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2014-03-14 11:41:11 PM  
The only thing freakier than the sponge monkies is the Chernobyl death train...
 
2014-03-14 11:50:11 PM  

Omnivorous: The pre-bankruptcy article in the Wall Street Journal talked about how the stores would do more than $600K per year and now the top stores are lucky to do $300K.  Refinancing is just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.  NOTHING about their business model is working.


The Quiznos  franchisees need to advise Quiznos the same way that Quiznos handled their complaints:  "OTHER sandwich franchise companies are making lots of money.  The aren't complaining. You're the only one. YOU just need to work harder."

//Then the Quiznos store owner would call the one that was supposed to be booming and be told they were barely making it, too.
 
2014-03-14 11:53:56 PM  
Not surprised. Used to love Quiznos... but then they started cutting back. They got rid of the clam chowder I liked... but worse, the sandwich contents shrank. Eventually, they had the nerve to put out a sandwich where the bun was basically a breadstick (Torpedo!).

Seriously... WTF?

Then the corporation started putting the squeeze on franchise owners. Our local franchise dropped them and is packed everyday putting together loaded subs with two or three times the selection of any Quiznos - and they probably charge more than Quiznos, but people care about taste and value (yes, the non-Quiznos charges more, but delivers a LOT more on the sandwich)
 
2014-03-14 11:55:00 PM  
from the sound of it, i'm making a pretty horrible mistake by skipping out on firehouse for no good reason

Speaker2Animals: optikeye: Jimmy Johns or Subway is better stuff.

Jimmy John's is owned by a sleaze bag big game hunter who compensates for his small dick by shooting big things in Africa.


and he has two first names
 
2014-03-15 12:08:24 AM  

sprawl15: from the sound of it, i'm making a pretty horrible mistake by skipping out on firehouse for no good reason


Firehouse's gimmick is that they steam the meat.  That's it.  They get props for fresh toppings and decent bread, but they aren't THAT good.  However, the steaming leaves you with a soft, mushy sub that usually works if you order one of the hot ones.
 
2014-03-15 12:10:39 AM  
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2014-03-15 12:20:43 AM  

Lsherm: sprawl15: from the sound of it, i'm making a pretty horrible mistake by skipping out on firehouse for no good reason

Firehouse's gimmick is that they steam the meat.  That's it.  They get props for fresh toppings and decent bread, but they aren't THAT good.  However, the steaming leaves you with a soft, mushy sub that usually works if you order one of the hot ones.


I really like the Sweet and Spicy Meatball sub they do, which is basically just their normal meatball sub with their house hotsauce poured over it.  Still, it's a great sauce, those who like Sriracha will likely love it.
 
2014-03-15 12:28:54 AM  

tbhouston: [www.thehulltruth.com image 608x457]
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You're telling me that the geniuses that greenlit those ads ran the company into the ground?  The hell, you say.
 
2014-03-15 12:30:21 AM  

Lsherm: sprawl15: from the sound of it, i'm making a pretty horrible mistake by skipping out on firehouse for no good reason

Firehouse's gimmick is that they steam the meat.  That's it.  They get props for fresh toppings and decent bread, but they aren't THAT good.  However, the steaming leaves you with a soft, mushy sub that usually works if you order one of the hot ones.


i was an af brat and i used to eat robin hood sandwiches all the time - they were amazing, and made me forever love creamy italian or italian/mayo as a sandwich topping. then years and years later i found one in the states and it was just gross :(

considering the only other fast food sub place around is subway (quizno's closed) i'll give it a shot, especially since they have appear to have a 'new york steamer'
 
2014-03-15 01:26:33 AM  

tbhouston: img.fark.net
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You're the only person in this thread who really gets Quiznos.  Shame on everyone else.
 
2014-03-15 01:35:29 AM  

The Bestest: THAT's what you get for shredding the roof of my mouth!


this
 
2014-03-15 03:12:01 AM  

optikeye: Jimmy Johns or Subway is better stuff.


