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(Denver Channel)   Sappy: Mother rallies community to raise funds for her dying six-year-old son so he can take trip to Disneyland. Asinine: It was all a scam. Sick-Fark: Mother had son convinced he really had cancer and would be dead within a year   (thedenverchannel.com) divider line 69
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2014-03-16 12:38:55 PM

WelldeadLink: WelldeadLink: AlanSmithee: Sorry to threadjack, but I wanted to announce that I'm sponsoring WelldeadLink for TotalFark before my mind goes.
Thank me for my generosity.

Gee, thanks, glad that you remembered!

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TF is like herpes.
 
2014-03-16 12:56:44 PM
Put the biatch on a street corner. Tell her to work it off.
 
2014-03-16 01:14:03 PM

stuffy: Put the biatch on a street corner. Tell her to work it off.


She won't keep up with your mom.  You might as well just tell her to go on welfare.
 
2014-03-16 01:46:56 PM

notatrollorami: PreMortem: Pfft. I blame the suckers who gave this person the money in the first place. There's a sucker born every minute as they say.

This is no different than a charity showing starving children in Africa on tv while they use 90% of the donations on their salaries.

Bottom line is, you give to a charity to make yourself feel better, not the kid with cancer.

Troll or biggest cocksucker on the planet; you decide America!


Looks to me like a social cancer that may needs to remove themselves, or at least the tumor from their head.  Just to be sure, the whole head.  Who wants to take up the donations?
 
2014-03-16 02:04:28 PM

lack of warmth: notatrollorami: PreMortem: Pfft. I blame the suckers who gave this person the money in the first place. There's a sucker born every minute as they say.

This is no different than a charity showing starving children in Africa on tv while they use 90% of the donations on their salaries.

Bottom line is, you give to a charity to make yourself feel better, not the kid with cancer.

Troll or biggest cocksucker on the planet; you decide America!

Looks to me like a social cancer that may needs to remove themselves, or at least the tumor from their head.  Just to be sure, the whole head.  Who wants to take up the donations?


Oh, I will. I'll make sure 100% goes to the cause.
 
2014-03-16 02:29:51 PM

Ruiizu: Surprisingly I've seen something like this firsthand. I had this roommate who brought his wife to stay with him for a month or two during the summer (he was an engineer) and she was a real biatch. Well, we looked her up online and she had a crowdfund thing going on where she's talking about how her husband has left her and is abusing her, and that she has cancer (facts we verified were not true). She raised thousands of dollars from people fooled on the internet. Best part? Her husband is a rich engineer, so she wasn't exactly lacking in money.


Sociopathy is a terrible thing to witness first hand.

Munchausen-by-Proxy, as in this case, is an illness, so I don't think she should be dragged out and shot... but she sure as hell should be forced to accept treatment, and shouldn't have unsupervised access to children.
 
2014-03-16 02:31:20 PM

99.998er: The 50 worst charities in America devote less than 4% of donations raised to direct cash aid. Some charities gave even less. Over a decade, one diabetes charity raised nearly $14 million and gave about $10,000 to patients. Six spent no cash at all on their cause, but of course that is legal.


How many billions of dollars have been poured into major charities like Komen, etc and yet we aren't even close to curing any disease. How is it we cures polio in the 1950's yet despite advances in science and increased finding we haven't cured a goddamn thing?
 
2014-03-16 02:47:55 PM

AlanSmithee: Sorry to threadjack, but I'm sorry to announce I've just been diagnosed with Alzheimers. Please sponsor me for TotalFark before my mind goes.
Thank you for your generosity.


Done.

My sympathies.


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2014-03-16 02:51:47 PM

No Such Agency: Ruiizu: Surprisingly I've seen something like this firsthand. I had this roommate who brought his wife to stay with him for a month or two during the summer (he was an engineer) and she was a real biatch. Well, we looked her up online and she had a crowdfund thing going on where she's talking about how her husband has left her and is abusing her, and that she has cancer (facts we verified were not true). She raised thousands of dollars from people fooled on the internet. Best part? Her husband is a rich engineer, so she wasn't exactly lacking in money.

Sociopathy is a terrible thing to witness first hand.

Munchausen-by-Proxy, as in this case, is an illness, so I don't think she should be dragged out and shot... but she sure as hell should be forced to accept treatment, and shouldn't have unsupervised access to children.


