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2014-03-14 04:59:56 PM  
These are gay veterans.. right?... if so, they should march with their prospective branch in the expected uniform.. end of story.

Are they looking to have their own separate gay veterans group?... if so, that nothing more than attention whoring.

If you want to be treated normally and accepted.. then participate just like everyone else.
 
2014-03-14 05:00:26 PM  
Isn't it time we paid reparations to gays for being oppressed?
 
2014-03-14 05:02:54 PM  

Prophet of Loss: Tolerance is good business. I still won't patronize Chick-A-Fila. They give "Christians" a bad name.


He says without a hint of irony.

Welcome to "tolerance."
 
2014-03-14 05:03:34 PM  

gingerjet: Dr Dreidel: Maybe I should rephrase: St Patty's Day, being a traditional Catholic feast celebrating a Catholic saint (the notion of sainthood being largely within the Catholic sphere anyway), why would non-Catholics be involved (or want to be involved) anyway?

Is that a serious question?  Maybe like many celebrations that had some root in a certain religion or culture - the celebration went mainstream at some point and all sorts of now groups celebrate it.    See Christmas.

And again - this isn't being organized by a Catholic organization or church.  Its veterans organization who has organized it for veterans.  I hear there are at least 1 or 2 veterans who aren't Catholic (I was shocked to hear that too).



This keeps getting repeated and its still wrong: It might be a veteran's group that organizes the parade (in fact there are two that do it), however they give permits to floats for high schools, unions, civic organizations (like Masons, rotary clubs, etc) and whomever they please... just not any gay organization, be they Irish-Catholic or no. So it was OK to give a float to a catholic high school who had no veterans and who was going to boycott if any gays were permitted to march in the parade, but not to a gay-Irish-Catholic group who wasn't going to boycott if a bunch of townie bigots were allowed to march.

Who got farked? The gays, naturally.

Anyway, w/e its a bullshiat parade for a bunch of drunken louts, Sam Adams is actually better off not being associated with it, IMO, keep working at being a Boston, MA, beer nationally and internationally and not an Irish Catholic beer.
 
2014-03-14 05:03:42 PM  

firemanbuck: zzzzt: I can understand if gays weren't allowed to walk with the firefighter's float

Psssst, I'll let you in on a secret, there are gay firefighters - men and women.

So, STFU.


I call bullshiat.  I remember a Policeman, a Cowboy, an Indian, a Construction Worker, a Soldier, and a Biker, but no firefighter.

\YMCA!
 
2014-03-14 05:03:54 PM  
Good for them.

Still think their beer sucks.
 
2014-03-14 05:03:57 PM  

Paris1127: What's wrong with letting the gay groups march? Chicago's been letting them march in the St. Patrick's Day Parade since 1994...


the cubs?
 
2014-03-14 05:04:18 PM  

factoryconnection: A decision for which I look forward to our resident experts tearing them a new asshole for reasons.


Why a new asshole?  What's wrong with the old one?  All worn out and sloppy?
 
2014-03-14 05:05:49 PM  

Headso: Paris1127: What's wrong with letting the gay groups march? Chicago's been letting them march in the St. Patrick's Day Parade since 1994...

the cubs?


Zing!
 
2014-03-14 05:07:05 PM  

CheekyMonkey: firemanbuck: zzzzt: I can understand if gays weren't allowed to walk with the firefighter's float

Psssst, I'll let you in on a secret, there are gay firefighters - men and women.

So, STFU.

I call bullshiat.  I remember a Policeman, a Cowboy, an Indian, a Construction Worker, a Soldier, and a Biker, but no firefighter.

\YMCA!


It was their worst oversight as a People....
 
2014-03-14 05:07:45 PM  

deadsanta: Headso: Paris1127: What's wrong with letting the gay groups march? Chicago's been letting them march in the St. Patrick's Day Parade since 1994...

the cubs?

Zing!


Da Bears?
 
2014-03-14 05:09:09 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Good for them.  Every entity that stands up and says "This is bullshiat" when people try to discriminate - against anyone - is one more voice to be head.


What she said.
 
2014-03-14 05:10:55 PM  

CheekyMonkey: firemanbuck: zzzzt: I can understand if gays weren't allowed to walk with the firefighter's float

Psssst, I'll let you in on a secret, there are gay firefighters - men and women.

