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gja
2014-03-16 09:56:23 PM  

Spanky McStupid: [theconnection.lucianne.com image 250x270]

Too bad Freddy Boy didn't understand Christianity.


He's about to get a crash course.
 
2014-03-16 09:59:39 PM  

Millennium: Ghastly: Millennium: Ghastly: Pascal's wager is possibly the stupidest reason to believe in a religion. It would be one thing if there was only one religion in the world but there are hundreds. What if there is a god, but you're devoutly worshipping the wrong one and just pissing him off more and more each time you go to church.

It's worth noting that Pascal formulated his wager in an intellectual context where there really was only one religion under consideration (with a few different sects, perhaps, but they generally acknowledged one another as worshipping the same God). Nowadays the Tumblr crowd would have a field day with that, but such was the time and place he lived.

That is true, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Taoists, and Hindus were not invented until 1663.

Why do you think I said the Tumblr crowd would have a field day with it? Or, for that matter, why I said there was only one religion "under consideration" in the intellectual context in which Pascal made his wager? The gamble is a bad one, but the people talking about the only context in which it would make sense are more right than I think most of them suspect: that's exactly the context in which Pascal made it.


That's why I point it out. Pascal was an educated man, he would have known those other religions existed yet dismissed them out of hand. He would have had to know his own wager was bullshiat.
 
2014-03-16 10:15:23 PM  

I want to picket his funeral with a sign saying

GOD LOVES EVERYBODY, EVEN FRED PHELPS

 
2014-03-16 10:24:19 PM  

WeenerGord: Good riddance to bad rubbish. This is what the scumbag did to his own sons...Warning, it may make you sick to read it. Why didn't this scumbag go to jail for what he did!

Addicted to Hate: The Fred Phelps Story
Chapter Two: Daddy's Hands
Mark Phelps feels nauseated whenever he remembers that night. He was hit over 60 times and his brother, Nate, over 200 with a mattock handle. Nate went into shock. Mark didn't. A boy who became a compulsive counter to handle the stress, Mark counted every stroke. His and Nate's. While their father screamed obscenities and his brother screamed in pain. Every 20 strokes, their mother wiped their faces off in the tub. Nate passed out anyway. That was Christmas Day.
Though he believes he should be the next governor of Kansas, Pastor Phelps has never believed in Christmas. A mattock is a pick-hoe using a wooden handle heavier than a bat. Fred swung it with both hands like a ballplayer and with all his might. "The first blow stunned your whole body," says Mark. "By the third blow, your backside was so tender, even the lightest strike was agonizing, but he'd still hit you like he wanted to put it over the fence. By 20, though, you'd have grown numb with pain. That was when my father would quit and start on my brother. Later, when the feeling had returned and it hurt worse than before, he'd do it again. "After 40 strokes, I was weak and nauseous and very pale. My body hurt terribly. Then it was Nate's turn. He got 40 each time. "I staggered to the bathtub where my mom was wetting a towel to swab my face. Behind me, I could hear the mattock and my brother was choking and moaning. He was crying and he wouldn't stop." The voice in the phone halts. After an awkward moment, clearing of throats, it continues: "Then I heard my father shouting my name. My mom was right there, but she wouldn't help me. It hurt so badly during the third beating that I kept wanting to drop so he would hit me in the head. I was hoping I'd be knocked out, or killed...a ...


Thank you.  I was starting to feel bad for "Old man, alone, so stupid and misguided, finally saw the light..."  No.  He doesn't get that from me and shouldn't from anyone else.  Evil.
 
2014-03-16 10:59:54 PM  
woah woah woah woah. hold up. Fred Phelps was excommunicated? from his own cult? please someone explain.

i did not read the thread.
 
2014-03-16 11:02:28 PM  
How can you be excommunicated from you own church? Wouldn't that be like the Mormons excommunicating Joseph Smith or something?

I hope it was the most horrible thing that ever happens to him, except when he gets to wherever he's going, and it's full of the ghosts of dead gays.
 
2014-03-16 11:04:15 PM  
mudmin:
Well the way I always think about it...if I'm wrong, I have nothing to lose by living a good life, trying to treat people right and follow the principles of the Bible. If you're wrong, you have everything to lose. One of us will be wrong and we won't know for sure until it's all sorted out in the end.

