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2014-03-14 02:08:49 PM
10 votes:
Good for them.  Every entity that stands up and says "This is bullshiat" when people try to discriminate - against anyone - is one more voice to be head.
2014-03-14 02:30:22 PM
7 votes:
I'm glad that they're doing it. Sad that companies are becoming more ethical than politicians.
2014-03-14 03:57:01 PM
3 votes:

zzzzt: Why do some gays feel the need to be in a parade?


why do straight people feel the need to be in a parade? If anything a parade is kinda gay...
2014-03-14 03:52:56 PM
3 votes:
Why do some gays feel the need to be in a parade?  I can understand if gays weren't allowed to walk with the firefighter's float or the classic cars, but for gays to walk in a group to announce that they are gay makes as much sense as a group of straight people in a parade with banners about some sexual position/act.  "Hey, look at me!  I like sex that you might disapprove of!  Look at me!"  Idiots.
2014-03-14 01:58:11 PM
3 votes:
Oh man, all the other brewers should pull out.  The first fully dry St. Patrick's Day parade!
2014-03-14 06:35:48 PM
2 votes:

Agent Nick Fury: deadsanta: gingerjet: That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.

What do veterans have to do with Saint Patricks Day?


Exactly. Plus the parade features floats and groups from unions, high schools, churches and local businesses, they let all those non-vet groups march to celebrate their Irishness, just not the gay-Irish.

Agree - veterans fought for freedom, high schools educate, businesses provide jobs, and homosexuals like to have penises in their mouths.

Same, same.



O my Gawd, you're totally right!  My son's sexuality is :

"Have cute crush on girl at six, start getting boners at 12, start thinking about what he'd like to do with them and with which girl, take a girl to homecoming that he hopes he gets to do those things with, but also likes to do other things with, grow older and date a girl with whom he wonders what his kids would look like, get his heart broken with that girl, date another girl and do marriage math (will she stay pretty, she seems to make good decisions that'll help us have a good life, will she ever cheat on me, is she funny, does she mind that I watch a lot of ____, my friends are getting married why not me cuz this girl is COOL!), get married, be awestruck and grateful when they hand me this baby we made, be proud of making it for ten years, hopefully til death do us part."

My friend's gay son's sexuality is:

"Have penis in mouth."

And that's the only agenda these people could possibly have!  Nothing else!  Not the right to join the army and fight for our freedom without being paranoid about personal life.  Not ability to go to school without fear.  Not fear of losing my job because the boss would and can toss a great employee because I can't control my urge to somehow gobble a knob.  Thanks for clearing up the difference between a real human life and the comic book character you've assigned to somebody else's.
2014-03-14 05:02:54 PM
2 votes:

Prophet of Loss: Tolerance is good business. I still won't patronize Chick-A-Fila. They give "Christians" a bad name.


He says without a hint of irony.

Welcome to "tolerance."
2014-03-14 04:59:56 PM
2 votes:
These are gay veterans.. right?... if so, they should march with their prospective branch in the expected uniform.. end of story.

Are they looking to have their own separate gay veterans group?... if so, that nothing more than attention whoring.

If you want to be treated normally and accepted.. then participate just like everyone else.
2014-03-14 04:21:57 PM
2 votes:

gingerjet: That Guy Jeff: I honestly have no idea what the details of the start of all this hubub is. The impression I got was someone said "lets put a gay pride float in a St Patrick's Day parade!" and the organizers said "Uh, no, it's a St Patrick's Day parade, not a gay pride parade." Of course, I'm entirely making up the conversation based on impressions from headlines. Maybe it's something insidious like "We are going to let all these different groups have a float, but gays can go fark themselves". I don't know. Either way, it seems to be good PR for Boston Beer, so good for them.

A veterans group that represents gay men and women wanted to march.  After much drama, finger pointing, and fake outrage - the veterans group that organizes the parade said no.  Its hard to get the real story of what happened but since St. Patricks day parades have been notoriously anti-gay in the past - I'm just going to blame the organizers.


Good summary.  I'd add that organizers are saying "But they're not really a veterans group ... They only have, like, one real veteran!"  Sounds like they tried to get the gay vets to promise they'd only go with regulation uniforms, colors, flags etc... Organizers are afraid they'll get a "We're here, we're queer" rainbow clown-car.  Which only makes the gay group dig in deeper, because what they're hearing is "Well, ok, but only if you act straight."
2014-03-14 04:09:23 PM
2 votes:

gingerjet: Dr Dreidel: What do non-Catholics have to do with St Patty's Day?

The Catholics aren't organizing the parade.  Its a veterans organization.  So I go back to my original question.

/catholic irish ginger here.  not a veteran.


