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(BBC-US)   Exit polling in Crimea shows 93% of voters in favor of leaving Ukraine for Russia. Problem solved, right?   (bbc.com) divider line 232
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2014-03-16 02:21:44 PM  
i1182.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-16 02:31:33 PM  
So pack your sh*t and GTFO. Maybe the rest of Ukraine doesn't want to cede territory to their bully neighbor.
 
2014-03-16 03:00:37 PM  
Ha anyone posted Crimea river yet?
 
2014-03-16 03:10:06 PM  
encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
/hot, hot image
It's pretty sad when Kim Jong Un's election results are more of a surprise than this one. Other dictatorships at least attempt to appear legitimate, as laughable as they seem.

Well, Putin. You got your mandate with an election you staged. Annex away!
 
2014-03-16 03:23:12 PM  
You can't get 90% of a population to agree to ANYTHING without some threat or fiddling with numbers.

They should have aimed for 70something%.  Still an overwhelming mandate without that "dictatorial" feel to it.
 
2014-03-16 03:31:20 PM  
Well I'm glad that's taken care of.  Now we can get back to the important threads about a missing aeroplane.
 
2014-03-16 03:41:11 PM  
Seems legit.
 
2014-03-16 03:42:07 PM  

Ambivalence: You can't get 90% of a population to agree to ANYTHING without some threat or fiddling with numbers.

They should have aimed for 70something%.  Still an overwhelming mandate without that "dictatorial" feel to it.


Good call. 70% even seems high - just try asking folks around the office what they want for takeout.
 
2014-03-16 03:43:23 PM  
I wonder what happen to the other 7% ?
 
2014-03-16 03:44:31 PM  
Russia has never had a more legitimate claim on anything than this.

So, really, it's like 15% legitimate. Maybe even as high as 20%.
 
2014-03-16 03:46:20 PM  
That's a very russian result.
 
2014-03-16 04:01:45 PM  

hi13760: I wonder what happen to the other 7% ?


Siberia.
 
2014-03-16 04:03:01 PM  
So what they are saying is 7% of the voters will have unfortunate "accidents" in the next couple days?
 
2014-03-16 04:05:07 PM  
It really seems like they're Putin on a show and Russian this whole thing through.
 
2014-03-16 04:05:27 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-16 04:06:44 PM  
I'm sure the guy standing slightly off camera with an AK had *nothing* to do with that figure. Couldn't be involved in any way...
 
2014-03-16 04:11:14 PM  
So, is this how it works? Let's see if that works here! Wouldn't that be grand!?

1. Texans move en masse to Mexico, but only to the Chihuahua and Coahuila states.
2. The United States claims that pro-Texas Mexicans are being threatened.
3. The United States marches unmarked troops and equipment across the U.S.-Mexico border into those two states.
4. The United States justifies the occupation by claiming to be there solely to ensure the safety of pro-Texas Mexicans. We lock up Mexican troops in their own bases, and pro-Texas supporters beat the ever-loving crap out of any native Mexican who protests the occupation.
5. When other governing bodies, such as the EU, complain about the clearly illegal occupation, the United States brings up decades of illegal occupations around the world.
6. Meanwhile, U.S. supporters wage a viral war for hearts and minds on the Internet.
7. The pro-Texas Mexicans construct their own interim government, and then hold a "vote" as to whether the Chihuahua & Coahuila states should become part of Texas.
8. The vote, stunningly, is 93% in favor of joining Texas, as most native Mexicans have gotten the hell out of Chihuahua & Coahuila.

That sounds legit!
 
2014-03-16 04:11:21 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-16 04:12:12 PM  

uber humper: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 528x456]


Tool or troll? You decide!
/tool
 
2014-03-16 04:12:44 PM  
Why do we even care? About a million people will die in Africa, South America and Asia this year from insects, but we can give one shiat about that.
 
