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(Boston Magazine)   Massachusetts DOT just built 60 parking spaces for a homeless shelter   (bostonmagazine.com ) divider line
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2014-03-16 11:48:08 AM  
Because there aren't people that work there or volunteer there?
 
2014-03-16 11:52:16 AM  
Ever heard the term "living in your car"?  Many homeless people still have vehicles and are otherwise mobile.
 
2014-03-16 12:19:38 PM  
Not parking spaces

/camp sites
//yeah... I've lived in my car before
 
2014-03-16 12:56:29 PM  
It seems Subby has already been thrashed.

Turn out the lights please.
 
2014-03-16 01:00:33 PM  
I-93 just north of the city used to have a billboard up with a station wagon on it and said something like "for many kids, this is home".
 
2014-03-16 01:32:35 PM  

Ambivalence: Ever heard the term "living in your car"?  Many homeless people still have vehicles and are otherwise mobile.


Yup.
 
2014-03-16 01:40:58 PM  

enry: I-93 just north of the city used to have a billboard up with a station wagon on it and said something like "for many kids, this is home".


Worcester has that one still.
 
2014-03-16 01:41:05 PM  
I'd also like to point out that most cities have zoning laws that require a specific number of parking spaces per ft^2 of building.
 
2014-03-16 01:41:35 PM  
"Everything I know about homelessness I learned from Adam Sandler movies."
- Subby 2K14
 
2014-03-16 01:46:51 PM  
Well, homeless people need a place to park their new Cadillac Escalade.

/ I wish I was joking
 
2014-03-16 01:46:53 PM  
They'll need all those other residential parking spots since that South End/Chinatown area is quickly being gentrified. The old Boston Herald site is being turned into condos and another condo development is going up nearby, if not finished. Probably within 20 years the only low/no income people there may be at Pine Street Inn.
 
2014-03-16 01:48:55 PM  

iheartscotch: Well, homeless people need a place to park their new Cadillac Escalade.

/ I wish I was joking


If someone has cash for a car, should they be required to also own a home? There are a lot of homless by choice as well as those who are homless due to mental or other issues.
 
2014-03-16 01:50:24 PM  
A radically underappreciated joy of living in the 'burbs: new parking spaces are never "news", because parking really isn't a big deal in the majority of places around here.
 
2014-03-16 01:51:23 PM  
I wish they would do this in Baltimore.  I'm getting real tired of circling for 45 minutes and still having a parking ticket when I come out the next day.
 
2014-03-16 01:53:23 PM  
No refrigerator but own a car?  Wait until Fox News hears about THIS
 
2014-03-16 01:56:40 PM  
the nearby homeless shelter, The Pine Street Inn


That's a nice name for a homeless shelter.

Sounds cozy.
 
2014-03-16 01:56:40 PM  

iheartscotch: Well, homeless people need a place to park their new Cadillac Escalade.

/ I wish I was joking


Because houses are so much cheaper than cars?
 
2014-03-16 01:57:21 PM  

iheartscotch: Well, homeless people need a place to park their new Cadillac Escalade.

/ I wish I was joking


You can live in your car but you can't drive your house. Reasonable choice.
 
2014-03-16 02:01:44 PM  

Iblis824: iheartscotch: Well, homeless people need a place to park their new Cadillac Escalade.

/ I wish I was joking

If someone has cash for a car, should they be required to also own a home? There are a lot of homless by choice as well as those who are homless due to mental or other issues.


I'm not begrudging them their car; I'm just saying that a $50,000 car, that gets like 6 miles to the gallon, might not have been the most financially sound decision in the history of ever.
 
2014-03-16 02:01:58 PM  

iheartscotch: Well, homeless people need a place to park their new Cadillac Escalade.

/ I wish I was joking


Please, do continue your anecdote.  I'm dying to find out where this goes.
 
2014-03-16 02:03:48 PM  

Ambivalence: Ever heard the term "living in your car"?  Many homeless people still have vehicles and are otherwise mobile.


Yup a used car is much cheaper than a house or apt. There are plenty of homeless that(in best Chris Farley voice) live in a van down by the river.
 
2014-03-16 02:04:31 PM  

edmo: iheartscotch: Well, homeless people need a place to park their new Cadillac Escalade.

/ I wish I was joking

Because houses are so much cheaper than cars?


How many rent checks can you write with $50,000? There are places where you could write over 100. That's something like 10 years of rent.
 
2014-03-16 02:07:54 PM  
Ya, but here's no recharge station to plug in my Tesla. How the hell am I supposed to the food stamp office?
 
2014-03-16 02:08:41 PM  

nijika: iheartscotch: Well, homeless people need a place to park their new stolen Cadillac Escalade.

/ I wish I was joking

Please, do continue your anecdote.  I'm dying to find out where this goes.


How's that?
 
2014-03-16 02:11:03 PM  

Whatchoo Talkinbout: nijika: iheartscotch: Well, homeless people need a place to park their new stolen Cadillac Escalade.

/ I wish I was joking

Please, do continue your anecdote.  I'm dying to find out where this goes.

