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(The Hollywood Reporter)   Marvel Comics to kill off Wolverine. Wait, isn't not dying his superpower?   (hollywoodreporter.com) divider line 103
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2014-03-14 11:55:26 PM
It's ok kids, maybe he'll be the first superhero to get killed and somehow come back to life. I know it's a crazy notion.
 
2014-03-14 11:55:33 PM
Again?
 
2014-03-14 11:57:05 PM
Whoop-dee-farking-doo.

Comic books are worse than soap operas, but people keep farking that chicken.
 
2014-03-14 11:58:12 PM

Mugato: It's ok kids, maybe he'll be the first superhero to get killed and somehow NOT come back to life. I know it's a crazy notion.


FTFY.
 
2014-03-15 12:00:25 AM
No.  Please.  Don't.
 
2014-03-15 12:11:21 AM
So what's the over/under on how long he stays dead?
 
2014-03-15 12:14:00 AM

fusillade762: So what's the over/under on how long he stays dead?


It'd have to be before the next X-Men movie which opens May 23.
 
2014-03-15 12:16:35 AM

Lsherm: Whoop-dee-farking-doo.

Comic books are worse than soap operas, but people keep farking that chicken.


They received major publicity when they killed off Superman in the early 90s, but since they've done that they can't do anything to top it.

The problem with publicity stunts in comics is that it's all been done before.  There's such a huge back library and so many characters that there's very little new left to do, especially with characters that have been around for decades.
 
2014-03-15 12:16:56 AM
No. You're thinking of Deadpool.
 
2014-03-15 12:22:48 AM
I'm not necessarily a Wolverine foaming fanbois, but I have always enjoyed Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk:

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2014-03-15 12:27:47 AM
With the mainstream books, it's usually best to stick to the ones that generally don't get involved in the rest of the universe, or at least the major crossovers.
 
2014-03-15 12:31:29 AM
They really pushed his powers to the nth degree.

I love how the punisher took him out
 
2014-03-15 12:32:12 AM
i thought that being a homosexual was his superpower

just like all of the other x-men
 
2014-03-15 12:38:30 AM

Asa Phelps: thought that being a homosexual was his superpower


That's just Bryan Singer's heavy handed allegory in the films. In the comics it's an allegory for the civil rights movement.
 
2014-03-15 12:42:19 AM
No.

/Just no.
 
2014-03-15 01:20:20 AM

Lsherm: Comic books are worse than soap operas,


Only Marvel and DC.

In many comics, when a character dies, that's it.
 
2014-03-15 01:23:46 AM

TuteTibiImperes: They received major publicity when they killed off Superman in the early 90s


Marvel killed off Superman? WHEN!?
 
2014-03-15 01:35:22 AM
I like the breathless excitement they spew. "OMG you aren't even going to believe this, we're totally serious, this is going to change EVERYTHING OMG I can't believe the bosses are letting us do this OMG!"

yeah. We're all pretty excited too, buddy.
 
2014-03-15 01:48:26 AM
"Three Months to Die?"

With how comic book writers handle time, that could mean one entire issue, or it could mean he'll keel over sometime in 2026.
 
2014-03-15 03:09:54 AM

doglover: TuteTibiImperes: They received major publicity when they killed off Superman in the early 90s

Marvel killed off Superman? WHEN!?



When they sent Bryan Singer over to direct Superman Returns?
 
2014-03-15 03:49:33 AM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: doglover: TuteTibiImperes: They received major publicity when they killed off Superman in the early 90s

Marvel killed off Superman? WHEN!?


When they sent Bryan Singer over to direct Superman Returns?


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2014-03-15 05:54:12 AM

doglover: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: doglover: TuteTibiImperes: They received major publicity when they killed off Superman in the early 90s

Marvel killed off Superman? WHEN!?


When they sent Bryan Singer over to direct Superman Returns?


+1
 
2014-03-15 06:08:45 AM
Wolverine sucks. The X-Men deserve the public response. Go cry some more, Cyclops,

Seriously, No. More. Mutants.
 
2014-03-15 06:16:16 AM
The only people who stay dead are Uncle Ben and Bruce Wayne's parents.

Marvel isn't going to kill their cash cow. He'll come back.
 
2014-03-15 06:51:12 AM

doglover: TuteTibiImperes: They received major publicity when they killed off Superman in the early 90s

Marvel killed off Superman? WHEN!?


Doomsday snapped him in half back in '92.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_Superman
 
2014-03-15 06:54:20 AM

LrdPhoenix: doglover: TuteTibiImperes: They received major publicity when they killed off Superman in the early 90s

Marvel killed off Superman? WHEN!?

Doomsday snapped him in half back in '92.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_Superman


Know how I know you don't know anything about the comic industry?
 
2014-03-15 07:09:07 AM
I remember that death of Superman thing - biggest load of crap and it ended my comic book reading days.
 
2014-03-15 07:35:01 AM
Meh. He'll be back in three months. Six at most. Marvel would die if they tried to go a whole year without him.
 