I had a co-worker pick Jimmy Johns a few times for a lunch run, and I asked him to bring me back a sandwich.   Each time, I got a shredded lettuce sandwich that may or may not have had meat somewhere in it.  I won't ever eat at one again.

I liked Quizno's, but I recalled it seemed pretty expensive for a sub shop.  The local places are better, and the same price or cheaper.
 
2014-03-15 03:26:20 AM  
Down here, the local Quizno's (that wasn't in the airport) closed down.  Part of it was pricing probably, and part of it was the owner's attitude that if you wanted to swap out the cheese on a steak and cheese for a different type of cheese, it was 80 cents - same as extra cheese.  We stopped going there from work.

That's why I felt no shame in ordering my food and making the guy deliver it.  Across a strip mall parking lot.
 
2014-03-15 03:27:46 AM  
When I was 18 I worked at and then was the 'manager' of a small quizno's owned by a couple who made it their full time jobs (except for some minor contracting for the husband).

It was a good product at the time, their vents were intentionally placed to blow into the mini-mall's parking lot and the smell was very attractive. They had what they told me was one of the 'old' ovens which allowed for more of a variance in speed and a slower and better toast (their specialty).

The idea was to be premium. I sliced more actual pieces of meat and blocks of cheese than I can count and freshness was integral.

We had some corporate prepared products, guac, the chicken, 'mesquite powder' and 'au jus', the bread was sent frozen and parbaked. But as someone who works in restaurants I feel comfortable calling it real food.

The owners had a 7% royalty and no choices on purchasing except for veggies. Quizno's wanted them to change their oven and sent out straight up 2-for-1 coupons in our area. (Average sub was 8 inch for 7ish bucks or the NEW 12 inch sub's for 10)

They got into legal issues with the company and after I moved back home they tried to take the idea and go independent. I heard from my ex they went under before they could under a huge legal cloud.

This was a profitable (barely) business that, though I was not made privy to all of the details, was run into the ground by corporate.

In another continent a couple years later I dropped off a resume at what turned out to be the first franchised location in the country. The next day I was the manager and watched the store while the owners (cousins, male) spent a month and a half in The States). Business was lackluster, didn't catch on, and the product seemed a touch lower grade than I recalled. My visa ran out a bit after and they dropped me off at the airport and gave me a few hundred dollar bonus. They went under less than two !months later.

I've eaten at Quizno's a handful of times since then. The focus shifted to bargain-hunting and quality has suffered significantly.

Of the four I remember eating at in Toronto in the last 8 years none are standing.

There probably are some, but I don't see them and don't care to look. Actually, last I remember, a fifth is still open, but so what.

Pity, I used to eat there five or six days a week at work and loved it.
 
2014-03-15 03:28:13 AM  

Speaker2Animals: optikeye: Jimmy Johns or Subway is better stuff.

Jimmy John's is owned by a sleaze bag big game hunter who compensates for his small dick by shooting big things in Africa.


That makes me want to order them them more.  Thanks
 
2014-03-15 04:16:48 AM  
I always liked Quiznos best of the chain sandwich shops in town (Jimmy Johns, Subway, Penn Station).  They had the best menu variety and there's nothing like a properly toasted sandwich with melty cheese.  But the one in town went out of business at least twice before it vanished for good.

Subway has farking cotton wool for bread and meats so processed you'd be hard pressed to prove they came from real animals.  Since they ditched the asiago caesar chicken I liked ~10 years ago, I've been unhappy with them.

Jimmy Johns is OK, probably the best bread of them all and I like the cookies, but the rest of their stuff is pretty average and the menu is really limited.
 
2014-03-15 04:29:21 AM  

Nabb1: bdub77: The Bestest: optikeye: Jimmy Johns or Subway is better stuff.

Of chain shops, I'd probably go firehouse > jersey mikes > quiznos > jimmy johns > blimpie > subway

..but almost always, a local deli would be better than any of those

I'd put Jimmy John's before Quiznos but...pretty accurate. Firehouse is the bomb.

I've never had Firehouse. But, I don't think too many of them beat a good po'boy from one of the shops in my neck of the woods.