How's that?


Thats pretty good for both conjecture and moving of goal posts.  A+
 
2014-03-16 02:13:46 PM  

nijika: Whatchoo Talkinbout: nijika: iheartscotch: Well, homeless people need a place to park their new stolen Cadillac Escalade.

/ I wish I was joking

Please, do continue your anecdote.  I'm dying to find out where this goes.

How's that?

Thats pretty good for both conjecture and moving of goal posts.  A+


My goal posts are always on wheels.
 
2014-03-16 02:14:02 PM  

Iblis824: If someone has cash for a car, should they be required to also own a home?


It could be that they already owned the car before they became homeless, and that their prior home was a rental, not something they owned.
 
2014-03-16 02:15:04 PM  
I'm not going to worry until they get valet and a champagne fountain.

Then I'm there with flair.
 
2014-03-16 02:19:03 PM  
As many stories I have heard about people living in their cars/vans, and having problems finding a place to park and sleep, I think it is a good thing.
they may also only be using the shelters facilities, showers and hot food are always good.
 
2014-03-16 02:20:16 PM  

lordjupiter: No refrigerator but own a car?


Gots A/C tooi.dailymail.co.uk
 
2014-03-16 02:22:50 PM  
Ambivalence:
Ever heard the term "living in your car"?  Many homeless people still have vehicles and are otherwise mobile.

Well I guess they're definitely part of the 2.2 percent who don't have a refrigerator.

From 2006 but still relevant:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/02/us/02cars.html

Richard Pyne, who was evicted from his home after losing his job at a factory in North Philadelphia, said he did not seek help because he feared losing custody of his 17-year-old daughter, Kristinlyn, who was living in their car with his wife, Suzanne, and him.

Last April, a social worker noticed the family asleep in the car at a park, and after explaining their rights, the worker persuaded them to move into a shelter.

The strain of constantly finding a place to wash up and the stress of avoiding detection became unbearable, Mr. Pyne said, adding, "You have no idea how exhausting it gets to survive like this."
 
2014-03-16 02:33:14 PM  

iheartscotch: Iblis824: iheartscotch: Well, homeless people need a place to park their new Cadillac Escalade.

/ I wish I was joking

If someone has cash for a car, should they be required to also own a home? There are a lot of homless by choice as well as those who are homless due to mental or other issues.

I'm not begrudging them their car; I'm just saying that a $50,000 car, that gets like 6 miles to the gallon, might not have been the most financially sound decision in the history of ever.

Not like they have a long round trip commute to work from hme

 
2014-03-16 02:33:35 PM  
Homeless shelters should have nothing more than a bindle rack and boot scraper.
 
2014-03-16 02:34:59 PM  
It's a sign. Soon the 0bamacoffins will be shipped there along with 0bama mind control phones. We'll all be bowing before his holiness fatrbongo soon. This is only a trial run to work out the bugs. WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!
 
2014-03-16 02:35:48 PM  
Because it doesn't happen when your guy is in charge.

www.marxist.com
 
2014-03-16 02:57:51 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Because there aren't people that work there or volunteer there?


They strike me as the type that would take mass transit.
 
2014-03-16 02:57:52 PM  

iheartscotch: Iblis824: iheartscotch: Well, homeless people need a place to park their new Cadillac Escalade.

/ I wish I was joking

If someone has cash for a car, should they be required to also own a home? There are a lot of homless by choice as well as those who are homless due to mental or other issues.

I'm not begrudging them their car; I'm just saying that a $50,000 car, that gets like 6 miles to the gallon, might not have been the most financially sound decision in the history of ever.


As opposed to a house that costs four times that and doesn't move?  It's awful hard to live out of a commuter's subcompact, you know.
 
2014-03-16 02:58:18 PM  

Iblis824: There are a lot of homless by choice as well as those who are homless due to mental or other issues.


The state has no moral duty nor practical interest in supporting people that are homeless by choice.

// Most people that live in their car  aren't doing it because they feel like it, but your argument is still bad and you should feel bad.
 
2014-03-16 02:58:56 PM  

beverly8: As many stories I have heard about people living in their cars/vans, and having problems finding a place to park and sleep, I think it is a good thing.
they may also only be using the shelters facilities, showers and hot food are always good.


Shelters often also hook people up with the paperwork necessary for housing, medical and psychiatric care, job training/leads, various social services, and affordable day care.

It's much easier to do all of those things for those lucky enough to have held on to their car.

/volunteers a lot
 
2014-03-16 03:01:49 PM  

hasty ambush: Peter von Nostrand: Because there aren't people that work there or volunteer there?

They strike me as the type that would take mass transit.


Oh really? And why is that?
 
2014-03-16 03:07:01 PM  

iheartscotch: Iblis824: iheartscotch: Well, homeless people need a place to park their new Cadillac Escalade.

/ I wish I was joking

If someone has cash for a car, should they be required to also own a home? There are a lot of homless by choice as well as those who are homless due to mental or other issues.

I'm not begrudging them their car; I'm just saying that a $50,000 car, that gets like 6 miles to the gallon, might not have been the most financially sound decision in the history of ever.


