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2014-03-14 03:25:32 PM
Still worth the money.
 
2014-03-14 03:28:08 PM
Hey, it says it's worth it.

If you take into consideration that about 50% of my 31 orders from 2013 were also next-day shipping, it's even more worth it.
 
2014-03-14 03:29:46 PM
Hint.  It is.
 
2014-03-14 03:34:32 PM
It depends on how much you buy from Amazon.

I buy a ridiculous quantity of things from Amazon.
 
2014-03-14 03:49:32 PM
I find that living in NYC causes most of my 2 day shipping to be overnight.
 
2014-03-14 04:00:30 PM
Does the widget take into account that Amazon Prime gives "free" two day shipping, or is it comparing the Prime price to the regular speed shipping charge?  Time is worth money for a lot of people.  (Yes, I know that sometimes even the two day Prime ends up in the hands of a slow last mile delivery agent.)
 
2014-03-14 04:02:48 PM
 
2014-03-14 04:03:09 PM
Isn't it still cheaper than Netflix?
 
2014-03-14 04:03:24 PM
^As in the price of the item.
 
2014-03-14 04:09:32 PM
stream.....a LOT
 
2014-03-14 04:09:52 PM

RexTalionis: Hey, it says it's worth it.

If you take into consideration that about 50% of my 31 orders from 2013 were also next-day shipping, it's even more worth it.


I had a few of those too.  I ordered it before noon and it was on my doorstep when I got home the next day.
 
2014-03-14 04:11:14 PM
202 orders... if 3/4 were Prime (that's probably low) I still save about $400. I'd call that worth the money.
 
2014-03-14 04:12:59 PM

ManateeGag: RexTalionis: Hey, it says it's worth it.

If you take into consideration that about 50% of my 31 orders from 2013 were also next-day shipping, it's even more worth it.

I had a few of those too.  I ordered it before noon and it was on my doorstep when I got home the next day.


Living in Seattle this is true.  If I order usually before noon it'll show up the next day for the smaller stuff.  The larger stuff will sometimes show up in two days if it's coming from the Las Vegas area.
 
2014-03-14 04:17:41 PM
Totally worth it. $0.31 per shipment currently and $0.38 per shipment after the price rise.
 
2014-03-14 04:19:16 PM
 I also did not attempt to estimate the cash value of Prime's catalog of e-books, movies, and the like.

Ummm...fail. Makes the whole thing pointless.
 
2014-03-14 04:19:53 PM
Hell yeah it is. With few exceptions, any non-grocery item I don't need right away that Amazon carries I buy on Amazon.
 
2014-03-14 04:21:58 PM
What if someone, say a thrifty cousin's friend friend, that I don't know personally, really really really needed to sit on a buttplug covered with an assortment of flavored syrups ASAP?  I mean hypothetically.  At what point does cost outweight benif...gotta run UPS.
 
2014-03-14 04:27:19 PM
Is this for Slate writers? It certainly isn't for us successful TFers
 
2014-03-14 04:32:49 PM
Considering the number of movies I watch through Amazon Prime, I am far into the black even with the new rate.

Slate fails at math. Gee, what a surprise.
 
2014-03-14 04:57:04 PM
Its worth the money still

Why are people biatching about a $20 dollar price increase? Free two day shipping alone is worth $100 a year indeed.
 
2014-03-14 05:12:14 PM
I take classes at the local community college so I get my prime half off (as a student).

Boo-Ya!
 
2014-03-14 05:20:52 PM
They should still have a $79 option for people who don't want access to their video and e-book libraries.
 
2014-03-14 05:37:07 PM
Prime was a win-win. I ordered a lot more after I got it. I'll probably keep it after the increase.
 
2014-03-14 05:40:15 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: 202 orders... if 3/4 were Prime (that's probably low) I still save about $400. I'd call that worth the money.


I had 186 orders last year. Even if only a quarter of them were prime eligible, It was still worth it compared to the regular shipping price of $3.99. And let's be honest... free super saver shipping turned to shiat last year, so that really stopped being worth it, especially after they jacked the qualifying price up to $35.
 
2014-03-14 05:41:17 PM
You can share your Amazon Prime with four other people, or at least you used to be able to.  Did they factor that in?  If not, then along with speed and streaming content that's three things they're not accounting for.  Worthless article.  Very worthless.
 
2014-03-14 05:42:16 PM
With 25 order and probably 3/4 Prime eligible-

Without Prime, you would pay at least $3.99 per shipment.
At $79 per year (Prime's old fee), you would pay $4.16 per shipment.
At $99 per year (Prime's new fee), you would pay $4.96 per shipment.


Convenience- priceless
 
2014-03-14 05:42:55 PM
Still saves me money.

Someone has to stimulate this economy and by god, I'm doing my best....
 
2014-03-14 05:46:38 PM
Last year one of the things I ordered was a Dahon Mariner D7 folding bike that has a shipping weight of 36 pounds and is eligible for Prime shipping. That alone probably was worth the membership. And a majority of my other 38 Amazon orders in 2013 was eligible as well.
 
2014-03-14 05:47:24 PM
I think I'm still reaping the benefits when I ordered my kid's entire room full of stuff from prime. Mattress, crib, rocker, changing table, everything. Plus my TV and untold numbers of smaller stuff. Still worth it.
 
2014-03-14 05:47:43 PM
Wow, it's kind of impressive... one "OMGZ AMAZON RAISING RATE NOT WORTH IT WTF BBQ" greenlight every day this whole week.

Are these sponsored links?

Get over it, whatever "it" is.
 
2014-03-14 05:48:29 PM

InterruptingQuirk: Is it taking into account that Amazon Prime shipments may be increasing the price for Prime members in order to secretly cover that two day ship?


Except that they're not, and that's straight up crap.
 
2014-03-14 05:49:36 PM
Give me back my non add on add on items.

/let me add on one more add on. add on.
 
2014-03-14 05:49:54 PM
Yes. Prime will save you money.
You order enough Prime-eligible items that you will save money on shipping costs alone.
Without Prime, you would pay at least $3.99 per shipment.
At $79 per year (Prime's old fee), you would pay $2.63 per shipment.
At $99 per year (Prime's new fee), you would pay $3.30 per shipment.
 
2014-03-14 05:50:29 PM
It's still worth it to not find myself in a shopping center between Thanksgiving and Christmas.
 
2014-03-14 05:51:22 PM
25 orders or more = worth it.  Plus, Amazon started charging VA sales tax for all orders shipped there... but DC still doesn't.  So I just have everything I order shipped to my work address in DC (along with everyone else who lives in VA and works here.)

/Mailroom folks don't mind, the more packages they deliver the bigger budget they get
 
2014-03-14 05:51:35 PM

unlikely: InterruptingQuirk: Is it taking into account that Amazon Prime shipments may be increasing the price for Prime members in order to secretly cover that two day ship?

Except that they're not, and that's straight up crap.


Also, please don't post to auto play sites. Me and my phone just got into a fight.
 
2014-03-14 05:51:41 PM
Hah, says its not only worth it, but I'm halving my shipping costs. I don't know what subby is talking about.
 
2014-03-14 05:51:42 PM
Says it worth it for me.  I use the Prime video streaming (and occasionally the Kindle lending library), too, so yahtzee!
 
2014-03-14 05:54:36 PM
Yeah, it is.,even before considering the alternative of going to the mall or looking all over town comparing prices or just trying to find a place that even carries what I'm looking for.
 
2014-03-14 05:55:05 PM
Just went to check, in the last six months I have eleven pages of orders with between 13 and 21 items per page, almost all with prime two day shipping, add in all the movies and books I borrow through prime...


/maybe I should wear a mask and hold a pistol while I renew
 
2014-03-14 05:55:24 PM
Worth it.
 
2014-03-14 05:55:26 PM

Triumph: They should still have a $79 option for people who don't want access to their video and e-book libraries.


They probably use those people to balance out the folks that DO use 'em.
 
2014-03-14 05:55:53 PM
When utilizing video services AND the shipping, it is still far worth it.
 
2014-03-14 05:56:28 PM
It says worth it for me, but I'm still cancelling. Free Super Saver is plenty good enough.
 
2014-03-14 05:57:27 PM
Assuming your shipments cost $3.99...

These people have absolutely no idea what they're talking about... Seriously, a cursory Google search shows that the average per/item for two day runs about 8 bucks, meaning if you do about... oh 12 orders/year you're already in the black.
 
2014-03-14 05:58:21 PM

DamnYankees: I also did not attempt to estimate the cash value of Prime's catalog of e-books, movies, and the like.

Ummm...fail. Makes the whole thing pointless.


So much this.  Netflix is $96/yr, Prime is $99.  Many will argue that NFLX has the stronger content catalog, but I'd only agree with that on a marginal basis (and the gap is closing).  So even if you consider Prime Instant HALF as good as Netflix (which is grossly unfair), you've only got to come up with $50 worth of shipping benefits, or about 25 items' worth according to this "calculator" to make the subscription worth it. 

Not considering Prime Instant's value means this widget is absolute booty.
 
2014-03-14 05:58:34 PM
Am I the only one here who uses Super Saver Shipping?

Because it seems to me that if one is a little patient, one can leech off of the inventory and delivery infrastructure paid for by others.

As long as the orders total more than $35 each, of course.  Which they always do.
 
2014-03-14 05:58:38 PM
even without the streaming, it's the greatest thing in the world.
subby is a moron and/or needs to support the economy and buy more stuff.

i once bought and shipped a full size woodchip smoker across the country to my father for his birthday.  the fed-ex quote alone would have been $400.

you people spend $90 / year on porn and/or beer.  how is this even an issue?!
 
2014-03-14 05:58:48 PM
25 shipments is the break-even on shipping costs alone.
 
2014-03-14 06:01:02 PM

GleeUnit: DamnYankees: I also did not attempt to estimate the cash value of Prime's catalog of e-books, movies, and the like.

Ummm...fail. Makes the whole thing pointless.

So much this.  Netflix is $96/yr, Prime is $99.  Many will argue that NFLX has the stronger content catalog, but I'd only agree with that on a marginal basis (and the gap is closing).  So even if you consider Prime Instant HALF as good as Netflix (which is grossly unfair), you've only got to come up with $50 worth of shipping benefits, or about 25

13 items' worth according to this "calculator" to make the subscription worth it. 