2014-03-15 07:35:55 AM
1. They zap him with a beam-o-bullshiat that takes away his not dying powers.
2. They kill him.
3. They bring him back with technology powered by ample amounts of handwavium.
4. The comics still suck.
 
2014-03-15 08:10:22 AM
Wish they would. I do enjoy X-Men, but I'm tired of Wolverine.
 
2014-03-15 08:10:46 AM
No, no they're not.
 
2014-03-15 08:19:48 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: No. You're thinking of Deadpool.


I thought his power was being uninteresting and yet somehow being nothing but fan wank?

/srsly, Deadpool sucks
 
2014-03-15 08:22:43 AM
If he stays dead: good.  If he comes back two months later: meh.

\and yes, I know the chances are infinitesimal that he would stay dead
 
2014-03-15 08:38:33 AM

doglover: LrdPhoenix: doglover: TuteTibiImperes: They received major publicity when they killed off Superman in the early 90s

Marvel killed off Superman? WHEN!?

Doomsday snapped him in half back in '92.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_Superman

Know how I know you don't know anything about the comic industry?


Well. Played.
 
2014-03-15 08:41:39 AM
Let me tell you what is going to make me stop reading comics:

I'm currently reading Guardians of the Galaxy.

2 months ago it was "The Trial of Jean Grey 1 of 6"  it ended with "To be continued in X-Men"
I don't read X-Men!  I'm not GOING to read X-Men!

Now last month I get my Guardians.  It's "The Trial of Jean Grey 4 of 6"  And I have ZERO idea what is going on.

From talking to comic people, this has been happening forever in comics.  But it's the first time it's happened to me since I started reading them.

So instead of making more money off me, forcing me to buy a new book, they're going to LOSE my business.
 
2014-03-15 08:58:09 AM

buntz: Let me tell you what is going to make me stop reading comics:

I'm currently reading Guardians of the Galaxy.

2 months ago it was "The Trial of Jean Grey 1 of 6"  it ended with "To be continued in X-Men"
I don't read X-Men!  I'm not GOING to read X-Men!

Now last month I get my Guardians.  It's "The Trial of Jean Grey 4 of 6"  And I have ZERO idea what is going on.

From talking to comic people, this has been happening forever in comics.  But it's the first time it's happened to me since I started reading them.

So instead of making more money off me, forcing me to buy a new book, they're going to LOSE my business.


The fact that I'm expected to pay 3.99 a book for nonsensical, unoriginal plots with often shiatty artwork pushed me out of the comics biz for the most part.  Now, I just wait for TPBs if they have any decent critical acclaim, and comics for the kids, which, ironically, are often superior to much of what's on the shelf.

\haven't purchased a superhero comic since ... Infinity Watch
 
2014-03-15 08:58:42 AM

Ishkur: The only people who stay dead are Uncle Ben and Bruce Wayne's parents.

Marvel isn't going to kill their cash cow. He'll come back.


Came here to say the same thing.  Fark! DC brought Jason Todd back.
 
2014-03-15 08:59:00 AM
I liked wolvie back in the claremont days, when his claws were implanted by the weapon x program (the official handbook of the marvel universe mini series even had a half assed schematic of the implants in the weapons index). Days when green goblin (osborne sr.) Stayed dead, villains like sabertooth would kick wolvies butt half the time, and the xmen were worried about the marauders and morlocks.
 
2014-03-15 09:00:22 AM
I have a better storyline. Lets kill off the editors and writers and see if the comic still keeps writing itself.
 
2014-03-15 09:08:13 AM

buntz: Let me tell you what is going to make me stop reading comics:

I'm currently reading Guardians of the Galaxy.

2 months ago it was "The Trial of Jean Grey 1 of 6"  it ended with "To be continued in X-Men"
I don't read X-Men!  I'm not GOING to read X-Men!

Now last month I get my Guardians.  It's "The Trial of Jean Grey 4 of 6"  And I have ZERO idea what is going on.

From talking to comic people, this has been happening forever in comics.  But it's the first time it's happened to me since I started reading them.

So instead of making more money off me, forcing me to buy a new book, they're going to LOSE my business.


It's shiat like this which has prevented me from getting in to comics. I tried the Guardians of the Galaxy book last month, because the trailer was awesome and my friends thought it was a great comic.

Turns out I bought a book from the 90s. It was some Fantastic 4 segue outro thing, that even though it was 'the first issue' was so convoluted and confusing I literally couldn't figure out what was going on. It was 90% 'last time in book X!' throwbacks.

That shiat? That shiat keeps me from reading comics. I'll admit to reading manga. I enjoy a contained, singular, story, that doesn't have 20-60 years of 'back story' attached, and doesn't have 40000 different comic books they need to feed into the cycle to get people to read. It's just a singular story, by one author not a committee, with a granular start and finish.

I would read American comic books in a heartbeat if they could promise anything like that. Especially if I could get a Shonen Jump style anthology book every month for 10-15$ delivered, rather than this bullshiat of 3$ per book, 1-4 times a month, oh and you need to read 40 books for the whole story, oh and we're just going to end up right back where we started anyway because we have to keep a stasis point for because reasons.
 