Yes, because I'm sure homeless people with Cadillac Escalades are just soooooo common. That must be truly indicative of the homeless experience in America. Totes.

/rolls eyes
 
2014-03-16 03:10:45 PM  

edmo: iheartscotch: Well, homeless people need a place to park their new Cadillac Escalade.

/ I wish I was joking

Because houses are so much cheaper than cars?


I'm living in a house that's cheaper than an Escalade, just saying.
 
2014-03-16 03:11:22 PM  

Ishidan: iheartscotch: Iblis824: iheartscotch: Well, homeless people need a place to park their new Cadillac Escalade.

/ I wish I was joking

If someone has cash for a car, should they be required to also own a home? There are a lot of homless by choice as well as those who are homless due to mental or other issues.

I'm not begrudging them their car; I'm just saying that a $50,000 car, that gets like 6 miles to the gallon, might not have been the most financially sound decision in the history of ever.

As opposed to a house that costs four times that and doesn't move?  It's awful hard to live out of a commuter's subcompact, you know.


Like I said earlier; how many rent checks could you write with $50,000? There are places here where you can live for 10 years on $50,000. How many house payments is that? If they need to; they can ride the bus to work. Or find someone to carpool with and pay them a little gas money.

/ you don't need to own a car; they are nice to have, but, you don't absolutely need one
 
2014-03-16 03:12:16 PM  

lindalouwho: hasty ambush: Peter von Nostrand: Because there aren't people that work there or volunteer there?

They strike me as the type that would take mass transit.

Oh really? And why is that?


Because homeless shelters are generally in areas where you wold not want to leave/park your car.  So you get a ride or take mass transit
 
2014-03-16 03:12:32 PM  

UsikFark: Homeless shelters should have nothing more than a bindle rack and boot scraper.

A homeless shelter with a bindle rack and a bindle rack and a boot scraper? Luxury.
When I was a lad, we had NOTHIN'. We used to live in this tiiiny old house, with greaaaaat big holes in the roof. Well when I say "house" it was only a hole in the ground covered by a piece of tarpolin, but it was a house to US.
 
2014-03-16 03:18:32 PM  

thepeterd: UsikFark: Homeless shelters should have nothing more than a bindle rack and boot scraper.
A homeless shelter with a bindle rack and a bindle rack and a boot scraper? Luxury.
When I was a lad, we had NOTHIN'. We used to live in this tiiiny old house, with greaaaaat big holes in the roof. Well when I say "house" it was only a hole in the ground covered by a piece of tarpolin, but it was a house to US.


Ah one of the rich hole dwellers.  At least you had a tarp
 
2014-03-16 03:22:03 PM  

mongbiohazard: iheartscotch: Iblis824: iheartscotch: Well, homeless people need a place to park their new Cadillac Escalade.

/ I wish I was joking

If someone has cash for a car, should they be required to also own a home? There are a lot of homless by choice as well as those who are homless due to mental or other issues.

I'm not begrudging them their car; I'm just saying that a $50,000 car, that gets like 6 miles to the gallon, might not have been the most financially sound decision in the history of ever.

Yes, because I'm sure homeless people with Cadillac Escalades are just soooooo common. That must be truly indicative of the homeless experience in America. Totes.

/rolls eyes


You know what IS indicative of the American Homeless experience? Poor financial decision making. Yes, I understand that it is not always their fault; I understand that the market is capricious; but, they were the ones who put themselves in that situation.

Frankly, I think that basic home finance should be a course in high school. So many kids never have to budget their money; so, they are ill-prepared for the real world. Yes, some of this is due to legit mental/medical issues; but, most of this is poor impulse control.

/ rant end
 
2014-03-16 03:24:16 PM  

iheartscotch: Like I said earlier; how many rent checks could you write with $50,000? There are places here where you can live for 10 years on $50,000. How many house payments is that? If they need to; they can ride the bus to work. Or find someone to carpool with and pay them a little gas money.

/ you don't need to own a car; they are nice to have, but, you don't absolutely need one


A 2008 Escalade with 100K on it goes for $22,000, and that's WITHOUT the residual funk of a family having lived in it.  Or are you suggesting that they're living in a brand new one?

They might be still making their payments because the payments are cheaper than an apartment, and if the car gets repo'ed, they'll have NOTHING.

I work in an area where lots of homeless live in their vehicles.  Not once have I seen anything as nice as an Escalade.  They are mostly old vans and motorhomes with resale values in the very low four figures.
 
2014-03-16 03:25:08 PM  

iheartscotch: You know what IS indicative of the American Homeless experience? Poor financial decision making. Yes, I understand that it is not always their fault; I understand that the market is capricious; but, they were the ones who put themselves in that situation.


You got some evidence to back that up, or are you talking out of your ass?
 
2014-03-16 03:25:27 PM  
We had no lock for our bindles, we relied on a piece of horsehair tied in an intricate knot, relying only on the stupidity of street urchins and difficulty in procuring a sharp blade for the bindle's security. And we liked it!
 
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