Not considering Prime Instant's value means this widget is absolute booty.


/oops
 
2014-03-14 06:03:04 PM
I had 52 - frankly I thought it would be more. But like I said yesterday - if they went to $300 for prime I'd probably pay it. And if they canceled prime I'd still probably buy 90% of the shiat I buy at amazon. Their selection and customer service and general convenience is so far out in front of everyone else there's no one in the rear view mirror.
 
2014-03-14 06:03:11 PM

GrailOfThunder: Triumph: They should still have a $79 option for people who don't want access to their video and e-book libraries.

They probably use those people to balance out the folks that DO use 'em.


Exactly, but retail isn't health insurance. I'm not here to subsidize.
 
2014-03-14 06:03:34 PM
This is horribly misleading.  You might be able to ship a business card for 3.99 but that's about it.  Also, 2 day shipping costs a lot more.  Add in the free video service, and it's still a great deal.
 
2014-03-14 06:03:51 PM
According to that calculator, I saved $1755.60.
 
2014-03-14 06:04:39 PM
Amazon sent me a handwritten Christmas card a few years ago.
 
2014-03-14 06:05:05 PM

cman: Its worth the money still

Why are people biatching about a $20 dollar price increase? Free two day shipping alone is worth $100 a year indeed.


I have no farking idea. It was the same goddam price for eight years. It barely matches inflation over that period.
 
2014-03-14 06:05:55 PM
You can still gift it to yourself for $79 for up to a year in advance
 
2014-03-14 06:06:25 PM

jylcat: Totally worth it. $0.31 per shipment currently and $0.38 per shipment after the price rise.


My math says that's ~255 shipments in a year. Basically every single weekday. Do they deliver your lunch or something?
 
2014-03-14 06:06:31 PM
It would be worth it if Amazon was more like it used to be, a vendor, not what it has become, ebay with a different front end. It seems half the stuff i need isnt actually sold by Amazon, and thus is not eligible for the prim shipping.
 
2014-03-14 06:07:06 PM
Uh.. Do you mean Amazon Prime, subby?

I use my father's account, everyone in our fam does.

/yes you can do that
 
2014-03-14 06:07:14 PM
I didn't order a large quantity of items last year, but all of them were large and bulky. $3.99 per isn't even close to what my shipping  would have cost. I saved a lot of cash on that, beyond the access to movies, etc.
 
2014-03-14 06:07:22 PM
I never pay shipping. I never have ordered anything on amazon that I needed right away. I add stuff I want to my cart and when it gets to $50+ I put the order in.
 
2014-03-14 06:07:33 PM

Empty H: unlikely: InterruptingQuirk: Is it taking into account that Amazon Prime shipments may be increasing the price for Prime members in order to secretly cover that two day ship?

Except that they're not, and that's straight up crap.

Also, please don't post to auto play sites. Me and my phone just got into a fight.


Sorry.
 
2014-03-14 06:08:12 PM

Parthenogenetic: Am I the only one here who uses Super Saver Shipping?

Because it seems to me that if one is a little patient, one can leech off of the inventory and delivery infrastructure paid for by others.

As long as the orders total more than $35 each, of course.  Which they always do.


I did, but I found it to get worse and take longer than I preferred. And the raise to 35 bucks per order is what made me try prime.

Well, that and VA sales tax being added.
 
2014-03-14 06:09:39 PM
What's "Amazon"?
 
2014-03-14 06:10:40 PM
Now that The Americans was picked up by Amazon Instant, it's totally worth it for me. I also did 37 orders last year, not counting the other family members I have tied to my account to get the shipping benefits.
 
2014-03-14 06:11:31 PM

antidisestablishmentarianism: Isn't it still cheaper than Netflix?


Nope. Netflix is $8 per month, which comes out to $96 per year.
 
2014-03-14 06:12:08 PM
Even using his rough calculator it says my 51 orders last year were worth it.... BUT - it then also says that he's using $3.99 as the shipping price. Amazon Prime is free 2-day shipping (and as many have mentioned I got a lot of those shipments in 1 day).

In what world does he get 2 day shipping on anything for $3.99? And one of those 51 orders of mine I got with 2-day prime shipping was a goddamn wheelbarrow! Prime, even at $99 is well worth the money to me.
 
2014-03-14 06:12:25 PM
seeing as how i maybe saved $20 in shipping last year (i buy in the single digits from amazon) and seeing as how their movie catalog had me interested in about 20 movies last year, NO i did not renew 2 weeks ago.  i only got it to begin with because i had a $50 gift certificate from xmas.  if the unlimited streaming were better, then sure i'd do it.  but it isnt so i wont.

/also not a kindler
 
2014-03-14 06:15:28 PM
I spent $11,000 on 134 orders in 2013 ... this link just ruined my weekend
 
2014-03-14 06:15:54 PM
Also, remember, half the time (most of the time) Prime is cheaper than tax on many items.
 
2014-03-14 06:15:54 PM
Still worth it for me.
 
2014-03-14 06:17:08 PM

Cerebral Ballsy: Uh.. Do you mean Amazon Prime, subby?

I use my father's account, everyone in our fam does.

/yes you can do that


Yup. My mom and sister also use my Prime membership. And their widget doesn't account for those orders.
 
2014-03-14 06:17:30 PM

Parthenogenetic: Am I the only one here who uses Super Saver Shipping?

Because it seems to me that if one is a little patient, one can leech off of the inventory and delivery infrastructure paid for by others.

As long as the orders total more than $35 each, of course.  Which they always do.


And this. I rarely use anything except Super Saver. The last time I didn't though (replacement headlight bulbs), it cost a whole $5 more total for 2 of them from Amazon than I would have paid in a B&M for one. Prime would have saved me $22 in that case, but I typically don't buy enough and need it quickly enough to justify it.
 
2014-03-14 06:19:07 PM
Subscribe & Save whenever possible, super saver the rest of the time

The 15% off you get for 5 items or more on S&S comes out to big big savings for me. If I only have 2 items shipping in a month I'll find 3 things like toothpaste, facewash and aspirin and throw them in there for that discount.
 
2014-03-14 06:19:30 PM

skinink: Last year one of the things I ordered was a Dahon Mariner D7 folding bike that has a shipping weight of 36 pounds and is eligible for Prime shipping. That alone probably was worth the membership. And a majority of my other 38 Amazon orders in 2013 was eligible as well.


Nice! I ended up getting a Citizen Gotham 7 folding bike.  Cheaper, but it didn't include shipping.
 
2014-03-14 06:19:45 PM
It's two day shipping.
My primary video
Streaming service, too.
 
2014-03-14 06:22:51 PM

Mhal9000: I didn't order a large quantity of items last year, but all of them were large and bulky. $3.99 per isn't even close to what my shipping  would have cost. I saved a lot of cash on that, beyond the access to movies, etc.


This!  My last order from them was a 44-lb piece of furniture.  I don't even want to know how much that would have cost to ship
 
2014-03-14 06:23:51 PM

Ponzholio: With 25 order and probably 3/4 Prime eligible-

Without Prime, you would pay at least $3.99 per shipment.
At $79 per year (Prime's old fee), you would pay $4.16 per shipment.
At $99 per year (Prime's new fee), you would pay $4.96 per shipment.


Convenience- priceless


And that doesn't even include streaming or Kindle Lending Library or the the being nice to a family member and sharing Prime shipping with them. Etc.

If you don't want the streaming, find a family member who does and share the cost with them. Let them have the main prime account that has streaming/Kindle Lending Library and have them share the shipping with you. Win-Win.
 
2014-03-14 06:26:23 PM

HeartBurnKid: antidisestablishmentarianism: Isn't it still cheaper than Netflix?

Nope. Netflix is $8 per month, which comes out to $96 per year.


For $3 difference Amazon is still worth it. I wish Netflix would let you pay for movies they don't have available for free streaming like Amazon does. Which reminds me that I need to watch House of Cards.
 
2014-03-14 06:28:45 PM

Marcus Aurelius: It depends on how much you buy from Amazon.

I buy a ridiculous quantity of things from Amazon.


^^^^^^
 
2014-03-14 06:30:06 PM

whynotisright: Mhal9000: I didn't order a large quantity of items last year, but all of them were large and bulky. $3.99 per isn't even close to what my shipping  would have cost. I saved a lot of cash on that, beyond the access to movies, etc.

This!  My last order from them was a 44-lb piece of furniture.  I don't even want to know how much that would have cost to ship


Okay, I did check.  $44 standard delivery/$55 2-day.
 
2014-03-14 06:30:52 PM
I find widget lacking. It assumes that one order means one item with one shipping charge. I have plenty of 8-9 item orders that would have had a shipping charge for every item.
 
2014-03-14 06:33:48 PM
If I can't wait a week, I can drive to get it. Never saw a reason to bother with prime before the rate hike.
 
2014-03-14 06:34:02 PM
A lot of stuff I buy from Amazon isn't from Amazon. Will I still get the shipping deal if I'm purchasing midget porn from Joe's Bargain Bazaar in New Jersey?
 
2014-03-14 06:35:09 PM

antidisestablishmentarianism: I wish Netflix would let you pay for movies they don't have available for free streaming like Amazon does. Which reminds me that I need to watch House of Cards.


Is it cheaper to buy/rent from Amazon if you have Prime?  If not can't you just use Netflix for their library and if you really want to stream something they don't have buy it from Amazonz?
 
2014-03-14 06:35:45 PM

DanZero: Is this for Slate writers? It certainly isn't for us successful TFers


I used to be a savvy investor like you. I'm a smart mark, I can smell a good deal.
 
2014-03-14 06:37:29 PM
My huge ottoman and book shelf covered the prime cost by themselves, then there's the other 53 orders and a few next day shippings. Plus I canceled cable years ago and use prime almost exclusively. Wife pays for Netflix I canceled mine before I met her when I used Amazon more.

Yeah worth it and the Wii U streaming app rocks.
 
2014-03-14 06:37:45 PM
Once the market is cornered they will get their money just like every other large company. Enjoy it while it lasts.
 
2014-03-14 06:39:18 PM
What are you guys buying multiple times per week?
 
2014-03-14 06:39:25 PM
5 orders in 2009
15 orders in 2010
30 orders in 2011
59 orders in 2012
73 orders in 2013
28 so far in 2014 (on pace for 140 orders this year)

I would say it is worth at least $250/yr for me.

