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2014-03-16 10:11:26 AM  
34 votes:
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Rot in hell, Fred..
2014-03-16 10:25:27 AM  
17 votes:
He's going to need an unmarked grave or it's going to be shiat on and vandalized for years to come.
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2014-03-16 10:21:04 AM  
17 votes:
They should host a big gay pride parade on the day of his funeral.
2014-03-16 10:17:36 AM  
14 votes:

nekom: His funeral is going to look like burning man


Actually the best funeral would have ZERO attendees, with the family choosing to have his corpse tossed in an unmarked ditch somewhere.
2014-03-16 11:18:24 AM  
13 votes:
I'm ambivalent about his death. On the one hand, I believe that he's a reprehensible wretch, and as such his passing will not mean much to the world. On the other hand, I believe that his very vocal protests forced us to both ensure that the First Amendment remains inviolate and review how we as a society view LGBT folks. By calling attention to the clear hate still expressed by so many for LGBT folks, he may have, in fact and in a small way, precipitated the push for equality that we're now seeing.

I am gladdened by the fact that, if things keep going as they're going, he may live just long enough to see DOMA repealed. That warms my heart, to know on his deathbed that he lived long enough to see everything his hate and fear stood for, overturned, just as that hateful bastard croaks.
2014-03-16 11:21:47 AM  
11 votes:
Meh. Now when Cheney bites it, that will be cause to party.
2014-03-16 11:10:47 AM  
11 votes:
I suddenly am filled with the urge to spread love and friendship to all my fellow humans. No greater insult can be given to this unfortunate man. So farkers, you may be sick, cynical reprobates (those that aren't alts, at any rate), but I thank you for bringing some joy and humor in to my life.
2014-03-16 11:08:04 AM  
11 votes:
If this rumor is true, remember what I said to you Fark Mods. On that glorious day, just call in sick. Don't even bother to try moderating. There's simply going to be no damn way you can hold back the Tsunami of Schadenfreude that's going to slam through Fark like a Praxis Effect.

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2014-03-16 11:45:33 AM  
10 votes:
The thing is, too, that if his goal in life was to try to stamp out homosexuality, hhe was a complete and utter failure at it.  If anything, he was one of the best friends the gay rights movement ever had, because he just made it clear that behind any effort to deny gay people their rights is raw bigotry.

And his rhetoric was so horrifying that it forced other anti gay rights activitsts to tone down their rhetoric, thus makeing it that much harder for them to advocate for what had to have been their dream, a re-criminalization of homosexualty. Because it's hard to make that argument without sounding like the Phelps Family, and puts you in the same group as an asshole who pickets funerals of dead soldiers and children.  Of course, that's because what you believe is as noxious and horrifying as what he did, but he denies you the cover of pretending otherwise.

He was so ineffective at getting his message across that the only logical sounding explanation has to be that it was all an elaborate insurance scam: provoke people into attacking you, sue them, collect the settlement check.
2014-03-16 11:14:37 AM  
9 votes:
I'll never understand, why do Christians cling to life?
2014-03-16 11:08:34 AM  
9 votes:
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2014-03-16 11:53:32 AM  
8 votes:
You're looking at it all wrong.

Don't celebrate his death.

Celebrate the fact that he lived *just* long enough to see gay marriage legalized all over the country.
2014-03-16 11:19:51 AM  
8 votes:

FlyingBacon: Wow. So much hate going on. Keep it classic farkers.


Nothing wrong with hating evil.
2014-03-16 11:13:25 AM  
8 votes:
I will not succumb to his message of hate.

Rest in Peace, hateful man.
2014-03-16 11:43:16 AM  
7 votes:

Lsherm: Maybe this will result in less hate in the world, but I doubt it.  Fred Phelps probably had less hate in his heart than your typical Fark lib.


FlyingBacon: Wow. So much hate going on. Keep it classic farkers.


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2014-03-16 11:24:29 AM  
7 votes:

Nabb1: Protest? Asshole isn't worth the effort.


I say, send words of condolences and encouragement, prayers, and thoughts. Kill the bastards with kindness, and show them how Christianity damn well ought to behave instead of their hateful tripe.
2014-03-16 11:23:00 AM  
7 votes:

JerseyTim: Wouldn't it be ironic of the Westboro Baptist Church protested his funeral?


Wouldn't that be like dividing by zero?

I can see it now: The Phelps clan protesting elder Phelps funeral.  Suddenly a wave of light sweeps out from each of their bodies and washes over the city.  The clan looks around, confused, as if coming out of a trance.  They drop their signs to the sidewalk.  Sherley Phelps, with a smile on her face says to her kin-- "It's over.  The curse is broken."   They celebrate at Denny's.  Fin.
2014-03-16 02:29:36 PM  
6 votes:

TV's Vinnie: You see, when Fred finally croaks and lands ass-first on top of Satan's dick, everyone on Earth is going to celebrate. So, the Phelps Cult has shielded themselves and WILL say "Go ahead and celebrate. We excommunicated with him and we're celebrating too. Thanks for supporting us this way."


That, and if he's been excommunicated and divested of all of his things/holdings in his "church"...it makes for an easy probate after he's gone. Knowing these people, and their talent for abusing the law...this is probably nothing more than a legal ploy. I doubt he was excommunicated for "losing the faith"...more likely, this is simply their end strategy to avoid legally having to pay money, or risking the exposure of some fraud which could have been revealed during probate...another reason that comes to mind: if his estate has nothing the kids who left...have nothing to sue for when he croaks.
2014-03-16 12:35:16 PM  
6 votes:

bobothemagnificent: If a bunch of people protest his funeral, all you'll do is justify his actions to his supporters.  You want to strip him of his supporters, don't do anything.  Just ignore him as most of the rest of the country has done.  Let him and his stupidity fade away to the pages of insignificance.


Just schedule a gay pride parade elsewhere in the same city at the same time. Then his supporters have to choose between attending his funeral and protesting at the parade.
2014-03-16 11:33:48 AM  
6 votes:

Tenga: I'll never understand, why do Christians cling to life?


Think about it. The entire Christian faith is centered around convincing themselves there's eternal life after death and how to make it pleasant rather than horrific. It's always been about the fear of dying. Christians cling to life because they're terrified not to.
2014-03-16 11:17:42 AM  
6 votes:
I'm not going to gloat, but it's hard to pretend that the world won't be a better place without him.
2014-03-16 11:05:37 AM  
6 votes:
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Please, Dear Jesus. Please, Dark Lord Satan. We beg of you. Please let this farker die a horrible and painful death. And, in the end, please let him soil his pants. Amen.
2014-03-16 10:33:23 AM  
6 votes:

RTOGUY: He's going to need an unmarked grave or it's going to be shiat on and vandalized for years to come.


Safest thing would be to have him cremated and scatter the ashes.

Isn't it cute how his wonderful, loving family-slash-church have decided they can do without him?  If he's dying now and he was kicked out back in August, they could have given him the boot just as his health started taking a turn for the worse.  Who needs that expensive liability, right?

On the one hand, I'm scared that Westboro Baptist has apparently become autonomous, but on the other hand I think it'll eventually fall to infighting between the siblings as they try to take over.
2014-03-16 10:21:51 AM  
6 votes:

markie_farkie: nekom: His funeral is going to look like burning man

Actually the best funeral would have ZERO attendees, with the family choosing to have his corpse tossed in an unmarked ditch somewhere.


Though I've always held that the best thing is to never feed the trolls, i.e. ignore those asshats, it would seem pretty fitting and proper to me for an impromptu pride parade to break out at his funeral.  If for no other reason than the lulz that could be generated.  He's beyond "doesn't deserve any respect whatsoever" and well into the "deserves contempt, malice and shame" column.
2014-03-16 10:14:24 AM  
6 votes:
His funeral is going to look like burning man
2014-03-16 12:05:51 PM  
5 votes:
....Someone once said:  "I have never rejoiced in another man's death.  There are some, however, whose passing I have mourned less than others."
2014-03-16 11:10:17 AM  
5 votes:

nekom: His funeral is going to look like burning man


that would be on his level.  he would enjoy that because he wins there.
2014-03-16 11:03:26 AM  
5 votes:
He's one of the people whose death you can truly say will make the world a better place.
2014-03-16 10:31:22 AM  
5 votes:
I want to learn more about Fred being "excommunicated" from his own church.  Is this true?  Why?
2014-03-16 10:19:03 AM  
5 votes:
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2014-03-16 05:20:30 PM  
4 votes:

Miss Alexandra: Interesting note: He's a registered Democrat.


Interesting note:  You have to remember that back when Freddy Boy was growing up, the ultra-regressive social conservatives were part of the Democratic party - AKA the dixiecrats.   The big change happened in the 60s, between a Papist getting elected president and Nixon actively courting the Dixiecrats to defect with the Southern Strategy.

The Dixiecrats are still around, now we just call them the Tea Party.
2014-03-16 01:27:58 PM  
4 votes:

iron de havilland: JohnnyC: iron de havilland: Well, it does show a level of sociopathy on your part that you can classify him as non-human.

I'm sure Fred Phelps is immensely comforted by you considering him one of your own.

He is a human being. He's not "one of my own" insofar as his hatemongering goes, but I'm quite happy knowing that I'm a better man than he.

But, he deserves all the rights accorded to all people.

Although you're probably kidding yourself. He probably thinks you're gay and hates you even as he draws his final, undeserved, breath.

He's free to do that, as I'm free to think him a terrible person.

It's just a shame that so many people who call themselves Christians ignore the teachings of Christ.

/Atheist.


As a Christian, I agree with you. I'm really struggling to reconcile my dislike for the WBC's actions with the idea that every person, even people like Phelps, deserve dignity. He is the person we're talking about when we say "I disagree with what you say but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it."

He's also the person Jesus was talking about when He said:
"Love your neighbor as yourself."
"Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you."
"Turn the other cheek."
"Don't be a self-righteous dickbag." (I'm probably paraphrasing that last one, but who knows, I only know the various English translations

The point is, you are right that too many people who call themselves Christians have no idea, or don't care, what Jesus taught. Thank you for reminding me that it doesn't matter what kind of man Phelps was and is, it matters what kind of man I choose to be in response to him. I really appreciated your post.
2014-03-16 12:54:02 PM  
4 votes:

AspectRatio: that bosnian sniper: Nabb1: Protest? Asshole isn't worth the effort.

I say, send words of condolences and encouragement, prayers, and thoughts. Kill the bastards with kindness, and show them how Christianity damn well ought to behave instead of their hateful tripe.

Yup. This is how to do it.


In this case, I disagree. Every card, every expression of condolences, every flower - all of it will be seen as vindication of their beliefs and actions. Instead of feeling the pain they inflicted on others and reflecting, they will be emboldened by the "support" they receive.

Don't send mixed messages, they won't take from it what you think. Send them a clear message that they and their positions are reviled, and it hurts to have someone protest a funeral.

/spare the rod, spoil the child.
2014-03-16 11:49:01 AM  
4 votes:
The most appropriate  response to this man's death is not a protest but a party. A giant, loud, obnoxious celebration that drowns out the cries of the family mourning this piece of shiat as they tried to drown out the cries of the mourners of the countless families they protested. They need to know that people aren't angry he died because people aren't following 'God's Law', they need to how people are rejoicing his passage and couldn't have wished him dead any sooner. A point NEEDS to be made here, and if I ever get the chance I will personally piss on his grave. PLEASE don't disappoint me America, you can guys truly have the ability to make these people feel awful and for Justice's sake it needs to be done.
2014-03-16 11:47:01 AM  
4 votes:
This will be an interesting conversation.