2014-03-16 04:13:03 PM  
i823.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-16 04:13:14 PM  

Ambivalence: You can't get 90% of a population to agree to ANYTHING without some threat or fiddling with numbers.

They should have aimed for 70something%.  Still an overwhelming mandate without that "dictatorial" feel to it.


CNN showed footage of people voting twice while the "observers" sat and watched.

Guess Crimea is like Russia after all.
 
2014-03-16 04:14:29 PM  
Doesn't matter what Crimea wants.  it only matters what 'merica wants.
 
2014-03-16 04:14:39 PM  

FormlessOne: So, is this how it works? Let's see if that works here! Wouldn't that be grand!?

1. Texans move en masse to Mexico, but only to the Chihuahua and Coahuila states.
2. The United States claims that pro-Texas Mexicans are being threatened.
3. The United States marches unmarked troops and equipment across the U.S.-Mexico border into those two states.
4. The United States justifies the occupation by claiming to be there solely to ensure the safety of pro-Texas Mexicans. We lock up Mexican troops in their own bases, and pro-Texas supporters beat the ever-loving crap out of any native Mexican who protests the occupation.
5. When other governing bodies, such as the EU, complain about the clearly illegal occupation, the United States brings up decades of illegal occupations around the world.
6. Meanwhile, U.S. supporters wage a viral war for hearts and minds on the Internet.
7. The pro-Texas Mexicans construct their own interim government, and then hold a "vote" as to whether the Chihuahua & Coahuila states should become part of Texas.
8. The vote, stunningly, is 93% in favor of joining Texas, as most native Mexicans have gotten the hell out of Chihuahua & Coahuila.

That sounds legit!


It kinda did work out that what when Texas split from Mexico to become it own country, then joined the US
 
2014-03-16 04:15:17 PM  

FormlessOne: uber humper: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 528x456]

Tool or troll? You decide!
/tool


But a tool of who?
 
2014-03-16 04:15:24 PM  
So, The rest of Ukraine wasn't allowed to vote?

Sounds legit.
 
2014-03-16 04:16:04 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Why do we even care? About a million people will die in Africa, South America and Asia this year from insects, but we can give one shiat about that.


To be fair, it's parasites transmitted by insects, combined with underdevelopment and poverty. But yeah.
 
2014-03-16 04:16:25 PM  
The coming sanction war is going to hurt the global economy.

Prepare for MARTIAL LAW & SHARKNADOS

And flying taser fish.
 
2014-03-16 04:16:54 PM  
Well Crimea voted to secede, Im assuming the Ukraine will consider seceding Crimea as legit as the US considered the CSA.
 
2014-03-16 04:17:29 PM  
Great, now Bavaria wants to be their own country as well....

/anyone seen voting photos of something other than guys in camo gear or kids wayyy to young to vote?
 
2014-03-16 04:17:50 PM  

FormlessOne: So, is this how it works? Let's see if that works here! Wouldn't that be grand!?

1. Texans move en masse to Mexico, but only to the Chihuahua and Coahuila states.
2. The United States claims that pro-Texas Mexicans are being threatened.
3. The United States marches unmarked troops and equipment across the U.S.-Mexico border into those two states.
4. The United States justifies the occupation by claiming to be there solely to ensure the safety of pro-Texas Mexicans. We lock up Mexican troops in their own bases, and pro-Texas supporters beat the ever-loving crap out of any native Mexican who protests the occupation.
5. When other governing bodies, such as the EU, complain about the clearly illegal occupation, the United States brings up decades of illegal occupations around the world.
6. Meanwhile, U.S. supporters wage a viral war for hearts and minds on the Internet.
7. The pro-Texas Mexicans construct their own interim government, and then hold a "vote" as to whether the Chihuahua & Coahuila states should become part of Texas.
8. The vote, stunningly, is 93% in favor of joining Texas, as most native Mexicans have gotten the hell out of Chihuahua & Coahuila.

That sounds legit!