Plus, all those free upgrades to speedier shipping are awesome.

in 2010 I ordered a $500 rooftop Yakima Skybox Pro 21 - free two day shipping. Awesome. Non prime sellers wanted not only more for the skybox itself, for they also wanted an extra $149 for 6-7 day shipping, lol

/today is exactly the 1/5th point of the year (73/365) . Cool.
 
2014-03-14 06:40:36 PM
Free advertising for Amazon Prime!  Reverse psychology works again!  The savings in shipping are worth it for me.  The video, I have to give a thumbs down.  I use it because it's there, but it's pretty embarrassing on Amazon's part.

Prime video just has too many flaws for me to consider it much of a benefit.  The library is slow to get updated content, and often times the new (or newly released) stuff isn't that great and/or it's already available on other services by the time I notice it on Amazon.Overall, from my perspective and taste, Netflix and other services' libraries are significantly better.

Just as importantly, and possibly more, the usability on Prime video is almost a text book case of what not to do.  Their data is horribly inaccurate, so it makes the filters relatively useless.  The release dates on a lot of older items are completely screwed.  It means when I'm looking for new stuff, the results are inundated with very old movies, and conversely, if I'm in the mood for older stuff, it means a lot of it doesn't show up when I try to filter for it.  What I really hate the most is how they make it so hard to rate movies.  I want to give it 3 stars.  I should be able to do that on my Bluray player or Roku.  I shouldn't have to write a review, and I shouldn't have to log into my computer to do it.  Screw that.
 
2014-03-14 06:40:45 PM
Totally worth it. Free two-day shipping plus free Amazon streaming? I buy stuff from Amazon probably 50 times a year. I'd save money if it was $150 a year.
 
2014-03-14 06:42:24 PM
If streaming to TiVo was included with the package, I'd take it in a minute.
 
2014-03-14 06:42:54 PM
Well, considering I pay the student price and last year I order 52 items it's still worth it.


It runs out in a week, but too bad I'm a typical broke college student so I can't afford to renew.
 
2014-03-14 06:43:00 PM
If amazon would nicely let me stream to my android phone or non-kindle tablet, it would be worth it even more. That's the only thing pissing me off.
 
2014-03-14 06:43:33 PM
Gazillions of people paid the (now former) rate and only got free 2 day shipping.

Now, you get free 2 day shipping and quite a few movies/tv shows for free on top of that.

There's no way that Amazon could continue their Netflix-like model and not raise the price.
 
2014-03-14 06:44:46 PM

Man On A Mission: Considering the number of movies I watch through Amazon Prime, I am far into the black even with the new rate.

Slate fails at math. Gee, what a surprise.


Eh, I'm pretty sure I've watched the ten decent movies they have already.
 
2014-03-14 06:46:06 PM

MrHappyRotter: Free advertising for Amazon Prime!  Reverse psychology works again!  The savings in shipping are worth it for me.  The video, I have to give a thumbs down.  I use it because it's there, but it's pretty embarrassing on Amazon's part.

Prime video just has too many flaws for me to consider it much of a benefit.  The library is slow to get updated content, and often times the new (or newly released) stuff isn't that great and/or it's already available on other services by the time I notice it on Amazon.Overall, from my perspective and taste, Netflix and other services' libraries are significantly better.

Just as importantly, and possibly more, the usability on Prime video is almost a text book case of what not to do.  Their data is horribly inaccurate, so it makes the filters relatively useless.  The release dates on a lot of older items are completely screwed.  It means when I'm looking for new stuff, the results are inundated with very old movies, and conversely, if I'm in the mood for older stuff, it means a lot of it doesn't show up when I try to filter for it.  What I really hate the most is how they make it so hard to rate movies.  I want to give it 3 stars.  I should be able to do that on my Bluray player or Roku.  I shouldn't have to write a review, and I shouldn't have to log into my computer to do it.  Screw that.


Plus, because they're coming out with a set top box, it won't run native on Apple TV. I have to stream it from my phone using AirPlay. It works, but it's not optimal.
 
2014-03-14 06:46:46 PM
Not worth it for the shipping alone, but cheaper than buying every season of Super Why, Dinosaur Train, Diego and every Thomas the Train movie ever made for my son.  The bonus is I'm not stuck with 27 separate DVD's once he's outgrown them.  This doesn't include the stuff the adults in the house watch.  In other words: still on par with Netflix and includes 2-day shipping.
 
2014-03-14 06:48:20 PM
Oh, and $75 per year in 2005 is $89 per year today when you adjust for inflation. So you're paying $10 per year extra for free access to Amazon streaming TV movies. Watch two movies, it pays for itself.
 
2014-03-14 06:48:48 PM
The widget says it is worth it.
It saves me so money and time. Gas is $3.55 a gallon. It doesn't take much in the way of running around town looking for stuff for it to cost me much more than whatever I pay through Amazon.
Plus streaming. We stream movies several days a week.
Plus recurring subscriptions. I save $12.00 a month on cat food alone through Amazon and it comes straight to my door without me having to do anything.
 
2014-03-14 06:50:03 PM
Besides the shipping, this is reason enough!

Just picked up for series:


Link
 
2014-03-14 06:50:38 PM
i currently have a free trial of the student prime, but you can't take advantage of streaming.  i would sign-up for regular prime though if the amazon app worked with chromecast.  yes i know you can cast the tab, but it doesn't seem to work all that great.
 
2014-03-14 06:50:45 PM
Products available from Amazon that I buy/use: MP3 albums and AWS.

Probably not worth the money, my shipping's already free. :-/
 
2014-03-14 06:51:11 PM
Last time I looked, Primers get all the episodes, with the great jokes at the end.


www.comedyquotes.tv
 
2014-03-14 06:53:32 PM

astouffer: What are you guys buying multiple times per week?


Its the new economy

Online buying for regular things is normal now. Amazon has a LOT of regular items.

/Still waiting for them to sell real soda
 
2014-03-14 06:54:57 PM

Nefarious:
Is it cheaper to buy/rent from Amazon if you have Prime?  If not can't you just use Netflix for their library and if you really want to stream something they don't have buy it from Amazonz?


A lot of Prime video's are free, I'm not sure if the renting is cheaper with prime but it probably isn't.

MrHappyRotter: Prime video just has too many flaws for me to consider it much of a benefit.


I agree, the UI is awful. If you can work with it I think Prime instant is a better deal for those of us who are cord cutters and don't want to wait for certain shows to be free on Netflix or Hulu.
 
2014-03-14 06:56:31 PM
Totally worth it.
 
2014-03-14 07:01:20 PM

InterruptingQuirk: Is it taking into account that Amazon Prime shipments may be increasing the price for Prime members in order to secretly cover that two day ship?


Yes, it's considering that there are people in the world who are idiots and aren't familiar with the way Amazon has priced things for, well, a f*cking DECADE now.
 
2014-03-14 07:03:22 PM

Triumph: They should still have a $79 option for people who don't want access to their video and e-book libraries.


I would agree with this, but there actually might be some sort of negative impact that is unforseen. For example, that puts a "price" on their online streaming services. Given the way Hollywood works, they may take that as a sign that Amazon is undercutting competition.
 
2014-03-14 07:04:31 PM
Is Amazon Prime Worth It?
Yes. Prime will save you money.
You order enough Prime-eligible items that you will save money on shipping costs alone.
Without Prime, you would pay at least $3.99 per shipment.
At $79 per year (Prime's old fee), you would pay $1.89 per shipment.
At $99 per year (Prime's new fee), you would pay $2.11 per shipment.


Plus it's 2 day shipping as opposed to 4-5 day standard shipping.
Plus cheap upgrades to 1 day shipping.
Plus borrowing free Kindle books.
Plus Amazon Prime Video.

Sorry subby, your analysis doesn't hold up.
 
2014-03-14 07:06:56 PM
Apparently I run around 120 items per year the last few years.

So ya, totally worth it.
 
2014-03-14 07:07:08 PM

cman: Its worth the money still

Why are people biatching about a $20 dollar price increase? Free two day shipping alone is worth $100 a year indeed.



You didn't read the link someone posted earlier.  There are allegations that Amazon encourages its vendors to increase the price of an item to cover the shipping charge, thus giving Amazon higher "referral fees." If true, then you likely already pay for the two-day shipping in the item price, and you're really just paying Amazon a premium to shop there (and watch its very restricted selection of streaming content).

Prime isn't worth it at $79, let alone $99.
 
2014-03-14 07:11:25 PM

InterruptingQuirk: Is it taking into account that Amazon Prime shipments may be increasing the price for Prime members in order to secretly cover that two day ship?


I have checked, via TOR and anonymous browsing VM, that my Prime prices are the same as they are when I'm logged into my account.

Anecdotal, but I check again every time I see someone bring it up.  I just spot checked a couple items, and they're the same price in both places.
 
2014-03-14 07:11:34 PM
According to that calculator, they could double the new price and it would still be worth it for me.
 
2014-03-14 07:11:50 PM
This says it's definitely worth it for me, but it seems to be ignoring the free shipping often available to non-Prime users. I'm not ordering a fire extinguisher, so that's fine. Frankly, with their awesome distribution system, it's not much different than ground shipping. I made my last order Monday evening. An hour and a half later, I thought of something else, canceled it, and reordered with the addition to sneak onto the free shipping. Since it seems like they deliberately sit on FSSS orders for at least a day, I have assumed this option goes away with a prime 2 day order (and doesn't that have a minimum now too)? Anyway, it was delivered today. I guess prime would have gotten it here at least by yesterday, maybe the day before (the order was well after business hours anywhere in north america). I still got the stuff - one of which I really won't be able to deal with until tomorrow anyway.
 
2014-03-14 07:13:17 PM

cman: astouffer: What are you guys buying multiple times per week?

Its the new economy

Online buying for regular things is normal now. Amazon has a LOT of regular items.

/Still waiting for them to sell real soda


 They sell my favorite hippie dippy health food store Blue Sky gingerale, a lot cheaper than in the store too, so I'm happy on that front.

