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(Boston Herald)   Management at Sam Adams Brewery show their true colors: Rainbow   (bostonherald.com) divider line 184
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2014-03-14 01:47:53 PM  
A decision for which I look forward to our resident experts tearing them a new asshole for reasons.
 
2014-03-14 01:54:52 PM  
The gaygenda strikes again!
 
2014-03-14 01:58:11 PM  
Oh man, all the other brewers should pull out.  The first fully dry St. Patrick's Day parade!
 
2014-03-14 02:01:01 PM  

haemaker: Oh man, all the other brewers should pull out.  The first fully dry St. Patrick's Day parade!


If all the local brewers pull out, I wonder if they'd have to serve Bud and Coors at the breakfast

/the horror
//worst than going dry
 
2014-03-14 02:08:49 PM  
Good for them.  Every entity that stands up and says "This is bullshiat" when people try to discriminate - against anyone - is one more voice to be head.
 
2014-03-14 02:09:25 PM  
LOL - paging Dr. Freud... Dr. Sigmund Freud, please call Admitting...

One more voice to be HEARD.
 
2014-03-14 02:30:22 PM  
I'm glad that they're doing it. Sad that companies are becoming more ethical than politicians.
 
2014-03-14 02:44:18 PM  
So the gay agenda is to defund a parade? Somehow, that seems counterintuitive.
 
2014-03-14 02:45:52 PM  
Fahkin free mahket, kid
 
2014-03-14 03:12:08 PM  
the comments in TFA offend me for many reasons, not the least being the awful tastes people have in beer.
 
2014-03-14 03:27:49 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Good for them.  Every entity that stands up and says "This is bullshiat" when people try to discriminate - against anyone - is one more voice to be head.


some joke about beer head and getting head.txt
 
2014-03-14 03:28:08 PM  

SlothB77: the comments in TFA offend me for many reasons, not the least being the awful tastes people have in beer.


The Herald is the NY Post of Boston.
 
2014-03-14 03:29:48 PM  

haemaker: Oh man, all the other brewers should pull out.  The first fully dry St. Patrick's Day parade!


That's the thing that I've wondered about. Why are they concerened about THE GHEYS marching when they should be more concerned about the drunken stereotype attached to this day?
 
2014-03-14 03:32:41 PM  
FFS, what next?
 
2014-03-14 03:34:55 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-14 03:36:56 PM  

haemaker: Oh man, all the other brewers should pull out.


Will that make a popping noise?
 
2014-03-14 03:39:19 PM  
I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.
 
2014-03-14 03:39:27 PM  
There's some Bostonians who are afraid they will get black out drunk and start making out with one of the gay marchers, that would suck wicked bad.
 
2014-03-14 03:40:13 PM  
As much as I hate their beer, good on Sam Adams.
 
2014-03-14 03:42:29 PM  

That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.


Because there is such a thing as a gay Irish person?
 
2014-03-14 03:45:31 PM  
In many ways Ireland seems to be years ahead of many in the Irish-American community with regard to LGBT rights. Ireland is holding a national referendum to allow same-sex marriage in their constitution next year (they already have civil unions), and it appears to have broad public support. Poll: 73% of public back allowing same-sex marriage in Constitution
 
2014-03-14 03:46:38 PM  
Sam Adams generally does not promote pulling out
 
2014-03-14 03:46:58 PM  
I hate that the St. Patrick's Day parades have taken this stance (NY has the same issue).  Good on Sam Adams.
 
2014-03-14 03:47:01 PM  

Vodka Zombie: As much as I hate their beer, good on Sam Adams.


img1.etsystatic.com
 
2014-03-14 03:47:45 PM  

Aar1012: haemaker: Oh man, all the other brewers should pull out.  The first fully dry St. Patrick's Day parade!

That's the thing that I've wondered about. Why are they concerened about THE GHEYS marching when they should be more concerned about the drunken stereotype attached to this day?


So much this^

No other group would allow this type of portrayal.
 
2014-03-14 03:48:03 PM  

lockers: [img.fark.net image 718x550]


Whatever happened to that sight? No change except for one lame single-pic comic addition since December.
 
2014-03-14 03:48:36 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Because there is such a thing as a gay Irish person?


Hugh Fitzpatrick and Patrick Fitzhugh wave their dicks in your general direction.
 
2014-03-14 03:49:07 PM  
This should be good...

gifrific.com
 
2014-03-14 03:49:16 PM  

That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.


What do veterans have to do with Saint Patricks Day?
 
2014-03-14 03:49:55 PM  

Vodka Zombie: As much as I hate their beer, good on Sam Adams.


Eww, you put that in your mouth? You know, if you try it once that makes you a Sam Adams drinker.
 