2014-03-15 09:23:23 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Lsherm: Whoop-dee-farking-doo.

Comic books are worse than soap operas, but people keep farking that chicken.

They received major publicity when they killed off Superman in the early 90s, but since they've done that they can't do anything to top it.

The problem with publicity stunts in comics is that it's all been done before.  There's such a huge back library and so many characters that there's very little new left to do, especially with characters that have been around for decades.


They managed to get pretty good national press when Captain America died.  Even then though, it was nowhere near the level that Superman had.  The problem is that once you get away from Superman and Batman, the general public doesn't really give a crap about a superhero dying.  It also helped that Superman died during the height of the "these comics will be my retirement fund" collector boom.  It would be impossible to replicate both the cultural significance of Superman as well as the market bubble.
 
2014-03-15 09:34:18 AM

Silvyrbug: I liked wolvie back in the claremont days, when his claws were implanted by the weapon x program (the official handbook of the marvel universe mini series even had a half assed schematic of the implants in the weapons index). Days when green goblin (osborne sr.) Stayed dead, villains like sabertooth would kick wolvies butt half the time, and the xmen were worried about the marauders and morlocks.


why not the Wolverine that was an animal turned human by The High Evolutionary?

or the Wolverine that was fathered by Sabertooth?

or the Wolverine that is part of a separate species of wolf people?
 
2014-03-15 09:38:18 AM

fusillade762: So what's the over/under on how long he stays dead?


Depends on when the next X-Men movie is getting made
 
2014-03-15 09:51:02 AM

buntz: Let me tell you what is going to make me stop reading comics:

I'm currently reading Guardians of the Galaxy.

2 months ago it was "The Trial of Jean Grey 1 of 6"  it ended with "To be continued in X-Men"
I don't read X-Men!  I'm not GOING to read X-Men!

Now last month I get my Guardians.  It's "The Trial of Jean Grey 4 of 6"  And I have ZERO idea what is going on.

From talking to comic people, this has been happening forever in comics.  But it's the first time it's happened to me since I started reading them.

So instead of making more money off me, forcing me to buy a new book, they're going to LOSE my business.


I've been picking my comics up in the gathered graphic novel format. They'll bundle the whatever-ones-are-related-storyline comics into the one book.
Gotta recommend them that way, tbh, unless you're a collector/reseller.
 
2014-03-15 10:01:12 AM
Fred Hembeck delivers the killing blow?
 
2014-03-15 10:01:40 AM
Marvel needs to go a year or two without killing off a major character only to bring them back a few months later. It might be good for them to have to brainstorm up some other story arcs.

So when is Peter Parker coming back guys? Did it happen this month or is that next month, sometime right before the movie, right?
 
2014-03-15 10:02:17 AM

dumbobruni: Silvyrbug: I liked wolvie back in the claremont days, when his claws were implanted by the weapon x program (the official handbook of the marvel universe mini series even had a half assed schematic of the implants in the weapons index). Days when green goblin (osborne sr.) Stayed dead, villains like sabertooth would kick wolvies butt half the time, and the xmen were worried about the marauders and morlocks.

why not the Wolverine that was an animal turned human by The High Evolutionary?

or the Wolverine that was fathered by Sabertooth?

or the Wolverine that is part of a separate species of wolf people?


You know damn well those were all horrible
 
2014-03-15 10:05:39 AM

feickus: Ishkur: The only people who stay dead are Uncle Ben and Bruce Wayne's parents.

Marvel isn't going to kill their cash cow. He'll come back.

Came here to say the same thing.  Fark! DC brought Jason Todd back.


On the under the red hood DVD, one of the interviews about his death had one of the writers saying what an amazing move it was to kill him, and (I think the interview was during his long deaths period) he said "and it would be a really cheap stunt to bring him back.
 
2014-03-15 10:10:22 AM

buntz: Let me tell you what is going to make me stop reading comics:

I'm currently reading Guardians of the Galaxy.

2 months ago it was "The Trial of Jean Grey 1 of 6"  it ended with "To be continued in X-Men"
I don't read X-Men!  I'm not GOING to read X-Men!

Now last month I get my Guardians.  It's "The Trial of Jean Grey 4 of 6"  And I have ZERO idea what is going on.

From talking to comic people, this has been happening forever in comics.  But it's the first time it's happened to me since I started reading them.

So instead of making more money off me, forcing me to buy a new book, they're going to LOSE my business.


Your first mistake was picking up that godawful series in the first place.

Talking heads in space instead of actiony comedy it was before is just a horrible transition for a series to make.

That and the whole first arc had Iron Man shoehorned in there for shiats and giggles.

ArcadianRefugee: I thought his power was being uninteresting and yet somehow being nothing but fan wank?

/srsly, Deadpool sucks


Or you could read the older stories which, like Wolverine's, tended to be a bit more grounded, weren't tied up in event comics and the like.

Stop  your assuming. It makes you look short sighted.
 
2014-03-15 10:11:52 AM

doglover: Lsherm: Comic books are worse than soap operas,

Only Marvel and DC.