Ain't missing nothing.  Their sandwiches are all sickly sweet things.
 
2014-03-15 04:36:51 AM  

Mrtraveler01: All the Quizno's by me closed a few years back, I didn't know they were still in existence.


There was a Quizno's that popped up in my neighborhood a few years ago, but last I checked, it went out of business. There's a Subway across the street from them that gets steady business, and a Firehouse Subs a block away that just opened a few months ago. I have yet to see a Blimpie's around here, and the closest Jimmy Johns' is a 20 mile drive away.
 
2014-03-15 05:10:27 AM  

Speaker2Animals: optikeye: Jimmy Johns or Subway is better stuff.

Jimmy John's is owned by a sleaze bag big game hunter who compensates for his small dick by shooting big things in Africa.


You mean like the ones on the sandwiches you eat?
 
2014-03-15 06:36:01 AM  

jigger: They did the restaurant death spiral thing. I've seen it happen to restaurants run by stupid people. When business gets slow they lower the quality of their food to save money. They get fewer customers and the quality goes down further until the restaurant closes. Idiots.


Another excellent reason to lower the quality of the food is to give the owner(s) more money to buy drugs.
 
2014-03-15 08:08:18 AM  
Subby, I believe you meant to say "floasted."

guyism.com
 
2014-03-15 08:58:51 AM  
I refuse to eat at any Jimmy Johns. The local franchise owner is scum. Police had to be placed along the residential road by one of his stores to stop the speeding. It got so bad the town was going to block off access on his end of the intersection. Everything came to a head when a doctor walking his dog was killed on the road. Then the tard threatened to sue to block the first expansion of a local very famous corned beef place that was looking to go to the 'burbs. Despite his rental contract explicitly stating that other competing shops were allowed in.
 
2014-03-15 09:11:58 AM  
All except seven of its nearly 2,100 restaurants are independently owned and operated by franchisees and will not be affected by the bankruptcy, the company said in a statement.

So 2093 stores are unaffected?  Anything to see here?
 
2014-03-15 09:12:55 AM  
I fail to see the appeal of Jimmy Johns. The one time I ate there, it was $8 for the most uninspiring cold cut sandwich I've ever tasted. I suppose it could be that particular store....

...now for chain shop, Potbellies is darn yummy.
 
2014-03-15 09:16:11 AM  

snowshovel: I fail to see the appeal of Jimmy Johns. The one time I ate there, it was $8 for the most uninspiring cold cut sandwich I've ever tasted. I suppose it could be that particular store....

...now for chain shop, Potbellies is darn yummy.


Their only appeal is that they deliver.  Other than than that they aren't as good.

Publix subs though.....rock.
 
2014-03-15 09:25:31 AM  
Maybe Quiznos in Canada is different than Quiznos in the US, but the Quiznos up here were terrible. The only thing they had going for them (at the time) was the option to toast, which Subway didn't have. Other than that nothing was better; it was bland, expensive, slow and limited with useless 'deals' that were a joke. One deal I distinctly remember would save you less than a quarter on a 8in meal deal and you had to get chips with it.

Woo, save a quarter. Genius! No wonder they're filing for bankruptcy.
 
2014-03-15 09:28:07 AM  

Speaker2Animals: optikeye: Jimmy Johns or Subway is better stuff.

Jimmy John's is owned by a sleaze bag big game hunter who compensates for his small dick by shooting big things in Africa.


Does he give money to anti-poaching patrols and habitat preservation?  I've known quite a few Kansas and Texas oil guys who shoot elephants, wildebeests, etc., who donate more to wildlife preservation than most Americans make in a year.


As far as the various Quizno's stories here: took a plane flight one time. Guy sitting next to me owned a few Subways and a few Pizza Huts. From what he told me, I would say never ever buy into a franchise system unless you are willing to constantly be at war with the corporate office dimwits.
 