Maybe I should rephrase: St Patty's Day, being a traditional Catholic feast celebrating a Catholic saint (the notion of sainthood being largely within the Catholic sphere anyway), why would non-Catholics be involved (or want to be involved) anyway?

// if it's a civic (from the Latin civis, meaning "civilian") event, it stays open to everyone
// actually, if it's a civic event, shouldn't it be closed to the military? :P
2014-03-14 04:00:59 PM
2 votes:

zzzzt: Why do some gays feel the need to be in a parade?  I can understand if gays weren't allowed to walk with the firefighter's float or the classic cars, but for gays to walk in a group to announce that they are gay makes as much sense as a group of straight people in a parade with banners about some sexual position/act.  "Hey, look at me!  I like sex that you might disapprove of!  Look at me!"  Idiots.


Maybe because being gay isn't just some icky sex thing. It's also about relationships and marriage.

You know, unless you see an elderly straight couple hold hands and can only picture them farking.
2014-03-14 03:55:28 PM
2 votes:

zzzzt: Why do some gays feel the need to be in a parade?


Why do some non gays feel the need to exclude any group from a parade?
2014-03-14 03:49:16 PM
2 votes:

That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.


What do veterans have to do with Saint Patricks Day?
2014-03-14 03:42:29 PM
2 votes:

That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.


Because there is such a thing as a gay Irish person?
2014-03-14 03:40:13 PM
2 votes:
As much as I hate their beer, good on Sam Adams.
2014-03-14 03:34:55 PM
2 votes:
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2014-03-14 02:01:01 PM
2 votes:

haemaker: Oh man, all the other brewers should pull out.  The first fully dry St. Patrick's Day parade!


If all the local brewers pull out, I wonder if they'd have to serve Bud and Coors at the breakfast

/the horror
//worst than going dry
2014-03-14 11:39:52 PM
1 votes:

doublesecretprobation: Agent Nick Fury: doublesecretprobation: I alone am best: So I dont get it.

The parade sponsor, backed by a Supreme Court ruling, has said that gays and lesbians have always been allowed to participate and that any form of political activism is banned to maintain the spirit of the parade. MassEquality rejected the condition that its group not march as openly gay veterans.

Whats the problem?

By that logic then the Disabled American Veterans should be forbidden from marching as well.

First person I ever farkied as "F'ing idiot".

Congrats.

Normally I'd just ignore you, but what exactly is so idiotic about my statement?



Your first instinct was probably correct.  I've been watching Agent Nick Fury for a while, over several threads, and I've seen him post a lot of crap worthy of plonking.

He's intellectually weak; his best posts are straw-man arguments (2 different threads), tu quoque projection, and generally stupid nonsense.  In terms of his personality or posting style, he is defensive, belligerent, dumb, harshly judgmental of others, and prone to insulting anyone he disagrees with, as you've witnessed.

Each of these adjectives describe specific behaviors I encountered in different threads (I assure you I'm not just tossing synonyms at you, they were separate offenses), and in all that time, I have never once noticed him saying ANYTHING that wasn't stupid, hateful, or hostile --- when not all three.

He is, in short, a complete waste of oxygen --- as far as I can tell.  Maybe underneath all that is a rational, decent human being, but so far, I have seen no evidence to support that hope.
2014-03-14 10:39:44 PM
1 votes:
More than the homophobia, it just bothers me that somebody wants to be controlling about who marches in a St. Patrick's day parade. It's a goddamn parade of drunks celebrating a made-up American holiday that's about getting shiatfaced. They should let whoever the hell wants to march in the stupid parade march in the stupid parade.
gja [TotalFark]
2014-03-14 09:02:18 PM
1 votes:

ciberido: Mr. Ekshun: Vodka Zombie: As much as I hate their beer, good on Sam Adams.

Eww, you put that in your mouth? You know, if you try it once that makes you a Sam Adams drinker.

You can build a thousand bridges, but if you drink ONE Same Adamas, they don't call you a bridge-builder.


Oh screw you putzs. Sam's is a nice brew. Especially summer brews.
Oh and this.
mo.worldclassbeer.com
2014-03-14 07:19:31 PM
1 votes:
I realized that I didn't say what I really meant here.  Let me rephrase something:

I can understand if gays weren't allowed to walk with the firefighter's float
should have been
I can understand being angry if gays weren't allowed to walk with the firefighter's float.

My argument is simply that putting yourself in front of a crowd to loudly voice your sexual preference is in terribly poor taste.
2014-03-14 05:24:46 PM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.

Because there is such a thing as a gay Irish person?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Norton
2014-03-14 04:42:06 PM
1 votes:

zzzzt: I can understand if gays weren't allowed to walk with the firefighter's float


Psssst, I'll let you in on a secret, there are gay firefighters - men and women.

