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(Slate)   A quick widget to calculate whether or not Amazon is still worth the money after its rate increase. (Spoiler: It's probably not worth the money)   (slate.com) divider line 234
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2014-03-14 06:03:04 PM
I had 52 - frankly I thought it would be more. But like I said yesterday - if they went to $300 for prime I'd probably pay it. And if they canceled prime I'd still probably buy 90% of the shiat I buy at amazon. Their selection and customer service and general convenience is so far out in front of everyone else there's no one in the rear view mirror.
 
2014-03-14 06:03:11 PM

GrailOfThunder: Triumph: They should still have a $79 option for people who don't want access to their video and e-book libraries.

They probably use those people to balance out the folks that DO use 'em.


Exactly, but retail isn't health insurance. I'm not here to subsidize.
 
2014-03-14 06:03:34 PM
This is horribly misleading.  You might be able to ship a business card for 3.99 but that's about it.  Also, 2 day shipping costs a lot more.  Add in the free video service, and it's still a great deal.
 
2014-03-14 06:03:51 PM
According to that calculator, I saved $1755.60.
 
2014-03-14 06:04:39 PM
Amazon sent me a handwritten Christmas card a few years ago.
 
2014-03-14 06:05:05 PM

cman: Its worth the money still

Why are people biatching about a $20 dollar price increase? Free two day shipping alone is worth $100 a year indeed.


I have no farking idea. It was the same goddam price for eight years. It barely matches inflation over that period.
 
2014-03-14 06:05:55 PM
You can still gift it to yourself for $79 for up to a year in advance
 
2014-03-14 06:06:25 PM

jylcat: Totally worth it. $0.31 per shipment currently and $0.38 per shipment after the price rise.


My math says that's ~255 shipments in a year. Basically every single weekday. Do they deliver your lunch or something?
 
2014-03-14 06:06:31 PM
It would be worth it if Amazon was more like it used to be, a vendor, not what it has become, ebay with a different front end. It seems half the stuff i need isnt actually sold by Amazon, and thus is not eligible for the prim shipping.
 
2014-03-14 06:07:06 PM
Uh.. Do you mean Amazon Prime, subby?

I use my father's account, everyone in our fam does.

/yes you can do that
 
2014-03-14 06:07:14 PM
I didn't order a large quantity of items last year, but all of them were large and bulky. $3.99 per isn't even close to what my shipping  would have cost. I saved a lot of cash on that, beyond the access to movies, etc.
 
2014-03-14 06:07:22 PM
I never pay shipping. I never have ordered anything on amazon that I needed right away. I add stuff I want to my cart and when it gets to $50+ I put the order in.
 
2014-03-14 06:07:33 PM

Empty H: unlikely: InterruptingQuirk: Is it taking into account that Amazon Prime shipments may be increasing the price for Prime members in order to secretly cover that two day ship?

Except that they're not, and that's straight up crap.

Also, please don't post to auto play sites. Me and my phone just got into a fight.


Sorry.
 
2014-03-14 06:08:12 PM

Parthenogenetic: Am I the only one here who uses Super Saver Shipping?

Because it seems to me that if one is a little patient, one can leech off of the inventory and delivery infrastructure paid for by others.

As long as the orders total more than $35 each, of course.  Which they always do.


I did, but I found it to get worse and take longer than I preferred. And the raise to 35 bucks per order is what made me try prime.

Well, that and VA sales tax being added.
 
2014-03-14 06:09:39 PM
What's "Amazon"?
 
2014-03-14 06:10:40 PM
Now that The Americans was picked up by Amazon Instant, it's totally worth it for me. I also did 37 orders last year, not counting the other family members I have tied to my account to get the shipping benefits.
 
2014-03-14 06:11:31 PM

antidisestablishmentarianism: Isn't it still cheaper than Netflix?


Nope. Netflix is $8 per month, which comes out to $96 per year.
 
2014-03-14 06:12:08 PM
Even using his rough calculator it says my 51 orders last year were worth it.... BUT - it then also says that he's using $3.99 as the shipping price. Amazon Prime is free 2-day shipping (and as many have mentioned I got a lot of those shipments in 1 day).

In what world does he get 2 day shipping on anything for $3.99? And one of those 51 orders of mine I got with 2-day prime shipping was a goddamn wheelbarrow! Prime, even at $99 is well worth the money to me.
 
2014-03-14 06:12:25 PM
seeing as how i maybe saved $20 in shipping last year (i buy in the single digits from amazon) and seeing as how their movie catalog had me interested in about 20 movies last year, NO i did not renew 2 weeks ago.  i only got it to begin with because i had a $50 gift certificate from xmas.  if the unlimited streaming were better, then sure i'd do it.  but it isnt so i wont.

/also not a kindler
 
2014-03-14 06:15:28 PM
I spent $11,000 on 134 orders in 2013 ... this link just ruined my weekend
 
2014-03-14 06:15:54 PM
Also, remember, half the time (most of the time) Prime is cheaper than tax on many items.
 
