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(Talking Points Memo)   The key to future GOP victory: Better ideas? Nah, fewer debates. Book it, done   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 116
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2014-03-17 02:47:26 AM  

SpacePirate: I'm allowed to think the man has some good points that need to be heard, I don't have to agree with everything he says to bring him up. Dude's still relevant to the national conversation.


lol no

we've been through this before
over and over

Show me some actual anti-war, pro civil liberty lefties,

What would that prove? That you wouldn't need to look to some neo-confederate for socio-political criticism?
 
2014-03-17 03:00:32 AM  

whidbey: SpacePirate: I'm allowed to think the man has some good points that need to be heard, I don't have to agree with everything he says to bring him up. Dude's still relevant to the national conversation.

lol no

we've been through this before
over and over


You so close minded, bro. Look beyond the partisan divide once in a while.

Show me some actual anti-war, pro civil liberty lefties,

What would that prove? That you wouldn't need to look to some neo-confederate for socio-political criticism?


Yeah, pretty much. :)

I'm not going to march lockstep with the Democratic Party just because our guy is in power.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/05/kucinich-obamas-foreign-policy-no- di fferent-from-bushs-video/ 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BmdovYztH8 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/20/dennis-kucinich-nsa_n_37860 71 .html

/I'm still too easy to troll
 
2014-03-17 03:02:51 AM  

SpacePirate: whidbey: SpacePirate: whidbey: SpacePirate: The Why Not Guy: Fewer than ten debates? Will that still be enough for the audience to boo an active duty Marine?

Or boo Ron Paul for suggesting we follow The Golden Rule in our foreign policy?

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It's like you have a beeper that alerts you whenever I mention him in a thread, lmao.

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Check it out again though, they did end up cheering, but that had to be embarrassing (as if the RNC cares):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-US_dF58Rw

I'm sure.

It's just good Fark Entertainment™ (for now, anyway) to watch you praise RON PAUL in a thread and then attempt to backpedal when called on it. NO U.

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I'm allowed to think the man has some good points that need to be heard, I don't have to agree with everything he says to bring him up. Dude's still relevant to the national conversation.


Yeah, it takes a real maverick to load bills with pork for his district, make sure they have enough votes to pass, and then vote against them so he can appear like the sole voice of opposition to wasteful spending in the eyes of stoners and retards.
 
2014-03-17 03:45:55 AM  

SpacePirate: I'm not going to march lockstep with the Democratic Party just because our guy is in power.


You do realize you can support accomplishments and be critical of socially conservative hardliner ideology in our government at the same time? No? You don't?

Kucinich

We've been through this, too. Kucinich stood up and made a lot of noise in Congress. Good for him. But did he ever actually do anything? Is he a bane or a boon to progressives? Oh wait. But Ron Paul said...

And pretending to be above both political parties when in reality all you're doing is helping Republicans get elected is wearing a bit thin. Sorry you think that someone pointing that out to you constitutes being trolled.
 
2014-03-17 04:25:17 AM  

whidbey: SpacePirate: I'm not going to march lockstep with the Democratic Party just because our guy is in power.

You do realize you can support accomplishments and be critical of socially conservative hardliner ideology in our government at the same time? No? You don't?


Kinda like how I'm sympathetic to Ron Paul? LULZ.

"We've been through this, too. Kucinich stood up and made a lot of noise in Congress. Good for him. But did he ever actually do anything? Is he a bane or a boon to progressives? Oh wait. But Ron Paul said..."

He stood by the constitution and his anti-war principals when the DNC leadership farking sold out. I'd call that a boon to civil liberties the same way Warren is a boon to anti-corporatist cronyism.

"And pretending to be above both political parties when in reality all you're doing is helping Republicans get elected is wearing a bit thin. Sorry you think that someone pointing that out to you constitutes being trolled."

I'll not stop criticizing the administration's mistakes just because it might unintentionally help Republicans, nor will I waver in my beliefs just to gain a few more points in a poll. You can call me an idealist if you want, but I refuse to vote for a lesser evil within the party, and I intend not to in the DNC primary in the future. Hopefully you won't vote for an establishment shill just because you're afraid of the big bad teaparty boogieman.
 
2014-03-17 05:40:29 AM  

SpacePirate: You can call me an idealist if you want, but I refuse to vote for a lesser evil within the party, and I intend not to in the DNC primary in the future. Hopefully you won't vote for an establishment shill just because you're afraid of the big bad teaparty boogieman.


First of all, you seem to think the social conservatives are "boogiemen." That's Questionable Judgment #1.

#2 would be this rather tedious "lesser of two evils" nonsense. The real focus of the past 5 years should have been largely supporting the Democratic Party and pushing to tell the social conservatives to fark off.

But no, we've seen a lot more Obama-under-the-Microscope, Obama did this, Obama didn't do that, he didn't do enough-- than actual condemnation of the real naysayers, the Republican Party. It just doesn't help that you're here shhsh-ing or chiding anyone for daring to tip your "both sides are bad" scale in favor of the real political entities doing damage to this country.