/haven't been to Wal-Mart in at least six months, buy all that stuff on Amazon now
 
2014-03-14 07:14:18 PM

golden goat: You didn't read the link someone posted earlier.  There are allegations that Amazon encourages its vendors to increase the price of an item to cover the shipping charge, thus giving Amazon higher "referral fees." If true, then you likely already pay for the two-day shipping in the item price, and you're really just paying Amazon a premium to shop there (and watch its very restricted selection of streaming content).

Prime isn't worth it at $79, let alone $99.


img.fark.net
 
2014-03-14 07:14:50 PM

golden goat: You didn't read the link someone posted earlier.


I did, and it's a load of shiat.

In fact, Amazon has probably lost more money by fulfilling vendors who sell at Amazon's regular prices when they sell out of an item than they've made by "coercing" anyone to do anything.
 
2014-03-14 07:18:17 PM

Molavian: Amazon sent me a handwritten Christmas card a few years ago.


Hint: No it wasn't. You can make them look handwritten. We did it last Christmas too.
 
2014-03-14 07:20:14 PM
I do wish that they would release their video app for Android though. I know they're trying to coerce Android users over into the Kindle Fire sandbox but I'm quite happy with my Nexus tablet and don't want their locked down version of Android.
 
2014-03-14 07:20:17 PM

Psylence: Still saves me money.

Someone has to stimulate this economy and by god, I'm doing my best....


Then you should have bought locally. The money you spent went for taxes that paid for schools, roads and other communal expenses.

It also kept buisness open that employed people who also paid taxes and helped people remain sufficient and kept your community from looking like a bombed out mess.

But you saved a few bucks and waited to get what you paid for.
 
2014-03-14 07:20:43 PM
I live in a small town, and prime shipped items sometimes get to me in one day.

As long as it is an item at least as big as a loaf of bread, and it is a mainstream item.  For example a new motherboard or power supply.

Weird stuff like semi rare books, or legacy connectors for old computers, it takes the full two days.  I have learned most small items are going to be USPS and not UPS or FedEX.

I stream a lot of movies or tv also.

$99 prime is still worth it.
 
2014-03-14 07:21:54 PM
You can still split the shipping among four people, so considering that even with the price increase you're only going to be paying around $25 or less each... It's worth it. You also get the streaming service, and if you decide to go with that, Netflix, & Hulu Plus while cutting your cable, it's a HUGE savings.
 
2014-03-14 07:22:51 PM

rynthetyn: I do wish that they would release their video app for Android though. I know they're trying to coerce Android users over into the Kindle Fire sandbox but I'm quite happy with my Nexus tablet and don't want their locked down version of Android.


It probably is more of the same reason the Netflix app doesn't work on all Android phones.

Android users are dirty thieves and can easily circumvent the DRM.
 
2014-03-14 07:25:00 PM
What the hell are people buying all the time from Amazon. I live in a pretty pricey area and Target is usually cheaper even if Amazon doesn't collect sales tax.

My guess is you have to have a family for it to be really worth it.
 
2014-03-14 07:29:10 PM
100%, totally worth it. A few dozen orders, plus a few streaming movies and a couple of shows for the kids = very, very worth it.

/what's subby smoking?
 
2014-03-14 07:31:52 PM
They comp me mine. But I generate six figures business with them.
 
2014-03-14 07:34:55 PM
Also nice when Xmas or birthdays show up unexpectedly (you'd think I'd remember) that 2day shipping comes in handy.
 
2014-03-14 07:35:03 PM
I bought a big-screen TV through Prime, so free shipping.  That alone probably paid for a few years' worth.

\and the shipping on a 26 foot extension ladder = few more
 
2014-03-14 07:35:17 PM
Yes
 
2014-03-14 07:36:23 PM
Anyone know where they get their $3.99/shipment number? And if that's a two-day shipping value?

Even though some things are > $35, I'd rather pay $99/yr to Amazon and have things come to my door in 2 days, than buy from Best Buy or B&N.
 
2014-03-14 07:38:23 PM
It's totally worth it. I buy a lot of "man-toys"...
 
2014-03-14 07:39:02 PM
NSTAFS
 
2014-03-14 07:40:18 PM
It has completely replaced TV for me. Shipping is an afterthought.

Worth it.
 
2014-03-14 07:42:47 PM
I had 89 orders in 2013, which comes to $1.11. This isn't counting movies and tv streaming. This also isn't counting sharing your account with 4 family members, and all their orders (like my wife). I order for home and 3 small companies.
 
2014-03-14 07:42:50 PM

MustardTiger: It's totally worth it. I buy a lot of "man-toys"...


You gonna just leave that curveball hanging out over the middle of the plate like that?
 
2014-03-14 07:43:03 PM

Solid State Vittles: You can share your Amazon Prime with four other people, or at least you used to be able to.  Did they factor that in?  If not, then along with speed and streaming content that's three things they're not accounting for.  Worthless article.  Very worthless.


No, they didn't.   But they should have.

Bonus?  You don't have to share the same account, so my wife gets to keep her streaming library and I get to keep mine so our recommendations don't get all out of whack.

/Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants.  Seriously, honey?
 
2014-03-14 07:44:33 PM
Worth it by a huge margin.
 
2014-03-14 07:45:39 PM

unlikely: InterruptingQuirk: Is it taking into account that Amazon Prime shipments may be increasing the price for Prime members in order to secretly cover that two day ship?

Except that they're not, and that's straight up crap.


I've gone on there not signed in and saw one price, then logged in and saw a slightly higher price. Maybe it's not intentional, but I've seen it happen multiple times.
 
2014-03-14 07:46:59 PM
my results:

Without Prime, you would pay at least $3.99 per shipment.
At $79 per year (Prime's old fee), you would pay $Infinity per shipment.
At $99 per year (Prime's new fee), you would pay $Infinity per shipment.
 
2014-03-14 07:52:01 PM

Intrepid00: What the hell are people buying all the time from Amazon. I live in a pretty pricey area and Target is usually cheaper even if Amazon doesn't collect sales tax.

My guess is you have to have a family for it to be really worth it.


I buy all kinds of things from Amazon or online in general: deodorants, soaps, stuff for the dog, sometimes clothes, electronics, gifts.  The list goes on.

I wish I lived in your pricey area if Target is usually cheaper than Amazon, because that's pretty much never the case in my experience.  It seems like most everything I'd consider buying online is noticeably less expensive to get through Amazon (even factoring in shipping costs) compared to buying them at Target, Walmart, Petsmart, Lowe's, or Home Depot.

But also, in a lot cases it's easier to get the exact brand and variety of whatever item I'm looking for if I get it on Amazon.  Otherwise, I either have to make the decision to pick up whatever random brands the stores in my area offer, or I have to drive around the city to many different stores.  Honestly, for a lot of stuff, I'm not particular, but for the few things I am particular about, it's nice that I don't have to deal with the annoying, expensive and time consuming prospect of driving all over the city, dealing with traffic, wasting gas, and giving up my free time to do something I don't have to.
 
2014-03-14 07:52:44 PM
Yeah, we saved about 50% on shipping.  This doesn't include the fact that that we stream movies all the freaking time, the fact that my daughter gets her Sesame Street viewing on prime, and the fact that a good percent (10-25%) is weight-based shipping.

I figured it out for 2012, and rental fees for movies alone were in the $500-700 range.  Weight based shipping was another couple hundred, and we didn't stream nearly as much as we did in 2013.
 
2014-03-14 07:55:57 PM
Anything but SmartPost. It seems like they sit on orders for a few days without prime.
 
2014-03-14 07:57:21 PM

Marcus Aurelius: InterruptingQuirk: Is it taking into account that Amazon Prime shipments may be increasing the price for Prime members in order to secretly cover that two day ship?

I have checked, via TOR and anonymous browsing VM, that my Prime prices are the same as they are when I'm logged into my account.

Anecdotal, but I check again every time I see someone bring it up.  I just spot checked a couple items, and they're the same price in both places.


I occasionally browse Amazon on a device that I'm not logged into. When I do go to long into my Prime account to order said item I've never seen a difference in price.

Intrepid00: What the hell are people buying all the time from Amazon. I live in a pretty pricey area and Target is usually cheaper even if Amazon doesn't collect sales tax.

My guess is you have to have a family for it to be really worth it.


Amazon has a shiat ton more items for sale than any local store, big box or not.  If the price is close enough (say, within 10%) and I want it that day I'll go to a store and buy it, assuming a local store carries it. If it's significantly cheaper online or if what I want isn't available at a local store then I'll order it.

I'm a tech geek and work in a specialty trade. Many things I want aren't carried in store. For example, I recently did a complete audio upgrade in my car. My local stores have an awful selection of speakers, head units, install kits, etc. Using Amazon I got the exact speakers I wanted (at half price since I found open box items on Amazon for the exact ones I wanted. Lucky me.), the install kit and wiring harness adapter, the fuse holder, fuses, high quality signal wire, and trim removal tools that I wanted. Absolutely zero of those items were available locally, save for the head unit. I bought that at BestBuy because the price was close enough. Best Buy had a different install kit for the head unit but it didn't have the pocket in it that I wanted.

I made 92 orders in 2013. It was worth it to me, not even counting the streaming service.
 
2014-03-14 07:59:27 PM
I looked at my Amazon orders from 2013: 75 orders, 163 items. Yup, Prime is definitely worth it to me.
 
2014-03-14 08:00:52 PM
The real question: Is Ponoko Prime worth it?
 
2014-03-14 08:01:40 PM
I redid my kitchen last year and bought a refrigerator on Amazon.  Free two day shipping.  Appliance stores wanted $150 for shipping.    That's not counting the other 71 orders I apparently placed.   I'll probably hit 200 this year as I now order dog food and deodorant on there.  Pretty much anything I can get on Amazon I do.

And I use the video service.  Currently watching Whitechapel.
 
2014-03-14 08:03:03 PM
these people are crazy. 3.99 an order? I've ordered 20 pound bags of pet food and gotten in 1 day. the shipping on one of those would be like 20.
 
2014-03-14 08:04:41 PM

CruJones: I redid my kitchen last year and bought a refrigerator on Amazon.  Free two day shipping.  Appliance stores wanted $150 for shipping.    That's not counting the other 71 orders I apparently placed.   I'll probably hit 200 this year as I now order dog food and deodorant on there.  Pretty much anything I can get on Amazon I do.