So, STFU.

I call bullshiat.  I remember a Policeman, a Cowboy, an Indian, a Construction Worker, a Soldier, and a Biker, but no firefighter.

\YMCA!


They didn't need another first-responder like a firefighter. They already had THE HOTTEST COP ON THE DISCO SCENE.
 
2014-03-14 05:24:46 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.

Because there is such a thing as a gay Irish person?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Norton
 
gja
2014-03-14 05:26:45 PM  

somedude210: haemaker: Oh man, all the other brewers should pull out.  The first fully dry St. Patrick's Day parade!

If all the local brewers pull out, I wonder if they'd have to serve Bud and Coors at the breakfast

/the horror
//worst than going dry


Oh you effing HEATHEN! COORS?!?! BUD?!?!
Would rather drink sewer oil.......at least there IS a flavor.
 
2014-03-14 05:28:45 PM  
So I dont get it.

The parade sponsor, backed by a Supreme Court ruling, has said that gays and lesbians have always been allowed to participate and that any form of political activism is banned to maintain the spirit of the parade. MassEquality rejected the condition that its group not march as openly gay veterans.

Whats the problem?
 
2014-03-14 05:31:20 PM  
I'm a hardcore beer snob and I love the Boston Beer Company. They don't make the best beers in the world, but they're consistent. I like them more for their ethos though. They preach the gospel of elevating expectations of beer. Also, those 10 bearded hipsters in all their commercials are the actual guys working at their brewery in JP and they exude a love for what they do.

I'm pretty sure Boston Lager was my gateway to the world of craft beers.

\should get my 500th distinct checkin on Untappd this weekend
 
2014-03-14 05:32:28 PM  

Ambivalence: Why does anyone feel the need to march in a parade?


Or mince, as the case may be.
 
2014-03-14 05:34:40 PM  

deadsanta: gingerjet: That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.

What do veterans have to do with Saint Patricks Day?


Exactly. Plus the parade features floats and groups from unions, high schools, churches and local businesses, they let all those non-vet groups march to celebrate their Irishness, just not the gay-Irish.


Agree - veterans fought for freedom, high schools educate, businesses provide jobs, and homosexuals like to have penises in their mouths.

Same, same.
 
2014-03-14 05:35:49 PM  

R.A.Danny: I imagine the haters will look like McGovern in front of the school in 50 years.


wat?
 
2014-03-14 05:37:43 PM  

Mr_Fabulous: R.A.Danny: I imagine the haters will look like McGovern in front of the school in 50 years.

wat?


Totally meant Wallace. Jesus I need to go home.
 
2014-03-14 05:41:00 PM  

All2morrowsparTs: Ow! That was my feelings!: Space Station Wagon: Aar1012: haemaker: Oh man, all the other brewers should pull out.  The first fully dry St. Patrick's Day parade!

That's the thing that I've wondered about. Why are they concerened about THE GHEYS marching when they should be more concerned about the drunken stereotype attached to this day?

So much this^

No other group would allow this type of portrayal.

Probably.
[pilot-petes.com image 600x574]

Most Mexicans don't celebrate the Battle of Puebla.

It's mostly an American tradition of celebrating the drinking of tequila and eating of nachos whole wearing straw sombreros they got from Chevy's during the office going away party when Bill "the temp" gotta better paying job with benefits but still not fully utilizing his philosophy degree from that New England Liberal arts college where he wanted to get away from his parents even though they wanted him to go to state school and study business.

Most Mexicans will still accept the complimentary shot, though, while clearing the table.


You must not live in California, Mexican Americans love Cinco De Mayo, it's like their July 4th.
 
2014-03-14 05:42:22 PM  

That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.


What do veterans have to do with St. Patrick's Day?
 
2014-03-14 05:42:34 PM  
Gay veterans marching in a Saint Paddy's Day parade for the first time in the history of gay or veterans or Saint Paddy's Day or parades. Hey, go have a beer on me, you farking homos.

/please read that in the voice of Colin Sullivan
 
2014-03-14 05:43:52 PM  
Harpoon is better than Sam Adams. It kinda sounds like Sam Adams was just pressured by local taverns to back out of it.
 
2014-03-14 05:45:14 PM  

I alone am best: So I dont get it.