But until there is a viable party to replace the Republicans, we should be supporting what we've got, and becoming more involved in the process. I know that's a horrible piece of advice.
Maybe Uncle Ron will fix us blueberry pancakes or something and we'll mull it over some hot cocoa or whatever 1950s imagery you can conjure up for us.
/snark
 
2014-03-17 07:08:01 AM  
I'm feeding my kid breakfast this morning while reading this. The kid won't eat a damn thing, though. It's good for him, but he won't eat it. It's maddening. He just doesn't understand that what I am trying to do is what's best for him but he won't open his mouth and take it. I'm trying everything here. I'm making airplane noises. I'm making race car noises. I'm trying to bribe him with treats if he finishes everything. I'm utilizing a tit-for-tat strategy where he gets something else he likes for every bite he takes. It's all failing. None of it is working. It's almost as if he simply doesn't like what I am offering, but that can't be it. I like this food. I'd eat this food. I think it's swell. How can someone else not like this? So that's not it. I tried discussing it with him but all he says is he doesn't want it and "can I have something else?" So obviously discussions are out of the question. There's got to be some way... some method... some trickto get him to swallow this stuff he pretends isn't good and that he doesn't want. I'm going to find it.

Anyhow, I think the GOP is on the right course with this. Fewer debates. Oh, and technology. The technology is how they tricked everyone to vote Obama. If we used mobile apps and stopped having public discussions about our policies surely people would swing back to the right.
 
2014-03-17 08:28:53 AM  
The less people know about a candidate going into a general election, the better chance they have of winning.
 
2014-03-17 08:30:38 AM  

SpacePirate: I'm allowed to think the man has some good points that need to be heard, I don't have to agree with everything he says to bring him up. Dude's still relevant to the national conversation.


You just put Quizzical Dog in traction with a sprained neck.
 
2014-03-17 09:20:14 AM  
it's a good plan, but there's a problem.

the morans who say stupid shiat honestly want to be heard saying the stupid shiat they say.

in other words
DERP....uh....uh....finds a way.
 
2014-03-17 10:04:12 AM  
This may have been done already (Didn't read the whole thread)

"Better to keep your mouth shut and let the world think you a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt."
 
2014-03-17 10:17:53 AM  
Fewer primary debates? I think that's a fine, fine thing.

Even better? MORE DEBATES.

Have the whole debate process privatized, with people having to subscribe and only the top four bidders getting podiums. other candidates can bid on a series of more and more degrading podium-like devices with possible strategic benefits; One can have wink Martendale's old ball-mic, another cna have just a boom, a third might pick up an old bing crosby telefunken model to stir the memories of the electorate.

Sell ad space all around the background, as long as they conform to the color scheme of the party. Offer big sponsors the ability to spin the candidate's quotes for ten minutes after the debate ("John McCain is the Kind of Leader that Doritos, Coca-cola and America All need right now - he's the real thing, all right!")
 
2014-03-17 10:32:53 AM  
Republicans: Love the authoritarian Putin, hate voting, hate transparency, love controlling peoples lives, love spying, hate debates, hate dissent.

Republicans: The anti-democracy authoritarians of the west.
 
2014-03-17 10:42:34 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: They are also trying to give themselves the opportunity to point and laugh at the Democrats, who are notoriously terrible at getting their act together and whose convention - let's be honest - looks like a goddamn three-ring circus by comparison.

Um. You didn't watch the two conventions in 2012 did you? Either that or you're talking about what the GOP faithful think.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but they also didn't bother airing the one part of the 2012 GOP convention that would have made Romney seem like a human being.  Not the wisest move.

Also,

www.csmonitor.com

That said, Democrats do have trouble getting their shiat together.  Because they're more a coalition of groups with different priorities.   The GOP has the tea party twits to deal with, and some fiscal/social conservative headbutting, but generally march lock step to the RNC talking point memo.
 
2014-03-17 12:40:27 PM  

Notabunny: fta "I think a traveling circus of debates is insanity in this party," Priebus told about 200 delegates. "We're proposing to have fewer than 10, and this time around, we're going to pick the moderators."

But the last debates were an unbeatable drinking game, Priebus, you jerk.

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Looking back on that...  ensemble it's sad to see the only ones with any sense were the two guys on the right side of the pic.  Poppa Paul and whats-his-face...  Huntsman?  Of course they jammed their feet in their mouths too.
/voted for Gary because why not?
 
2014-03-17 02:51:46 PM  
Well I see they understand that the biggest problem they have isn't that their ideas are terrible except for a select elite few, but that people who understand their ideas won't vote for them.  See and people say Conservatives always ignore reality.

This is clearly their only option.  If they fixed the ideas themselves... they wouldn't be Conservatives anymore.
 
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