2014-03-15 09:37:01 AM  
They're opening a Firehouse Subs about 30 minutes from me, here in southern NH. It's the first in the area that I'm aware of. I'm curious to see what all the fuss is about...but I'm not sure I'll drive to Nashua just to get a sub. Maybe if I'm in the area already, but if I'm in Nashua (and it's not a Sunday), I'm probably looking for some Chick-Fil-A.

There are plenty of Subways around here. One of my best friends manages one of the stores, but he does a bit of work for the state's franchisor (or owner, or however they're set up) and has warned me about avoiding certain locations. Quizno's never really got a good foothold. Of course, as was mentioned upthread, we already have D'Angelo for a regional chain, so that's going to be hard to beat.

But if I want a cold-cut sandwich, there are plenty of pizza shops and convenience store sub shops that can whip up a delicious Italian sub, or better yet, the variety store's "ham and cheese BLT" (yes, exactly what it sounds like, pretty much two subs crammed into one roll). There's also another local chain (five or six shops now) known for their steak-and-cheese subs, though I wish they'd make a steak bomb (thanks, D'Angelo). Thanks to that, I haven't eaten at Subway in probably four or five years.

Of course, if you haven't been there before, or you're from out of town, you're not going to know if the local convenience store makes a good sandwich, or how good that local restaurant actually is. I guess that's why Subway exists.

/we need some Potbelly up here
//yeah, they have them in Boston, but I don't live in Boston
 
2014-03-15 09:44:50 AM  
The big sammich shops aren't much different than fast food hamburger places, IMO. Namely, poor quality imitations of the real thing.

Subway is pretty gross. I used to like their bread back in the early 90's, but I was just a broke kid. Same with JJ's. Loved them in college. Now, meh. The last one I had was covered in so much mayo that the meat kept slipping out like a bar of soap. Quizno's was always odd how they put their steak in hot water or something to heat it up. Not many other chains here.

I'll either go to the butcher shop for house-smoked turkey or to the Vietnamese place for some banh mi. Both are outstanding, but about the only good sammiches around.
 
2014-03-15 09:49:21 AM  
Used to like Quizno's years ago but yeah, their quality went downhill fast.  Plus they were always the messiest sammiches.  There's only one left in this area and I doubt anyone goes there.

We're infested with Subway, like everyone else.  No Firehouse or Jersey Mike's around here.  We got DiBella's (great, except for the turkey), Potbelly (very good), Jimmy John's (acceptable) and Penn Station (way overrated).
 
2014-03-15 10:23:48 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: Speaker2Animals: optikeye: Jimmy Johns or Subway is better stuff.

Jimmy John's is owned by a sleaze bag big game hunter who compensates for his small dick by shooting big things in Africa.

That makes me want to order them them more.  Thanks


So, you've got size problems, too. My sympathies.
 
2014-03-15 10:25:17 AM  

DanInKansas: Speaker2Animals: optikeye: Jimmy Johns or Subway is better stuff.

Jimmy John's is owned by a sleaze bag big game hunter who compensates for his small dick by shooting big things in Africa.

Does he give money to anti-poaching patrols and habitat preservation?  I've known quite a few Kansas and Texas oil guys who shoot elephants, wildebeests, etc., who donate more to wildlife preservation than most Americans make in a year.


As far as the various Quizno's stories here: took a plane flight one time. Guy sitting next to me owned a few Subways and a few Pizza Huts. From what he told me, I would say never ever buy into a franchise system unless you are willing to constantly be at war with the corporate office dimwits.


Oil guys as friends of the environment. LOL.
 
2014-03-15 10:44:36 AM  
I remember really liking JJ's 20 years ago. It sucks now compared to what's out there. Cheap white bread, lousy meat, and about 2 veggies. JJ's is stuck competing with Subway in 1993.
 
2014-03-15 10:47:15 AM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: jjorsett: Quiznos once had more than 5,000 stores and could have threatened rival Subway's hold on the sub market. But now, Subway has nearly 20 times the number of stores, with about 40,000 locations in 100 countries.

I believe it. Around here they seem to be opening Subways in the very cracks of the sidewalk. It seems like all you have to do is stand in one place and there'll be a Subway visible in at least one direction.