And I use the video service.  Currently watching Whitechapel.


i would of paid 20 or 30 to watch that john goodman show they made. that didn't get nearly enough press.

the scheduled auto ship stuff is awesome.
 
2014-03-14 08:05:07 PM
US just gave up control of the Internet. I wonder how this will affect net commerce
 
2014-03-14 08:07:41 PM

Intrepid00: Molavian: Amazon sent me a handwritten Christmas card a few years ago.

Hint: No it wasn't. You can make them look handwritten. We did it last Christmas too.


Ok.
 
2014-03-14 08:08:01 PM
I have been guilty more than I'd like to admit of "drunk Priming."   I like getting a package I forgot I ordered and finding a Death Star bourbon ball maker.  That was overnighted.   Because when I really don't need something, I need it tomorrow.
 
2014-03-14 08:10:10 PM

Triumph: They should still have a $79 option for people who don't want access to their video and e-book libraries.


Deal!

Never found one thing on Free Prime list that I wanted to watch that wasn't also on Netflix. So I've watched exactly zero.

And while my kid demanded a Kindle, I don't even want a soft-kindle on my netbook.  I have enough crap that wants to phone home all the time to add another spy.
 
2014-03-14 08:11:02 PM

FarkinBastard: Anything but SmartPost. It seems like they sit on orders for a few days without prime.


I've noticed for the past 6 - 12 months that an increasing percentage of my orders arrive a day or two after the delivery estimate.  I didn't blame that on Amazon, but it's been a problem with all 3 of the major carriers that Amazon uses (USPS, UPS, FedEx).

Sometimes packages just sit for days on end at the departure city.  There have been times when the tracking slip shows the item as out for delivery for a couple of days in a row.  Sometimes the tracking will state that the package has been delivered, when it wasn't, and then it gets delivered the next day.  The last time a package was delayed, UPS claimed they tried to deliver it but I wasn't home (completely untrue, I was home sick all day, practically parked in front of the door, not to mention that every other time a delivery is made and I'm not home, they deliver it to the front office).

I'm guessing the major carriers have shifted to placing more weight on on-time deliveries, so the drivers are circumventing the metrics by claiming packages are delivered (or delivery attempts were made when they weren't) to help their numbers out.  In fact, it seems to just be making service and promptness worse.
 
2014-03-14 08:11:03 PM
83 orders last year.  Still worth it.
 
2014-03-14 08:13:17 PM

jst3p: Yes. Prime will save you money.
You order enough Prime-eligible items that you will save money on shipping costs alone.
Without Prime, you would pay at least $3.99 per shipment.
At $79 per year (Prime's old fee), you would pay $2.63 per shipment.
At $99 per year (Prime's new fee), you would pay $3.30 per shipment.


Are they taking into account free standard shipping on orders over $35?
 
2014-03-14 08:14:40 PM
It's fairly obvious that most sellers roll the cost of that "free" two day shipping into the cost of the item, though I do appreciate the $4 one day shipping option. We don't really order enough from Amazon to warrant a renewal at $99. We torrent rather than stream and do not use the Kindle book lending option either. So we will not be renewing Prime this year, but it seems like it is still a decent deal for most.
 
2014-03-14 08:15:51 PM
I have recovered my fee by single orders.  I save thousands of dollars a year by using prime.  Slate estimates my average shipping cost at like 4 bucks, but sometimes it is hundreds.  Because, Hawaii.
 
2014-03-14 08:23:28 PM
46 orders last year.  already 23 this year.

it will save me money.
 
2014-03-14 08:23:47 PM
FTFA:  I also did not attempt to estimate the cash value of Prime's catalog of e-books, movies, and the like.

You also failed to account for the cost of my time. How much time (and gas money) would I have spent going to stores to get those items? How about physical pain? I have bad knees and I had foot surgery last year. Not having to walk around stores hunting for items saved me a lot of pain.

You can get kitty litter delivered. That alone makes it worth the cost.
 
2014-03-14 08:23:51 PM
It basically came down for me to Costco membership vs Amazon Prime.

I picked Costco.

I know apples and oranges, but its basically, once you pay for that membership, it does not make sense to buy available item from anywhere else (the whole point of membership fee).
 
2014-03-14 08:24:59 PM

clancifer: When utilizing video services AND the shipping, it is still far worth it.


^ This.

I stream from both my Blu-ray player in my room and my kindle fire hdx, so the free 2 day shipping's just icing on the cake IMO.
 
2014-03-14 08:27:35 PM
Amazon stock price was up slightly today. Market didn't blink
 
2014-03-14 08:29:22 PM

Marcus Aurelius: It depends on how much you buy from Amazon.

I buy a ridiculous quantity of things from Amazon.


Over 150 for me in 2013. I think that falls into the "you must weigh 800 pounds and can't fit thru the door of your house anymore" category.
 
2014-03-14 08:31:05 PM
I haven't paid for shipping from Amazon in years and I've never had prime, I just use the free super saver shipping, if I need something in two days I'll go buy it locally, otherwise I don't mind an extra couple days wait.
 
2014-03-14 08:31:09 PM

jjorsett: Marcus Aurelius: It depends on how much you buy from Amazon.

I buy a ridiculous quantity of things from Amazon.

Over 150 for me in 2013. I think that falls into the "you must weigh 800 pounds and can't fit thru the door of your house anymore" category.


Or you have a thing for your UPS driver
 
2014-03-14 08:32:27 PM
i.imgur.com

What's a 'widget'?
 
2014-03-14 08:33:13 PM

ReapTheChaos: I haven't paid for shipping from Amazon in years and I've never had prime, I just use the free super saver shipping, if I need something in two days I'll go buy it locally, otherwise I don't mind an extra couple days wait.


This. I wait for items to pile up above $35, buy them and wait. Or if I really need something quick, I'll ask a friend with prime (who may use my Costco membership), everyone wins.
 
2014-03-14 08:35:24 PM

mayIFark: ReapTheChaos: I haven't paid for shipping from Amazon in years and I've never had prime, I just use the free super saver shipping, if I need something in two days I'll go buy it locally, otherwise I don't mind an extra couple days wait.

This. I wait for items to pile up above $35, buy them and wait. Or if I really need something quick, I'll ask a friend with prime (who may use my Costco membership), everyone wins.


He can add members of his household (you) to his prime account. Delivered to his house, but that's how your doing it now expect not though your account.

I'm thinking you can do that and then change your address, or send it as a gift your actual address
 
2014-03-14 08:36:22 PM
Super saver is quite fast if you use it right. For example, never combine fufilled by amazon items with a "regular" items. It'll add about 3 business days to the delivery time, since instead of just grabbing an item from the nearest available warehouse, you'll get one from where the fba items was stored. Order the regular items, wait till they've shipped (important step, they are very likely to 'downgrade' you by retconsilidating shipments otherwise), then grab the fba items.
 
2014-03-14 08:42:02 PM

uber humper: mayIFark: ReapTheChaos: I haven't paid for shipping from Amazon in years and I've never had prime, I just use the free super saver shipping, if I need something in two days I'll go buy it locally, otherwise I don't mind an extra couple days wait.

This. I wait for items to pile up above $35, buy them and wait. Or if I really need something quick, I'll ask a friend with prime (who may use my Costco membership), everyone wins.

He can add members of his household (you) to his prime account. Delivered to his house, but that's how you're doing it now expect but not though your account.

I'm thinking you can do that and then change your address, or send it as a gift your actual address


FTFM
 
2014-03-14 08:42:04 PM

jigger: unlikely: InterruptingQuirk: Is it taking into account that Amazon Prime shipments may be increasing the price for Prime members in order to secretly cover that two day ship?

Except that they're not, and that's straight up crap.

I've gone on there not signed in and saw one price, then logged in and saw a slightly higher price. Maybe it's not intentional, but I've seen it happen multiple times.


I've never seen that happen, either.  Let's hear about specific products.

You do have to be careful about multiple vendors and what the default vendor ends up charging.  I haven't noticed any situations where an alternate vendor was actually cheaper *after taking into account s&h charges*.  Plenty of times where they are cheaper before.  However, it's common where a $3 item costs $4 shipping per item, no break for additional items ordered.  Meanwhile, Amazon charges a base $3.50, which works out cheaper even if you go for free standard instead of prime.
 
2014-03-14 08:44:39 PM
I ride a scooter. Not having to choose between balancing big packages on the back of my bike or else making frequent shopping trips for more expensive smaller packages alone makes Amazon prime worth it. It's a heck of a lot cheaper than owning a car I don't even want just so I can get big stuff home from the store.
 
2014-03-14 08:47:30 PM

ReapTheChaos: I haven't paid for shipping from Amazon in years and I've never had prime, I just use the free super saver shipping, if I need something in two days I'll go buy it locally, otherwise I don't mind an extra couple days wait.


Meanwhile, I get everything in two days and I don't have to drive somewhere, nor do I have to deal with brick-and-mortar salespeople morons.

It isn't just the wait.  Usually I'm ordering something I could wait a week for.  It's the not having to go somewhere with a crappy buying experience.  When I'm in a a brick-and-mortar store, I have to manually look up reviews; I had to deal with salespeople; I have to deal with what's in stock; I have to take the time to go there; I have to take the time to find the item even if I already know what I want.

Maybe your local stores are awesome.  Mine aren't.
 
2014-03-14 08:54:32 PM

InterruptingQuirk: Is it taking into account that Amazon Prime shipments may be increasing the price for Prime members in order to secretly cover that two day ship?


golden goat: You didn't read the link someone posted earlier.  There are allegations that Amazon encourages its vendors to increase the price of an item to cover the shipping charge, thus giving Amazon higher "referral fees." If true, then you likely already pay for the two-day shipping in the item price, and you're really just paying Amazon a premium to shop there (and watch its very restricted selection of streaming content).

Prime isn't worth it at $79, let alone $99.


The "secret" is for sellers using Amazon for fulfillment, vs. selling the same item on their own and charging the buyer for shipping - have to pay Amazon a fee for the service of stocking and shipping the item, even when Amazon offers the buyer free Prime shipping from the Amazon warehouse.   If the vendor ships, they add the $3.99 or whatever shipping cost afterwards. What a shock.   One way or the other the shipping and handling has a cost.

Why, otherwise Amazon could just have the vendor ship Amazon's stock for less and save Amazon's shipping costs.