The parade sponsor, backed by a Supreme Court ruling, has said that gays and lesbians have always been allowed to participate and that any form of political activism is banned to maintain the spirit of the parade. MassEquality rejected the condition that its group not march as openly gay veterans.

Whats the problem?


Don't wait here for an answer
 
2014-03-14 05:51:55 PM  

I alone am best: So I dont get it.

The parade sponsor, backed by a Supreme Court ruling, has said that gays and lesbians have always been allowed to participate and that any form of political activism is banned to maintain the spirit of the parade. MassEquality rejected the condition that its group not march as openly gay veterans.

Whats the problem?


By that logic then the Disabled American Veterans should be forbidden from marching as well.
 
2014-03-14 05:54:20 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.

Because there is such a thing as a gay Irish person?




So they couldn't just march as an Irish person. Is their some reason to in effect add a hyphen? What next a special category for the Irish with peanut allergies or those who are asexual? What if the various subdivisions of the gay "community " demand separate recognition for themselves transformers , lesbos, bi etc. both veteran non-veteran sub categories.


This demanding inclusion but what to be separate does not make sense. Would not being Irish or Irish veteran be enough?

Not Irish so no real dog in this hunt except never understanding the big deal over being Irish. One of the most conquered groups of people in history.
 
2014-03-14 05:58:09 PM  

SlothB77: the comments in TFA offend me for many reasons, not the least being the awful tastes people have in beer.


Reading a post of yours that I agree with is an odd feeling.
 
2014-03-14 05:58:43 PM  

doublesecretprobation: I alone am best: So I dont get it.

The parade sponsor, backed by a Supreme Court ruling, has said that gays and lesbians have always been allowed to participate and that any form of political activism is banned to maintain the spirit of the parade. MassEquality rejected the condition that its group not march as openly gay veterans.

Whats the problem?

By that logic then the Disabled American Veterans should be forbidden from marching as well.


First person I ever farkied as "F'ing idiot".

Congrats.
 
2014-03-14 05:59:14 PM  

hasty ambush: cameroncrazy1984: That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.

Because there is such a thing as a gay Irish person?

So they couldn't just march as an Irish person. Is their some reason to in effect add a hyphen? What next a special category for the Irish with peanut allergies or those who are asexual? What if the various subdivisions of the gay "community " demand separate recognition for themselves transformers , lesbos, bi etc. both veteran non-veteran sub categories.


This demanding inclusion but what to be separate does not make sense. Would not being Irish or Irish veteran be enough?

Not Irish so no real dog in this hunt except never understanding the big deal over being Irish. One of the most conquered groups of people in history.


Why do the Irish veterans need to march as veterans? Why not just Irish? And why do the Irish Catholic high schools need to march as Irish Catholic high schools? Why not just Irish?
 
2014-03-14 06:09:47 PM  

deadsanta: That Guy Jeff: gingerjet: That Guy Jeff: I honestly have no idea what the details of the start of all this hubub is. The impression I got was someone said "lets put a gay pride float in a St Patrick's Day parade!" and the organizers said "Uh, no, it's a St Patrick's Day parade, not a gay pride parade." Of course, I'm entirely making up the conversation based on impressions from headlines. Maybe it's something insidious like "We are going to let all these different groups have a float, but gays can go fark themselves". I don't know. Either way, it seems to be good PR for Boston Beer, so good for them.

A veterans group that represents gay men and women wanted to march.  After much drama, finger pointing, and fake outrage - the veterans group that organizes the parade said no.  Its hard to get the real story of what happened but since St. Patricks day parades have been notoriously anti-gay in the past - I'm just going to blame the organizers.

Do they generally let just any group march? If they do, then shame on them for excluding gays. That's a dick move and they are totally in the wrong. If they don't, props to them for keeping the parade theme consistent. Like, I wouldn't expect to see a gay float in the Main Street Electrical parade either, no matter how gay-friendly Disney is. I don't know if I should be outraged or not.


Like I said before, they have schools, local unions, bands, and businesses marching and riding floats, and unless there's an all-veteran high school out there I think we can safely assume that the common denominator is "Irishness" not "Veteran" for the parade.


never heard of MLK day parades?  There's one just outside my apartment every year, running down Colfax, all the way to downtown Denver.  Black Arch Diocese runs half of it.