I can not prove there isn't a god, but I know for certain, without a doubt, that the bible is utter bullshiat. It's no closer to being the words of a divine being than Harry Potter. And anyone who has ever read it and study even a brief history of it can figure that out, assuming their want of heaven isn't greater then their common sense.

Just because we want there to be a heaven, a god, and a divine plan so everything happens for a reason doesn't mean it real. As the Rolling Stones said "You don't always get what you want."
 
2014-03-16 11:08:17 PM  
If the entirety of the WBC were on MH370 instead of the regular passengers would anyone even care what happened to the plane?

Thank you for tuning in to the news.
Some plane is lost.
And now your local forecast.
 
2014-03-16 11:18:55 PM  
Well, good riddance.

Now if the WBC could just end up with a combination of the Move bombing and Branch Davidian siege..
 
2014-03-16 11:34:06 PM  
look! they may hate america, but they still put out the trash bins!

i feel bad for those who live near such madness

http://goo.gl/maps/KlIOA
 
2014-03-16 11:38:32 PM  

Kali-Yuga: mudmin:

Well the way I always think about it...if I'm wrong, I have nothing to lose by living a good life, trying to treat people right and follow the principles of the Bible. If you're wrong, you have everything to lose. One of us will be wrong and we won't know for sure until it's all sorted out in the end.

Pascal's Wager? Really you can't even come up with a better way to rationalize your irrational beliefs than that?

What if you've chosen the wrong god out of the tens of thousands man has invented? What if you've chosen the wrong sect of christianity out of the estimated 30,000 or more that exist?  The odds of you choosing or being indoctrinated into the right sect of the right religion are exceedingly slim.

And as long as we're just making up versions of the afterlife since none have any credible evidence or proof, how about this one?

The bible serves as a test of credulity and when you die and meet god, if you were gullible enough to believe the contents of a book full of errors, atrocities, misogyny, absurdities and contradictions you get punished.
While the people who used their 'god given' gifts of intelligence and reason to see it was all obvious bullshiat and were decent people without having to be threatened by an invisible man in the sky.


The thing I love about Pascal's wager is how much of a douchebag drama queen god must be to be so up tight about every single human dedicating every moment of their life to him/her/it/[style of pasta].  Seriously he is like a teenage girl.  "OMG you totally ignored me I'm deleting you from my friends on Facebook you dumb slut."
 
2014-03-16 11:52:02 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-17 12:10:23 AM  
It's not like I want the man dead. But my giveadamnometer is reading negative here.
 
2014-03-17 12:14:23 AM  
list fails without

upload.wikimedia.org

/harrumph!
 
2014-03-17 12:17:05 AM  
aww crap, wrong thread :/
 
2014-03-17 12:21:33 AM  
Yeah; I'm with the crowd that thinks that if there were an omniscient, omnipresent God, I don't think he'd be so petty as to damn me for all eternity for the trivial reason that I didn't think he existed.  I mean, I turn my blinkers on when I change lanes, hold the elevator doors open for strangers and don't misrepresent things he says.  He'd have to have some major insecurities to jam me into a dumbwaiter and send me straight to Arizona just for that.

In any case, I hope Phelps somehow comes out of it through some heaven-sent partial cure so he can live long enough to see himself and his ilk drop out of the spotlight and be relegated to giving hummers to homeless gay vets for money to buy his daily fix of Robitussin.
 
2014-03-17 12:52:48 AM  

grumpfuff: mudmin: Jesus is a pretty cool guy and I wouldn't let some Christians ruin that for you.


Ghandi liked to fark little girls. I do not give a good god damn what that curry eating son of a low cast whore says on any subject .
 
2014-03-17 01:11:15 AM  

FlyingBacon: I dont hate anyone. I just eat more popcorn and let everyone else do the hating.


Bully for you.
 
2014-03-17 01:25:30 AM  
When it comes down to it, while we all make mistakes, there are few people truly worthy of eternal damnation. Phelps is one of those people. The Bible may teach forgiveness, but even for the Son of God forgiving someone who dedicated his life purely to creating misery for all during their most vulnerable moments, all while doing it in His name...

If it never set in before, I really hope the fear of what is coming next is eating him up inside.
 
