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(ABC)   Deputy who sued for height bias is awarded $215,000. Come on, how much does a pair of Dr. Scholl's lift inserts cost these days?   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 8
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2014-03-15 03:33:04 PM
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I am 5'5 and 140 lbs soaking weight.  I have had boxing and some martial art training and all of it helped me in life being a little guy, especially my stint as a manager at Pat Obriens on Bourbon street.

Size and weight do matter, one of my martial art's instructors told me years ago" Your strong, your quick, but your size while a great strength is your greatness weakness, if you gauge someone to have 20 or more lbs on you and a longer reach(which is most people) then grab a stick, a bottle, a chair,  hit them and haul ass".  This was from a Green Beret who wasn't much bigger than I was.

While I am sure there are some 4'7 bad ass women and men out there they are few and far between and a 5'8 185 lb drunk would make short work out of them, mass can and does matter.

In the bar business smaller bouncers are always the one who gets farked with the most.  She was an accident waiting to happen which is why they only used her on safe details, hence the no full time work, and she was too short to be a crossing guard.

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2014-03-15 01:03:08 PM
1 votes:
I'm 6'5". I've always considered suing Lamborghini for not making a car that I could sit in.

/ why the fark not ?
GCD
2014-03-15 12:17:32 PM
1 votes:

WDFark think for a second: CSB:

When I went through my police academy my squad leader was a 4'11" female who was already hired on the force. Tough chick and from what I've heard kicking ass on the street at her agency so if you can pass the training and do the job who gives a crap.


And therein lies the problem.

A lot of these people (female and male in some cases) CANNOT pass the training and do the job...and they're crying "foul" as a result...then suing...then WINNING the lawsuit.

Take the Candidate Physical Ability Test (CPAT) for firefighting. It's a total of EIGHT (8) specific, job-related tasks that you encounter as part of firefighting:

1) Stair Climb
2) Hose Drag
3) Equipment Carry
4) Ladder Raise and Extension
5) Forcible Entry
6) Search
7) Rescue
8) Ceiling Breach and Pull

You have 10 minutes, 20 seconds to complete all 8 events. If you're in half-decent shape, you can pretty much WALK through the event and have time to spare.

It USED to be a pass/fail test...however, there has been multiple lawsuits filed by applicants who have been unable to complete the test for one reason or another.

As a result, they've had to change the testing. In some cases, it still is pass/fail test, however, some departments are now offering multiple attempts to complete the test (including practice runs that don't count as attempts)...or they've switched from the CPAT and gone with another test altogether that doesn't necessarily include job-related tasks.

So, now you have people - who CANNOT DO JOB-SPECIFIC TASKS - on the job...And the last time I checked, firefighting is a pretty god damn dangerous job...It's a recipe for a disaster as far as I'm concerned.

At the end of the day, whether you're male or female has no impact on me...All I care about is that the people on the crew are capable of doing the job they were hired for. If a victim needs to be rescued...or god forbid, a fellow firefighter...then you better be damned sure that you are able to haul ass and get them out of there...and if you can't pass a simulated test....then odds are you're not going to be able to do it when the shiat hits the fan in the real world.
2014-03-15 11:46:16 AM
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weirdneighbour: ArkAngel: Not sure I'd want to hire someone the height of the average 11 year-old boy to work with criminals

So you don't think a bunch of 4' 7" women cops could handle a bar fight?, you 'something something' pig.

 /can't remember the proper term


I saw a 4'7" woman bang a guy's face off a bar, kick his legs out from under him, and then pin him to the ground, all in the space of about 2 seconds.  The guy was about twice as big as me.  Of course, she was 20 year ex-military, and not at all exaggerating that she could kill someone with her bare hands faster than you could blink.  So there are a few of them out there that I'd say, "Yup, go right ahead."

I'm guessing the average 4'7" woman would have as much luck with a really large person as I would, though.  I'm decently well trained -- especially if they're laced up on PCP or some other nice "I FEEL NO PAIN" drug.  My old master's response to my question of, "What should I do if I have to fight someone who is 6'5 and 300 pounds?" was  "Run."  Because however much one wants to feel a badass, when you're my size, you aren't going to do well against someone who can dwarf-toss you if you aren't completely on your game.
2014-03-15 11:41:31 AM
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CSB:

When I went through my police academy my squad leader was a 4'11" female who was already hired on the force. Tough chick and from what I've heard kicking ass on the street at her agency so if you can pass the training and do the job who gives a crap.
2014-03-15 11:35:09 AM
1 votes:
4'7"!? Jesus. I'm 5'5" and I wouldn't hire me either.

I lied. I'm 5'4"
2014-03-15 11:34:07 AM
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rkiller1: So she gets paid $215K and doesn't have to work?  Guess which party she voted for?


If you'd said "$40K and food stamps" I would have said Democratic. But with $215K to do nothing, I'm guessing Republican.

What do I win?
2014-03-15 11:30:59 AM
1 votes:
So she gets paid $215K and doesn't have to work?  Guess which party she voted for?
 
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