/I like it because the police do a sweep the week before and again 4 days before, and once more 2 days before to get the dealers off the parade route
 
2014-03-14 06:17:05 PM  

TheJoe03: All2morrowsparTs: Ow! That was my feelings!: Space Station Wagon: Aar1012: haemaker: Oh man, all the other brewers should pull out.  The first fully dry St. Patrick's Day parade!

That's the thing that I've wondered about. Why are they concerened about THE GHEYS marching when they should be more concerned about the drunken stereotype attached to this day?

So much this^

No other group would allow this type of portrayal.

Probably.
[pilot-petes.com image 600x574]

Most Mexicans don't celebrate the Battle of Puebla.

It's mostly an American tradition of celebrating the drinking of tequila and eating of nachos whole wearing straw sombreros they got from Chevy's during the office going away party when Bill "the temp" gotta better paying job with benefits but still not fully utilizing his philosophy degree from that New England Liberal arts college where he wanted to get away from his parents even though they wanted him to go to state school and study business.

Most Mexicans will still accept the complimentary shot, though, while clearing the table.

You must not live in California, Mexican Americans love Cinco De Mayo, it's like their July 4th.


I live in San Francisco, so maybe they are all from Puebla where you are from. The Mexicans that celebrate here are all named Thad and live in the Marina.
 
2014-03-14 06:26:24 PM  

All2morrowsparTs: TheJoe03: All2morrowsparTs: Ow! That was my feelings!: Space Station Wagon: Aar1012: haemaker: Oh man, all the other brewers should pull out.  The first fully dry St. Patrick's Day parade!

That's the thing that I've wondered about. Why are they concerened about THE GHEYS marching when they should be more concerned about the drunken stereotype attached to this day?

So much this^

No other group would allow this type of portrayal.

Probably.
[pilot-petes.com image 600x574]

Most Mexicans don't celebrate the Battle of Puebla.

It's mostly an American tradition of celebrating the drinking of tequila and eating of nachos whole wearing straw sombreros they got from Chevy's during the office going away party when Bill "the temp" gotta better paying job with benefits but still not fully utilizing his philosophy degree from that New England Liberal arts college where he wanted to get away from his parents even though they wanted him to go to state school and study business.

Most Mexicans will still accept the complimentary shot, though, while clearing the table.

You must not live in California, Mexican Americans love Cinco De Mayo, it's like their July 4th.

I live in San Francisco, so maybe they are all from Puebla where you are from. The Mexicans that celebrate here are all named Thad and live in the Marina.


I live in San Jose, which unlike SF, actually has a sizable Mexican population.
 
2014-03-14 06:28:15 PM  

Agent Nick Fury: doublesecretprobation: I alone am best: So I dont get it.

The parade sponsor, backed by a Supreme Court ruling, has said that gays and lesbians have always been allowed to participate and that any form of political activism is banned to maintain the spirit of the parade. MassEquality rejected the condition that its group not march as openly gay veterans.

Whats the problem?

By that logic then the Disabled American Veterans should be forbidden from marching as well.

First person I ever farkied as "F'ing idiot".

Congrats.


Normally I'd just ignore you, but what exactly is so idiotic about my statement?
 
2014-03-14 06:35:48 PM  

Agent Nick Fury: deadsanta: gingerjet: That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.

What do veterans have to do with Saint Patricks Day?


Exactly. Plus the parade features floats and groups from unions, high schools, churches and local businesses, they let all those non-vet groups march to celebrate their Irishness, just not the gay-Irish.

Agree - veterans fought for freedom, high schools educate, businesses provide jobs, and homosexuals like to have penises in their mouths.

Same, same.



O my Gawd, you're totally right!  My son's sexuality is :

"Have cute crush on girl at six, start getting boners at 12, start thinking about what he'd like to do with them and with which girl, take a girl to homecoming that he hopes he gets to do those things with, but also likes to do other things with, grow older and date a girl with whom he wonders what his kids would look like, get his heart broken with that girl, date another girl and do marriage math (will she stay pretty, she seems to make good decisions that'll help us have a good life, will she ever cheat on me, is she funny, does she mind that I watch a lot of ____, my friends are getting married why not me cuz this girl is COOL!), get married, be awestruck and grateful when they hand me this baby we made, be proud of making it for ten years, hopefully til death do us part."

My friend's gay son's sexuality is:

"Have penis in mouth."