2014-03-17 01:32:43 AM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: grumpfuff: mudmin: Jesus is a pretty cool guy and I wouldn't let some Christians ruin that for you.

Ghandi liked to fark little girls. I do not give a good god damn what that curry eating son of a low cast whore says on any subject .


What's wrong with curry?
 
2014-03-17 01:37:21 AM  

Kali-Yuga: mudmin:

Well the way I always think about it...if I'm wrong, I have nothing to lose by living a good life, trying to treat people right and follow the principles of the Bible. If you're wrong, you have everything to lose. One of us will be wrong and we won't know for sure until it's all sorted out in the end.

Pascal's Wager? Really you can't even come up with a better way to rationalize your irrational beliefs than that?

What if you've chosen the wrong god out of the tens of thousands man has invented? What if you've chosen the wrong sect of christianity out of the estimated 30,000 or more that exist?  The odds of you choosing or being indoctrinated into the right sect of the right religion are exceedingly slim.

And as long as we're just making up versions of the afterlife since none have any credible evidence or proof, how about this one?

The bible serves as a test of credulity and when you die and meet god, if you were gullible enough to believe the contents of a book full of errors, atrocities, misogyny, absurdities and contradictions you get punished.
While the people who used their 'god given' gifts of intelligence and reason to see it was all obvious bullshiat and were decent people without having to be threatened by an invisible man in the sky.

Out of those ~33,800 variants of Christianity alone, roughly ½ of them believe themselves to be the One and Only True Christianity, and that all others are Satanically deceived at best, or are outright heretics and/or apostates (depending on the relationship between the two variants in question). Heretics and apostates would have it far worse in the afterlife of most such religions than mere infidels such as skeptics and pagans and atheists would. If any of those variants of Christianity is true, you'd be better off being an atheist than you would be picking the wrong variant out of ~33,800.
 
2014-03-17 02:03:12 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: hope this shiatstain dies alone, afraid, and in unimaginable agony while the people he created to be hateful farks like himself ignore him, having excommunicated him already.  I hope he gets to his Heaven and his god says, "I know thee not."  I hope he is cast into eternal torment, as his religion says those who do such things will be.


He won't. He'll go into oblivion like the rest of us, and with his last breath, no matter how painful it might be, he will exhale it secure in the belief that he lived his life as a righteous man, and will shortly be entering the Kingdom of Heaven. Sorry.
 
2014-03-17 02:14:51 AM  

hardinparamedic: stonelotus: lol, this thread reminds me of when people say, "I'm not racist, but...".

[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 225x225]

Oh, do go on.


well now you're officially just stalking me.  creepy.
 
2014-03-17 02:58:41 AM  

iron de havilland: soporific: As a Christian, I agree with you. I'm really struggling to reconcile my dislike for the WBC's actions with the idea that every person, even people like Phelps, deserve dignity. He is the person we're talking about when we say "I disagree with what you say but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it."

He's also the person Jesus was talking about when He said:
"Love your neighbor as yourself."
"Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you."
"Turn the other cheek."
"Don't be a self-righteous dickbag." (I'm probably paraphrasing that last one, but who knows, I only know the various English translations

The point is, you are right that too many people who call themselves Christians have no idea, or don't care, what Jesus taught. Thank you for reminding me that it doesn't matter what kind of man Phelps was and is, it matters what kind of man I choose to be in response to him. I really appreciated your post.

eyemarten: Agreed.

Nice to see some humanity in here. Hate can turn the best of us astray.

Thanks for your kind words. It's all too easy to demonise people, and to say that they are somehow inhuman and different to the rest of us.

Like I say, I'm an atheist. But I do try to keep to the philosophy of treating others as I'd like to be treated, which certainly seems to be a central message of the bible as I was taught it as a child.

I just don't see the need for the God stuff, personally.

JohnnyC: iron de havilland: It's just a shame that so many people who call themselves Christians ignore the teachings of Christ.

It's about what I would expect from a fear based religion. Yeah, I've heard all the claims that it's all about "God's Love™" and all that... but having read more than one version of the bible, compared those to the early Greek translations, and even having read some of the 'books' that were cut out of the mainstream bibles (Biblical apocrypha), I've concluded that it is primarily a control through fear of punishment religion. So when people really dive into the depths of that religion, it doesn't surprise me at all that so many of them come out of it a bit warped... or at least the ones that take it seriously/literally.