When I see a marketplace seller offering the same item for shipping from them or from Amazon, even when it ends up costing a few bucks more, I'll take the Prime shipping and know I'll get it in one or two days.  I've gotten Prime orders the SAME day.
 
2014-03-14 09:03:46 PM

jjorsett: Marcus Aurelius: It depends on how much you buy from Amazon.

I buy a ridiculous quantity of things from Amazon.

Over 150 for me in 2013. I think that falls into the "you must weigh 800 pounds and can't fit thru the door of your house anymore" category.


I call it the "I hate dealing with people" category.
 
2014-03-14 09:06:13 PM
AMAZON:  THE RECKONING
As a Canadian, I pay more. That's a safe prediction. There is almost always a Canadian Premium even after accounting for exchange rates and shipping and even taxes.

I made 4 orders last year consisting of 17 items. At the shipping rate used by the widget that's $68. My rough total of the shipping and handling costs as $75. That's roughly $5 per item. The real cost is my UPS box which is a bit less than $20 a month or $240 a year. I got the box because I could not trust regular delivery to my door. The package would either be left in the hall or sent back to the UPS warehouse which is out in the suburbs and might as well be on the Moon given the difficulty of getting their within business hours.

The cost of these two is $18.53 per item, which is more than many of the items cost. Am I saving money over the prices in stores? Sometimes. Not on the cheap stuff. On the stuff that would be $26.00-$40.00 in the stores, perhaps.

It's very subjective, but if I bought ten more items a year, the fixed cost of the mailbox would drop considerably and the shipping costs (assuming I bought DVDs or Blurays) would scarcely increase.

At the moment though, I can't benefit from free Amazon streaming video and audio because they haven't rolled this out in Canada. THAT would make a fairly big difference because I could watch some things I can't buy, rent or get on Netflix.

But I don't have to spend hours browsing in the stores, which is worth a few bucks per hour according to economists, and these are items that I can't find in stores for the most part. To get them I have to pay more. the cost of fees charged for trans-border shipments is refunded so I can leave them out.

Break even on shipping seems to be about 25 items. Prime would be worth paying for me above that level. I was 7 items short last year. This year I have ordered one order.

AMAZON PART DEUX
But I am forgetting to mention an important caveat, namely that I also order from Amazon.ca. I have ordered 7 items from them this year, of which 1 was lost after allegedly being delivered to UPS. Last year I had 6 physical orders. Pretty close to breaking even on shipping and halving the per item cost of my UPS service, such as it is.

If you count Amazon.ca purchases, my mailbox is much cheaper and I break even or save a tiny bit on most of my purchases. I had a lot of Kindle orders (well over 50) as well, and they are generaly priced in such a way that I can buy a book and finish reading it in the hardcover or paperback edition.

THE HORRIBLE TRUTH ABOUT SHOPPING
You can't win, you can't break even, and you can' quit the game. Also, you can't save the world by going stopping.

Meh. I can't complain but I still do.
 
2014-03-14 09:16:00 PM
It's a hundred bucks for the convenience of not having to go to Home Depot, or Walgreens, or WalMart, AND everything is cheaper.  And not having to save up orders to $35, and knowing you can wait until Wednesday, or even Thursday to order something you need for the weekend.  I hate dealing with incompetent people, and Prime eliminates about 73% of those interactions.
 
2014-03-14 09:16:41 PM

mayIFark: It basically came down for me to Costco membership vs Amazon Prime.

I picked Costco.

I know apples and oranges, but its basically, once you pay for that membership, it does not make sense to buy available item from anywhere else (the whole point of membership fee).


Costco sells about 1400 items at a time. And you have to buy in bulk (usually). Amazon has millions of items.

I have both, but that's not the point.
 
2014-03-14 09:22:23 PM
Yep, still saving me money.
 
2014-03-14 09:24:06 PM

GleeUnit: DamnYankees: I also did not attempt to estimate the cash value of Prime's catalog of e-books, movies, and the like.

Ummm...fail. Makes the whole thing pointless.

So much this.  Netflix is $96/yr, Prime is $99.  Many will argue that NFLX has the stronger content catalog, but I'd only agree with that on a marginal basis (and the gap is closing).  So even if you consider Prime Instant HALF as good as Netflix (which is grossly unfair), you've only got to come up with $50 worth of shipping benefits, or about 25 items' worth according to this "calculator" to make the subscription worth it. 

Not considering Prime Instant's value means this widget is absolute booty.


Amazon Prime has their own exclusives, so in some ways they actually beat out Netflix. For example, Amazon has Orphan Black, Justified, The Americans, and Downton Abbey available for streaming, while Netflix has them as disk only, so you have to pay extra.
 
2014-03-14 09:26:02 PM

CruJones: AND everything is cheaper


Yeah, that's not true.
 
2014-03-14 09:28:21 PM

LemSkroob: It would be worth it if Amazon was more like it used to be, a vendor, not what it has become, ebay with a different front end. It seems half the stuff i need isnt actually sold by Amazon, and thus is not eligible for the prim shipping.


I kind of like that, because it has allowed me to get some weird crap that I used to have to go to eBay and buy with PayPal, which was a pain. For example, forget trying to buy USB 3.0 On The Go adapters locally, while on Amazon I can buy one for $3 and with a few bucks extra for shipping. It is so cheap compared to buying one locally for $20 (if I can even get it) that it is worth it. It is even better when you consider the time saved having to drive to half a dozen cell shops to find the adapter.
 
2014-03-14 09:34:22 PM
I was tempted to get it primarily for the streaming but it's definitely not worth it to me at the new rate. For people who order a lot of bulky stuff it's probably a good deal, the numbers just don't work for me though.

I already get free shipping on most prime eligible items I order just by ordering enough stuff at once. Faster shipping isn't something I care about, if I really need something NOW I'll just buy it locally. Otherwise what's the difference really between 2 days and a week? If I want something sooner, I order it sooner.

Also I've come to realize that I hardly buy any "stuff" compared to most people. I average about one order a month between amazon and various other sellers. Lately I've noticed that Amazon rarely has the best price anymore. Ironically I tend to use them like brick & mortars before, I go there to browse and read the reviews then order from elsewhere.
 
2014-03-14 09:38:39 PM

Radak: Does the widget take into account that Amazon Prime gives "free" two day shipping, or is it comparing the Prime price to the regular speed shipping charge? Time is worth money for a lot of people. (Yes, I know that sometimes even the two day Prime ends up in the hands of a slow last mile delivery agent.)


Yeah, the widget is wrong.

I've never seen a shipping charge as low as $3.99, but I ship most things the slow way and don't pay anyway.  A while back they tried to interest me in Prime based on the total shipping charges for my orders from last year--neglecting the fact that I hadn't actually paid any.  Prime would have been better than regular shipping.
 
2014-03-14 09:39:02 PM

Vlad_the_Inaner: Triumph: They should still have a $79 option for people who don't want access to their video and e-book libraries.

Deal!

Never found one thing on Free Prime list that I wanted to watch that wasn't also on Netflix. So I've watched exactly zero.

And while my kid demanded a Kindle, I don't even want a soft-kindle on my netbook.  I have enough crap that wants to phone home all the time to add another spy.


I love my kindle, I've never actually registered it with amazon though, I just download the books. E-ink is what makes it work, can't Stan reading books on LCD screens. I can take the kindle on a trip and use it for weeks on a charge an never have to lug around a pile of books.
 
2014-03-14 09:43:47 PM

jjorsett: Marcus Aurelius: It depends on how much you buy from Amazon.

I buy a ridiculous quantity of things from Amazon.

Over 150 for me in 2013. I think that falls into the "you must weigh 800 pounds and can't fit thru the door of your house anymore" category.


I'm genuinely curious, how do people order so much stuff? What do you buy?

I get some gifts for people, books, DVDs, filters for my cat water dish, an occasional electronic device or toy. I think I average about a dozen amazon orders a year. I can't imagine 150+ orders even if I bought everything I ever buy aside from frozen groceries. It just boggles my mind that someone can manage to order so much stuff without being one of those hoarders with unopened boxes floor to ceiling.
 
2014-03-14 09:48:44 PM

jigger: mayIFark: It basically came down for me to Costco membership vs Amazon Prime.

I picked Costco.

I know apples and oranges, but its basically, once you pay for that membership, it does not make sense to buy available item from anywhere else (the whole point of membership fee).

Costco sells about 1400 items at a time. And you have to buy in bulk (usually). Amazon has millions of items.

I have both, but that's not the point.


I get most of my frozen goods a Costco. Burger patties, chicken breasts, fish sticks, also baking supplies, canned goods, things that work well to buy in bulk. Supplemented with a bit of fresh stuff from the supermarket I drive past on my way home it works well.
 
2014-03-14 09:50:57 PM

jigger: CruJones: AND everything is cheaper

Yeah, that's not true.


Pretty much what I buy is. It's why I started buying Amazon in the first place. Refrigerator, TV, dog food...all cheaper than the local stores.
 
2014-03-14 09:55:33 PM

Aestatis: Meanwhile, I get everything in two days and I don't have to drive somewhere, nor do I have to deal with brick-and-mortar salespeople morons.


But you have to flatten all those boxes before you put them in the recycling bin.  That takes time.

/you do recycle, right
 
2014-03-14 09:58:00 PM
I just ran a report to tally everything I've purchased from Amazon over the last 10 years.

$131,661.84

Under your orders, download order reports.  You can set up a custom report if you want to make yourself sick.
 
2014-03-14 09:59:01 PM
I find it more convenient and cheaper to just buy more t-shirts, socks, underwear and pants than to do laundry.  Plus they're delivered.

/lol
 
2014-03-14 10:00:28 PM
Prime only saves you money if you buy things 2nd-day air.  If you don't mind waiting a week, no amount of orders will "save" you money.

/can't wait a week
 
2014-03-14 10:02:06 PM
Prime will not save you money on shipping.
If you join Prime, you'll be paying an extra $83.04 per year, so sign up only if you think access to Amazon's library of e-books, movies, and TV shows is worth that amount.
Without Prime, you would pay at least $3.99 per shipment.
At $79 per year (Prime's old fee), you would pay $19.75 per shipment.
At $99 per year (Prime's new fee), you would pay $24.75 per shipment.
 

How fascinating.
 