Except #1 isn't comparable.  People living in Crimea used to be Russian until 1954.  It would be more like Great Britain moving into Hong Kong to reclaim it from China.
 
2014-03-16 04:18:15 PM  

Oldiron_79: Well Crimea voted to secede, Im assuming the Ukraine will consider seceding Crimea as legit as the US considered the CSA.


But the Union had resources to take it back.
 
2014-03-16 04:18:21 PM  
Time for the lads of Kerry to stop potato farming and head to the faire like the dashing young blades they are.

/obscure?
 
2014-03-16 04:19:14 PM  
thebacklot.mtvnimages.com

"Hey Ukraine, you just got PUTOWN'D!!!"

/But seriously, this man is a James Bond villain.
 
2014-03-16 04:19:45 PM  
So I'm sure any time there's a vote for a Russian territory to secede, Moscow just hands them a gift basket and says "good luck."
 
2014-03-16 04:20:25 PM  

Oldiron_79: Well Crimea voted to secede, Im assuming the Ukraine will consider seceding Crimea as legit as the US considered the CSA.


They even have a few "Fort Sumters" in Crimea. Once the Ruskies fire on them... it's game on!
 
2014-03-16 04:21:16 PM  

violentsalvation: So pack your sh*t and GTFO. Maybe the rest of Ukraine doesn't want to cede territory to their bully neighbor.


Yeah, this.

You want to be Russian? Move to farking Russia.

The real problem is that so many European countries depend on Russian gas and investments. I would dearly love for my government to administer Putin a richly deserved swift punch to the cock. But it won't happen. Eastern European nations that have been farked over by Russia in the past are very edgy at the moment.

I sincerely hope that the civilised world has the balls to tell Putin to fark off. Eject them from the G8. Sink the rouble. Give Russia's security council seat to Ukraine, just for shiats and giggles.
 
2014-03-16 04:23:28 PM  
I'm kind of hoping the Russians storm Kiev when PM Stephen Harper is there next week.
 
2014-03-16 04:23:35 PM  
What, not 140%?
 
2014-03-16 04:23:51 PM  

iron de havilland: violentsalvation: So pack your sh*t and GTFO. Maybe the rest of Ukraine doesn't want to cede territory to their bully neighbor.

Yeah, this.

You want to be Russian? Move to farking Russia.

The real problem is that so many European countries depend on Russian gas and investments. I would dearly love for my government to administer Putin a richly deserved swift punch to the cock. But it won't happen. Eastern European nations that have been farked over by Russia in the past are very edgy at the moment.

I sincerely hope that the civilised world has the balls to tell Putin to fark off. Eject them from the G8. Sink the rouble. Give Russia's security council seat to Ukraine, just for shiats and giggles.


This is actually a problem with leadership across the world.

Occasionally, guys spring up who NEED to be taken out. Putin needed to be taken out before he even made it into office.
 
2014-03-16 04:25:10 PM  

uber humper: FormlessOne: So, is this how it works? Let's see if that works here! Wouldn't that be grand!?

1. Texans move en masse to Mexico, but only to the Chihuahua and Coahuila states.
2. The United States claims that pro-Texas Mexicans are being threatened.
3. The United States marches unmarked troops and equipment across the U.S.-Mexico border into those two states.
4. The United States justifies the occupation by claiming to be there solely to ensure the safety of pro-Texas Mexicans. We lock up Mexican troops in their own bases, and pro-Texas supporters beat the ever-loving crap out of any native Mexican who protests the occupation.
5. When other governing bodies, such as the EU, complain about the clearly illegal occupation, the United States brings up decades of illegal occupations around the world.
6. Meanwhile, U.S. supporters wage a viral war for hearts and minds on the Internet.
7. The pro-Texas Mexicans construct their own interim government, and then hold a "vote" as to whether the Chihuahua & Coahuila states should become part of Texas.
8. The vote, stunningly, is 93% in favor of joining Texas, as most native Mexicans have gotten the hell out of Chihuahua & Coahuila.