You should study some history, and learn about the good stuff that religion has done over the years. People have certainly used it for evil, but take a look at the stained glass windows of York Minster. The art of Caravaggio, Dürer or Michelangelo. Islamic/Arabic science.

And, plenty churches also had a vested interest in education; teaching their flock to read so they could be closer to God.

There are far too many fundamentalist tendencies about these days, but to suggest that nothing good has ever come from religion is disingenuous.


The odd thing is, you are both correct.
 
2014-03-17 03:42:44 AM  
Good. Evil man.
 
2014-03-17 04:43:15 AM  

Rwa2play: To paraphrase a time-honored quote:  I've never wished a person dead, but have read their obituaries with great pleasure.

MBK: They should host a big gay pride parade on the day of his funeral.

That, with Lady Gaga as Grand Marshall.


NO.  George "Oh MY" Takei.

//EPIC
 
2014-03-17 05:13:18 AM  

FlyingBacon: I dont hate anyone. I just eat more popcorn and let everyone else do the hating.


who asked?
 
2014-03-17 06:03:30 AM  

Ghastly: Pascal's wager is possibly the stupidest reason to believe in a religion. It would be one thing if there was only one religion in the world but there are hundreds. What if there is a god, but you're devoutly worshipping the wrong one and just pissing him off more and more each time you go to church.


I'm sorry. I just thought everyone would naturally understand the whole wager thing.  I believe in Christ for many reasons (Which I'm not going to get into at the moment). I've always looked at the wager as being anyone NOT believing in Christ as making the real bet.  I believed in Christ long before the wager concept.  To be honest, I don't really even think the wager is about what you believe as much as how you live.  I think there are people who truly believe in God but think "eh, not sure if I want to serve him." Those are the people I look at who are really making the gamble.

Because I already believe in Christ, there really is no "gamble" for me. I have no downside. It's everyone else who would theoretically be making this gamble.  (if you want to get all pascal-ly).
 
2014-03-17 06:09:56 AM  

tjsands1118: mudmin:
Well the way I always think about it...if I'm wrong, I have nothing to lose by living a good life, trying to treat people right and follow the principles of the Bible. If you're wrong, you have everything to lose. One of us will be wrong and we won't know for sure until it's all sorted out in the end.

I can not prove there isn't a god, but I know for certain, without a doubt, that the bible is utter bullshiat. It's no closer to being the words of a divine being than Harry Potter. And anyone who has ever read it and study even a brief history of it can figure that out, assuming their want of heaven isn't greater then their common sense.

Just because we want there to be a heaven, a god, and a divine plan so everything happens for a reason doesn't mean it real. As the Rolling Stones said "You don't always get what you want."


I truly think it takes more faith (or stupidity or ignorance) to believe there isn't an intelligent creator.  I'm not trying to mock people, but no one's ever been able to explain this to me.

I get people not believing in a 6 day creation. That passage in Genesis was clearly poetry and not meant to be a scientific account.  BUT everyone keeps talking about the big bang and primordial soup and says e stuff like well these gasses exploded.  I always ask where did the gasses come from?  If they have an answer...well, where did that come from?

Someone or something had to create that.

I'm not talking about evolution or 6 day creation.  I'm talking about the fact that something doesn't come from nothing.
 
2014-03-17 06:19:12 AM  
I think the best--and hardest--thing to do in this situation is to take the high road. Non-Christians should do nothing but give well wishes. Christians should pray for the surviving family members. I only recommend that because we shouldn't sink to their level, we should practice what we preach (if you're religious, at least), and because taking the high road would REALLY piss them off and make them feel guilty.

But the best thing to do is never the easiest thing to do.
 
2014-03-17 06:59:17 AM  

"Thou Shalt Not Judge"


But in this dick's case I'm wiling to make an exception.

 
2014-03-17 07:23:13 AM  

TerminalEchoes: I think the best--and hardest--thing to do in this situation is to take the high road. Non-Christians should do nothing but give well wishes. Christians should pray for the surviving family members. I only recommend that because we shouldn't sink to their level, we should practice what we preach (if you're religious, at least), and because taking the high road would REALLY piss them off and make them feel guilty.