2014-03-14 06:15:54 PM
Still worth it for me.
 
2014-03-14 06:17:08 PM

Cerebral Ballsy: Uh.. Do you mean Amazon Prime, subby?

I use my father's account, everyone in our fam does.

/yes you can do that


Yup. My mom and sister also use my Prime membership. And their widget doesn't account for those orders.
 
2014-03-14 06:17:30 PM

Parthenogenetic: Am I the only one here who uses Super Saver Shipping?

Because it seems to me that if one is a little patient, one can leech off of the inventory and delivery infrastructure paid for by others.

As long as the orders total more than $35 each, of course.  Which they always do.


And this. I rarely use anything except Super Saver. The last time I didn't though (replacement headlight bulbs), it cost a whole $5 more total for 2 of them from Amazon than I would have paid in a B&M for one. Prime would have saved me $22 in that case, but I typically don't buy enough and need it quickly enough to justify it.
 
2014-03-14 06:19:07 PM
Subscribe & Save whenever possible, super saver the rest of the time

The 15% off you get for 5 items or more on S&S comes out to big big savings for me. If I only have 2 items shipping in a month I'll find 3 things like toothpaste, facewash and aspirin and throw them in there for that discount.
 
2014-03-14 06:19:30 PM

skinink: Last year one of the things I ordered was a Dahon Mariner D7 folding bike that has a shipping weight of 36 pounds and is eligible for Prime shipping. That alone probably was worth the membership. And a majority of my other 38 Amazon orders in 2013 was eligible as well.


Nice! I ended up getting a Citizen Gotham 7 folding bike.  Cheaper, but it didn't include shipping.
 
2014-03-14 06:19:45 PM
It's two day shipping.
My primary video
Streaming service, too.
 
2014-03-14 06:22:51 PM

Mhal9000: I didn't order a large quantity of items last year, but all of them were large and bulky. $3.99 per isn't even close to what my shipping  would have cost. I saved a lot of cash on that, beyond the access to movies, etc.


This!  My last order from them was a 44-lb piece of furniture.  I don't even want to know how much that would have cost to ship
 
2014-03-14 06:23:51 PM

Ponzholio: With 25 order and probably 3/4 Prime eligible-

Without Prime, you would pay at least $3.99 per shipment.
At $79 per year (Prime's old fee), you would pay $4.16 per shipment.
At $99 per year (Prime's new fee), you would pay $4.96 per shipment.


Convenience- priceless


And that doesn't even include streaming or Kindle Lending Library or the the being nice to a family member and sharing Prime shipping with them. Etc.

If you don't want the streaming, find a family member who does and share the cost with them. Let them have the main prime account that has streaming/Kindle Lending Library and have them share the shipping with you. Win-Win.
 
2014-03-14 06:26:23 PM

HeartBurnKid: antidisestablishmentarianism: Isn't it still cheaper than Netflix?

Nope. Netflix is $8 per month, which comes out to $96 per year.


For $3 difference Amazon is still worth it. I wish Netflix would let you pay for movies they don't have available for free streaming like Amazon does. Which reminds me that I need to watch House of Cards.
 
2014-03-14 06:28:45 PM

Marcus Aurelius: It depends on how much you buy from Amazon.

I buy a ridiculous quantity of things from Amazon.


^^^^^^
 
2014-03-14 06:30:06 PM

whynotisright: Mhal9000: I didn't order a large quantity of items last year, but all of them were large and bulky. $3.99 per isn't even close to what my shipping  would have cost. I saved a lot of cash on that, beyond the access to movies, etc.

This!  My last order from them was a 44-lb piece of furniture.  I don't even want to know how much that would have cost to ship


Okay, I did check.  $44 standard delivery/$55 2-day.
 
2014-03-14 06:30:52 PM
I find widget lacking. It assumes that one order means one item with one shipping charge. I have plenty of 8-9 item orders that would have had a shipping charge for every item.
 
2014-03-14 06:33:48 PM
If I can't wait a week, I can drive to get it. Never saw a reason to bother with prime before the rate hike.
 
2014-03-14 06:34:02 PM
A lot of stuff I buy from Amazon isn't from Amazon. Will I still get the shipping deal if I'm purchasing midget porn from Joe's Bargain Bazaar in New Jersey?
 
2014-03-14 06:35:09 PM

antidisestablishmentarianism: I wish Netflix would let you pay for movies they don't have available for free streaming like Amazon does. Which reminds me that I need to watch House of Cards.


Is it cheaper to buy/rent from Amazon if you have Prime?  If not can't you just use Netflix for their library and if you really want to stream something they don't have buy it from Amazonz?
 
2014-03-14 06:35:45 PM

DanZero: Is this for Slate writers? It certainly isn't for us successful TFers


I used to be a savvy investor like you. I'm a smart mark, I can smell a good deal.
 
2014-03-14 06:37:29 PM
My huge ottoman and book shelf covered the prime cost by themselves, then there's the other 53 orders and a few next day shippings. Plus I canceled cable years ago and use prime almost exclusively. Wife pays for Netflix I canceled mine before I met her when I used Amazon more.