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2014-03-16 11:40:06 AM  
4 votes:

mudmin: Survey. Whose death excites (excited) farkers most?
1. Phelps
2. Bin Laden


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2014-03-16 11:33:58 AM  
4 votes:
Some of the same people here cheering Phelps's demise were some of the same one clutching their pearls when Breitbart died -- oh, he had a family!  Think of the children!

To me, we could easily marginalize Phelps as a batshiat guy in charge of a batshiat organization, and he should be rightfully excoriated.  But Breitbart was far worse, for he manipulated vulnerable and stupid people to believe lies and to take them as gospel.  Breitbart's damage was much more far reaching.

\so, TL;DR--screw 'em both
2014-03-16 11:27:29 AM  
4 votes:
I fell no remorse for the death of this man in any way.

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2014-03-16 11:26:05 AM  
4 votes:
So apparently you still die even when 100% of your body is cancer.
2014-03-16 11:25:09 AM  
4 votes:

doyner: While I think this guy's "contributions" to society have been extremely counterproductive, I'm not so sure that the proper response to him lying in hospice is hateful vitriol.  It strikes me as just as petty as what everyone is upset with him about.


In most cases I feel the same way, but when someone clearly and repeatedly demonstrates that the only emotion they are capable of is hate, then I have no qualms about responding in kind.
2014-03-16 11:05:34 AM  
4 votes:
He can finally come out of the closet now
2014-03-16 11:05:24 AM  
4 votes:
I'd prefer him to be terminally ill,and long suffering and the only way he can stay alive is through repeated transfusions from gay donors.
2014-03-16 11:02:11 AM  
4 votes:
I've quoted her before - Bette Davis upon hearing Joan Crawford had died: I was taught to always say good about someone. Joan Crawford has died. Good!
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2014-03-16 11:00:20 AM  
4 votes:

nekom: markie_farkie: nekom: His funeral is going to look like burning man

Actually the best funeral would have ZERO attendees, with the family choosing to have his corpse tossed in an unmarked ditch somewhere.

Though I've always held that the best thing is to never feed the trolls, i.e. ignore those asshats, it would seem pretty fitting and proper to me for an impromptu pride parade to break out at his funeral.  If for no other reason than the lulz that could be generated.  He's beyond "doesn't deserve any respect whatsoever" and well into the "deserves contempt, malice and shame" column.


I'd normally disagree out of respect to the family, but since they are equally reprehensible excuses for mammals, I think some "God Hates Bigots" pickets are in order here.
2014-03-16 10:14:15 AM  
4 votes:
It's not often I say this about a person dying.......

GOOD
2014-03-16 05:31:46 PM  
3 votes:

Ringshadow: Just speculation that he's gay. Weirdest wishful thinking ever.


Not so wishful.   There is a documented correlation between extremely homophobic acts and rhetoric and repressed homosexual desires.   People like that want all the gays to go away because they see them as a source of temptation.   It also explains why they insist on viewing homosexuality as a lifestyle choice rather than a biological imperative -- they've chosen to suppress their genuine sexuality, but they can't admit (even to themselves) that's what's going on.   What they really mean is "I've chosen to live a lie, and that fact that you won't live the same lie frightens me".
2014-03-16 03:49:47 PM  
3 votes:
What I would love to see is a quiet protest, where the streets are lined with thousands of people who all turn their backs to his hearse as it passes by. I've always wished everyone would just completely shun the whole group.

I do feel so sad for the children in that family, though. My heart breaks at the thought of what they are exposed to on a regular basis.
2014-03-16 02:56:33 PM  
3 votes:
Phelps simply started the hateful cult, it's the crazy, horrific, mind-numbed arseholes that will continue it.  I've been through Hospice with my Dad, trust me, Phelps is being kept comfy and well cared for, that's the job of Hospice.  Such a hateful monster getting to spend his last days peacefully does seem so unfair, with all the hatred and pain he caused. The best way to bury him-NO MEDIA, NO PROTESTS, NO ONE GIVING A SINGLE DAMN.  Think of him for what he is-a piece of steaming dog shiat you purposefully avoid stepping in.
2014-03-16 02:42:16 PM  
3 votes:
Sure this man was a creep that hurt many people.  But taking revenge and doing to him and his family what he did is not going to help.   Disrespecting his funeral will only legiitimise the tactics he used -- if they were wrong for him they are wrong for the rest of us too.  And if it okay for us to do it, then he was not wrong to use them himself.   It is an opportunity for those who this man attacked to show that they are bigger than he was.   And what is more, there are young children in that family.   If they see this being done to their grandpa it risk alienating them for life.  We want more, not less of these kids to drop out of this cult when they are of age.  Heck, it might even make it less likely that some of the adult members will leave.  Persecution often strengthens such cults.  Heck why do you think the religious right goes through such trouble to tell its sheep that they are persecuted?
2014-03-16 01:36:16 PM  
3 votes:
I imagine he was told last August that he has 6 or so months to live, and he thought "damn, can't go to the pearly gates being a hateful douchebag".  He said something to his flock like "hey let's dial back the hate a little" and his retard daughter freaked out and excommunicated him.  Now he's dying in a hospice and hoping god and the angels aren't keeping track real well.

Personally, I hope there's a stupendously gay dude working at that hospice and he brings his boyfriend into work late one night and the have horrifically crazy butt-sex above him with santorum dripping down all over face.  Then they lick it off and kiss it into his mouth.  But that's just me.  Maybe you're a little more forgiving, but I remember him protesting me when I worked at the Topeka Civic Theater.  I'm not even gay, but I'd suck a dick if it would make his heart stop.
2014-03-16 12:52:53 PM  
3 votes:
I think people should turn this pending occurrence into an opportunity to do some good, and make a donation in Phelp's name to charity he would probably not approve of.
2014-03-16 12:35:00 PM  
3 votes:

TV's Vinnie: If this rumor is true, remember what I said to you Fark Mods. On that glorious day, just call in sick. Don't even bother to try moderating. There's simply going to be no damn way you can hold back the Tsunami of Schadenfreude that's going to slam through Fark like a Praxis Effect.


Death threads are very tricky. Its easy for things to get derailed and tempers flare. Considering who it is that's dying, its probably going to be one of the most brutal and harshest Fark threads ever.

And that evil piece of filth will deserve every ounce of it.
2014-03-16 12:33:22 PM  
3 votes:
Death isn't always a sad thing.
2014-03-16 12:21:13 PM  
3 votes:

doyner: While I think this guy's "contributions" to society have been extremely counterproductive, I'm not so sure that the proper response to him lying in hospice is hateful vitriol.  It strikes me as just as petty as what everyone is upset with him about.


That is a false equivalence.

While it would certainly be indicative of a mature and erudite adult to take the high road - at the same time this is one of the few truly miserable bastards almost anyone (even the goddamn KKK) can agree diminishes our world the longer they are a part of it. And there is good reason everyone feels this way about him and the awful movement he spawned.
2014-03-16 12:13:27 PM  
3 votes:

iron de havilland: Well, it does show a level of sociopathy on your part that you can classify him as non-human.


I'm sure Fred Phelps is immensely comforted by you considering him one of your own.

Although you're probably kidding yourself. He probably thinks you're gay and hates you even as he draws his final, undeserved, breath.
2014-03-16 12:11:47 PM  
3 votes:
No, get hundreds of people to show up to his funeral, sit solemnly, go to the family and pay their condolences. Show these (*#$%(*#$*( pieces of (*$#*($*$ in-the-head (*$#(*$#$ what love really is.

Of course show up dressed in black or rainbow or bright pink.
2014-03-16 12:07:27 PM  
3 votes:

mudmin: FormlessOne: MooseUpNorth: Tenga: I'll never understand, why do Christians cling to life?

Think about it. The entire Christian faith is centered around convincing themselves there's eternal life after death and how to make it pleasant rather than horrific. It's always been about the fear of dying. Christians cling to life because they're terrified not to.

It's an odd paradox - Christians have been repeatedly assured, through their faith, that leading a good Christian life assures them an eternity of Heaven. You'd think that good Christians would not fear death, but embrace a good death as the rewarding end to a virtuous life.

Kind of makes you wonder just how much faith these folks have in their own religion, honestly.

True Christians don't fear death and do embrace it...but not as a reward for a virtuous life (that would be based on works)...but as a reward for coming to grips that as humans they are utterly without virtue and accepting Christ and allowing him to become their virtue.


And the True Scotsman rears its head. So, in other words, I've yet to meet a single "true" Christian - just Christians? Huh.
2014-03-16 12:01:20 PM  
3 votes:
Probably had a change of heart, finally came out and was excommunicated. I can't be bothered to summon any hate for him. His hateful histrionic horseshiate ultimately did nothing more than inspire sympathy for gay rights. RIP, pathetic old bigot.
2014-03-16 12:00:45 PM  
3 votes:
FTFC:

"... may he rot slowly for the shame he brought on TRUE CHRISTIANS...I will be sure to piss on his grave"

Yep, that guys sounds like a "TRUE CHRISTIAN" to me.
2014-03-16 11:52:42 AM  
3 votes:

MooseUpNorth: Tenga: I'll never understand, why do Christians cling to life?

Think about it. The entire Christian faith is centered around convincing themselves there's eternal life after death and how to make it pleasant rather than horrific. It's always been about the fear of dying. Christians cling to life because they're terrified not to.


It's an odd paradox - Christians have been repeatedly assured, through their faith, that leading a good Christian life assures them an eternity of Heaven. You'd think that good Christians would not fear death, but embrace a good death as the rewarding end to a virtuous life.

Kind of makes you wonder just how much faith these folks have in their own religion, honestly.
2014-03-16 11:48:06 AM  
3 votes:

FlyingBacon: Wow. So much hate going on. Keep it classic farkers.


He's still not gonna fark you.

Or he might.  I've heard rumors.

Oh, well.  Time to mourn in my own way.

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2014-03-16 11:43:23 AM  
3 votes:

Lsherm: Maybe this will result in less hate in the world, but I doubt it.  Fred Phelps probably had less hate in his heart than your typical Fark lib.


Look at you! Trolling for attention by way of Fred Phelps on his death bed. Poor guy... you must be pretty hard up if you're willing to stoop to that low.

There... I paid a little attention to you... do you feel better about yourself now? *pat*
2014-03-16 11:38:26 AM  
3 votes:
Oh, if only there were a hell for this scumfark to go to.
2014-03-16 11:30:38 AM  
3 votes:

FormlessOne: FlyingBacon: Wow. So much hate going on. Keep it classic farkers.

Nothing wrong with hating evil.


This! Would you have cried about hearing that Stalin died?
2014-03-16 11:29:17 AM  
3 votes:

FlyingBacon: Wow. So much hate going on. Keep it classic farkers.


His existence was a complete embarrassment to the human race. He deserves none of the common courtesy given to fellow human beings. The world will be better without him.
2014-03-16 11:27:25 AM  
3 votes:

poonesfarm: Can his gravesite double as an interstate rest stop toilet?


This works on so many levels.
2014-03-16 11:21:51 AM  
3 votes:

Tenga: I'll never understand, why do Christians cling to life?


Because they secretly know God doesn't really exist, at least as they perceive it.
2014-03-16 11:20:22 AM  
3 votes:
While I think this guy's "contributions" to society have been extremely counterproductive, I'm not so sure that the proper response to him lying in hospice is hateful vitriol.  It strikes me as just as petty as what everyone is upset with him about.
2014-03-16 11:18:40 AM  
3 votes:

FlyingBacon: Wow. So much hate going on. Keep it classic farkers.


He deserves it.
2014-03-16 11:15:52 AM  
3 votes:
Would have been better if he realized the error of his ways and made some kind of amends to the families he has hurt so deeply throughout the years. I'm just not getting a big happy out of this. What a farking waste and a pity to go through life - as he did - hating and fearing to such freakish levels.