It's really cheap to open a Subway franchise and they have no problem allowing them across the street from each other.


Um, not so much.  You sign a Subway franchise, it's for 10 years and even if your store goes under, you have to pay them the entire 10 yr license fee.  And no, it's not cheap.
 
2014-03-15 11:12:04 AM  

inclemency: When I was 18 I worked at and then was the 'manager' of a small quizno's owned by a couple who made it their full time jobs (except for some minor contracting for the husband).

It was a good product at the time, their vents were intentionally placed to blow into the mini-mall's parking lot and the smell was very attractive. They had what they told me was one of the 'old' ovens which allowed for more of a variance in speed and a slower and better toast (their specialty).

The idea was to be premium. I sliced more actual pieces of meat and blocks of cheese than I can count and freshness was integral.

We had some corporate prepared products, guac, the chicken, 'mesquite powder' and 'au jus', the bread was sent frozen and parbaked. But as someone who works in restaurants I feel comfortable calling it real food.

The owners had a 7% royalty and no choices on purchasing except for veggies. Quizno's wanted them to change their oven and sent out straight up 2-for-1 coupons in our area. (Average sub was 8 inch for 7ish bucks or the NEW 12 inch sub's for 10)

They got into legal issues with the company and after I moved back home they tried to take the idea and go independent. I heard from my ex they went under before they could under a huge legal cloud.

This was a profitable (barely) business that, though I was not made privy to all of the details, was run into the ground by corporate.

In another continent a couple years later I dropped off a resume at what turned out to be the first franchised location in the country. The next day I was the manager and watched the store while the owners (cousins, male) spent a month and a half in The States). Business was lackluster, didn't catch on, and the product seemed a touch lower grade than I recalled. My visa ran out a bit after and they dropped me off at the airport and gave me a few hundred dollar bonus. They went under less than two !months later.

I've eaten at Quizno's a handful of times since then. The focus shifted to bargain-hunting and quality has suffered significantly.

Of the four I remember eating at in Toronto in the last 8 years none are standing.

There probably are some, but I don't see them and don't care to look. Actually, last I remember, a fifth is still open, but so what.

Pity, I used to eat there five or six days a week at work and loved it.


I was a shift manager for a Quiznos for a hot minute, they did the same to our store. Corporate started having more and more of a say and everything started to go downhill.

And the coupons were the worst; corporate would send out mailers with those 2-for-1 coupons but would forge to tell the owners half the time. We usually found out about coupons when the customers era started bringing them in. And then corporate would drag their feet with the reimbursements for said coupons.

And did you ever have corporate inspectors come out and stand over your shoulder with a stopwatch timing you while you made a sandwich during the middle of the rush? Each station on the make line had 30 seconds to do their bit. Like 30 seconds to cut the bread and put the sauce on it, 30 seconds to do the meats and veggies, thirty seconds to put on toppings after the oven and cut it, farking bullshiat is what that was.

I left there making $7.50 an hour as shift manager (in 2006), to work in the kitchen at a local pizza chain making $6.50 (but where we actually got raises for doing good at our job instead of based on bullshiat corporate performance reviews). One of the best decisions I ever made.

/fark corporate restaurants, eat local
 
2014-03-15 11:24:57 AM  
Either Lenny's or Jersey Mike's go to the head of the list, and the only time I've been near a Jersey Mike's was during a vacation in Florida years ago. They were just across the parking lot from the hotel, so we tried them out.

Then we had them for lunch every single day till we left. Their Philly Cheese-steak is pretty damn epic.

Lenny's isn't as well known, but they make a mean sub as well.
 
2014-03-15 11:34:05 AM  
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2014-03-15 12:02:31 PM  

DemonEater: I always liked Quiznos best of the chain sandwich shops in town (Jimmy Johns, Subway, Penn Station).  They had the best menu variety and there's nothing like a properly toasted sandwich with melty cheese.


This.

But the one in town went out of business at least twice before it vanished for good.

And that.