In many comics, when a character dies, that's it.


Well until the death of superman, MOSTLY people stayed dead, and it was a big deal when they didn't (phoenix/jean grey). Most of the time, if they came back they were either supernatural or a "we never checked the body, but no one could survive THAT or Doombot/clone"
 
2014-03-15 10:21:27 AM

TwistedFark: Marvel needs to go a year or two without killing off a major character only to bring them back a few months later. It might be good for them to have to brainstorm up some other story arcs.

So when is Peter Parker coming back guys? Did it happen this month or is that next month, sometime right before the movie, right?


I think it's sometime next month.
 
2014-03-15 10:23:12 AM

Capo Del Bandito: That and the whole first arc had Iron Man shoehorned in there for shiats and giggles.


I've been reading it since the Marvel Now Reboot #1 and I have to admit I really like it.  Again, I wasn't a comic book guy before.
I've been reading Green Arrow and Action since the New 52 (Action sucks, GA is amazing).

But Guardians was just a lot of fun.  And I assumed Iron Man was there just because the movies were hot and this was an unpopular (or not as well known title) so that's exactly why he was shoehorned in. (and I like Gamorra nailing him and being disappointed).

But this crossover crap?  Makes me sad to quit it.  I don't want to encourage Marvel to do it, but I also don't want to pay for gibberish!
 
2014-03-15 10:38:38 AM

buntz: Capo Del Bandito: That and the whole first arc had Iron Man shoehorned in there for shiats and giggles.

I've been reading it since the Marvel Now Reboot #1 and I have to admit I really like it.  Again, I wasn't a comic book guy before.
I've been reading Green Arrow and Action since the New 52 (Action sucks, GA is amazing).

But Guardians was just a lot of fun.  And I assumed Iron Man was there just because the movies were hot and this was an unpopular (or not as well known title) so that's exactly why he was shoehorned in. (and I like Gamorra nailing him and being disappointed).

But this crossover crap?  Makes me sad to quit it.  I don't want to encourage Marvel to do it, but I also don't want to pay for gibberish!


Erm... not sure if serious.jpg-inserthereplz

/encourage a comic company to make crossover events?
//did I just get trolled?
 
2014-03-15 10:47:41 AM
As someone said in another thread- what if Dr. Doom and Nick Fury killed each other back in the 70s and it's just been Doombots and Life Model Decoys since then?
 
2014-03-15 10:52:48 AM

Techhell: Erm... not sure if serious.jpg-inserthereplz


Wait, no?  What I mean is I don't want to have to pay for separate titles to finish a story!

If the story starts in Guardians, don't make me buy X-men to continue/finish it!

So now I have issues 1 of 6 and 4 of 6.  So none of it makes sense.  They SORT of recap what happened in the other titles, but it's just a waste of money to buy #1 and #4!
 
2014-03-15 10:56:39 AM

buntz: Techhell: Erm... not sure if serious.jpg-inserthereplz

Wait, no?  What I mean is I don't want to have to pay for separate titles to finish a story!

If the story starts in Guardians, don't make me buy X-men to continue/finish it!

So now I have issues 1 of 6 and 4 of 6.  So none of it makes sense.  They SORT of recap what happened in the other titles, but it's just a waste of money to buy #1 and #4!


You're... new to comics, right?
 
2014-03-15 11:03:38 AM
See you in a couple months, Wolverine.
 
2014-03-15 11:06:41 AM

buntz: Techhell: Erm... not sure if serious.jpg-inserthereplz

Wait, no?  What I mean is I don't want to have to pay for separate titles to finish a story!

If the story starts in Guardians, don't make me buy X-men to continue/finish it!

So now I have issues 1 of 6 and 4 of 6.  So none of it makes sense.  They SORT of recap what happened in the other titles, but it's just a waste of money to buy #1 and #4!


Did you never read Inferno, Atlantis Attacks, Fear Itself, Blackest Night, Civil War, Siege, and other assorted crossover events going back 30 or so years?
 
2014-03-15 11:08:34 AM

Techhell: You're... new to comics, right?


Yes, if you read up you would see I said I only started with Guardians #1.  Had I known this was common practice I wouldn't have started.

Well, I started with Green Arrow and Action #1.  So it's been 2 years.  Green Arrow did it once and I was angry about it (continuing a story in Hawkman, which I don't read).  And Action sort of did it with Superman and I think Supergirl?  But it wasn't vital to the story to read those titles.  It was just sort of extra stuff.

But Guardians is the only Marvel title I read so this was pretty shocking to me.  Or at least when I picked up the last issue I was most shocked to see it actually say 4 of 6 since I never read 2 or 3.
 
2014-03-15 11:32:13 AM
I'm another longtime comics reader who's switched over to waiting for the collected 'graphic novel'/trade version for various reasons.

There are great books out there, if you're looking. Saga, by Vaughn. Hawkeye, by Fraction. Mouseguard, by Peterssen. Atomic Robo, by Clevinger. I honestly don't bother with a lot of the drek (and there's plenty), but if you can find someone who works at a local comics shop, s/he can probably turn you on to some good stuff. Of course, as a part owner of a couple comics/games stores, of course I would say that.
 