He certainly is/was/whatever every last inch a rotten human being.
2014-03-16 11:14:06 AM  
3 votes:

hardinparamedic: Serious Black: I'd love to know what Fred did to get excommunicated from Westboro.


Probably tried to get Shirley Phelps-Roper to use some farking shampoo on the greasy stank-ass hair of her's. God Hates L'Oreal too, apparently.

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2014-03-16 11:13:28 AM  
3 votes:

machoprogrammer: His grave should be a place where gay men can go and have orgies on top of it


someone should stick a fleshlight in the ground where he is buried.
2014-03-16 11:01:28 AM  
3 votes:

MBK: They should host a big gay pride parade on the day of his funeral.


We have a winner...
2014-03-17 03:20:28 PM  
2 votes:

mudmin: Ghastly: Pascal's wager is possibly the stupidest reason to believe in a religion. It would be one thing if there was only one religion in the world but there are hundreds. What if there is a god, but you're devoutly worshipping the wrong one and just pissing him off more and more each time you go to church.

I'm sorry. I just thought everyone would naturally understand the whole wager thing.  I believe in Christ for many reasons (Which I'm not going to get into at the moment). I've always looked at the wager as being anyone NOT believing in Christ as making the real bet.  I believed in Christ long before the wager concept.  To be honest, I don't really even think the wager is about what you believe as much as how you live.  I think there are people who truly believe in God but think "eh, not sure if I want to serve him." Those are the people I look at who are really making the gamble.

Because I already believe in Christ, there really is no "gamble" for me. I have no downside. It's everyone else who would theoretically be making this gamble.  (if you want to get all pascal-ly).


What wager? Whether god exists or not makes no difference to how I live my life. I don't believe in a god but I'm not closed to the possibility that a god exists. I do know that every one of the thousands of religions mankind has dreamt up in its existence is bullshiat and not one of them even has a god worthy of worship.

If I'm right and I die then my consciousness ceases and it's something else's turn to use my atoms. If I'm wrong and there is a being of infinite intellect, reason, compassion, mercy and love then I can't see how anything I've done in the finite amount of time I've existed merits being condemned to infinite torture and suffering.

I'm not betting anything. I'm living my life trying to cause as little suffering to myself and those around me as possible because if we all live that way then we can all enjoy our time as the universe made aware of itself. I'm not living this way because an invisible sky wizard is promising me an eternal reward or threatening me with eternal damnation. I'm living this way because reason and intellect tell me it's in all our best interests to do so.

You on the other hand believe in a god who is a psychopath and will condemn people to hell if they don't believe what to anyone with a modicum of reason would recognize as simple the ancient version of fantasy literature.

Gods, demons, angels, prophets. These are all the comic book superheros and supervillains of people who hadn't learned to publish comic books yet.

You believe we have something to lose in how we spend our time. Follow the rules of an ancient Jewish death cult and you'll get rewarded with the ultimate kegger that never ends. Don't and the all loving and merciful god will throw you into a lake of fire to be tortured for all eternity. In your mind the logical choice is to follow the death cult and get the kegger, and if you actually believe in a god psychotic enough to create a lake of fire and then throw people into it for all eternity then I guess that would make sense. You see it that I'm betting there is no realm of ultimate and unending torture that a god would chuck me into.

From my perspective I can see no logical reason to believe there is anything at all beyond this life. I'm not saying there isn't, I just don't see any evidence to lead me to believe there is. But if there is an afterlife? Eternal non-ending party sitting around tell god how awesome he is for inviting you? Lake of fire to writhe in agony in for all eternity? C'mon! Really? You believe that actually exists beyond this existence? You don't see those concepts as nothing more than revenge porn for bitter people who grumble "oh yeah, well you'll get yours in the next life and I'll be up in heaven laughing it up and looking down on you suffering forever in the lake of fire". You really think that if a god exists that's what his big plan is? You really think those are the kind of assholes he'd want to surround him for all eternity? Really?
2014-03-16 09:59:39 PM  
2 votes:

Millennium: Ghastly: Millennium: Ghastly: Pascal's wager is possibly the stupidest reason to believe in a religion. It would be one thing if there was only one religion in the world but there are hundreds. What if there is a god, but you're devoutly worshipping the wrong one and just pissing him off more and more each time you go to church.

It's worth noting that Pascal formulated his wager in an intellectual context where there really was only one religion under consideration (with a few different sects, perhaps, but they generally acknowledged one another as worshipping the same God). Nowadays the Tumblr crowd would have a field day with that, but such was the time and place he lived.

That is true, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Taoists, and Hindus were not invented until 1663.

Why do you think I said the Tumblr crowd would have a field day with it? Or, for that matter, why I said there was only one religion "under consideration" in the intellectual context in which Pascal made his wager? The gamble is a bad one, but the people talking about the only context in which it would make sense are more right than I think most of them suspect: that's exactly the context in which Pascal made it.


That's why I point it out. Pascal was an educated man, he would have known those other religions existed yet dismissed them out of hand. He would have had to know his own wager was bullshiat.
2014-03-16 09:29:26 PM  
2 votes:
mudmin:

Well the way I always think about it...if I'm wrong, I have nothing to lose by living a good life, trying to treat people right and follow the principles of the Bible. If you're wrong, you have everything to lose. One of us will be wrong and we won't know for sure until it's all sorted out in the end.

Pascal's wager is possibly the stupidest reason to believe in a religion. It would be one thing if there was only one religion in the world but there are hundreds. What if there is a god, but you're devoutly worshipping the wrong one and just pissing him off more and more each time you go to church.

My personal plan is just try to make my way through this world causing as little misery as possible so that those around me and I can enjoy our time on this globe as much as possible. I'll deal with the afterlife when and if there is one and if there's a god we can discuss it then and if he's going to damn me to hell because I thought the ancient mythology of a bunch of flat-earth believing goat herders was silly, well, he's not the kind of god I'd want to worship anyway.
2014-03-16 03:50:52 PM  
2 votes:

lordjupiter: loonatic112358: lordjupiter: AspectRatio: loonatic112358: I'd like to see this group as a brief blip in human history that is forgotten by all.

This.

WHY?  Just so people can forget an unpleasant but very important lesson?  The answer to everything we don't like isn't "just ignore it and it will fade from history".

No, because they want the attention and to deny them that is the most effective thing you can do. These are people who revel in making people angry and make money by taking advantage of that anger. If when we as a nation look at this era and they're not recognized that is their hell. I know when discussing the era the activities and up oppositions of the Mormon church should be brought up reminding them of their interference in other states


And why do you think they get that reaction from people?  It's because society learns from such shenanigans and eventually vilifies it.  Those who don't learn that lesson either fall into groups like these that already exist or "rediscover" antiquated attitudes that have had their lack of appeal glossed over by time.

Society is a petry dish for human nature.  This kind of hatred and ignorance won't simply vanish.  We need to build up immunity to this kind of thing by attacking it when exposed to it.  When you stop vaccinating it allows old diseases to take hold and become epidemic.

viola.bz


Sadly true.  Much as I like the liberal/Progressive idea of humanity making its way towards enlightenment over the years, it cannot be denied the history is not unidirectional.

Societies can and do go backwards on social issues like civil rights and equality.
2014-03-16 02:53:28 PM  
2 votes:

06Wahoo: I'm certainly no fan of the man, but for all the people who whine about his hate, they hardly seem like the loving types themselves.

But then, I've always found it weird that people who support homosexuals wish homosexuality on people as if it were a punishment.  Apparently, you can have it both ways.

/Please, no stupid jokes off of that last sentence.
//I can easily see the pun written there.


You're not very bright, are you?
It's not the gay that's the punishment, it's the being cursed with the thing you hate.  He could have railed against blacks, and the punishment would be being reincarnated black.  Black itself isn't the punishment, it being what you hated.

But you already knew this and were just being obtuse because it's fun to act like you failed 7th grade.
2014-03-16 02:32:21 PM  
2 votes:
Or...the everyone, including the gay communities, minorities and other people he pissed his special breed of vitriol all over, could send flowers and condolences to the family and loved ones proving that they understand the message of the bible and are closer to the concept of faith ol' Freddy claimed to have the lions share of.


Just sayin'.
2014-03-16 01:57:46 PM  
2 votes:
To all of you wishing Fred Phelps have a long and painful death, may I just point out that dying in Kansas is punishment enough, and we can move on hating our true enemy, which is Karl Rove.
2014-03-16 01:26:42 PM  
2 votes:
Phelps' death should not be cause for protest, nor celebration, but mourning. For the gay community has lost one of their staunchest allies in the fight for equal rights.
2014-03-16 01:21:33 PM  
2 votes:

Heliovdrake: bobothemagnificent: If a bunch of people protest his funeral, all you'll do is justify his actions to his supporters.  You want to strip him of his supporters, don't do anything.  Just ignore him as most of the rest of the country has done.  Let him and his stupidity fade away to the pages of insignificance.

You do know the Phelps clan has no actual supporters right?

You know they are a clan of lawyers and disbarred lawyers?

You know they make their money by doing these protests and then suing anyone who attempts to stop them, or anyone stupid enough to attack them right?

You know they don't believe any of the shiat they say, they are just using religion as a cover to try an piss people off into stopping them from protesting by any means so they can get them into court and collect cash right?


Reality and perception.  There are many who, while not supporting his methods, support his message.  If you want to change the message, have a huge protest funeral turnout that will only further the belief that those who actually support his message that they are right.  It will give them what they think of a legitimacy and continue the never-ending cycle.  If you want to break the cycle, don't give them anything that they can use to further their cause.  The reality is they'll continue to look like idiots, but they'll become really annoying idiots that will add further tension to an already divided nation.  All I'm suggesting is that the biggest insult you can give to an obvious attention whores like them is to not give them any attention.  In return we get some much needed peace and quiet and maybe a lowering of some of the divisions in this country.  In addition, this guy will become a forgotten figure.  Instead of saying, "That bigot Fred Phelps" the next generation will say, "Fred who?  Never heard of him."
And that will be biggest insult that you could possibly deliver to those who legitimately believe in his message.
2014-03-16 01:17:57 PM  
2 votes:

AspectRatio: loonatic112358: I'd like to see this group as a brief blip in human history that is forgotten by all.

This.


WHY?  Just so people can forget an unpleasant but very important lesson?  The answer to everything we don't like isn't "just ignore it and it will fade from history".
2014-03-16 01:10:46 PM  
2 votes:
theconnection.lucianne.com

Too bad Freddy Boy didn't understand Christianity.
2014-03-16 01:03:07 PM  
2 votes:
While everybody's cursing him to hellfire, I for one wish he tells God he's sorry before he croaks.
2014-03-16 12:55:16 PM  
2 votes:
I'm thinking that nothing will be growing on that grave for many many years.

That amount of urine in one place will probably cause a sinkhole.
2014-03-16 12:54:31 PM  
2 votes:

maxwellton: I think people should turn this pending occurrence into an opportunity to do some good, and make a donation in Phelp's name to charity he would probably not approve of.


So every charity?
2014-03-16 12:51:14 PM  
2 votes:
I don't believe in rejoicing someone's death, but this shiatstain makes it hard to keep to that. I certainly believe the world will be a better place without the hate he has spewed for so long.
2014-03-16 12:49:52 PM  
2 votes:

bobothemagnificent: If a bunch of people protest his funeral, all you'll do is justify his actions to his supporters.  You want to strip him of his supporters, don't do anything.  Just ignore him as most of the rest of the country has done.  Let him and his stupidity fade away to the pages of insignificance.


You do know the Phelps clan has no actual supporters right?