But the best thing to do is never the easiest thing to do.


I totally agree. The reason why there is this "battle" is because both sides can be douches.

If anyone has an honest question about Christianity, then feel free to AMA. I'm sorry that so many other Christians have come onto this site and into the world just to stir crap up.  I only got into the "christian" part of this discussion because someone asked "I wonder how Christians can believe...."  If you don't agree with me, I wish you well and happy farking.
 
2014-03-17 09:46:41 AM  
I would not condone genuine Christ-y forgiveness and paying kind respects to the family. They're such twisted assholes they'd take that as support for the cartoonishly vile hatred they've inherited.

I'd much rather wave in their face the fact that Freddie Fab's real legacy is a social re-evaluation that turned completely against his ideal. I don't think that really displeases WBC, since the typical zealot's reaction is "all of society is corrupt and we are the few righteous raghrarrgbl" and they love to feel that special, but who cares. Fark him for all he's worth and leave him used in a ditch once we've all moved on, he's accidentally served a better purpose and there's no reason to spoil that.
 
2014-03-17 09:52:39 AM  

indylaw: I want to picket his funeral with a sign saying

GOD LOVES EVERYBODY, EVEN FRED PHELPS


I don't.  Because that's just as made up as what Phelps was saying, though it makes more people feel better.
 
2014-03-17 09:55:32 AM  

Callous: I would like to see a group with rainbow signs expressing condolences for their loss crash the funeral. Show the ones that aren't so steeped in the hate that there is more in life than who God hates the most this week.

Might cause or accelerate the implosion of that "church".

Don't give them something to use as propaganda to maintain a grip on the younger members. Gay people say their campaign for equality is all about the love. Be the better human beings and show them the love they preach doesn't exist.

Do something that will open their eyes and not give them a reason to close their minds and harden their hearts.


AWESOME troll attempt, dude.

For JUST a MOMENT you almost had me believe that ANYONE in the WBC would have ANY idea about what compassion, love, or charity actually is.

They deserve none of that because they constantly, purposely, and deliberately CHOSE not to offer ANY of those things to all of the people whose funerals they violated, not to mention all of the other completely innocent mourners.

I'm liking the compromise some people have suggested:  instead of partying over his death or making the bizarre performance art of offering the WBC condolences, why not donate $$$ and time to causes that Phelps HATES.  That way his legacy is tarnished, and we can send him to hell while ALSO helping people.
 
2014-03-17 10:20:45 AM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: grumpfuff: mudmin: Jesus is a pretty cool guy and I wouldn't let some Christians ruin that for you.

Ghandi liked to fark little girls. I do not give a good god damn what that curry eating son of a low cast whore says on any subject .


Would you rather me find someone else who expressed the exact same sentiment?
 
2014-03-17 10:33:26 AM  

Mambo Bananapatch: Benevolent Misanthrope: hope this shiatstain dies alone, afraid, and in unimaginable agony while the people he created to be hateful farks like himself ignore him, having excommunicated him already.  I hope he gets to his Heaven and his god says, "I know thee not."  I hope he is cast into eternal torment, as his religion says those who do such things will be.

He won't. He'll go into oblivion like the rest of us, and with his last breath, no matter how painful it might be, he will exhale it secure in the belief that he lived his life as a righteous man, and will shortly be entering the Kingdom of Heaven. Sorry.


I know.  But a girl can dream.
 
2014-03-17 10:51:15 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-17 11:19:11 AM  

Pennsylvania Dutch Oven: [img.fark.net image 200x198]


If you want to know what the Bible says, God hates....
16There are six things the Lord hates,
    seven that are detestable to him:
17        haughty eyes,
        a lying tongue,
        hands that shed innocent blood,
18        a heart that devises wicked schemes,
        feet that are quick to rush into evil,
19        a false witness who pours out lies
        and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.

The book of Proverbs is poetic, though and is meant to be more generalities than a systematic theology.
 
2014-03-17 11:21:38 AM  

ciberido: MayoSlather: He's about to see how god feels about bigots...or how imaginary people feel about nothing.