2014-03-15 11:32:46 AM

buntz: Techhell: You're... new to comics, right?

Yes, if you read up you would see I said I only started with Guardians #1.  Had I known this was common practice I wouldn't have started.

Well, I started with Green Arrow and Action #1.  So it's been 2 years.  Green Arrow did it once and I was angry about it (continuing a story in Hawkman, which I don't read).  And Action sort of did it with Superman and I think Supergirl?  But it wasn't vital to the story to read those titles.  It was just sort of extra stuff.

But Guardians is the only Marvel title I read so this was pretty shocking to me.  Or at least when I picked up the last issue I was most shocked to see it actually say 4 of 6 since I never read 2 or 3.


Ah, so started with comics entirely with GotG #1.

Yeah... that's pretty much standard fare for Comics. And to be honest you should have seen it coming - it's a standard way of advertising in our culture. Not just in entertainment, but in all aspects. You have two brands coming together for a collaboration in an attempt to grow the consumer base - that's why you see Eminem and Rhianna producing a song, or Aerosmith and Run DMC. It's why you have Law and Order crossing over with Homicide. It's why you have Despicable Me being sold in Burger King or McDonalds or wherever.

Comics depend on these sorts of crossovers to launch new titles and to bolster flagging titles. Maybe 10,000 copies of GotG would be printed if there wasn't a crossover with other stories because it's an obscure title. Which is great for hipsters but terrible for content creators because there just aren't enough hipsters to put food on their tables... or pay for enough people to work on the comic in the first place. So they write stories that cross over with more popular comic lines so that they produce 100,000 comics because there are 90,000 readers of X-Men and 10,000 readers of GotG, so they're reasonably secure in the idea of selling 100,000 comics. And when the story is over, hopefully 10,000 of those X-Men fans will decide to purchase the GotG line, bumping their circulation to 20,000 from 10,000.

Welcome to Comics and welcome to the modern advertising culture in general.
 
2014-03-15 11:35:21 AM

Techhell: You're... new to comics, right?


It's not like his complaint isn't valid. I've not read monthly comics since the mid-80's, and even as a kid I knew I was being played for a sucker.
 
2014-03-15 11:36:45 AM
I had more to say, but I posted it over on Reddit.
 
2014-03-15 11:47:34 AM

Techhell: Welcome to Comics and welcome to the modern advertising culture in general


Yeah, but the difference is with the RUN DMC song, I can hear it for free and then decide to buy it if I like it.

Selling a toy in a Happy Meal advertising the movie is different than forcing me to buy three separate Happy Meals to get the burger, fries and Coke.

I guess I was aware they did these things but I never experienced it first hand.  And at $3.99 or $4.99 a comic book (with more ads than content) I simply can't afford to buy several titles to finish ONE story.

I know I'm not the target audience, but it's still a dick move.
 
2014-03-15 11:54:15 AM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: doglover: TuteTibiImperes: They received major publicity when they killed off Superman in the early 90s

Marvel killed off Superman? WHEN!?


When they sent Bryan Singer over to direct Superman Returns?


/slow clap
 
2014-03-15 12:06:15 PM

buntz: Techhell: Welcome to Comics and welcome to the modern advertising culture in general

Yeah, but the difference is with the RUN DMC song, I can hear it for free and then decide to buy it if I like it.

Selling a toy in a Happy Meal advertising the movie is different than forcing me to buy three separate Happy Meals to get the burger, fries and Coke.

I guess I was aware they did these things but I never experienced it first hand.  And at $3.99 or $4.99 a comic book (with more ads than content) I simply can't afford to buy several titles to finish ONE story.

I know I'm not the target audience, but it's still a dick move.


The really weird thing is that you're fixated on the title of the comic over where the story is in.
/ again, just get the graphic novel formats, available at your local big bookstore
 
2014-03-15 12:15:16 PM

starsrift: The really weird thing is that you're fixated on the title of the comic over where the story is in.


I don't think it's really that weird.  I'm buying this title.  Wouldn't it be like buying a novel and halfway through it tells you to buy a different novel?

I buy a title under the assumption it will tell me a story.

Obviously I'm wrong, but that was my assumption.
 
2014-03-15 12:19:45 PM

bdub77: Mugato: It's ok kids, maybe he'll be the first superhero to get killed and somehow NOT come back to life. I know it's a crazy notion.

FTFY.


ecx.images-amazon.com

Jetboy is still dead.

/Ok, he wasn't exactly super, but neither is Batman
 
2014-03-15 12:29:23 PM
Maybe they'll just send him to Tahiti.
It is a magical place.
 
2014-03-15 12:43:29 PM

Ishkur: The only people who stay dead are Uncle Ben and Bruce Wayne's parents.

Marvel isn't going to kill their cash cow. He'll come back.


And of course, both Uncle Ben and the Waynes have made their appearances in the many reboots that both franchises have made over the years.
 