You know they are a clan of lawyers and disbarred lawyers?

You know they make their money by doing these protests and then suing anyone who attempts to stop them, or anyone stupid enough to attack them right?

You know they don't believe any of the shiat they say, they are just using religion as a cover to try an piss people off into stopping them from protesting by any means so they can get them into court and collect cash right?
2014-03-16 12:43:51 PM  
2 votes:
www.agentlover.com
2014-03-16 12:32:48 PM  
2 votes:
I'm not going to celebrate his death.  But I sure as hell won't be mourning it either.
2014-03-16 12:30:32 PM  
2 votes:

Serious Black: I'd love to know what Fred did to get excommunicated from Westboro.


My guess is he got the diagnosis of only months to live and only then saw the error of his ways. He then tried to change the church's course and they wanted to hear none of it. Which is a classic "sow the wind, reap the whirlwind" ending.
2014-03-16 12:26:17 PM  
2 votes:
If a bunch of people protest his funeral, all you'll do is justify his actions to his supporters.  You want to strip him of his supporters, don't do anything.  Just ignore him as most of the rest of the country has done.  Let him and his stupidity fade away to the pages of insignificance.
2014-03-16 12:20:53 PM  
2 votes:

MaestroJ: I'm pretty sure the whole Phelps family is expecting a cacophonous protest. They're very rich - they'll probably hold it in the middle of one of their massive private properties where no one can step foot without getting sued for thousands.


I thought they'd been sued recently and didn't have much left, or was that another hate group

Westboro or a white supremacy group or was it both
2014-03-16 12:16:31 PM  
2 votes:

FormlessOne: MooseUpNorth: Tenga: I'll never understand, why do Christians cling to life?

Think about it. The entire Christian faith is centered around convincing themselves there's eternal life after death and how to make it pleasant rather than horrific. It's always been about the fear of dying. Christians cling to life because they're terrified not to.

It's an odd paradox - Christians have been repeatedly assured, through their faith, that leading a good Christian life assures them an eternity of Heaven. You'd think that good Christians would not fear death, but embrace a good death as the rewarding end to a virtuous life.

Kind of makes you wonder just how much faith these folks have in their own religion, honestly.


Many people are more attached to the traditions and trappings of religion because they grew up in it. Look at your first sentence, how often do you here from people who claim to be Christian think of they just go to church and be good act holy and all that bull shiat they'll go to heaven and get to wander streets of gold. Which shows right their they never read their own bible, the source book for everything their supposed to believe. because Jesus says something completely different, that faith in him, etc is it. Later on its brought up that acts of worship, and such are evidence of faith, but they are not what get you in.

In the US so often people rely on others to tell them what to believe instead of just reading the instructions of their faith.
2014-03-16 12:10:55 PM  
2 votes:

AcademGreen: JerseyTim: Wouldn't it be ironic of the Westboro Baptist Church protested his funeral?

Wouldn't that be like dividing by zero?

I can see it now: The Phelps clan protesting elder Phelps funeral.  Suddenly a wave of light sweeps out from each of their bodies and washes over the city.  The clan looks around, confused, as if coming out of a trance.  They drop their signs to the sidewalk.  Sherley Phelps, with a smile on her face says to her kin-- "It's over.  The curse is broken."   They celebrate at Denny's.  Fin.


You win this thread HANDS DOWN.
hej
2014-03-16 12:08:41 PM  
2 votes:

Krustofsky: Still undefeated:


How do you figure? Phelps is like five hundred years old and dying a natural death. Never mind that he did more than enough procreating.
2014-03-16 12:03:54 PM  
2 votes:
Given as he seemed to be on the outs with the church he founded, maybe WBC will preempt everyone else and picket his funeral themselves. Wouldn't that be a trip?

i.imgur.com
2014-03-16 11:55:07 AM  
2 votes:

JohnnyC: JohnTuttle: As evil as his actions may have been, he's still a fellow human being

So your contention is that Phelps is a 'fellow human being'...

I'm thinking you and I have different ideas about what 'fellow', 'human', and 'being' mean.


Well, it does show a level of sociopathy on your part that you can classify him as non-human.

Also,

RIP

upload.wikimedia.org

2014-03-16 11:52:51 AM  
2 votes:
What do you want to bet that the "excommunication" involved old Fred realizing his days were numbered and wanting to repent his sins publicly and beg for redemption and forgiveness and the rest of the family responded by sticking him in a home and pumping him full of drugs until he was conetely loopy? U likely I know, but still an interesting thought.
2014-03-16 11:52:27 AM  
2 votes:

reveal101: A giant, loud, obnoxious celebration that drowns out the cries of the family mourning


They 'excommunicated' him, apparently. You really think people who've been twisted that badly are capable of mourning anybody, especially the asshole who twisted them in the first place?

/  I find it interesting that they've kept it such a secret.
//  Explains why Shirley Phelps-Roper's been at the forefront lately, though.
2014-03-16 11:41:01 AM  
2 votes:

Lsherm: Maybe this will result in less hate in the world, but I doubt it.  Fred Phelps probably had less hate in his heart than your typical Fark lib.



Fred Phelps is not going to fark you, man.
2014-03-16 11:38:51 AM  
2 votes:

Chariset: I think it'll eventually fall to infighting


Agreed. It seems all cults eventually collapse.
2014-03-16 11:38:05 AM  
2 votes:
I don't like the guy but I have the feeling that a good many folks protesting his funeral are going to fall into the category of "you're not helping".
2014-03-16 11:37:22 AM  
2 votes:

Shadowknight: nullptr: Did the church oust him because he came out as gay? I mean, we all knew there was a 50/50 chance of him being buried deep in the closet.

/ oh so very deep

I actually doubt that.  I do know that a good number of his brood have defected and left the church.  Most of that number have even come out and said that they think he is wrong and don't have anything against gays.  So I'm wondering if maybe the majority of them didn't buy his brand of crazy, and saw no other reason than to boot him.


I'd be willing to money on the idea that the old man may have expressed regret that his clinging to a rather odd interpretation of the Bible has cost him the companionship and fellowship of many of his sons, daughters, grandsons and graddaughters.  His offspring that still cling tight to their beliefs saw this as weakness and removed him from the Westboro Baptist Church, lest his sentimentality be an unhealthy influence on others, particularly the younger members.
2014-03-16 11:36:24 AM  
2 votes:
Well, great. The first time in five years I left him out of my dead pool. But go on, I won't complain.
2014-03-16 11:35:55 AM  
2 votes:

JohnTuttle: As evil as his actions may have been, he's still a fellow human being


So your contention is that Phelps is a 'fellow human being'...

I'm thinking you and I have different ideas about what 'fellow', 'human', and 'being' mean.
2014-03-16 11:32:22 AM  
2 votes:
There's a problem in my mind in the fact that there's so many ways to respond to this, and all of them seem right.

Protest his funeral.
Ignore his funeral.
Throw - as was mentioned earlier - a "Burning Man"-level party at his funeral.
Bury the funeral with genuine condolences and flowers.

As evil as his actions may have been, he's still a fellow human being, and seeing your end has to suck for everyone involved.
2014-03-16 11:31:22 AM  
2 votes:
Good.

Now all I need is Pat Robertson to bite it and today would be perfect.
2014-03-16 11:29:10 AM  
2 votes:

Recoil Therapy: They could probably solve California's drought if there was a piss tube installed over Fred's grave


That's a terrible idea. Do you know how many pairs of tap shoes that would ruin?
2014-03-16 11:28:34 AM  
2 votes:
To paraphrase a time-honored quote:  I've never wished a person dead, but have read their obituaries with great pleasure.

MBK: They should host a big gay pride parade on the day of his funeral.


That, with Lady Gaga as Grand Marshall.
2014-03-16 11:27:36 AM  
2 votes:

bdub77: Tenga: I'll never understand, why do Christians cling to life?

Because they secretly know God doesn't really exist, at least as they perceive it.


Kind of my thinking as well.The same way that many non believers find faith on their deathbed. Many believers lose it.
2014-03-16 11:27:12 AM  
2 votes:

Chariset: RTOGUY: He's going to need an unmarked grave or it's going to be shiat on and vandalized for years to come.

Safest thing would be to have him cremated and scatter the ashes.

Isn't it cute how his wonderful, loving family-slash-church have decided they can do without him?  If he's dying now and he was kicked out back in August, they could have given him the boot just as his health started taking a turn for the worse.  Who needs that expensive liability, right?

On the one hand, I'm scared that Westboro Baptist has apparently become autonomous, but on the other hand I think it'll eventually fall to infighting between the siblings as they try to take over.


Scatter the ashes? How about flush the ashes? This guy is one of the worst pieces of shiat on the planet. Fark him.
2014-03-16 11:26:58 AM  
2 votes:
Can his gravesite double as an interstate rest stop toilet?
2014-03-16 11:25:30 AM  
2 votes:
Can the thread for Phelps' death be the first official use of the Fabulous tag? Please? Pretty please with sugar on top?
2014-03-16 11:18:44 AM  
2 votes:

FlyingBacon: Wow. So much hate going on. Keep it classic farkers.


No, classic would be

i6.photobucket.com
2014-03-16 11:16:55 AM  
2 votes:
My coffee tasted better after reading this. Freddy boy, tell us again how you are going to heaven? XD
2014-03-16 11:16:49 AM  
2 votes:

campblood.org

RIP Fred Phelps

2014-03-16 11:16:39 AM  
2 votes:
So I casually googled and I can't find any real explanation on his being excommunicated. Just speculation that he's gay. Weirdest wishful thinking ever.

Also,
svg.xs4all.nl
2014-03-16 11:14:58 AM  
2 votes:
I think this proves the existence of God.

I've long said that people like him live long lives because they aren't allowed to leave the planet until they stop farking up.  Kind of like how you don't let your dog back in until after you know that it pooped.  God didn't want that filth in His house.

Rather curious to know the details surrounding the excommunication, now.
2014-03-16 11:09:11 AM  
2 votes:

Serious Black: I'd love to know what Fred did to get excommunicated from Westboro.


i23.photobucket.com
2014-03-16 11:08:10 AM  
2 votes:

anfrind: I wouldn't mind seeing that happen while he's still alive.  Make him lie on his deathbed while listening to angry people telling him that he's going to Hell.


And feed his persecution/martyr complex, letting him believe he was justified while slipping off the mortal coil?  Naw, let him die with as little fanfare as possible, and then light the pride candle after.
2014-03-16 11:07:47 AM  
2 votes:
i792.photobucket.com
2014-03-16 11:07:45 AM  
2 votes:
Kill 'em with kindness. Everybody send flowers.
2014-03-16 11:06:41 AM  
2 votes:
Rumor has it that Fred was excommunicated by his own kids two years ago.

Probably because they finally realized he was heavily closeted.
2014-03-16 11:06:27 AM  
2 votes:
I'd love to know what Fred did to get excommunicated from Westboro.
2014-03-16 11:06:08 AM  
2 votes:
Someone should sodomize him with a rusty baseball bat before he dies..
2014-03-16 11:04:09 AM  
2 votes:
I generally don't wish death/ill health upon anyone but long ago made an exception for this stain upon humanity.  All I can say about this news is .... good.

They could probably solve California's drought if there was a piss tube installed over Fred's grave

/leading to a purification plant of course
2014-03-16 11:03:38 AM  
2 votes:
He's about to see how god feels about bigots...or how imaginary people feel about nothing.
2014-03-16 11:03:09 AM  
2 votes:
No Spiffy tag?

/burn in hell
//you asshole
2014-03-16 10:17:39 AM  
2 votes:
i49.tinypic.com
2014-03-17 03:31:35 PM  
1 vote:

ciberido: spongeboob: FlyingBacon: Wow. So much hate going on. Keep it classic farkers.