2014-03-14 10:03:33 PM

Vlad_the_Inaner: Aestatis: Meanwhile, I get everything in two days and I don't have to drive somewhere, nor do I have to deal with brick-and-mortar salespeople morons.

But you have to flatten all those boxes before you put them in the recycling bin.  That takes time.

/you do recycle, right


Yes, flattening the boxes makes it totally wash out.  And all those annoying packaging plastic bags.

/My county makes recycling realllllly easy...
 
2014-03-14 10:05:07 PM
It's worth it just for Christmas gifts to me.
 
2014-03-14 10:08:48 PM

Intrepid00: What the hell are people buying all the time from Amazon. I live in a pretty pricey area and Target is usually cheaper even if Amazon doesn't collect sales tax.

My guess is you have to have a family for it to be really worth it.


Who the hell are you people that having something shipped to your door isn't worth a several dollar office difference? I'd rather eat glass than go to to a damn target. When I need stupid shiat like batteries and ibuprofen and shampoo and shaving cream and an external hard drive and two rare earth magnets and a 2' ethernet cable and some scotch tape I just pull up that shiat on Amazon then I get back to what I was doing and I'm done with shopping before have made blocks on the on way to target. The next day or the day after that it's on my porch for free or 3.99. fark the gas, I just hate going to the store.
 
2014-03-14 10:17:19 PM

CruJones: jigger: CruJones: AND everything is cheaper

Yeah, that's not true.

Pretty much what I buy is. It's why I started buying Amazon in the first place. Refrigerator, TV, dog food...all cheaper than the local stores.


For me it's not whether or not i couldn't maybe scour the earth and find some schmuck who has it a few bucks cheaper. I probably could. But any time I have checked amazon was cheaper or extremely competitive to the point that the difference was negligible considering all factors. I'm not wealthy but I do work fifty hours a week. In general, if they save me time, the price difference is easily worth it and they save me lots of time. I guess I'm old now... Because I could give a shiat about 3 or 5 or ten bucks. It's more important I can deal with that little thing in three minutes and be done with it. Going to target is going to take an hour and a half.
 
2014-03-14 10:24:58 PM

JohnBigBootay: Intrepid00: What the hell are people buying all the time from Amazon. I live in a pretty pricey area and Target is usually cheaper even if Amazon doesn't collect sales tax.

My guess is you have to have a family for it to be really worth it.

Who the hell are you people that having something shipped to your door isn't worth a several dollar office difference? I'd rather eat glass than go to to a damn target. When I need stupid shiat like batteries and ibuprofen and shampoo and shaving cream and an external hard drive and two rare earth magnets and a 2' ethernet cable and some scotch tape I just pull up that shiat on Amazon then I get back to what I was doing and I'm done with shopping before have made blocks on the on way to target. The next day or the day after that it's on my porch for free or 3.99. fark the gas, I just hate going to the store.


I don't really mind going to the store. Usually it's on my way somewhere else so it's not much gas to stop. I enjoy the people watching and I get some exercise by walking around. Going to te store once or twice a week just isn't much of a burden to me.
 
2014-03-14 10:34:16 PM

Molavian: I just ran a report to tally everything I've purchased from Amazon over the last 10 years.

$131,661.84

Under your orders, download order reports.  You can set up a custom report if you want to make yourself sick.


You mde it to the green key 15% off club, huh?
 
2014-03-14 10:45:26 PM
I pay for prime with just my Christmas shopping.
 
2014-03-14 11:15:21 PM

rczeien: I pay for prime with just my Christmas shopping.


And this is something that needs to be repeated. Christmas shopping online is much better then filing into your local Walmart trying to get the last product on the shelf. Prime alone will cut down on shipping expenses making it not just a worthy alternative; it would make it the common sense choice.
 
2014-03-14 11:18:17 PM

cman: rczeien: I pay for prime with just my Christmas shopping.

And this is something that needs to be repeated. Christmas shopping online is much better then filing into your local Walmart trying to get the last product on the shelf. Prime alone will cut down on shipping expenses making it not just a worthy alternative; it would make it the common sense choice.


My family lives around the country and I dated a girl in Chicago for a few years, so the fast free shipping has saved my ass on many a birthday and whatnot. And since you can find absolutely anything I end up looking thoughtful. Win/win
 
2014-03-14 11:19:22 PM
I never even batted an eye or did a Cost benefit analysis of Prime before. I bet a lot of folks didn't. People didn't used to consider sharing an account
And now, thousands of people, just between Fark, Reddit, Gawker networks, Slashdot, etc. Are doing exactly those things. I wonder what it will do to prime membership.

Amazon is smart enough to not make decisions like this lightly. I'm sure they scoured responses from the "rumor" last month. They know there will be attrition. They know as long as they keep 5, they can lose one. I wonder if they'll meet those odds. They certainly think so.
 
2014-03-14 11:35:16 PM
Ha, I ordered 113 items in 2013. Yeah, it's worth the money for me. I don't go to places like "Wal-Mart" or "Target" or "outside" if I can help it.
 
2014-03-14 11:36:29 PM

rynthetyn: I ride a scooter. Not having to choose between balancing big packages on the back of my bike or else making frequent shopping trips for more expensive smaller packages alone makes Amazon prime worth it. It's a heck of a lot cheaper than owning a car I don't even want just so I can get big stuff home from the store.


Yeah I ride a bike. Cat litter alone makes Amazon Prime worth the money a dozen times over.
 
2014-03-14 11:49:42 PM

Aestatis: Vlad_the_Inaner: Aestatis: Meanwhile, I get everything in two days and I don't have to drive somewhere, nor do I have to deal with brick-and-mortar salespeople morons.

But you have to flatten all those boxes before you put them in the recycling bin.  That takes time.

/you do recycle, right

Yes, flattening the boxes makes it totally wash out.  And all those annoying packaging plastic bags.

/My county makes recycling realllllly easy...


So does mine, you simply separate plastics, paper, yard waste, and general trash, they pick up all four containers, dump them into the same big honking truck that then drives to the dump and pours it all into a hole in the ground...
 
2014-03-15 12:26:16 AM
still renewing, ~1day shipping, streaming Orphan Black, blah blah blah.

But Amazon screwed me, once. They had a Cadet toilet as prime, but it was 'lost in transit' and it took them 3 weeks to deliver.  I could have gone to Lowes/Home Depot for that BS!
 
2014-03-15 12:32:54 AM
It may be just me, but most of the things I'm interested in buying are cheaper elsewhere. I never really saw the point of Amazon after they quit being a bookstore.
 
2014-03-15 12:56:13 AM

JohnBigBootay: For me it's not whether or not i couldn't maybe scour the earth and find some schmuck who has it a few bucks cheaper. I probably could. But any time I have checked amazon was cheaper or extremely competitive to the point that the difference was negligible considering all factors. I'm not wealthy but I do work fifty hours a week. In general, if they save me time, the price difference is easily worth it and they save me lots of time. I guess I'm old now... Because I could give a shiat about 3 or 5 or ten bucks. It's more important I can deal with that little thing in three minutes and be done with it. Going to target is going to take an hour and a half.


I am somewhere in this category.  The widget says worth it for me.  If I notice I'm almost out of something, I pull up Amazon on my phone and check.  If the price is good, it's bought and on its way.  If not, it goes on the shopping list I eventually get to.... when something important is running out.

A good number of the orders are things like a container of gum to keep on my office desk, or a 30 cent shower scrub thing.  The other week I ordered a single plastic coin holder that was about a dollar.  I half expect them to eventually complain...  and there are usually ways to deal with something being marked an 'addon', or an equivalent listing that isn't marked that way.
 
2014-03-15 01:25:45 AM

Confabulat: Ha, I ordered 113 items in 2013. Yeah, it's worth the money for me. I don't go to places like "Wal-Mart" or "Target" or "outside" if I can help it.


I checked mine, and I shipped $11,000 worth of stuff via Prime last year. Granted, a lot of these items were for work, but I had them delivered all over the country in 2 day time frames, so I made out like a bandit with Prime.
 
2014-03-15 02:01:48 AM
things that they left out the of the article
1) prime includes shipping on some very large articles - like my second 40" tv
2) prime free videos
3) cheap upgrade to next day shipping

get back to me when you do a real comparison

/sigh 183 purchases in 2013
 
2014-03-15 02:11:47 AM
I just enrolled for the first time in January, and I got my $79 back on shipping alone in the first 30 days.
I've sense watched 2 complete series that were great, and I'm starting on a 3rd. Haven't had time to look at the book part.

I may not be as happy to pay $99 and surely have watched everything watchable by next January, so we'll see. I'll probably keep it though. I enjoy getting items in 2 days rather than paying about the same non Prime price and waiting 6-10 days through UPS mail.
 
2014-03-15 02:13:05 AM

Parthenogenetic: Am I the only one here who uses Super Saver Shipping?

Because it seems to me that if one is a little patient, one can leech off of the inventory and delivery infrastructure paid for by others.

As long as the orders total more than $35 each, of course.  Which they always do.


I used to be happy with Super Saver shipping, but then I tried Prime free for a year and couldn't go back.  My Prime membership lapsed once and I thought I'd try Super Saver again; four days later my order hadn't even left the warehouse and I renewed Prime.
 
2014-03-15 07:59:21 AM
If the video stream and book lending pieces were available through amazon.ca, it'd probably be worth it for me...
 
2014-03-15 08:25:44 AM

rczeien: I pay for prime with just my Christmas shopping.


Hell, I pay for a good number of my Christmas gifts using the credit I earn through the year on the Amazon Prime Visa.  I had about $135 on credit, which bought a good number of presents for the kids.
 
2014-03-15 08:42:56 AM
Not including my three other family members that share my prime, I had 163 orders last year, 95% of which were prime eligible. This isn't even taking into considering all the free stuff I stream through them, saving me from even considering a NetFlix subscription. So yes, definitely worth it, surprised it took so many years for the rate to go up.
 
2014-03-15 09:53:04 AM
137 orders last year.  Yes, it's worth it.
 
2014-03-15 12:32:30 PM

cman: rczeien: I pay for prime with just my Christmas shopping.

And this is something that needs to be repeated. Christmas shopping online is much better then filing into your local Walmart trying to get the last product on the shelf. Prime alone will cut down on shipping expenses making it not just a worthy alternative; it would make it the common sense choice.


