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(Huffington Post UK)   United Sates secretary of state John Kerry and Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov yuck it up and tell old cold war jokes at Crimea meeting ending   (huffingtonpost.co.uk) divider line 62
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2014-03-14 09:37:38 PM  

The Bestest: CygnusDarius: North Korea should take this moment to do something... Crazy.

They fired off some scuds a couple of weeks ago and complained about the US-SK military drills.

No one cared.


I said crazy, not the usual antics.
 
2014-03-14 09:41:54 PM  

CygnusDarius: I said crazy, not the usual antics.


Fair enough.

/what WOULD count as "crazy" by Best Korea standards?
 
2014-03-14 09:44:48 PM  
So I said, 'Crimea river.'
 
2014-03-14 10:19:22 PM  

The Bestest: CygnusDarius: I said crazy, not the usual antics.

Fair enough.

/what WOULD count as "crazy" by Best Korea standards?


Full military mobilization level of crazy.
 
2014-03-14 10:55:48 PM  

spawn73: Infernalist:

That, combined with pushing Ukraine to join NATA as soon as humanly possible, Russia's going to find itself in a financial meltdown and NATO forces parked on their border with Ukraine.

Putin is a farking retard.

In 100 years Crimea will probably still be Russian. Thats probably Putins perspective on this.


It's on his finger now, try and take it.
 
2014-03-15 02:23:31 AM  

The Bestest: CygnusDarius: I said crazy, not the usual antics.

Fair enough.

/what WOULD count as "crazy" by Best Korea standards?


Attack China because it was getting too cosy with Worst Korea
 
2014-03-15 02:34:56 AM  
I'm really not sure I understand the sticking point, unless it's mobilization. If Russia wants to claim their troops are in there for peacekeeping purposes, why can't NATO put their own peacekeeping force in there? They've done it before.
 
2014-03-15 03:07:48 AM  

starsrift: If Russia wants to claim their troops are in there for peacekeeping purposes, why can't NATO put their own peacekeeping force in there?


Where - there?

First of all, NATO troops can't just walk into a country, any country. There is a complex process for any such development, and NATO members don't want to go there.

Generally, I don't think Putin would be against European peacekeeping forces in Western Ukraine, but nobody wants to do it. Additionally, Eastern Ukraine would not like it, and it would probably trigger its separation/autonomy.

Honestly, the final answer, I think, is that nobody actually cares about Ukraine enough to went through all that bother.
 
2014-03-15 09:22:11 AM  

Wooly Bully: Wow. The Russians attacked unarmed protestors and the Russian government is saying that the exact opposite happened:

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/03/14/witnesses-share-video-an d- accounts-of-deadly-attack-on-anti-war-rally-in-eastern-ukraine-by-russ ian-separatists/?action=click&contentCollection=Europe&module=RelatedC overage®ion=Marginalia&pgtype=article


think of Putin and Co. like a mafia-run GOP who still think it's the 1960's
 
2014-03-15 09:23:49 AM  

Grahor: starsrift: If Russia wants to claim their troops are in there for peacekeeping purposes, why can't NATO put their own peacekeeping force in there?

Where - there?

First of all, NATO troops can't just walk into a country, any country. There is a complex process for any such development, and NATO members don't want to go there.

Generally, I don't think Putin would be against European peacekeeping forces in Western Ukraine, but nobody wants to do it. Additionally, Eastern Ukraine would not like it, and it would probably trigger its separation/autonomy.

Honestly, the final answer, I think, is that nobody actually cares about Ukraine enough to went through all that bother.


if nobody cares then let the Russia take over all of Ukraine
 
2014-03-15 07:01:56 PM  
Sates?
 
2014-03-15 09:56:38 PM  
Whitman00, Infernalist and clambam hit the nail on the head earlier (oddly, having difficulty copying anything into here - so....sorry.  Look UP!)

The decision to take over the Crimea has no economic benefit to speak of - as stated above, tourism is number 1 and an advanced military presence won't help with that.  Also, water and power flow from mainland Ukraine.  There may be a useful leverage between Russia providing Gas through Ukraine in exchange for water and power to Crimea, but the leverage is all with the Ukrainians. If Russia tries to go further, it will be at the worst time of the year (strategically) and again, on the enemies home turf.  They can only go so far - and they'll actually be annexing some of the weaker parts of the state.  Russia is proposing to smother a generation of people's for very little to speak of.

Western Ukrainians understand having economic ties to the west will be immensely beneficial for them.  If you look at former East Bloc countries, Poland, Estonia, Romania, etc. many of them have become much more productive and prosperous, especially the Balkan TIgers of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. While they suffered during the downturn in 2009, they have much stronger and diverse economies than the states that are still more closely associated with Russia, such as the supposed Eurasian Union. If Ukraine has a choice between economic partnership (eventually) with the likes of Germany, France, Estonia, Switzerland, etc or Moldova, Tajikistan, and Russia (amongst others), where SHOULD they go?  Partnership with Russia is going to be 2 or 3 steps back from a potential prosperity 10 years down the road.

Maybe no one in the west cares much about the Ukraine, but it will still be a small tragedy.
 
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