We were just glad when she left. She was stealing our shiat and running up the electric. She would also beat her daughter pretty roughly too. We threw her husband out after she was gone.

They were both really messed up people. In an arranged marriage too.

To her sole credit, she did beat breast cancer a year prior to us meeting her, but the things she did can't be excused just for that alone.

PS: Publicly available records showed that she had been taken to court by her husband for domestic violence, opposite of her crowd fund story.
 
2014-03-16 03:24:20 PM
The sad part of this is, I saw it on an episode of Law & Order: SVU. Woman accuses man of molesting her granddaughter, who has leukemia. Except the leukemia doesn't exist--grandmother was just scamming people out of money and giving the kid mercury (I think) to simulate the symptoms of leukemia. Munchausen's by proxy was suspected as the root cause, but the old lady went to prison anyway.

At the end of the episode, though, the little girl was doing a lot better. And hopefully that'll be the case with the child in this particular instance.

/Scummier: molestation accusation? Faked
 
2014-03-16 04:32:14 PM

Mark Ratner: Sounds like she has a disorder similar to 'munchausen by proxy'.


That was my armchair psychiatrist diagnosis.
 
2014-03-16 04:41:00 PM

notatrollorami: Troll or biggest cocksucker on the planet; you decide America!


I'm going with the one sane man in this thread.

Yes, there are a few genuinely charitable organizations out there.   However, even in the best cases, there are people who are skimming off the top.   And in the worst cases, you have out-and-out fraudsters (EG Pat Robertson) who use charitable contributions to build their personal fortunes.   The trend seems to be more towards the latter than the former.

Giving to charity is a low-effort way to appease one's conscience.   It is more effective than prayer, but far less effective than actually going out and doing volunteer work.
 
2014-03-16 04:44:01 PM

clyph: Mark Ratner: Sounds like she has a disorder similar to 'munchausen by proxy'.

That was my armchair psychiatrist diagnosis.


That is why these things aren't decided by internet forums.  Seriously, Munchausen by proxy is a valid reason to prosecute people for child abuse.  There was a case in Houston that resulted in a guilty verdict just a couple of years ago.
 
2014-03-16 05:09:48 PM
Would enlisting the child in her scheme to defraud have been better or worse parenting than convincing him he has cancer?  I'm of two minds, but let me advance the argument in favor of telling the boy he had cancer:

1.  The kid gets to beat cancer without the horror of actual cancer.  A number of survivors that I've known have reported that the experience of having been so ill adds a certain existential savor to their lives.  Likewise, it seems fairly common for survivors to be humbled utterly (but in a good way) by the outpouring of love and support that they've received.  Hopefully the kid, despite being just 6, has gained some of this perspective.

2.  It's utterly unforgivable for a parent to cause his or her child to dirty his (the child's) own hands with certain crimes.  Even with criminal liability presumably off the table here, teaching the kid to pull a cancer con could be awful for the child's moral development.  And if the child nonetheless developed normal scruples, it's even worse.  The kid would spend the rest of his life thinking "What have I done?!"  Am I the only one who sees Lee Malvo as, primarily, a figure to be pitied?

Obviously the best option would have been simply to not pull this scam.  But it seems like it's a close call as to what the second best option was.
 
2014-03-16 05:22:27 PM
Did the kid have tumorsyphilisitisosis?
 
2014-03-16 05:33:16 PM
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"Awwwwwwwwwww, little girl, you're gonna grow up to be big and strong. Oh whoops, no you're not!"
 
2014-03-16 05:34:27 PM

99.998er: The 50 worst charities in America devote less than 4% of donations raised to direct cash aid. Some charities gave even less. Over a decade, one diabetes charity raised nearly $14 million and gave about $10,000 to patients. Six spent no cash at all on their cause, but of course that is legal.
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Yeah but as soon as scientists build a machine that turns awareness into cures for cancer who'll be laughing then?
 
2014-03-17 02:48:12 AM
All it takes is one lie to make otherwise impossible things seemingly true, at least for as long as you can keep up the lie.  Tell a lie that can never be proven false, and you have yourself a money maker or at the very least the you-can't-prove-it-isn't-plausible deniability of an unprovable assertion.  What does that remind me of?
 
2014-03-17 09:49:51 AM
Hey, say what you will about Walter White.... at least he really did have the cancer.
 
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