No cronyism, no conspiracies, just better quality projects, completed on time and at a savings to the taxpayer," Hunter said.

So it's common and routine for the state of Iowa to pay its laid off employees $5k to sign a confidentiality agreement?
 
2014-03-17 07:03:15 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: tbeatty: Farkin_Crazy: tbeatty: Democrats complaining that their jobs and TPS reports are required bureaucracy is not new.  Eliminating both the reports and their authors save more money than the payout.  Let them keep their staplers and Move On.

Yes.

Must hide cronyism. It works.

Do you have any problem with a GOP governor paying for this with tax payers money? I bet not.

Yes I do.  Downsizing government TPS reports should be bipartisan, despite SEIU.  Yet retards insist that incompetent people be employed for life.  Retards.  Detroit, Chicago  and prisons are replete with these assholes.  Nothing should be named "Daley" except prisons.

Who is the retard that should be jailed that you speak of in this instance? Branstad? These people, who were wrongly fired according to what seems to be hush money payments, were cut loose because of their political affiliations.


You do not understand, it is perfectly OK to do it if the purpose is to "stick it to the libs".
 
2014-03-17 08:29:13 AM  
fusillade762:

Well, in this particular case I don't think you see Democrats stacking agencies with incompetent partisan cronies often because they tend to believe government should actually work effectively. When you believe, as Republicans these days seem to, that the government is always the problem and is hopelessly broken it tends to become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

That's the basis of one of Thomas Frank's (What's the Matter With Kansas) books. Great read, very enlightening for me.

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2014-03-17 09:02:15 AM  
I have been a state employee for about 20 years, not in Iowa, but it is pretty much the same everywhere.  I can tell you that this happens everywhere.  If you hand out flyers with photo-shopped pictures of Republicans in KKK robes standing by burning crosses or Democrats serving aborted fetuses on Hoagie rolls at work and your guy loses the election things will not turn out well for you.  If you aren't a political appointee don't talk politics at work, you are there to do a job, just do it.  Hell even if you are a political appointee there is nothing to gain by talking politics.  I know one person who was a political appointee who served through 9 administrations both Democrat and Republican because he did his job, did it well and didn't get involved in politics at work.   On your own time you can do what you want, You can donate money, work on campaigns, lead demonstrations, testify before the legislature, just keep it out of the office and no one cares.

They settled 6 cases for a total of less than $300,000.  Sounds like they gave them the money just to go away.  Lots of organizations will settle in this range just because its cheaper in the long range then to fight it even if you think that you will win in court.  You have 2 lawyers prepping and trying the case, a dozen people responding to discovery motions, 30 people getting deposed, more discovery, people sitting around the court house for a week waiting to testify.   All together it is much cheaper to give them 50 grand and tell them not to let the door hit them on the ass.
 
2014-03-17 09:10:57 AM  
I'm in an appointed position.  Regardless of who wins the election in November, I will almost assuredly have to turn in a letter of resignation.  I just hope to God it doesn't get accepted.  And my wife and I never give any political donations, because you never know who will win.  And my position, FWIW, is explicitly nonpartisan.
 
2014-03-17 09:18:17 AM  

mgshamster: Fark isn't a democrat echo chamber. Fark is a reality echo chamber.

It just so happens that at this point in history, the democratic party is more aligned with reality than the republican party.


I live in the most liberal county in the South (and the most educated in Florida), and most of my friends are liberal.  And they're great people.  I think it's mostly due to the anonymity of the internet, and because you mostly remember the bad people, but many Fark liberals are so naive, so bitter, and so poorly educated it's astonishing.  And from reading the posts, you would think that none of them have any conservative friends or family members.

It's so refreshing to have a political conversation in the real world without constant false dichotomies, tu quoque, lame memes, etc...  Where disagreeing with someone over the role of government in American society doesn't make you inherently cruel, stupid, or selfish.

But obviously I like it, cause I keep coming back for more.
 
2014-03-17 09:49:33 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: wax_on: Jesus Christ these people are evil scumbags. I just don't get how anyone could vote for them. I REALLY hope some of them come to their senses and kick the bastards out next cycle.

It's Iowa FFS. Google Bob VanderPlaats and see how warped they have become there. It's a cryin' shame what the state has become.


The entire state isn't like that, it's really only the western part around Sioux City that's under complete Republican/AFA control. You also have to understand that Branstead getting elected occurred in 2010 which was a bad year for Dems all around, and also happened almost immediately after the court ruling that made gay marriage legal in Iowa which means that anybody with an R behind their name was getting a bunch of out of state funding from panicked conservative groups. It's doubtful he'll get reelected unless the Dems nominate a complete idiot for the position.

That said, while Branstead is corrupt and will stop at nothing to screw over people who mess with him (he got a State Trooper fired for pulling him over for speeding a few months ago) he's not insane. He, and the Democratic state senate have managed to keep a lot of the derpier stuff from happening here. Compared to our neighbor to the northwest (Wisconsin) Iowa is practically a liberal paradise.
 
2014-03-17 10:13:44 AM  

AnonAmbientLight: I get on fark, and i always see stupid to borderline comic book evil stunts by Republicans. 

I know that both sides have it's stinkers, and that Democrats are not pure either. But, i might have a bias here in thinking that the Democrats don't do nearly as much awful shiat as the Republicans do, at least not in the last 4-5 years.

Am i missing something? Am i in an echo chamber, or is it wrong for me to think that Republicans are really just spiteful, hateful, assholes? 