And that's the only agenda these people could possibly have!  Nothing else!  Not the right to join the army and fight for our freedom without being paranoid about personal life.  Not ability to go to school without fear.  Not fear of losing my job because the boss would and can toss a great employee because I can't control my urge to somehow gobble a knob.  Thanks for clearing up the difference between a real human life and the comic book character you've assigned to somebody else's.
 
2014-03-14 06:41:07 PM  

TheJoe03: I live in San Jose, which unlike SF, actually has a sizable Mexican population.


Sorry to hear that, not about the Mexicans, San Jose. I keed I keed.
 
2014-03-14 06:48:28 PM  

All2morrowsparTs: TheJoe03: I live in San Jose, which unlike SF, actually has a sizable Mexican population.

Sorry to hear that, not about the Mexicans, San Jose. I keed I keed.


Let's just say I choose to live here over SF, as crazy as that sounds to y'all. You got a great city for tourism though, better than Santa Cruz and that population of unwelcoming assholes.
 
2014-03-14 07:03:42 PM  
How the hell would anyone know whether a marching military guy was gay or straight?  Oh wait...

"Look at us, we're you gay militaraaay!  We can march with an AK-47 up our arses and don't even ask us about our fartses".

Never mind.
 
2014-03-14 07:07:33 PM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Harpoon is better than Sam Adams. It kinda sounds like Sam Adams was just pressured by local taverns to back out of it.


I can't imagine a local tavern, even a few local taverns, would have that much influence on their bottom line.

This was a genuine 'fark you' to the organizers
 
2014-03-14 07:15:27 PM  
The comments in the article are derptastic, but that's pretty much what I expect on any article that covers anything about gays.  I'm fine with this.  They're losing the battle, and they are kicking and screaming the whole way down.  I'm not above enjoying the schadenfreud.
 
2014-03-14 07:15:46 PM  

Lando Lincoln: That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.

What do veterans have to do with St. Patrick's Day?


What do Americans have to do with St Patrick?
 
2014-03-14 07:16:39 PM  
what is the beer equivalent to santorum?
 
2014-03-14 07:16:42 PM  

Agent Nick Fury: deadsanta: gingerjet: That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.

What do veterans have to do with Saint Patricks Day?


Exactly. Plus the parade features floats and groups from unions, high schools, churches and local businesses, they let all those non-vet groups march to celebrate their Irishness, just not the gay-Irish.

Agree - veterans fought for freedom, high schools educate, businesses provide jobs, and homosexuals like to have penises in their mouths.

Same, same.


Veterans and gays are an intersecting set of people.

There's fundamentally no difference to the organizers excluding a black veterans organization.

Who cares what criteria is used by the attending organization to identify as long as its legal and not directly polar opposite in ethos to that over the organizers. Which it isnt.
 
2014-03-14 07:16:59 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Because there is such a thing as a gay Irish person?


God loves the Irish!
Unless, of course, you're gay
That was their pronouncement as the pipes begin to play
You can be a con, a Mafia Don, we'll laugh it all away
But you can't be Irish if you're gay!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjZscwQG2EI
 
2014-03-14 07:19:31 PM  
I realized that I didn't say what I really meant here.  Let me rephrase something:

I can understand if gays weren't allowed to walk with the firefighter's float
should have been
I can understand being angry if gays weren't allowed to walk with the firefighter's float.

My argument is simply that putting yourself in front of a crowd to loudly voice your sexual preference is in terribly poor taste.
 
2014-03-14 07:19:45 PM  
Man, you can sure tell when the douchebags get off work and internet-up.
 
2014-03-14 07:20:13 PM  

I alone am best: So I dont get it.

The parade sponsor, backed by a Supreme Court ruling, has said that gays and lesbians have always been allowed to participate and that any form of political activism is banned to maintain the spirit of the parade. MassEquality rejected the condition that its group not march as openly gay veterans.

Whats the problem?


The assumption that being gay is a political statement and not an expression of their identity.

They are not campaigning to make you gay.
 
2014-03-14 07:25:43 PM  
Do they let Protestants march in the St. Patrick's Day parade?  If so, then they've lost all excuse to exclude anyone.
 
2014-03-14 07:27:20 PM  
Fwiw...the song Danny Boy seems terribly gay to me. Lines like..
"For you will bend and tell me that you love me,"

// NTTATWWT
 
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