Same happened to the two closest to my office.  We'd go there for lunch pretty often and it was always packed.  Then one day we go and the place simply isn't open.  No sign, nothing.  It sat there for nearly a year untouched.  In the meantime we started going to another one farther away.  Busy as well, and then boom, closed.
 
2014-03-15 12:03:52 PM  
The sauces are all sickeningly sweet. Yuck.
 
2014-03-15 12:14:13 PM  

Lighting: Nabb1: bdub77: The Bestest: optikeye: Jimmy Johns or Subway is better stuff.

Of chain shops, I'd probably go firehouse > jersey mikes > quiznos > jimmy johns > blimpie > subway

..but almost always, a local deli would be better than any of those

I'd put Jimmy John's before Quiznos but...pretty accurate. Firehouse is the bomb.

I've never had Firehouse. But, I don't think too many of them beat a good po'boy from one of the shops in my neck of the woods.

Surprisingly, they are pretty good, and the steamed sandwiches are novel. They are kind of like the 5 Guys of sub shops. They are no Parkway, but are quite good for a chain.

Now, is it ok to eat at Jimmy Johns if Drew Brees owns it?


I will also back you up in this. Firehouse is pretty good. You pay more than you will at Subway but get a lot more for the money too. Quiznos was good like 7 years ago. Their owners have spent the entire time farking over their franchises. I say let them die.
 
2014-03-15 12:43:49 PM  
There used to be a Quiznos across the street from where I worked. When it opened, they were expensive but very good. Then they dropped the quality and the amount of meat in the subs, but kept the prices high. I haven't been there since.
 
2014-03-15 03:21:49 PM  

Hagbardr: Now I'm in the mood for a Wawa hoagie.


NeoCortex42: Hagbardr: Now I'm in the mood for a Wawa hoagie.

I can't believe the amount they've expanded their food selection by over the last ten years or so. I spent most of high school working in one, and the selection was pretty much just the hoagies.


Love Wawa hoagies. Love Jersey Mike's too. Fark Quizno's and their shiatty bread, fark subway because they suck from top to bottom. Bland, slimy meat, bland to bitter veggies and crappy rolls does NOT make a good sandwich Subway. Jared's fat ass lost weight because your food tastes like crap and has the nutritional value of cardboard.
 
2014-03-15 03:22:18 PM  
I liked their subs, I did not like paying $8-9 for a large sub.

/the chicken carbonnara was heart-attack heaven
//so yum
 
2014-03-15 03:53:35 PM  
So I guess I agree with the consensus. They started out great, and worth the extra price, then they turned to crap. I absolutely hate that Subway is really the only choice for a sub around here. Bland, tasteless garbage.
 
2014-03-15 05:34:29 PM  
I think they are only local chain in the Philly / Jersey area, but Primo's makes phenomenal subs, really good meat and really good rolls. A little on the pricey side, but worth it on occasion.
 
2014-03-15 06:04:20 PM  

BadReligion: Super high quality meats(they make the turkey and roast beef everyday from scratch)


They have a slaughterhouse in the back room?
 
2014-03-15 06:15:05 PM  
I ate at the Quiznos a few times in Barboursville WV, and it was excellent. They opened one in Clarksburg WV, I thought Great! then tried it, it sucked. It's now out of business and has been for awhile. Can't remember the last time I've seen a Quiznos....
 
2014-03-15 06:31:38 PM  
Potbelly started out local in Chicago. Now there's like 3 on every corner in DC and any other city that has one. Still, their sandwiches are pretty good, if close to Quiznos level expensive.

/I get the chicken clubby
//off-menu item
 
2014-03-15 07:34:08 PM  
What, nobody wants to pay 8 bucks for half a sub.....shocker!!
 
2014-03-15 08:23:55 PM  

EbolaNYC: Speaker2Animals: optikeye: Jimmy Johns or Subway is better stuff.

Jimmy John's is owned by a sleaze bag big game hunter who compensates for his small dick by shooting big things in Africa.

You mean like the ones on the sandwiches you eat?


Yes, exactly like all the African animals that JJ is serving in his U.S. sub shops.

/herpaderp
 
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