I mean, Sarah Palin went to a CPAC or a Cwhatever with a 48oz coke yelling freedom for what some Democrat did in New York, and on the other hand, people CAN NOT VOTE in some states because of Republican voter disenfranchisement.


Actually, Bloomberg isn't a Democrat, as far as I know. He ran as a Republican, and then went independent once he was in office.
 
2014-03-17 10:17:59 AM  
Oh, is this kind of thing a scandal?  Excellent.  Can't wait to start talking TravelGate when HRC ramps up her campaign in earnest.
 
2014-03-17 10:19:00 AM  

AnonAmbientLight: Am i in an echo chamber


Yes, pretty much demonstrated by everything that followed your question in your post.
 
2014-03-17 10:37:16 AM  

FLMountainMan: I'm in an appointed position.  Regardless of who wins the election in November, I will almost assuredly have to turn in a letter of resignation.  I just hope to God it doesn't get accepted.  And my wife and I never give any political donations, because you never know who will win.  And my position, FWIW, is explicitly nonpartisan.


I'm probably giving a statement in front of a state commission this week.  Four members, appointed by the governor, two from "Each Party".  *Ostensibly* the issues they deal with *should* be nonpartisan.

I suppose the alternative would be bad as well, but... goddammit, can we even pretend that we could theoretically move beyond a two party system?  I'm registered Independent in this state, so I suppose if I ever get to the point I could be appointed to a commission I'd have to pick sides.  Sigh.
 
2014-03-17 10:45:11 AM  

Garet Garrett: Oh, is this kind of thing a scandal?  Excellent.  Can't wait to start talking TravelGate when HRC ramps up her campaign in earnest.


Oh, do tell.  This should be good.
 
2014-03-17 10:51:52 AM  

FLMountainMan: mgshamster: Fark isn't a democrat echo chamber. Fark is a reality echo chamber.

It just so happens that at this point in history, the democratic party is more aligned with reality than the republican party.

I live in the most liberal county in the South (and the most educated in Florida), and most of my friends are liberal.  And they're great people.  I think it's mostly due to the anonymity of the internet, and because you mostly remember the bad people, but many Fark liberals are so naive, so bitter, and so poorly educated it's astonishing.  And from reading the posts, you would think that none of them have any conservative friends or family members.

It's so refreshing to have a political conversation in the real world without constant false dichotomies, tu quoque, lame memes, etc...  Where disagreeing with someone over the role of government in American society doesn't make you inherently cruel, stupid, or selfish.

But obviously I like it, cause I keep coming back for more.


I've found the opposite to be true. Most of the people in my life are conservative. There are only a handful of people I interact with who are liberal, and of them, half are the anti-science type of liberal. Most of the political or science* conversations I get into are shrouded in lame logical fallacies and poor representation of the evidence (when evidence is even used at all). It's basically tea party and fox news misinformation taken to heart, and any information that is counter to what is believed is hand waved away with a, "it's obviously a liberal bias, so it doesn't count." Or in the case the liberal anti-science folk, "It's a conspiracy." I'm not making that up; my brother believes that you can't trust corporations (because they're only in it for profit) and since they own the givernent, you cant trust them either. and since both own or "donate" to universities, that means their research also can't be trusted. So no scientific research from a university, government, or corporation can be trusted. It's all a cover up just to bring in more profit to the corporations.

When I come to Fark, it is such a refreshing dose of reality. It has been what has kept me coming back all these years.

As a scientist, I can say that this is especualy true for the sciences: evolution, vaccines, climate change, alt med; more often than not there are some very intelligent farkers posting very intelligent things on all those subjects that match reality.

In politics, the same has been true, and more often than not it has been backed with evidence and citations.

Sure, there are memes and morons and jackasses abound, but you have to look at it as a subset of any society (albeit a self selecting society): there will be a range of opinion and intellect. And while that is just as true here as anywhere else, I just don't see fark as full of morons; especially when compared to YouTube comments or on nearly every online news comment section, or even in the political chat rooms I sometimes visit.

Farkers provide citations; they back up their assertions with evidence. For a comments section of a website, that is rare and valuable. And it is something that I've never seen someone in a real life casual debate do.

*Not counting work, where is actually do science with fellow scientists; but the things we talk about aren't controversial or political.

/And on top of all that, Farkers tend to have a keen wit and good humor.
 
2014-03-17 11:05:11 AM  
Sorry about typos, I was on my phone when I made that post. Some of them still slipped through even after proof reading my post.
 
2014-03-17 12:31:19 PM  
Once again, proving to me, the republican's universal tactic is to do something bad (like this story) whilst accusing their opponents of something similar like "gaming the system" or ramble about small government but then create an extra layer of middle-management so they can hire their friends and get them government paid for cars and trucks (see Town of Hempstead, NY).  Or talk about liberals and their filthy minds and then get caught in airport bathrooms or with dicks in their asses OR go on endlessly about the sanctity of marriage and have four divorces under their belts OR yell loudly about corruption somewhere and then turn out to be completely corrupt.
It's tiring.  Maybe the projectors bulb will burn out...
 
2014-03-17 06:15:56 PM  
I thought it was kinda funny that the Republicans that for laid off got higher payouts.
 
2014-03-17 11:24:52 PM  
AnonAmbientLight:

I mean, Sarah Palin went to a CPAC or a Cwhatever with a 48oz coke yelling freedom for what some Democrat did in New York, and on the other hand, people CAN NOT VOTE in some states because of Republican voter disenfranchisement.

Wow.  Two wrongs don't make a right. No Democrat and no disenfranchisement.
 
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