Reap what you sow, don't think Farkers are going to be hating when the Dali Lama dies

Bet you some do.  Not nearly as many, but some will.  There are plenty of Farkers who are very vocal about hating ALL religions.

I've seen threads where a few Farkers were hating all over Mother Theresa.  Nobody gets a pass here.


Do some research. Mother Teresa was a pain queen who liked to hobnob with the rich and famous. She believed that suffering made one holier, so the more you suffered, the more holy you were. She was horrible.
2014-03-17 03:27:06 PM  
1 vote:

ciberido: spongeboob: FlyingBacon: Wow. So much hate going on. Keep it classic farkers.

Reap what you sow, don't think Farkers are going to be hating when the Dali Lama dies

Bet you some do.  Not nearly as many, but some will.  There are plenty of Farkers who are very vocal about hating ALL religions.

I've seen threads where a few Farkers were hating all over Mother Theresa.  Nobody gets a pass here.


Now why would Farkers hate Mother Teresa
 Believers are indeed enjoined to abhor and eschew abortion, but they are not required to affirm that abortion is "the greatest destroyer of peace," as MT fantastically asserted to a dumbfounded audience when receiving the Nobel Peace Prize.* Believers are likewise enjoined to abhor and eschew divorce, but they are not required to insist that a ban on divorce and remarriage be a part of the state constitution, as MT demanded in a referendum in Ireland (which her side narrowly lost) in 1996. Later in that same year, she told Ladies Home Journal that she was pleased by the divorce of her friend Princess Diana, because the marriage had so obviously been an unhappy one ...
.....MT was not a friend of the poor. She was a friend of poverty. She said that suffering was a gift from God. She spent her life opposing the only known cure for poverty, which is the empowerment of women and the emancipation of them from a livestock version of compulsory reproduction. And she was a friend to the worst of the rich, taking misappropriated money from the atrocious Duvalier family in Haiti (whose rule she praised in return) and from Charles Keating of the Lincoln Savings and Loan. Where did that money, and all the other donations, go? The primitive hospice in Calcutta was as run down when she died as it always had been-she preferred California clinics when she got sick herself-and her order always refused to publish any audit. But we have her own claim that she opened 500 convents in more than a hundred countries, all bearing the name of her own order. Excuse me, but this is modesty and humility? ..
 Many volunteers who went to Calcutta came back abruptly disillusioned by the stern ideology and poverty-loving practice of the "Missionaries of Charity," but they had no audience for their story.


Maybe some Farkers hate her just for being religious but most Farkers who hate her, hate her for the above, and about her being religious just go here

Mother Teresa was a hypocrite who wanted poor people to suffer to pray to a God she didn't believe in and used money that could have helped them to open convents instead, convents that bore the name of Order.  She deserve all the farking scorn that Farkers can throw at her.
2014-03-17 01:23:11 PM  
1 vote:

mudmin: Pennsylvania Dutch Oven: [img.fark.net image 200x198]

If you want to know what the Bible says, God hates....
16There are six things the Lord hates,
    seven that are detestable to him:
17        haughty eyes,
        a lying tongue,
        hands that shed innocent blood,
18        a heart that devises wicked schemes,
        feet that are quick to rush into evil,
19        a false witness who pours out lies
        and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.

The book of Proverbs is poetic, though and is meant to be more generalities than a systematic theology.


You can identify up to 95% of the RW in this country based on that passage.

100 % of them will reply "Yes, but since I'm serving the lord, I can do all that and be forgiven."

That same 100% hope it never comes to pass (think the Jews at the end of "The Ten Commandments" as Moses came down from the top of Mt. Sinai).
2014-03-17 10:33:26 AM  
1 vote:

Mambo Bananapatch: Benevolent Misanthrope: hope this shiatstain dies alone, afraid, and in unimaginable agony while the people he created to be hateful farks like himself ignore him, having excommunicated him already.  I hope he gets to his Heaven and his god says, "I know thee not."  I hope he is cast into eternal torment, as his religion says those who do such things will be.

He won't. He'll go into oblivion like the rest of us, and with his last breath, no matter how painful it might be, he will exhale it secure in the belief that he lived his life as a righteous man, and will shortly be entering the Kingdom of Heaven. Sorry.


I know.  But a girl can dream.
2014-03-17 09:55:32 AM  
1 vote:

Callous: I would like to see a group with rainbow signs expressing condolences for their loss crash the funeral. Show the ones that aren't so steeped in the hate that there is more in life than who God hates the most this week.

Might cause or accelerate the implosion of that "church".

Don't give them something to use as propaganda to maintain a grip on the younger members. Gay people say their campaign for equality is all about the love. Be the better human beings and show them the love they preach doesn't exist.

Do something that will open their eyes and not give them a reason to close their minds and harden their hearts.


AWESOME troll attempt, dude.

For JUST a MOMENT you almost had me believe that ANYONE in the WBC would have ANY idea about what compassion, love, or charity actually is.

They deserve none of that because they constantly, purposely, and deliberately CHOSE not to offer ANY of those things to all of the people whose funerals they violated, not to mention all of the other completely innocent mourners.

I'm liking the compromise some people have suggested:  instead of partying over his death or making the bizarre performance art of offering the WBC condolences, why not donate $$$ and time to causes that Phelps HATES.  That way his legacy is tarnished, and we can send him to hell while ALSO helping people.
2014-03-17 06:59:17 AM  
1 vote:

"Thou Shalt Not Judge"


But in this dick's case I'm wiling to make an exception.

2014-03-17 05:13:18 AM  
1 vote:

FlyingBacon: I dont hate anyone. I just eat more popcorn and let everyone else do the hating.


who asked?
2014-03-17 01:25:30 AM  
1 vote:
When it comes down to it, while we all make mistakes, there are few people truly worthy of eternal damnation. Phelps is one of those people. The Bible may teach forgiveness, but even for the Son of God forgiving someone who dedicated his life purely to creating misery for all during their most vulnerable moments, all while doing it in His name...

If it never set in before, I really hope the fear of what is coming next is eating him up inside.
2014-03-16 11:38:32 PM  
1 vote:

Kali-Yuga: mudmin:

Well the way I always think about it...if I'm wrong, I have nothing to lose by living a good life, trying to treat people right and follow the principles of the Bible. If you're wrong, you have everything to lose. One of us will be wrong and we won't know for sure until it's all sorted out in the end.

Pascal's Wager? Really you can't even come up with a better way to rationalize your irrational beliefs than that?

What if you've chosen the wrong god out of the tens of thousands man has invented? What if you've chosen the wrong sect of christianity out of the estimated 30,000 or more that exist?  The odds of you choosing or being indoctrinated into the right sect of the right religion are exceedingly slim.

And as long as we're just making up versions of the afterlife since none have any credible evidence or proof, how about this one?

The bible serves as a test of credulity and when you die and meet god, if you were gullible enough to believe the contents of a book full of errors, atrocities, misogyny, absurdities and contradictions you get punished.
While the people who used their 'god given' gifts of intelligence and reason to see it was all obvious bullshiat and were decent people without having to be threatened by an invisible man in the sky.


The thing I love about Pascal's wager is how much of a douchebag drama queen god must be to be so up tight about every single human dedicating every moment of their life to him/her/it/[style of pasta].  Seriously he is like a teenage girl.  "OMG you totally ignored me I'm deleting you from my friends on Facebook you dumb slut."
2014-03-16 11:04:15 PM  
1 vote:
mudmin:
Well the way I always think about it...if I'm wrong, I have nothing to lose by living a good life, trying to treat people right and follow the principles of the Bible. If you're wrong, you have everything to lose. One of us will be wrong and we won't know for sure until it's all sorted out in the end.

I can not prove there isn't a god, but I know for certain, without a doubt, that the bible is utter bullshiat. It's no closer to being the words of a divine being than Harry Potter. And anyone who has ever read it and study even a brief history of it can figure that out, assuming their want of heaven isn't greater then their common sense.

Just because we want there to be a heaven, a god, and a divine plan so everything happens for a reason doesn't mean it real. As the Rolling Stones said "You don't always get what you want."
2014-03-16 10:24:19 PM  
1 vote:

WeenerGord: Good riddance to bad rubbish. This is what the scumbag did to his own sons...Warning, it may make you sick to read it. Why didn't this scumbag go to jail for what he did!

Addicted to Hate: The Fred Phelps Story
Chapter Two: Daddy's Hands
Mark Phelps feels nauseated whenever he remembers that night. He was hit over 60 times and his brother, Nate, over 200 with a mattock handle. Nate went into shock. Mark didn't. A boy who became a compulsive counter to handle the stress, Mark counted every stroke. His and Nate's. While their father screamed obscenities and his brother screamed in pain. Every 20 strokes, their mother wiped their faces off in the tub. Nate passed out anyway. That was Christmas Day.
Though he believes he should be the next governor of Kansas, Pastor Phelps has never believed in Christmas. A mattock is a pick-hoe using a wooden handle heavier than a bat. Fred swung it with both hands like a ballplayer and with all his might. "The first blow stunned your whole body," says Mark. "By the third blow, your backside was so tender, even the lightest strike was agonizing, but he'd still hit you like he wanted to put it over the fence. By 20, though, you'd have grown numb with pain. That was when my father would quit and start on my brother. Later, when the feeling had returned and it hurt worse than before, he'd do it again. "After 40 strokes, I was weak and nauseous and very pale. My body hurt terribly. Then it was Nate's turn. He got 40 each time. "I staggered to the bathtub where my mom was wetting a towel to swab my face. Behind me, I could hear the mattock and my brother was choking and moaning. He was crying and he wouldn't stop." The voice in the phone halts. After an awkward moment, clearing of throats, it continues: "Then I heard my father shouting my name. My mom was right there, but she wouldn't help me. It hurt so badly during the third beating that I kept wanting to drop so he would hit me in the head. I was hoping I'd be knocked out, or killed...a ...


Thank you.  I was starting to feel bad for "Old man, alone, so stupid and misguided, finally saw the light..."  No.  He doesn't get that from me and shouldn't from anyone else.  Evil.
2014-03-16 09:42:03 PM  
1 vote:

FlyingBacon: Wow. So much hate going on. Keep it classic farkers.


Reap what you sow, don't think Farkers are going to be hating when the Dali Lama dies
2014-03-16 09:37:51 PM  
1 vote:
mudmin:

Well the way I always think about it...if I'm wrong, I have nothing to lose by living a good life, trying to treat people right and follow the principles of the Bible. If you're wrong, you have everything to lose. One of us will be wrong and we won't know for sure until it's all sorted out in the end.

Pascal's Wager? Really you can't even come up with a better way to rationalize your irrational beliefs than that?

What if you've chosen the wrong god out of the tens of thousands man has invented? What if you've chosen the wrong sect of christianity out of the estimated 30,000 or more that exist?  The odds of you choosing or being indoctrinated into the right sect of the right religion are exceedingly slim.

And as long as we're just making up versions of the afterlife since none have any credible evidence or proof, how about this one?

The bible serves as a test of credulity and when you die and meet god, if you were gullible enough to believe the contents of a book full of errors, atrocities, misogyny, absurdities and contradictions you get punished.
While the people who used their 'god given' gifts of intelligence and reason to see it was all obvious bullshiat and were decent people without having to be threatened by an invisible man in the sky.
2014-03-16 08:29:20 PM  
1 vote:
Fuelled by hate, he was a vile creature who wasted his life spreading bigotry. People shouldn't picket his funeral, nor should they spare him a thought. He should simply be forgotten.
2014-03-16 07:45:28 PM  
1 vote:

bigsteve3OOO: I sincerely pray that before he dies he can accept the true words of Jesus and love all.