So, STFU.
2014-03-14 04:37:52 PM
1 votes:

grimnir: Nobody here seems to give a flying shiat. Most of the people I've met find it bizarre that anyone would care who is gay or trans or whatever. Also, there are a lot more gay people who aren't in the closet, but aren't walking stereotypes - just people, who are gay. It's nice.


That's the problem with homosexuality still being taboo.  The sort of people who do come out tend to either be the sort of people who don't care about societal norms or are actively trying to go against them.  So you end up with a lot of openly gay people who are non-conformist/non-traditional in many other ways.

Reminds me of a story that came out the other day regarding kids with hyperactivity or autism disorders who have gender identity disorders.  Because they're not as aware of accepted social norms, or because less care or less impulse control, the reported rate of GID in kids with ADHD or ASD is several times higher than that of the general population.

Which makes you wonder how many people would come out as being gay or transgender if today's social norms were different.
2014-03-14 04:37:34 PM
1 votes:

R.A.Danny: zzzzt: Why do some gays feel the need to be in a parade?

Why do some non gays feel the need to exclude any group from a parade?


NOTE: I'm not defending but explaining how the bigots justify this particular objection to gay participation.

When gay pride became a phenomenon in the wake of the AIDS epidemic in the 1980s, leading members of the gay community encouraged and followed a rather aggressive, in-your-face approach towards what  was massive indifference to the plight of AIDS sufferers.  They didn't have any other option - protesting quietly would have meant death with no attention being paid to the problem.  Entering parades and displaying "gay pride" created uncomfortable situations for the parade organizers.  Here's a bunch of people that are dragging (yes, pun intended) in all kinds of problems that they aren't prepared to address.

First and foremost, AIDS and it's impacts, the fact there wasn't a good response to the situation by the government at any level.
Second, society norms about sexuality
Third, implied support for what was considered at the time "fringe" or "bizarre" standards of behavior.

Walking in a parade in assless leather chaps, wearing a collar and a cap with a shamrock over your penis wouldn't be considered "acceptable" attire but that's exactly what the parade organizers ended up being confronted with.  (Well, unless it's a gay pride parade in SF - go nuts man... make the shamrock out of fishnet and some wire, don't leave us guessing).  It just doesn't fit the decorum of most organizations sponsoring parades.

Gays are now considered significantly more mainstream, and these kinds of "displays" aren't the normal anymore.  Doesn't stop the generally conservative parade organizers from falling for the click bait served up by the truely bigoted.  The past "messaging" from the gay community doesn't excuse the exclusion.  So there you have it.  The reason they want to "exclude" gays is because they don't want whatever event, person or nationality the parade is to commemorate to have to "deal with" the rampant sexual repression that runs through the culture of the United States and become a platform for challenging that norm.
2014-03-14 03:56:05 PM
1 votes:

factoryconnection: A decision for which I look forward to our resident experts tearing them a new asshole for reasons.


They need to STFU and remember that politics and beer don't mix unless you want your nose busted.  Shut up and make good beer and lots of money.

/bar rules
2014-03-14 03:54:47 PM
1 votes:

gingerjet: That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.

What do veterans have to do with Saint Patricks Day?


What do non-Catholics have to do with St Patty's Day? I say, if y' nawt a papist, you can fahk off home.

// and anyone who pronounces terminal 'r's gets the sideyes
2014-03-14 03:46:58 PM
1 votes:
I hate that the St. Patrick's Day parades have taken this stance (NY has the same issue).  Good on Sam Adams.
2014-03-14 03:45:31 PM
1 votes:
In many ways Ireland seems to be years ahead of many in the Irish-American community with regard to LGBT rights. Ireland is holding a national referendum to allow same-sex marriage in their constitution next year (they already have civil unions), and it appears to have broad public support. Poll: 73% of public back allowing same-sex marriage in Constitution
2014-03-14 03:39:19 PM
1 votes:
I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.
2014-03-14 03:32:41 PM
1 votes:
FFS, what next?
2014-03-14 03:29:48 PM
1 votes:

haemaker: Oh man, all the other brewers should pull out.  The first fully dry St. Patrick's Day parade!


That's the thing that I've wondered about. Why are they concerened about THE GHEYS marching when they should be more concerned about the drunken stereotype attached to this day?
2014-03-14 02:45:52 PM
1 votes:
Fahkin free mahket, kid
2014-03-14 02:09:25 PM
1 votes:
LOL - paging Dr. Freud... Dr. Sigmund Freud, please call Admitting...

One more voice to be HEARD.
2014-03-14 01:54:52 PM
1 votes:
The gaygenda strikes again!
2014-03-14 01:47:53 PM
1 votes:
A decision for which I look forward to our resident experts tearing them a new asshole for reasons.
 
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