2014-03-15 12:44:27 PM

Vlad_the_Inaner: Jetboy is still dead.


How's Croyd?  I haven't followed the Wild Card books in ages...
 
2014-03-15 01:28:36 PM

Arkanaut: Ishkur: The only people who stay dead are Uncle Ben and Bruce Wayne's parents.

Marvel isn't going to kill their cash cow. He'll come back.

And of course, both Uncle Ben and the Waynes have made their appearances in the many reboots that both franchises have made over the years.


Hell, Bruce's dad is alive and is Batman in DC's nu Earth 2.
 
2014-03-15 02:00:26 PM

steveGswine: Vlad_the_Inaner: Jetboy is still dead.

How's Croyd?  I haven't followed the Wild Card books in ages...


I haven't either, mostly because there are fewer used paperback stores, and I don't think about it while shopping for books on Amazon.

But however Croyd is, he's different than how you remember.

/He's Zelazny's character IIRC, and I don't know if anyone continued his arc after Zelazny died.
 
2014-03-15 02:08:48 PM

LrdPhoenix: doglover: TuteTibiImperes: They received major publicity when they killed off Superman in the early 90s

Marvel killed off Superman? WHEN!?

Doomsday snapped him in half back in '92.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_Superman


I'm fairly certain that Marvel didn't do that.
 
2014-03-15 02:24:58 PM

calbert: I'm not necessarily a Wolverine foaming fanbois, but I have always enjoyed Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk:

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So, what happens next farker?
 
2014-03-15 02:25:38 PM
So... no Wolverine books and crashing every other line for 6 months or so?

I'm sure all 10 people that still care about Marvel that aren't too young to know the difference are devastated.
 
2014-03-15 02:26:34 PM

calbert: I'm not necessarily a Wolverine foaming fanbois, but I have always enjoyed Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk:

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Didn't it take five years or something for them to complete that story?
 
2014-03-15 02:36:46 PM
So, here's what I don't get. Magneto wears a metal hat to prevent Prof. X from reading his mind. But Wolverine has a metal skull, and Prof. X can just root around in there anytime he wants. What's up with that?
 
2014-03-15 02:43:13 PM

Zavulon: So, here's what I don't get. Magneto wears a metal hat to prevent Prof. X from reading his mind. But Wolverine has a metal skull, and Prof. X can just root around in there anytime he wants. What's up with that?


Because Admantium is just like every other metal?

/more likely 'Because the metal in Magneto's helmet is just like every metal?'
 
2014-03-15 02:55:10 PM

Vlad_the_Inaner: Because Admantium is just like every other metal?

/more likely 'Because the metal in Magneto's helmet is just like every metal?'


The helmet being a magical anti-psi hat is one of the ret-cons, iirc.  The original pseudoscientific explanation for X's power was that he manipulated brain waves.  Magneto's pseudoscientific power was bulk manipulation of B-fields.

X couldn't get into his old buddy's head more because brain waves are electromagnetic and the magnet dude had no problem nullifying things with a magnetic component around his own body.  Sort of covered why his own people weren't just farking bum-rushing him constantly, too, since he could basically shield larger areas with some effort.

// Not that this isn't ultimately just as silly as "his hat is magic", but I feel that the older explanation fits better, since it allows the poor guy to take off his farkin' centurion bullshiat to shower occasionally.  The reason they switched to the magic hat thing is they could get some cheap drama/deus ex machina by knocking it off instead of having the two chess-masters actually resolve conflicts in-character by chess-mastering at each other.  Good crutch for shiatty writers.
 
2014-03-15 02:58:18 PM

Zavulon: So, here's what I don't get. Magneto wears a metal hat to prevent Prof. X from reading his mind. But Wolverine has a metal skull, and Prof. X can just root around in there anytime he wants. What's up with that?


Essentially Magneto's helmet was designed specifically to block Telepaths through "comic book technology" (which only Magneto has... most of the time. At least in the X-Men books; there have been anti-telepath devices in other Marvel lines on a regular basis.) whereas Wolverine simply has an Adamantium skull. That wasn't designed to block out telepathy. Though sometimes he still can. Sort of. In some Universes. (like the Ultimates, at the beginning. Sort of. Maybe. We'll go with that, sure, right, until we don't want to go with it and we want to have Marvel Girl in lingerie in bed with Wolverine and really mad at him and throwing him across a room with her brain. Then he's not immune anymore. Yeah.)

It's.... well, it's Comic Books. It's something that the writers ask the readers to go with and to suspend their disbelief about that point in order to get into the rest of the story. Really if you step back and look at the majority of Comic Book stories there are dozens of glaring inconsistencies per story that we, the audience, have to make the conscious decision not to notice in order to enjoy the stories.
 
2014-03-15 03:16:53 PM

dumbobruni: Silvyrbug: I liked wolvie back in the claremont days, when his claws were implanted by the weapon x program (the official handbook of the marvel universe mini series even had a half assed schematic of the implants in the weapons index). Days when green goblin (osborne sr.) Stayed dead, villains like sabertooth would kick wolvies butt half the time, and the xmen were worried about the marauders and morlocks.

why not the Wolverine that was an animal turned human by The High Evolutionary?

or the Wolverine that was fathered by Sabertooth?

or the Wolverine that is part of a separate species of wolf people?


