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(BBC-US)   Good news: your house is on land the church owned 500 years ago. Now pay up   (bbc.com) divider line 14
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2014-03-15 01:41:58 PM  
8 votes:
Getting together with your neighbours and hiring an arsonist to take care of the crumbling churches would be a cheaper option.
2014-03-15 01:34:57 PM  
4 votes:

Makh: Does nobody read the terms and conditions when they agree to these things?


Does nobody RTFA?
2014-03-15 02:08:09 PM  
2 votes:
"And for each and every propety by which ye live upon, which is property owned in the present or at one time by the house of the Lord my father, maker of all lands and all that is known, ye shall pay inordinate sums of thine earthly profits to the registrant ecclesiastical owners of thine property, for thy holy upkeep and general wear-and-tear."

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2014-03-15 01:55:29 PM  
2 votes:
This is why I'd like to see:  1) all laws expire after a specified time; or 2) require Congress to eliminate an old law for every new law enacted.  Preferably both.

If they want to pass some new law, they'll have to decide which old law will cause the least harm once it's eliminated.  It would be the legal equivalent of "survival of the fittest", and, IMHO, that would make for a much better body of laws.

Imagine the quandary that would put some lawmakers in: having to go on record to renew something like the '64 Civil Rights Act when they're closet racists and/or "small government" diehards!  Vote no and you'd lose or enrage a large population of voters.  Either way, they'd use that vote to challenge you in the next election, and a suddenly disenfranchised population just might finally vote your ass out of office!
2014-03-15 01:46:50 PM  
2 votes:
Seems like a simple problem to fix.  It is a 500 year old law, repeal it!  Its not like the Church or England is a political powerhouse anymore.  You have representation in parliament, If they can't get a law repealed which benefits one small group at the expense of a larger group vote them out and try again.
2014-03-15 01:34:59 PM  
2 votes:

Makh: Does nobody read the terms and conditions when they agree to these things?


A law dating back to Henry VIII, and whether or not the church has registered your property doesn't always show up on your deed of title?

Yeah, a clear case of the buyers not doing due diligence...
2014-03-15 05:03:47 PM  
1 votes:

Valiente: In Britain, the church is the state, and the inhabitants are subjects, not citizens.


Three factual errors in this first sentence, pretty impressive!
2014-03-15 02:54:01 PM  
1 votes:

DigitalCoffee: Quick question: In the time that this was passed, was it expected that EVERYONE would pay this (noble and peasant) or just the nobility? If the former then you can't hold a single household responsible for what everyone in the area should be paying. If the latter, then whomever is the local Duke, Barron, or Earl should be paying (and not the homeowner unless they hold the title to the nobility that should be paying).


Most likely the laws simple states Landowner.  Which at the time would have been a Noble, as commoners did not own land.  But now that commoners can be land owners, they are subject to the same laws.  Yay?
2014-03-15 02:31:24 PM  
1 votes:

indy_kid: This is why I'd like to see:  1) all laws expire after a specified time;


That would great in the US with Republicans in Congress. The law for murder expires on such a such a date, and unless billionaires get a tax cut then murder will become legal.
2014-03-15 02:04:34 PM  
1 votes:

indy_kid: This is why I'd like to see:  1) all laws expire after a specified time; or 2) require Congress to eliminate an old law for every new law enacted.  Preferably both.

If they want to pass some new law, they'll have to decide which old law will cause the least harm once it's eliminated.  It would be the legal equivalent of "survival of the fittest", and, IMHO, that would make for a much better body of laws.

Imagine the quandary that would put some lawmakers in: having to go on record to renew something like the '64 Civil Rights Act when they're closet racists and/or "small government" diehards!  Vote no and you'd lose or enrage a large population of voters.  Either way, they'd use that vote to challenge you in the next election, and a suddenly disenfranchised population just might finally vote your ass out of office!


That is fine until Ted Cruz filibusters the law to make rape illegal since Obama is against rape.
2014-03-15 01:45:26 PM  
1 votes:
We should leave England and start our own country!
2014-03-15 01:31:51 PM  
1 votes:
In Britain, the church is the state, and the inhabitants are subjects, not citizens.

How do you like the old woman on the money now, my cousins?

Also, I speak Brit, but I have never heard the term "advice surgery", which I can only guess is some sort of public meeting, or as the Americans in the northeast call it, a "town hall".
2014-03-15 01:31:02 PM  
1 votes:
It looks like a lot of the people are less concerned about the potential cost but are more concerned about the fact that 1) it isn't always disclosed that the property is liable and 2) it's affecting the property values once the churches exercise that right.

If this law is on the books I've got to imagine that there is some equally obscure law to get around it as well.  Something like donating a sheep to the local reverend or some farcical aquatic ceremony where a watery tart hands you a sword.
2014-03-15 01:26:28 PM  
1 votes:
Does nobody read the terms and conditions when they agree to these things?
 
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