I think there are exceptions to using the Lord's name in vain and blasphemy that a little wink of the eye and wiggle of the nose and *poof* forgiven doesn't really work on.  The guy has disgraced the religion and the people who follow it in the name of doing God's work.  I can't see that going unanswered.
2014-03-16 07:21:47 PM  
1 vote:
i.imgur.com
2014-03-16 06:35:07 PM  
1 vote:

TheShavingofOccam123: I hope his children enjoy his funeral. I hope it's ringed by squads of paired off, naked LGBTs rutting in joyous celebration.


GAY, FURRY SEX FOR EVERYBODY!

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2014-03-16 05:44:41 PM  
1 vote:

Colour_out_of_Space: I will not succumb to his message of hate.

Rest in Peace, hateful man.


Done in fifty three.
Never dance on a troll's grave, it gives the rest of them validation.
2014-03-16 05:09:56 PM  
1 vote:
Die slowly and painfully, you piece of shiat.   While it would be nice to believe that there is a Hell you could spend the rest of eternity in, it would be more fitting for you to realize in your dying moments that there is no afterlife and that you wasted the entirety of your existence worshiping a figment of your own imagination.
2014-03-16 05:07:35 PM  
1 vote:
 A facebook post is not a news source, even if it's indeed a family member
2014-03-16 05:04:21 PM  
1 vote:

Ghastly: Earguy: I want to learn more about Fred being "excommunicated" from his own church.  Is this true?  Why?

Probably fell mouth first on a dick.

It can happen.


Wally:  I went out driving, because as you know I love driving... when suddenly I had to take the biggest pee in the world. So I saw this washroom. I stopped in, but it was full of those "types." You know, queers and queens. So one of them tried to kiss me... and I said, "No! No, no." But he just kept kissing me. Why would he do that?
 
Psychiatrist: Well, didn't you tell me that you had... gripped him by the buttocks and pulled him closer?

Wally:  Yes, but that was 'cause I was concerned that he might fall. Doctor, his pants were down around his goddamn ankles.
2014-03-16 04:37:40 PM  
1 vote:

The Glorified Jailer: The only reason I still live in Kansas


You've stayed in Kansas waiting for Fred to die so you can urinate on his gravestone?   I think you're giving him a little but too much importance in your life.   Fred was a mean and hateful person full of piss and vinegar and yet he is still of no consequence.   He should have a peaceful death and a quiet family funeral.  Maybe he'll even be cremated so we don't have to hear of people desecrating his grave.

The best result that can come from Fred's death is that we can quit talking about him and his attention whoring around the country.    If you actually lived in Topeka, you'd know the best way to handle Fred is to ignore him.  Don't even turn your head his direction.  Don't put his stupid hatred in the paper or on TV.  Just ignore him.

/And his death
2014-03-16 04:12:28 PM  
1 vote:

Trixie212: Mugato: Trixie212: I do feel so sad for the children in that family, though. My heart breaks at the thought of what they are exposed to on a regular basis.

All hope is not lost though. There was a teen singer duo named Prussian Blue, you can look them up, who sang about white pride and Hitler and all that shiat because that's how they were raised. Then they grew up and realized WTF are we doing? And turned their thinking around. People can get over their farked up upbringing.

You're right. They have had some family members that defected. It's interesting to read their stories.


From what I remember wasn't it more a case of they tried pot, discovered when they're stoned they suddenly don't hate anybody  and wish them dead anymore and found that being stoned and happy is better than being sober and hateful.
2014-03-16 04:01:20 PM  
1 vote:

SPLAMM: God hates Freds


False. Mr. Rogers was a Fred.

Hating Mr. Rogers is something even Satan couldn't bring himself to do.
2014-03-16 03:58:43 PM  
1 vote:

06Wahoo: I'm certainly no fan of the manHitler, but for all the people who whine about his hate, they hardly seem like the loving types themselves.


Hmm, it's almost like there is a valid reason for hating an individual who has done wrong, you know unlike ignorantly hating an entire group for superficial reasons.
2014-03-16 03:35:25 PM  
1 vote:

06Wahoo: I'm certainly no fan of the man, but for all the people who whine about his hate, they hardly seem like the loving types themselves.


So condemning the sort of hateful bile that got Matthew Shepard tied to a fence is "whining".

Yes yes, both sides are just as bad but the important thing is you've found a way to feel superior to both.

/pat pat on the head.
2014-03-16 03:32:34 PM  
1 vote:

Marine1: It's not too late to repent, Fred.


Unless all of his progeny choose to do so as well, it is already too late. His seed's been sown.
2014-03-16 03:18:43 PM  
1 vote:

Aquapope: 06Wahoo: I'm certainly no fan of the man, but for all the people who whine about his hate, they hardly seem like the loving types themselves.

But then, I've always found it weird that people who support homosexuals wish homosexuality on people as if it were a punishment.  Apparently, you can have it both ways.

/Please, no stupid jokes off of that last sentence.
//I can easily see the pun written there.

You're not very bright, are you?
It's not the gay that's the punishment, it's the being cursed with the thing you hate.  He could have railed against blacks, and the punishment would be being reincarnated black.  Black itself isn't the punishment, it being what you hated.



THIS^^ Like this line in the classic movie "Trading Places":
"Yeah. You know, it occurs to me that the best way you hurt rich people is by turning them into poor people."
- Billy Ray Valentine

For someone like the Koch brothers or Mitt Romney, their worst nightmare would be poverty... abject, soul grinding, taking the bus everywhere and paying the fare in pennies while living in a 20 year old broken down station wagon by the river, one meal a day from the dumpster poverty. For someone like this fetid asshole being reincarnated as a a homosexual and having to deal with all the sh*t he and other "christians" heaped upon gays during his lifetime wouldn't be adequate punishment, but a good start.
2014-03-16 03:06:39 PM  
1 vote:
Time to work on my sign: "God loves all, even you." Then we can all pray for Phelps. If this awful being could find redemption before he goes, I could almost find myself actually believing in god again.
2014-03-16 02:50:44 PM  
1 vote:
The daughter's in charge now. When she goes, either to prison or the grave, the cult will implode.
2014-03-16 02:46:25 PM  
1 vote:
imageshack.com
2014-03-16 02:43:37 PM  
1 vote:

FormlessOne: MooseUpNorth: Tenga: I'll never understand, why do Christians cling to life?

Think about it. The entire Christian faith is centered around convincing themselves there's eternal life after death and how to make it pleasant rather than horrific. It's always been about the fear of dying. Christians cling to life because they're terrified not to.

It's an odd paradox - Christians have been repeatedly assured, through their faith, that leading a good Christian life assures them an eternity of Heaven. You'd think that good Christians would not fear death, but embrace a good death as the rewarding end to a virtuous life.

Kind of makes you wonder just how much faith these folks have in their own religion, honestly.


I would be an idiot if I deny that I fear death.  After all, it's the Ultimate Unknown.  So many possibilities.  But yes, in my Lutheran tradition, I will see death as the transformed passage to heaven.  Like you said, it will be a good end to Christians who by faith, lived a virtuous life.

When I face death, I will not boast of my good deeds.  I will not boast of my ability to garner a soupcon of faith.  In fact, I interpret faith as a Gift, not something I muster up via willpower.  Most likely, I will tell those around me that I am unworthy to enter through the Void we call death.  I will thank those for loving me and being a part of my life.  And I will pray that Jesus will have mercy on me.  I will be brave in the process. That is all I can do.
2014-03-16 02:23:25 PM  
1 vote:

Benevolent Misanthrope: Tenga: I'll never understand, why do Christians cling to life?

Because they are human and we are hard wired to survive.  Spiritually, I think it has to do with knowing that they are human and have not lived up to the standard that gets you into Heaven.  They fear at a very deep level that even though they tried, they are going to hell.


Christians, like me, who subscribe to the "faith and grace, not works" theology don't fear going to Hell. To them, they were guaranteed Heaven the instant they put their faith in Jesus. They don't fear being dead. However, it's that transition that's scary. We humans fear big changes, even when they are good. It's why people hate High School until that last month before they graduate, then they want to cherish every moment and are afraid of what it means to graduate and not come back. (Even if you are going to a much, much better place.)

I don't fear being dead. And if I could be guaranteed an instant, painless death, I'd be a lot happier. However, what I fear is the long, slow decline. My grandfather died of Alzheimer's and it's what I fear the most about dying: losing everything I am and waiting for death. I also fear that I haven't done enough, and that there's one more thing (at least) I still need to do. I'm not ready to punch my ticket quite yet and would like to put it off as long as possible. Plus, I'd hate to die suddenly and leave my wife alone. I'm sure she'll eventually move on, but it would suck for her, and I'd hate to do that to her.

So, yeah, it's not necessarily a contradiction or a lack of faith to not be wild about dying. In fact, Christians who are a little too eager to die make me nervous. Not to mention those whose retirement plans are "Being Raptured." I remember reading about the Christians who spent their life savings spreading the word about Rapture 2011. All of them were running from something in their lives and refusing to deal with their issues. They were eager for a way out, and then the worst happened. They were forced to continue living.

So having something to live for isn't a bad thing. Especially if you believe that you're doing good while here on Earth.
2014-03-16 02:22:29 PM  
1 vote:
I'm guessing the whole "excommunicating" thing was what the Phelpses think is a Cunning Plan.

lawrenceofcyberia.blogs.com

You see, when Fred finally croaks and lands ass-first on top of Satan's dick, everyone on Earth is going to celebrate. So, the Phelps Cult has shielded themselves and WILL say "Go ahead and celebrate. We excommunicated with him and we're celebrating too. Thanks for supporting us this way."

And then seven billion people will all go
fotos.portalcab.com
2014-03-16 02:21:31 PM  
1 vote:

bindlestiff2600: what would be the going cost for a brass band in that area?


to play a medley of show tunes and Queen songs.
2014-03-16 02:20:47 PM  
1 vote:

hej: Krustofsky: Still undefeated:

How do you figure? Phelps is like five hundred years old and dying a natural death. Never mind that he did more than enough procreating.


Basically, we're all gonna die, natural or otherwise. Bonus will be if it's a "Cut off the head, and the body will follow" scenario, but it's at least a start.
2014-03-16 02:13:44 PM  
1 vote:

Mart Laar's beard shaver: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 684x452]

Goodnight, Jayhawk-man.


Meanwhile, in Missouri...

media3.s-nbcnews.com
2014-03-16 02:12:37 PM  
1 vote:

iron de havilland: JohnnyC: iron de havilland: Well, it does show a level of sociopathy on your part that you can classify him as non-human.

I'm sure Fred Phelps is immensely comforted by you considering him one of your own.

He is a human being. He's not "one of my own" insofar as his hatemongering goes, but I'm quite happy knowing that I'm a better man than he.

But, he deserves all the rights accorded to all people.

Although you're probably kidding yourself. He probably thinks you're gay and hates you even as he draws his final, undeserved, breath.

He's free to do that, as I'm free to think him a terrible person.

It's just a shame that so many people who call themselves Christians ignore the teachings of Christ.

/Atheist.


Agreed.

Nice to see some humanity in here. Hate can turn the best of us astray.

/WBC saddens me greatly
//Lives in Topeka so I get to be exposed to it constantly
2014-03-16 02:12:30 PM  
1 vote:
www.boomtron.com

"His contract's nearly up."
2014-03-16 02:11:23 PM  
1 vote:

I disagreed with his politics, his religious stance and his tactics. But what I didn't like the most was his family was basically destroyed by him. I know what it's like to have an entire extended family held prisoner by a religious rigid autocrat. When he passed at 95, the whole family scattered to the winds, some couldn't put enough geography between.