I know we all like making fun of Canadians on Fark, but this is just rude.
 
2014-03-15 03:21:15 PM

buntz: Capo Del Bandito:

But this crossover crap?  Makes me sad to quit it.  I don't want to encourage Marvel to do it, but I also don't want to pay for gibberishia


tv series do cross-overs as well. Its not that big a deal, and you get the benefit of being exposed to a new book you just might like. That's how I recently found out that I much prefer JLA Dark to the regular series.

 You get used to cross-overs. Reading the collected versions makes it easier to follow the stories if you don't mind the wait.

The All-New X-Men series that Guardians is crossing over with is written by the same author, and features absolutely incredible artwork by Stuart Immonen - seriously one of the most talented artists in the medium ever.

I'm loving this cross-over event as its a sequel of sorts to the storyline that first got me into reading comics decades ago. With the teenage X-men stuck here in the present and Jean Grey being abducted by the Shi'ar and put on trial for the crimes of the Phoenix it's right up my alley. I love the Gladiator and Imperial Guard and the all crazy space-opera trappings - and now the Starjammers have even made an appearance! So much fun.

Wolverine - meh. He was dead and in hell just a couple of years ago - but he got better. They didn't even bother to hype it up like they are now. Sales must be slow.
 
2014-03-15 03:29:14 PM

buntz: starsrift: The really weird thing is that you're fixated on the title of the comic over where the story is in.

I don't think it's really that weird.  I'm buying this title.  Wouldn't it be like buying a novel and halfway through it tells you to buy a different novel?

I buy a title under the assumption it will tell me a story.

Obviously I'm wrong, but that was my assumption.


Most sci-fi/fantasy stories are released in trilogies these days, so... Yes it is like buying a novel and halfway through the story it tells you to buy a different one, and that's... business as usual.
/ CONSUME, CITIZEN.
 
2014-03-15 03:40:39 PM
calbert:

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...

stephendsullivan.com

There truly are no new ideas.
 
2014-03-15 04:36:46 PM

chewielouie: calbert: I'm not necessarily a Wolverine foaming fanbois, but I have always enjoyed Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk:

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So, what happens next farker?


here it is if you want to read it online

all 6 issues, one page, just keep scrolling down.

or you can just read the Wikipedia synopsis

or you can buy the dvd version that came out Sept 2013. (I've also seen it at Redbox to rent, and it's probably on Netflix for streaming, but I'm not positive)
 
2014-03-15 04:44:25 PM

texdent: calbert: I'm not necessarily a Wolverine foaming fanbois, but I have always enjoyed Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk:

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Didn't it take five years or something for them to complete that story?


yes it did. and that was frustrating. unfortunately, the delay is what is remembered most about that story. and yes, interest waned.

and to me, it was really an afterthought when I read online that they were finally finishing it up. I bought the first 2 issues as they came out, heard about the delay, put them away. years go by, I hear that they're finally going to finish it, I wait until they do finish it before picking up the last 4 issues. read them once and put them away.

it was kinda like forcing yourself to watch a tv show through to the end only because at one point you did care about it and you did invest the time.
 
2014-03-15 04:58:20 PM
If there's one thing people like more than a hero, it's a fallen hero. Honestly, we should have seen this coming a mile away with his recent popularity in the movie and video game industries. Marvel might as well just said "We're going to jump the death shark with yet another character and there's nothing you can do about it."


Here's a zombie Wolverine to celebrate the inanity.

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2014-03-15 05:49:10 PM

texdent: calbert: I'm not necessarily a Wolverine foaming fanbois, but I have always enjoyed Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk:

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Didn't it take five years or something for them to complete that story?


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2014-03-15 06:32:18 PM
Ultimate Wolverine DID die and stayed dead, along with many other Ultimate Universe characters (including Peter Parker). They ain't coming back. Ultimate has been pretty good about that.

However, they did replace them both with new versions. Wolverine had a son (not Daken, thankfully) and Miles Morales became Spider-Man (a very good one, if you ask me).
 
2014-03-15 07:39:29 PM

texdent: buntz: Techhell: Erm... not sure if serious.jpg-inserthereplz

Wait, no?  What I mean is I don't want to have to pay for separate titles to finish a story!

If the story starts in Guardians, don't make me buy X-men to continue/finish it!

So now I have issues 1 of 6 and 4 of 6.  So none of it makes sense.  They SORT of recap what happened in the other titles, but it's just a waste of money to buy #1 and #4!

Did you never read Inferno, Atlantis Attacks, Fear Itself, Blackest Night, Civil War, Siege, and other assorted crossover events going back 30 or so years?


I don't blame him.  Comics as a medium for anything more than a movie pitch is dead.  Nobody new buys comics because of that reason and others such as constant reboots making the stories meaningless, extreme cost, etc.