Yeah worth it and the Wii U streaming app rocks.
 
2014-03-14 06:37:45 PM
Once the market is cornered they will get their money just like every other large company. Enjoy it while it lasts.
 
2014-03-14 06:39:18 PM
What are you guys buying multiple times per week?
 
2014-03-14 06:39:25 PM
5 orders in 2009
15 orders in 2010
30 orders in 2011
59 orders in 2012
73 orders in 2013
28 so far in 2014 (on pace for 140 orders this year)

I would say it is worth at least $250/yr for me.

Plus, all those free upgrades to speedier shipping are awesome.

in 2010 I ordered a $500 rooftop Yakima Skybox Pro 21 - free two day shipping. Awesome. Non prime sellers wanted not only more for the skybox itself, for they also wanted an extra $149 for 6-7 day shipping, lol

/today is exactly the 1/5th point of the year (73/365) . Cool.
 
2014-03-14 06:40:36 PM
Free advertising for Amazon Prime!  Reverse psychology works again!  The savings in shipping are worth it for me.  The video, I have to give a thumbs down.  I use it because it's there, but it's pretty embarrassing on Amazon's part.

Prime video just has too many flaws for me to consider it much of a benefit.  The library is slow to get updated content, and often times the new (or newly released) stuff isn't that great and/or it's already available on other services by the time I notice it on Amazon.Overall, from my perspective and taste, Netflix and other services' libraries are significantly better.

Just as importantly, and possibly more, the usability on Prime video is almost a text book case of what not to do.  Their data is horribly inaccurate, so it makes the filters relatively useless.  The release dates on a lot of older items are completely screwed.  It means when I'm looking for new stuff, the results are inundated with very old movies, and conversely, if I'm in the mood for older stuff, it means a lot of it doesn't show up when I try to filter for it.  What I really hate the most is how they make it so hard to rate movies.  I want to give it 3 stars.  I should be able to do that on my Bluray player or Roku.  I shouldn't have to write a review, and I shouldn't have to log into my computer to do it.  Screw that.
 
2014-03-14 06:40:45 PM
Totally worth it. Free two-day shipping plus free Amazon streaming? I buy stuff from Amazon probably 50 times a year. I'd save money if it was $150 a year.
 
2014-03-14 06:42:24 PM
If streaming to TiVo was included with the package, I'd take it in a minute.
 
2014-03-14 06:42:54 PM
Well, considering I pay the student price and last year I order 52 items it's still worth it.


It runs out in a week, but too bad I'm a typical broke college student so I can't afford to renew.
 
2014-03-14 06:43:00 PM
If amazon would nicely let me stream to my android phone or non-kindle tablet, it would be worth it even more. That's the only thing pissing me off.
 
2014-03-14 06:43:33 PM
Gazillions of people paid the (now former) rate and only got free 2 day shipping.

Now, you get free 2 day shipping and quite a few movies/tv shows for free on top of that.

There's no way that Amazon could continue their Netflix-like model and not raise the price.
 
2014-03-14 06:44:46 PM

Man On A Mission: Considering the number of movies I watch through Amazon Prime, I am far into the black even with the new rate.

Slate fails at math. Gee, what a surprise.


Eh, I'm pretty sure I've watched the ten decent movies they have already.
 
2014-03-14 06:46:06 PM

MrHappyRotter: Free advertising for Amazon Prime!  Reverse psychology works again!  The savings in shipping are worth it for me.  The video, I have to give a thumbs down.  I use it because it's there, but it's pretty embarrassing on Amazon's part.

Prime video just has too many flaws for me to consider it much of a benefit.  The library is slow to get updated content, and often times the new (or newly released) stuff isn't that great and/or it's already available on other services by the time I notice it on Amazon.Overall, from my perspective and taste, Netflix and other services' libraries are significantly better.

Just as importantly, and possibly more, the usability on Prime video is almost a text book case of what not to do.  Their data is horribly inaccurate, so it makes the filters relatively useless.  The release dates on a lot of older items are completely screwed.  It means when I'm looking for new stuff, the results are inundated with very old movies, and conversely, if I'm in the mood for older stuff, it means a lot of it doesn't show up when I try to filter for it.  What I really hate the most is how they make it so hard to rate movies.  I want to give it 3 stars.  I should be able to do that on my Bluray player or Roku.  I shouldn't have to write a review, and I shouldn't have to log into my computer to do it.  Screw that.


Plus, because they're coming out with a set top box, it won't run native on Apple TV. I have to stream it from my phone using AirPlay. It works, but it's not optimal.
 
2014-03-14 06:46:46 PM
Not worth it for the shipping alone, but cheaper than buying every season of Super Why, Dinosaur Train, Diego and every Thomas the Train movie ever made for my son.  The bonus is I'm not stuck with 27 separate DVD's once he's outgrown them.  This doesn't include the stuff the adults in the house watch.  In other words: still on par with Netflix and includes 2-day shipping.
 
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