How? I use Amazon for a lot of my Christmas shopping, and I already get free shipping without Prime. That's actually one of the easiest times to get free super saver shipping because I'm ordering a bunch of stuff at once.
 
2014-03-15 12:38:20 PM

Off2403: Parthenogenetic: Am I the only one here who uses Super Saver Shipping?

Because it seems to me that if one is a little patient, one can leech off of the inventory and delivery infrastructure paid for by others.

As long as the orders total more than $35 each, of course.  Which they always do.

I used to be happy with Super Saver shipping, but then I tried Prime free for a year and couldn't go back.  My Prime membership lapsed once and I thought I'd try Super Saver again; four days later my order hadn't even left the warehouse and I renewed Prime.


I guess I just don't get it, am I just too patient? It's rare that it makes any difference if something takes two days or two weeks to arrive. If I need something right away, two days is too slow. Otherwise I can plan ahead and it gets here when it gets here.
 
2014-03-15 12:48:39 PM

James10952001: Off2403: Parthenogenetic: Am I the only one here who uses Super Saver Shipping?

Because it seems to me that if one is a little patient, one can leech off of the inventory and delivery infrastructure paid for by others.

As long as the orders total more than $35 each, of course.  Which they always do.

I used to be happy with Super Saver shipping, but then I tried Prime free for a year and couldn't go back.  My Prime membership lapsed once and I thought I'd try Super Saver again; four days later my order hadn't even left the warehouse and I renewed Prime.

I guess I just don't get it, am I just too patient? It's rare that it makes any difference if something takes two days or two weeks to arrive. If I need something right away, two days is too slow. Otherwise I can plan ahead and it gets here when it gets here.


I'd say it's just a matter of priorities and personal preference. Since I use Amazon largley as an alternative to in-store shopping, I like getting items quickly. I buy enough that the Prime membership pays for itself while I'm still saving money and time overall in comparison to going to a physical store.
 
2014-03-15 01:18:57 PM
That was completely pointless.  It told me, based on my three Amazon orders, that I should only buy it if I think the e-books and video stuff is worth the cost.  Well Duh. That is exactly what I expected it to tell me: if the videos and such are worth it compared to other available options.
 
2014-03-15 02:42:27 PM

James10952001: Off2403: Parthenogenetic: Am I the only one here who uses Super Saver Shipping?

Because it seems to me that if one is a little patient, one can leech off of the inventory and delivery infrastructure paid for by others.

As long as the orders total more than $35 each, of course.  Which they always do.

I used to be happy with Super Saver shipping, but then I tried Prime free for a year and couldn't go back.  My Prime membership lapsed once and I thought I'd try Super Saver again; four days later my order hadn't even left the warehouse and I renewed Prime.

I guess I just don't get it, am I just too patient? It's rare that it makes any difference if something takes two days or two weeks to arrive. If I need something right away, two days is too slow. Otherwise I can plan ahead and it gets here when it gets here.


YUP
this is why we use next day or one day service sometimes.
EXAMPLE: two day order for new memory for the computer.
saves me from driving 30 minutes
saves me on price for identical product
100% chance of product being in stock
takes 2 days, 1 day if I NEED IT NOW because my old memory is fubar.

ordering and taking two weeks to arrive?
Then I guess you didnt need the memory in the first place, did you. LOL

Getting books NOW from my favorite author is AWESOME.
While I have tons of stuff that I could read, I REALLY want my favs.

I guess you are just not part of the target audience.


Do an experiment.
Take all of your online purchases for a year.
Esp including things that you COULD have gotten from amazon, but might have gotten else where.
Add up how much you paid in shipping. Ignore how long it took.
If it is even CLOSE to $99 in shipping, you would be better off using amazon prime.

if not, whatever
 
2014-03-15 03:21:24 PM

jdjoker: jylcat: Totally worth it. $0.31 per shipment currently and $0.38 per shipment after the price rise.

My math says that's ~255 shipments in a year. Basically every single weekday. Do they deliver your lunch or something?


The way I see it, there are over 100 days when I didn't buy something!
 
2014-03-15 05:41:29 PM
When you figure in the video streaming and free kindle books, it's more than worth it.
 
2014-03-15 05:44:06 PM

namatad: James10952001: Off2403: Parthenogenetic: Am I the only one here who uses Super Saver Shipping?

Because it seems to me that if one is a little patient, one can leech off of the inventory and delivery infrastructure paid for by others.

As long as the orders total more than $35 each, of course.  Which they always do.

I used to be happy with Super Saver shipping, but then I tried Prime free for a year and couldn't go back.  My Prime membership lapsed once and I thought I'd try Super Saver again; four days later my order hadn't even left the warehouse and I renewed Prime.

I guess I just don't get it, am I just too patient? It's rare that it makes any difference if something takes two days or two weeks to arrive. If I need something right away, two days is too slow. Otherwise I can plan ahead and it gets here when it gets here.

YUP
this is why we use next day or one day service sometimes.
EXAMPLE: two day order for new memory for the computer.
saves me from driving 30 minutes
saves me on price for identical product
100% chance of product being in stock
takes 2 days, 1 day if I NEED IT NOW because my old memory is fubar.

ordering and taking two weeks to arrive?
Then I guess you didnt need the memory in the first place, did you. LOL

Getting books NOW from my favorite author is AWESOME.
While I have tons of stuff that I could read, I REALLY want my favs.

I guess you are just not part of the target audience.


Do an experiment.
Take all of your online purchases for a year.
Esp including things that you COULD have gotten from amazon, but might have gotten else where.
Add up how much you paid in shipping. Ignore how long it took.
If it is even CLOSE to $99 in shipping, you would be better off using amazon prime.

if not, whatever


Well I needed a new DVD burner recently. I ordered it from newegg on special for $14.99 with free shipping and it arrived in less than a week. In the meantime I just used my laptop for the one disc I had to burn.

I've ordered a fair amount of stuff from amazon over the years but it's peanuts to what some people here are ordering. I almost never paid for shipping on any of it because I always used the super saver free shipping. Unfortunately Amazon is based in my state so they charge sales tax, another ding against them and yes I know I ought to pay the tax anyway.

Two weeks was an extreme example, an next day? That's still an eternity compared to popping over to Home Depot or the local hardware store down the street. If I'm in the middle of a project and I run out of deck screws or break a drill bit, I'm going to run out and buy another and be back in business.

Clearly Prime is good for a lot of people, but in most cases it seems to be a matter of instant(ish) gratification rather than any savings. Also I realize that many people don't live within a couple of miles of a bunch of stores, or drive past many others to and from work the way I do.
 
2014-03-15 05:50:27 PM

Marcus Aurelius: InterruptingQuirk: Is it taking into account that Amazon Prime shipments may be increasing the price for Prime members in order to secretly cover that two day ship?

I have checked, via TOR and anonymous browsing VM, that my Prime prices are the same as they are when I'm logged into my account.

Anecdotal, but I check again every time I see someone bring it up.  I just spot checked a couple items, and they're the same price in both places.


Yes, but were you behind 7 proxies?

/i keed
 
2014-03-15 06:17:34 PM

golden goat: cman: Its worth the money still

Why are people biatching about a $20 dollar price increase? Free two day shipping alone is worth $100 a year indeed.


You didn't read the link someone posted earlier.  There are allegations that Amazon encourages its vendors to increase the price of an item to cover the shipping charge, thus giving Amazon higher "referral fees." If true, then you likely already pay for the two-day shipping in the item price, and you're really just paying Amazon a premium to shop there (and watch its very restricted selection of streaming content).

Prime isn't worth it at $79, let alone $99.


I ALWAYS compare brick and mortar prices (also often times online prices) to Amazon, and Amazon is always either cheaper or at the worst equally priced..  This is also considering the MINIMUM price, not the AVERAGE price. After a few tools and a 30lb cast iron faceplate for a lathe, its cheaper.  Plus you have to factor in that Amazon often carries things that you CANNOT even find in brick and mortar stores.  Being in the military I have little say in where I live and thus my ability to live where its convenient to buy the things I want'/need.  I've never seen an Amazon price significantly higher than prices at other retailers.
 
2014-03-16 01:28:38 AM

Parthenogenetic: Am I the only one here who uses Super Saver Shipping?

Because it seems to me that if one is a little patient, one can leech off of the inventory and delivery infrastructure paid for by others.

As long as the orders total more than $35 each, of course.  Which they always do.


No. I'm happy with it. If I need something immediately, I'll go to the store and buy it. The higher price is the cost of getting it right away.

But I order very little from Amazon anyway. Maybe 5 orders a year at most, and I don't have a problem meeting the $35 minimum. Although I did have a weird issue recently where I was trying to order a new phone and a case, which were both eligible for free shipping, and I wasn't given the free shipping option at checkout. When I went back and deleted the case, I got the free shipping option. I ended up buying the stuff elsewhere, and saving the ~$20 Amazon was going to charge in sales tax.
 
2014-03-16 01:43:00 AM

jdjoker: jylcat: Totally worth it. $0.31 per shipment currently and $0.38 per shipment after the price rise.

My math says that's ~255 shipments in a year. Basically every single weekday. Do they deliver your lunch or something?


Amazon spending threads are the inverse of wedding spending threads.
 
2014-03-16 02:28:02 AM

InterruptingQuirk: Marcus Aurelius: InterruptingQuirk: Is it taking into account that Amazon Prime shipments may be increasing the price for Prime members in order to secretly cover that two day ship?

I have checked, via TOR and anonymous browsing VM, that my Prime prices are the same as they are when I'm logged into my account.

Anecdotal, but I check again every time I see someone bring it up.  I just spot checked a couple items, and they're the same price in both places.

Yes, but were you behind 7 proxies?

/i keed


Amazon has profiled buyers who hide behind 7 proxies or tor as someone can afford top dollar

/like those whose browser string says they are browsing from Macs
//change your string to look like you are on Windows ME and watch the bargains show up.
 
2014-03-16 02:38:41 AM

Vlad_the_Inaner: //change your string to look like you are on Windows ME and watch the bargains show up.


I thought only travel websites do that.

CSB: I'm on a PC, but a nonstop flight disappeared when I went back a few days later to book it (at a certain price). I cleared cookies and entered private browsing mode, and the flight was back, and the same price as a few days earlier. I will now always use private browsing mode for travel.
 
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