That for me is the biggest drawback to being an atheist (or to be more precise, someone who doesn't believe in life after death): if you're right, you'll never find out.


I think the drawback is worse for the theist/afterlife-believer: if you're wrong, you'll never find out! If I'm right, I don't need to find out; if I'm wrong, well I'll find out and can then learn from my mistake...

/I just hope you don't need a reservation..

www.american-buddha.com
 
2014-03-17 12:17:53 PM  

spongeboob: FlyingBacon: Wow. So much hate going on. Keep it classic farkers.

Reap what you sow, don't think Farkers are going to be hating when the Dali Lama dies


Bet you some do.  Not nearly as many, but some will.  There are plenty of Farkers who are very vocal about hating ALL religions.

I've seen threads where a few Farkers were hating all over Mother Theresa.  Nobody gets a pass here.
 
2014-03-17 12:22:28 PM  

Raspil: FlyingBacon: I dont hate anyone. I just eat more popcorn and let everyone else do the hating.

who asked?


We all did, yourself included, by being in this thread.
 
2014-03-17 12:41:28 PM  
His sociopathic followers would lilkely consider protests at his funeral to be a testament to his life's work.

However, skywriting something creative, positive, and/or funny about the gay community during the burial would be money well spent.

I'm thinking a rainbow, or the unisex symbol.  I'm sure there is something funny you could skywrite as well without being as particulary cruel as Phelps.
 
2014-03-17 12:41:39 PM  

C18H27NO3: If the entirety of the WBC were on MH370 instead of the regular passengers would anyone even care what happened to the plane?

Thank you for tuning in to the news.
Some plane is lost.
And now your local forecast.


Sure they would. Planes are expensive.
 
2014-03-17 01:23:11 PM  

mudmin: Pennsylvania Dutch Oven: [img.fark.net image 200x198]

If you want to know what the Bible says, God hates....
16There are six things the Lord hates,
    seven that are detestable to him:
17        haughty eyes,
        a lying tongue,
        hands that shed innocent blood,
18        a heart that devises wicked schemes,
        feet that are quick to rush into evil,
19        a false witness who pours out lies
        and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.

The book of Proverbs is poetic, though and is meant to be more generalities than a systematic theology.


You can identify up to 95% of the RW in this country based on that passage.

100 % of them will reply "Yes, but since I'm serving the lord, I can do all that and be forgiven."

That same 100% hope it never comes to pass (think the Jews at the end of "The Ten Commandments" as Moses came down from the top of Mt. Sinai).
 
2014-03-17 01:36:39 PM  

Rwa2play: mudmin: Pennsylvania Dutch Oven: [img.fark.net image 200x198]

If you want to know what the Bible says, God hates....
16There are six things the Lord hates,
    seven that are detestable to him:
17        haughty eyes,
        a lying tongue,
        hands that shed innocent blood,
18        a heart that devises wicked schemes,
        feet that are quick to rush into evil,
19        a false witness who pours out lies
        and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.

The book of Proverbs is poetic, though and is meant to be more generalities than a systematic theology.

You can identify up to 95% of the RW human beings in this country world based on that passage.


FTFY
 
2014-03-17 01:49:59 PM  

Lee Jackson Beauregard: [imageshack.com image 250x350]


Heh. 4:20
 
2014-03-17 02:30:21 PM  

Chariset: Isn't it cute how his wonderful, loving family-slash-church have decided they can do without him? If he's dying now and he was kicked out back in August, they could have given him the boot just as his health started taking a turn for the worse. Who needs that expensive liability, right?


If they had merely kicked him out, the other members of the family (such as the author of the facebook link) would be able to visit him.  Apparently they are still retaining tight control over him.
 
2014-03-17 02:32:17 PM  

MFAWG: Kill 'em with kindness. Everybody send flowers.


Is there a service that will send rainbow-colored flowers?

(I see rainbow-dyed flowers in local supermarkets from time to time, but not as a regular thing.)
 
2014-03-17 02:46:59 PM  

DuoX: That, and if he's been excommunicated and divested of all of his things/holdings in his "church"...it makes for an easy probate after he's gone. Knowing these people, and their talent for abusing the law...this is probably nothing more than a legal ploy.


I vote for this explanation.  Occam's Razor.
 
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