Now the farm land was sold, warehouses stand there, all the houses torn down.


I



I hope the family heals. I mean this with all sincerity.
2014-03-16 02:03:36 PM  
1 vote:

Miss Alexandra: Phelps and his bunch are just obnoxious.  They have no clue.

Interesting note:  He's a registered Democrat.

/doesn't like d OR r


And you doubt heliocentricity, your point?
2014-03-16 01:59:48 PM  
1 vote:

FormlessOne: I'm ambivalent about his death. On the one hand, I believe that he's a reprehensible wretch, and as such his passing will not mean much to the world. On the other hand, I believe that his very vocal protests forced us to both ensure that the First Amendment remains inviolate and review how we as a society view LGBT folks. By calling attention to the clear hate still expressed by so many for LGBT folks, he may have, in fact and in a small way, precipitated the push for equality that we're now seeing.

I am gladdened by the fact that, if things keep going as they're going, he may live just long enough to see DOMA repealed. That warms my heart, to know on his deathbed that he lived long enough to see everything his hate and fear stood for, overturned, just as that hateful bastard croaks.


I think you have a point. Most people that oppose gay marriage ( I think) don't hate and loathe members of the LGBT community. Not the way Phelps does. They will look at a wretched old hick like him and ask if they are really on the right side.  If anything, I think he helped force the issue into the mainstream consciousness. I hope he makes this connection before he is no more.
2014-03-16 01:50:13 PM  
1 vote:

mudmin: FormlessOne: MooseUpNorth: Tenga: I'll never understand, why do Christians cling to life?

Think about it. The entire Christian faith is centered around convincing themselves there's eternal life after death and how to make it pleasant rather than horrific. It's always been about the fear of dying. Christians cling to life because they're terrified not to.

It's an odd paradox - Christians have been repeatedly assured, through their faith, that leading a good Christian life assures them an eternity of Heaven. You'd think that good Christians would not fear death, but embrace a good death as the rewarding end to a virtuous life.

Kind of makes you wonder just how much faith these folks have in their own religion, honestly.

True Christians don't fear death and do embrace it...but not as a reward for a virtuous life (that would be based on works)...but as a reward for coming to grips that as humans they are utterly without virtue and accepting Christ and allowing him to become their virtue.


You might be right, if you define "true" Christians in such a way that 99% of Christians aren't "true."   The reality is that the overwhelming majority of Christians wrestle with doubt and fear at one point or another in their life.  You can play "no true Scotsman" with that if you like, but you might want to consider that you're not going to persuade many people that way.

I would suggest instead, if you want to be an apologist for Christianity, that you start by admitting its flaws, and copping to the many ways in which Christians tend to fall short of the ideals they (we) espouse.
2014-03-16 01:43:27 PM  
1 vote:

iron de havilland: It's just a shame that so many people who call themselves Christians ignore the teachings of Christ.


It's about what I would expect from a fear based religion. Yeah, I've heard all the claims that it's all about "God's Love™" and all that... but having read more than one version of the bible, compared those to the early Greek translations, and even having read some of the 'books' that were cut out of the mainstream bibles (Biblical apocrypha), I've concluded that it is primarily a control through fear of punishment religion. So when people really dive into the depths of that religion, it doesn't surprise me at all that so many of them come out of it a bit warped... or at least the ones that take it seriously/literally.
2014-03-16 01:41:10 PM  
1 vote:

Skunkwolf: TV's Vinnie: If this rumor is true, remember what I said to you Fark Mods. On that glorious day, just call in sick. Don't even bother to try moderating. There's simply going to be no damn way you can hold back the Tsunami of Schadenfreude that's going to slam through Fark like a Praxis Effect.

[i1.ytimg.com image 850x478]


[www.stardestroyer.net image 640x321]

Always bugged me how they produced and distributed energy in the age of fusion and warp reactors. In a box? energoncube.jpg


Always bugged me that the wave would be exactly on the plane that the Excelsior lay, so that it had to ride through the energy rather than simply ascend or descend on its Y axis to get out of the way. Space is 3 dimensional, as seen in Wrath of Khan and the later star trek movies...
I won't even ask why the energy from an explosion like that didn't radiate outwards in all directions...
Anyway fark Phelps!
/minor threadjack
2014-03-16 01:39:44 PM  
1 vote:
I hope this shiatstain dies alone, afraid, and in unimaginable agony while the people he created to be hateful farks like himself ignore him, having excommunicated him already.  I hope he gets to his Heaven and his god says, "I know thee not."  I hope he is cast into eternal torment, as his religion says those who do such things will be.

I think the appropriate response is for the Gay Men's Chorus of Topeka to appear at the funeral and sing hymns.  Ignore the bile and the hatred and the screaming relatives.  Be respectful, be polite, and give your Fark You to Phelps through being better than that.
2014-03-16 01:36:02 PM  
1 vote:
" have never wished death upon anyone, but I have read some obituaries with great satisfaction."

- Mark Twain
2014-03-16 01:34:36 PM  
1 vote:

Tenga: I'll never understand, why do Christians cling to life?


Yes, indeed. Hurry up and join your beloved Jeebus, "Reverend" Phelps.
2014-03-16 01:30:48 PM  
1 vote:

Tenga: I'll never understand, why do Christians cling to life?


The more cynical answer is that Christians fear death as much as anyone else, which wouldn't be the case if we REALLY believed all that stuff about going to Heaven without any doubt.  You can of course consider this evidence that Christianity is a sham and Christians have no more peace or serenity than anyone else.

The more official answer is that Christians still have a job to do on this Earth before we die and not trying to stay alive (unless it's to sacrifice your life in some meaningful way) is dereliction of duty.

Many sects of Christianity teach that suicide is a sin.  Again, the logic given ranges from "dereliction of duty" to "destroying God's gift of life."

As with so many things, there are explanations/justifications that are congruent with Christianity being true and powerful, and there are explanations/justifications that are congruent with Christianity being a load of hooey.
2014-03-16 01:30:13 PM  
1 vote:
At the end of the day, he made the choices he made of his own free will - whether it was a sincerely held belief or attention whoring, he said what he said and he did what he did.

I don't think I'll feel the vengeful satisfaction some of you do, but I will not mourn him, nor feel an excessive amount of pity for his current situation.

He made his bed of hate, and now he lies in a hospital, despised and alone. He has earned the reaction he is getting.
2014-03-16 01:27:21 PM  
1 vote:
i1182.photobucket.com
2014-03-16 01:27:09 PM  
1 vote:
www.thewebsiteofdoom.com


/no RIP for this festering pustule on humanity
//none for Phelps either
2014-03-16 01:23:44 PM  
1 vote:
img.fark.net
2014-03-16 01:10:34 PM  
1 vote:

Tymast: Being excommunicated none of the other family members are allowed to visit him so he is wasting away alone in the hospice.


Good enough. I like karma -- paybacks I don't have to initiate.
2014-03-16 12:52:20 PM  
1 vote:
Kicked out of his own church, and on his death bed with no one saying what he's dying of (old age, etc.).
My money is on HIV.
2014-03-16 12:48:18 PM  
1 vote:

JohnnyC: iron de havilland: Well, it does show a level of sociopathy on your part that you can classify him as non-human.

I'm sure Fred Phelps is immensely comforted by you considering him one of your own.


He is a human being. He's not "one of my own" insofar as his hatemongering goes, but I'm quite happy knowing that I'm a better man than he.

But, he deserves all the rights accorded to all people.

Although you're probably kidding yourself. He probably thinks you're gay and hates you even as he draws his final, undeserved, breath.

He's free to do that, as I'm free to think him a terrible person.

It's just a shame that so many people who call themselves Christians ignore the teachings of Christ.

/Atheist.
2014-03-16 12:44:32 PM  
1 vote:

Kevin72: Tarl3k: MBK: They should host a big gay pride parade on the day of his funeral.

We have a winner...

But how many times can you sing "ding dong the witch is dead"?


All of them, Charlie.
2014-03-16 12:42:16 PM  
1 vote:
ts3.mm.bing.net
Funeral Parade.
2014-03-16 12:40:52 PM  
1 vote:

markie_farkie: [img.fark.net image 850x564]

Rot in hell, Fred..


Came here to say this.
2014-03-16 12:38:10 PM  
1 vote:
You may commence sucking c*cks in Hell, Mr. Bigot McHatepants!
www.chicagoreader.com
2014-03-16 12:37:58 PM  
1 vote:
Best thing I've read on facebook...evar.
2014-03-16 12:37:51 PM  
1 vote:

doyner: While I think this guy's "contributions" to society have been extremely counterproductive, I'm not so sure that the proper response to him lying in hospice is hateful vitriol.  It strikes me as just as petty as what everyone is upset with him about.


That's why I'm going to celebrate by kissing another girl.
2014-03-16 12:36:47 PM  
1 vote:
i.imgur.com
2014-03-16 12:33:49 PM  
1 vote:

hej: Krustofsky: Still undefeated:

How do you figure? Phelps is like five hundred years old and dying a natural death. Never mind that he did more than enough procreating.


A sure sign that there is no god.
2014-03-16 12:32:56 PM  
1 vote:

Lsherm: Maybe this will result in less hate in the world, but I doubt it.  Fred Phelps probably had less hate in his heart than your typical Fark lib.


Yep, he took every opportunity to express his hatred of gays.

Just like you do with liberals.

/It's all silly anyway.
//Judging by who dies, God hates all of us.
2014-03-16 12:28:10 PM  
1 vote:
I'm already drinking beer and eating asparagus...
2014-03-16 12:26:24 PM  
1 vote:

jake_lex: The thing is, too, that if his goal in life was to try to stamp out homosexuality, hhe was a complete and utter failure at it.  If anything, he was one of the best friends the gay rights movement ever had, because he just made it clear that behind any effort to deny gay people their rights is raw bigotry.

And his rhetoric was so horrifying that it forced other anti gay rights activitsts to tone down their rhetoric, thus makeing it that much harder for them to advocate for what had to have been their dream, a re-criminalization of homosexualty. Because it's hard to make that argument without sounding like the Phelps Family, and puts you in the same group as an asshole who pickets funerals of dead soldiers and children.  Of course, that's because what you believe is as noxious and horrifying as what he did, but he denies you the cover of pretending otherwise.

He was so ineffective at getting his message across that the only logical sounding explanation has to be that it was all an elaborate insurance scam: provoke people into attacking you, sue them, collect the settlement check.


So, the Westboro Baptist Church is part of the "Gay Agenda". Were they supported by gay advocacy groups? They sure kept that quiet...

Go, fred. There's a seat for you on the right side of Satan's throne. You'll have a popeship in Hell.
2014-03-16 12:22:27 PM  
1 vote:
I'd like to see this group as a brief blip in human history that is forgotten by all.
2014-03-16 12:21:56 PM  
1 vote:
I hope the devil wears him like a condom while sodomising the gayest demon in Hell.

Daily.

/Never Rest, you worthless pain bringing emotion vampire.
2014-03-16 12:21:50 PM  
1 vote:
Thank God for dead bigots...


Betcha he's going to be in for one hell of a surprise..
2014-03-16 12:17:54 PM  
1 vote:
I call for an army of homos, armed with super-soakers and a month worth of saved up semen. Start hoarding ammo now!
2014-03-16 12:17:50 PM  
1 vote:
That he is alive and my father is dead has bothered me since 2007.
2014-03-16 12:16:44 PM  
1 vote:
I'm pretty sure the whole Phelps family is expecting a cacophonous protest. They're very rich - they'll probably hold it in the middle of one of their massive private properties where no one can step foot without getting sued for thousands.
2014-03-16 12:15:23 PM  
1 vote:
He had a lot to say.
He had a lot of nothing to say.
We'll miss him.