"Because they've always done it" isn't a good enough reason since the industry is a non-growing deadzone.
 
2014-03-15 08:20:14 PM

texdent: buntz: Techhell: Erm... not sure if serious.jpg-inserthereplz

Wait, no?  What I mean is I don't want to have to pay for separate titles to finish a story!

If the story starts in Guardians, don't make me buy X-men to continue/finish it!

So now I have issues 1 of 6 and 4 of 6.  So none of it makes sense.  They SORT of recap what happened in the other titles, but it's just a waste of money to buy #1 and #4!

Did you never read Inferno, Atlantis Attacks, Fear Itself, Blackest Night, Civil War, Siege, and other assorted crossover events going back 30 or so years?


The period after Inferno where most of the X-men were dead and they go through the Siege Perilous or whatnot was the bullshiat that made me quit reading comics for 12 years
 
2014-03-15 09:59:44 PM

Fano: feickus: Ishkur: The only people who stay dead are Uncle Ben and Bruce Wayne's parents.

Marvel isn't going to kill their cash cow. He'll come back.

Came here to say the same thing.  Fark! DC brought Jason Todd back.

On the under the red hood DVD, one of the interviews about his death had one of the writers saying what an amazing move it was to kill him, and (I think the interview was during his long deaths period) he said "and it would be a really cheap stunt to bring him back.


I thought Under the Hood was not all that bad, aside from the whole Reality Punch! thing being the genesis of it.
 
2014-03-15 10:27:51 PM
I thought wolverines power was being popular, which is why he's harder to kill than Superman
 
2014-03-15 10:47:00 PM

loonatic112358: I thought wolverines power was being popular, which is why he's harder to kill than Superman


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2014-03-15 10:56:05 PM

Mentat: loonatic112358: I thought wolverines power was being popular, which is why he's harder to kill than Superman

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Yea, that's exactly what I was thinming of
 
2014-03-16 01:09:26 AM

Ishkur: The only people who stay dead are Uncle Ben and Bruce Wayne's parents.

Marvel isn't going to kill their cash cow. He'll come back.


I'm pretty sure Deathwatch isn't coming back.
 
2014-03-16 02:01:46 AM

Capo Del Bandito: ArcadianRefugee: I thought his power was being uninteresting and yet somehow being nothing but fan wank?

/srsly, Deadpool sucks

Or you could read the older stories which, like Wolverine's, tended to be a bit more grounded, weren't tied up in event comics and the like.

Stop your assuming. It makes you look short sighted.


He says to the 43-yo.

Deadpool. Sucks.

Always has. Always will.
 
2014-03-16 04:50:53 AM

dumbobruni: Silvyrbug: I liked wolvie back in the claremont days, when his claws were implanted by the weapon x program (the official handbook of the marvel universe mini series even had a half assed schematic of the implants in the weapons index). Days when green goblin (osborne sr.) Stayed dead, villains like sabertooth would kick wolvies butt half the time, and the xmen were worried about the marauders and morlocks.

why not the Wolverine that was an animal turned human by The High Evolutionary?

or the Wolverine that was fathered by Sabertooth?

or the Wolverine that is part of a separate species of wolf people?


The first two were possible ideas for the character that never became canon, while the third did become canon, but it's been ignored since, mostly because the story it came from was terrible and the guy who wrote it nearly killed off X-Men through sheer suckage.
 
2014-03-16 09:17:28 AM

Techhell: buntz: Techhell: Erm... not sure if serious.jpg-inserthereplz

Wait, no?  What I mean is I don't want to have to pay for separate titles to finish a story!

If the story starts in Guardians, don't make me buy X-men to continue/finish it!

So now I have issues 1 of 6 and 4 of 6.  So none of it makes sense.  They SORT of recap what happened in the other titles, but it's just a waste of money to buy #1 and #4!

You're... new to comics, right?


AFT

I bought an issue of Ghost Rider because it crossed over with X-Men and 11 yr old me HAD to know what was up with Gambit's wife!
 
2014-03-16 09:18:03 AM
QFT

Preview is your friend. Android's autocorrect is not.
 
2014-03-16 09:19:26 AM

ArcadianRefugee: Capo Del Bandito: ArcadianRefugee: I thought his power was being uninteresting and yet somehow being nothing but fan wank?

/srsly, Deadpool sucks

Or you could read the older stories which, like Wolverine's, tended to be a bit more grounded, weren't tied up in event comics and the like.

Stop your assuming. It makes you look short sighted.

He says to the 43-yo.

Deadpool. Sucks.

Always has. Always will.


if you read the first 25 issues of Deadpool's first ongoing series, before all the shenanigans took off, it's a really solid story. There's several many arcs in there, but those 25 issues are the reason why I still pay attention to Deadpool.
 
2014-03-16 01:54:42 PM

doglover: TuteTibiImperes: They received major publicity when they killed off Superman in the early 90s

Marvel killed off Superman? WHEN!?


When they sent a letter to DC comic saying "oh please don't make a Superman Returns. We are so scared of it" one night after too much weed and beer.
 
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