That sounds legit!

It kinda did work out that what when Texas split from Mexico to become it own country, then joined the US


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It's why I don't view the Alamo as anything but a symbol of national shame, and why so many folks still remind the United States that, yeah, we used to do this, too.
 
2014-03-16 04:25:53 PM  

iron de havilland: violentsalvation: So pack your sh*t and GTFO. Maybe the rest of Ukraine doesn't want to cede territory to their bully neighbor.

Yeah, this.

You want to be Russian? Move to farking Russia.

The real problem is that so many European countries depend on Russian gas and investments. I would dearly love for my government to administer Putin a richly deserved swift punch to the cock. But it won't happen. Eastern European nations that have been farked over by Russia in the past are very edgy at the moment.

I sincerely hope that the civilised world has the balls to tell Putin to fark off. Eject them from the G8. Sink the rouble. Give Russia's security council seat to Ukraine, just for shiats and giggles.


If they stood up to Putin, with threats of attack, Putin would back down, be make a laughing stock at home, and forced out.
 
2014-03-16 04:26:21 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-16 04:26:22 PM  

FormlessOne: So, is this how it works? Let's see if that works here! Wouldn't that be grand!?

1. Texans move en masse to Mexico, but only to the Chihuahua and Coahuila states.
2. The United States claims that pro-Texas Mexicans are being threatened.
3. The United States marches unmarked troops and equipment across the U.S.-Mexico border into those two states.
4. The United States justifies the occupation by claiming to be there solely to ensure the safety of pro-Texas Mexicans. We lock up Mexican troops in their own bases, and pro-Texas supporters beat the ever-loving crap out of any native Mexican who protests the occupation.
5. When other governing bodies, such as the EU, complain about the clearly illegal occupation, the United States brings up decades of illegal occupations around the world.
6. Meanwhile, U.S. supporters wage a viral war for hearts and minds on the Internet.
7. The pro-Texas Mexicans construct their own interim government, and then hold a "vote" as to whether the Chihuahua & Coahuila states should become part of Texas.
8. The vote, stunningly, is 93% in favor of joining Texas, as most native Mexicans have gotten the hell out of Chihuahua & Coahuila.

That sounds legit!


You realize this is how we got Texas?
 
2014-03-16 04:26:45 PM  
I read on the BBC a report from a Russian-Crimean against Annexation saying that he and his friends who agree with him to stay in the Ukraine will not vote, because the Russian Army and the Militias may track down addresses.

Seems like a fair assumption. That 7% are probably getting some nasty knocks on their door right about now.
 
2014-03-16 04:27:50 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Why do we even care? About a million people will die in Africa, South America and Asia this year from insects, but we can give one shiat about that.


It's mostly about money.  The Ukraine and Russia supply natural resources to the rest of the EU.  Competition means lower prices and the EU has better relations with the Ukraine than with Russia.  Russia gaining control of Crimea and potentially the Ukraine, or just having more political influence means they can jack up the prices.  Kinda like how the oil rich countries in the middle east can all agree to raise prices when it is in their own best interests.

The US doesn't care too much about it, but the EU does.  And the US is an EU ally - so we're going to side with the EU.  China is a Russian ally and, shockingly, they support Russia's position.  The US cares more about keeping Russia from gaining power.  More land, more resources, more citizens == more power.  It's the same reason we didn't let the South leave the US - because money, resources, and power.
 
2014-03-16 04:27:58 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-16 04:28:08 PM  
Were these same people asked to pick up a can, too?
 
2014-03-16 04:28:08 PM  
Meanwhile at the Ukraine/Russian border (and with 96% of the vote in)

i3.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-16 04:28:39 PM  

uber humper: Oldiron_79: Well Crimea voted to secede, Im assuming the Ukraine will consider seceding Crimea as legit as the US considered the CSA.

But the Union had resources to take it back.


Well if you dont have the resources to take it back then I guess they are seceded
 
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