We're gonna miss him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHdlhUfJ5qc
2014-03-16 12:12:49 PM  
1 vote:
He is a shining example of of what hate looks like today in modern America.
2014-03-16 12:08:48 PM  
1 vote:
I say the picket signs should reflect, not hatred, but love of your fellow humans. Why stoop to the same reprehensible level as this man? While it is fun to think about 1000 "GOD HATES FRED" signs adorning his funeral site and the freedom riders revving their harleys so the funeral proceedings cannot be heard, it lets the world know that this man, however disgusting and amoral, was important enough to warrant attendees at his funeral.
2014-03-16 12:07:18 PM  
1 vote:

machoprogrammer: His grave should be a place where gay men can go and have orgies on top of it


It would be great if it was in a state with gay marriage so people could go get gay married at it.
2014-03-16 12:05:02 PM  
1 vote:

Callous: Flappyhead: If Phelps goes to Heaven I'll gladly take Hell.

Can't help but wonder how he would react when he gets there and there are gay people there.  Or would he just think he got sent to hell?


Why would he go to heaven, he preached heresy, hate, and ruined the name of Jesus Christ just by associating his name with it. It's fairly obvious he wasn't Christian none of what he preached was any where close to what Jesus preached. He ran a dangerous cult that poisoned the well it claimed to drink from.
2014-03-16 12:03:11 PM  
1 vote:

nullptr: Did the church oust him because he came out as gay? I mean, we all knew there was a 50/50 chance of him being buried deep in the closet.

/ oh so very deep


Balls deep.

If he has been gay, then he's been in a horrific hell of his own making for decades.
2014-03-16 12:00:40 PM  
1 vote:
i.imgur.com
2014-03-16 11:56:27 AM  
1 vote:

FormlessOne: MooseUpNorth: Tenga: I'll never understand, why do Christians cling to life?

Think about it. The entire Christian faith is centered around convincing themselves there's eternal life after death and how to make it pleasant rather than horrific. It's always been about the fear of dying. Christians cling to life because they're terrified not to.

It's an odd paradox - Christians have been repeatedly assured, through their faith, that leading a good Christian life assures them an eternity of Heaven. You'd think that good Christians would not fear death, but embrace a good death as the rewarding end to a virtuous life.

Kind of makes you wonder just how much faith these folks have in their own religion, honestly.


True Christians don't fear death and do embrace it...but not as a reward for a virtuous life (that would be based on works)...but as a reward for coming to grips that as humans they are utterly without virtue and accepting Christ and allowing him to become their virtue.
2014-03-16 11:56:05 AM  
1 vote:

Lenny_da_Hog: You're looking at it all wrong.

Don't celebrate his death.

Celebrate the fact that he lived *just* long enough to see gay marriage legalized all over the country.



It's probably what's killing him.  Ever notice how the thing you're looking for is always in the last place you look?
2014-03-16 11:55:20 AM  
1 vote:

FlyingBacon: Keep


You reap what you sow.
2014-03-16 11:52:54 AM  
1 vote:
img.fark.net
hej
2014-03-16 11:52:19 AM  
1 vote:
Of course we're not going to protest his funeral, subby. Most people will be glad he's dead.
2014-03-16 11:51:49 AM  
1 vote:

FlyingBacon: Oh yea right. My sarcasm really failed this morning. Thats ok with me.


slog.thestranger.com
2014-03-16 11:51:46 AM  
1 vote:
"Celebrate" his funeral, subby. The word you're looking for is "celebrate."
2014-03-16 11:49:18 AM  
1 vote:
There's a part of me that wants to say "good" and take a good, long beer-fueled piss on his grave for all the misery he spread, but there's another part of me that just thinks the whole thing is just sad all around. I can't imagine being so filled with anger and hate that you end up destroying your own life and the lives of everyone around you. What an absolute waste of a life.
2014-03-16 11:48:53 AM  
1 vote:
i.imgur.com
2014-03-16 11:48:21 AM  
1 vote:
I remember mentally cheering when Falwell bit it. I might throw a party for this one.
2014-03-16 11:48:06 AM  
1 vote:

Millennium: On the one hand, it's good to have people like him to put our commitment to freedom of speech and religion to the test. Even if that's the only value his life provides.

On the other hand, man, what I wouldn't give to be one of the people who has to sort out his stuff post-mortem. What kinds of things do you think would be found?!


img3.wikia.nocookie.net
2014-03-16 11:45:06 AM  
1 vote:

AcademGreen: What if we find out that in his last days he took a young man cabana boy into his heart and converted completely to teh gay in his final days.

The screenplay could become the next Brokeback Mountain... with wrinkly old man balls.

//He could be played by Charlton Heston
//Cabana boy could be Zac Efron


I LOL'd and cringed
2014-03-16 11:43:58 AM  
1 vote:
On the one hand, it's good to have people like him to put our commitment to freedom of speech and religion to the test. Even if that's the only value his life provides.

On the other hand, man, what I wouldn't give to be one of the people who has to sort out his stuff post-mortem. What kinds of things do you think would be found?!
2014-03-16 11:43:15 AM  
1 vote:
Not near enough.
2014-03-16 11:42:05 AM  
1 vote:

SquiggsIN: None of us really needs to read this thread to know what's here, do we?



A lot of conflicted Farkers? Not surprising.
2014-03-16 11:40:50 AM  
1 vote:
Phelps and his scumbag family were only exercising their First Amendment Right when they protested the funerals of soldiers who were killed in action.  It is only fitting that other Americans exercise that same right and protest his funeral.

Also, is this Nathan Phelps a real account?  I mean, his picture is of a troll.  Can we really take the post seriously?
2014-03-16 11:39:54 AM  
1 vote:
If Phelps goes to Heaven I'll gladly take Hell.
2014-03-16 11:39:25 AM  
1 vote:

R.I.Pee Freddie


drawception.com

2014-03-16 11:36:51 AM  
1 vote:
Maybe this will result in less hate in the world, but I doubt it.  Fred Phelps probably had less hate in his heart than your typical Fark lib.
2014-03-16 11:35:15 AM  
1 vote:
How close to death is he? Cause I should start holding my pee.
2014-03-16 11:34:02 AM  
1 vote:

CruJones: I'd prefer him to be terminally ill,and long suffering and the only way he can stay alive is through repeated transfusions from gay donors.


Beef injections through the shipping dock?
2014-03-16 11:33:38 AM  
1 vote:
Still undefeated:
www.macroevolution.net
2014-03-16 11:33:20 AM  
1 vote:
...and?
2014-03-16 11:32:24 AM  
1 vote:

FlyingBacon: Wow. So much hate going on. Keep it classic farkers.


Eye for an eye, furthermore, such as.
2014-03-16 11:31:08 AM  
1 vote:
I'm a little late to the thread. Did he die yet? I hope I didn't miss it!
2014-03-16 11:29:30 AM  
1 vote:

Tenga: bdub77: Tenga: I'll never understand, why do Christians cling to life?

Because they secretly know God doesn't really exist, at least as they perceive it.

Kind of my thinking as well.The same way that many non believers find faith on their deathbed. Many believers lose it.


I don't think either of those are all that common.
2014-03-16 11:24:55 AM  
1 vote:
image.blingee.com
2014-03-16 11:24:45 AM  
1 vote:

symptomoftheuniverse: Meh. Now when Cheney bites it, that will be cause to party.


Cheney can't die.  He isn't really Human.  Haven't you seen Phantasm?

img.fark.net

Cheney isn't from this world.  He's here to conquer it.
2014-03-16 11:24:41 AM  
1 vote:
Being excommunicated none of the other family members are allowed to visit him so he is wasting away alone in the hospice.
2014-03-16 11:24:31 AM  
1 vote:
Praise be to God.

If there is a gay parade at his funeral, I'm heading down from Canada.
2014-03-16 11:20:47 AM  
1 vote:

AcademGreen: Tenga: I'll never understand, why do Christians cling to life?

Pope Pius V on his death bed, repeating: "O Lord, increase my sufferings and my patience!"

Some Christians like the suffering.  It makes them feel like Jesus.


Easy enough to refuse treatment.
2014-03-16 11:19:35 AM  
1 vote:
fc01.deviantart.net
2014-03-16 11:19:18 AM  
1 vote:
img3.wikia.nocookie.net

Go f*ck yourself. I hope Hell exists so you can spend an eternity there.
2014-03-16 11:18:47 AM  
1 vote:
What if the WBC picketed his funeral?
2014-03-16 11:18:43 AM  
1 vote:
Protest? Asshole isn't worth the effort.
2014-03-16 11:16:26 AM  
1 vote:
What if we find out that in his last days he took a young man cabana boy into his heart and converted completely to teh gay in his final days.

The screenplay could become the next Brokeback Mountain... with wrinkly old man balls.

//He could be played by Charlton Heston
//Cabana boy could be Zac Efron
2014-03-16 11:16:05 AM  
1 vote:
Would be kinda nice if he stayed 'near death' a little longer.  You know, with some agonizing pain thrown in for double jeopardy bonus points.
2014-03-16 11:13:21 AM  
1 vote:
Full bladders, MARCH!
2014-03-16 11:12:40 AM  
1 vote:

markie_farkie: [img.fark.net image 850x564]

Rot in hell, Fred..


Done in one.


/I want to be a better person than Phelps, but this was perfect.
2014-03-16 11:12:26 AM  
1 vote:
His grave should be a place where gay men can go and have orgies on top of it
2014-03-16 11:12:02 AM  
1 vote:

Mad Tea Party: Serious Black: I'd love to know what Fred did to get excommunicated from Westboro.

[i23.photobucket.com image 631x128]


img.fark.net
He obviously did Larry Craig
2014-03-16 11:11:26 AM  
1 vote:

Serious Black: I'd love to know what Fred did to get excommunicated from Westboro.


He came out.
2014-03-16 11:10:54 AM  
1 vote:

AMonkey'sUncle: I've quoted her before - Bette Davis upon hearing Joan Crawford had died: I was taught to always say good about someone. Joan Crawford has died. Good!

2014-03-16 11:08:50 AM  
1 vote:
www.quickmeme.com
2014-03-16 11:08:17 AM  
1 vote:

Serious Black: I'd love to know what Fred did to get excommunicated from Westboro.


thebacklot.mtvnimages.com
2014-03-16 11:07:01 AM  
1 vote:
www.hogdb.com
2014-03-16 11:06:40 AM  
1 vote:
Is his grave going to be in the George Pullman style?

/i wish i believed in justice in an afterlife, you revolting piece of excrement from a syphilitic rat
2014-03-16 11:06:24 AM  
1 vote:

jbc: nekom: markie_farkie: nekom: His funeral is going to look like burning man

Actually the best funeral would have ZERO attendees, with the family choosing to have his corpse tossed in an unmarked ditch somewhere.

Though I've always held that the best thing is to never feed the trolls, i.e. ignore those asshats, it would seem pretty fitting and proper to me for an impromptu pride parade to break out at his funeral.  If for no other reason than the lulz that could be generated.  He's beyond "doesn't deserve any respect whatsoever" and well into the "deserves contempt, malice and shame" column.

I'd normally disagree out of respect to the family, but since they are equally reprehensible excuses for mammals, I think some "God Hates Bigots" pickets are in order here.


I wouldn't mind seeing that happen while he's still alive.  Make him lie on his deathbed while listening to angry people telling him that he's going to Hell.
2014-03-16 11:05:35 AM  
1 vote:

nekom: His funeral is going to look like burning man



We can only hope.

I predict their gutless clan of frightened lawyers will make sure it's completely hidden away and inaccessible.
 
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