2014-03-14 03:50:53 PM  
Why do you think St. Patrick drove all the snakes out of Ireland? Homophobia, that's why. He was afraid one would crawl up his ass and infect him with teh ghey.

/It's true, I saw it on Wikipedia
//Until some asshole reverted my edit
 
2014-03-14 03:52:56 PM  
Why do some gays feel the need to be in a parade?  I can understand if gays weren't allowed to walk with the firefighter's float or the classic cars, but for gays to walk in a group to announce that they are gay makes as much sense as a group of straight people in a parade with banners about some sexual position/act.  "Hey, look at me!  I like sex that you might disapprove of!  Look at me!"  Idiots.
 
2014-03-14 03:54:44 PM  

gingerjet: That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.

What do veterans have to do with Saint Patricks Day?



Exactly. Plus the parade features floats and groups from unions, high schools, churches and local businesses, they let all those non-vet groups march to celebrate their Irishness, just not the gay-Irish.
 
2014-03-14 03:54:47 PM  

gingerjet: That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.

What do veterans have to do with Saint Patricks Day?


What do non-Catholics have to do with St Patty's Day? I say, if y' nawt a papist, you can fahk off home.

// and anyone who pronounces terminal 'r's gets the sideyes
 
2014-03-14 03:55:07 PM  
I was drinking Sam Adams before it was cool
 
2014-03-14 03:55:28 PM  

zzzzt: Why do some gays feel the need to be in a parade?


Why do some non gays feel the need to exclude any group from a parade?
 
2014-03-14 03:56:05 PM  

factoryconnection: A decision for which I look forward to our resident experts tearing them a new asshole for reasons.


They need to STFU and remember that politics and beer don't mix unless you want your nose busted.  Shut up and make good beer and lots of money.

/bar rules
 
2014-03-14 03:56:30 PM  
Gays and beer.

This thread is relevant to my interests....
 
2014-03-14 03:57:01 PM  

zzzzt: Why do some gays feel the need to be in a parade?


why do straight people feel the need to be in a parade? If anything a parade is kinda gay...
 
2014-03-14 03:57:28 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.

Because there is such a thing as a gay Irish person?


I'm sure there's all sorts of variations of people that happen to be Irish. I'm also quite sure that they don't all have parade floats, and that a parade containing a float for every group an Irish person has ever identified with would be ridiculously long.

I honestly have no idea what the details of the start of all this hubub is. The impression I got was someone said "lets put a gay pride float in a St Patrick's Day parade!" and the organizers said "Uh, no, it's a St Patrick's Day parade, not a gay pride parade." Of course, I'm entirely making up the conversation based on impressions from headlines. Maybe it's something insidious like "We are going to let all these different groups have a float, but gays can go fark themselves". I don't know. Either way, it seems to be good PR for Boston Beer, so good for them.
 
2014-03-14 03:59:31 PM  

AngryDragon: I was drinking Sam Adams before it was cool


Odd, since it's never (and never will be) cool to drink that swill.
 
2014-03-14 03:59:45 PM  

Dr Dreidel: What do non-Catholics have to do with St Patty's Day?


The Catholics aren't organizing the parade.  Its a veterans organization.  So I go back to my original question.

/catholic irish ginger here.  not a veteran.
 
2014-03-14 04:00:59 PM  

zzzzt: Why do some gays feel the need to be in a parade?  I can understand if gays weren't allowed to walk with the firefighter's float or the classic cars, but for gays to walk in a group to announce that they are gay makes as much sense as a group of straight people in a parade with banners about some sexual position/act.  "Hey, look at me!  I like sex that you might disapprove of!  Look at me!"  Idiots.


Maybe because being gay isn't just some icky sex thing. It's also about relationships and marriage.

You know, unless you see an elderly straight couple hold hands and can only picture them farking.
 
2014-03-14 04:02:03 PM  

That Guy Jeff: I honestly have no idea what the details of the start of all this hubub is. The impression I got was someone said "lets put a gay pride float in a St Patrick's Day parade!" and the organizers said "Uh, no, it's a St Patrick's Day parade, not a gay pride parade." Of course, I'm entirely making up the conversation based on impressions from headlines. Maybe it's something insidious like "We are going to let all these different groups have a float, but gays can go fark themselves". I don't know. Either way, it seems to be good PR for Boston Beer, so good for them.


A veterans group that represents gay men and women wanted to march.  After much drama, finger pointing, and fake outrage - the veterans group that organizes the parade said no.  Its hard to get the real story of what happened but since St. Patricks day parades have been notoriously anti-gay in the past - I'm just going to blame the organizers.
 
2014-03-14 04:02:29 PM  
I might just go buy a pack, even though the only beer of their's I like is out of season. Alas.
 
Bf+
2014-03-14 04:02:35 PM  
Not exactly surprising if you know what I mean...
www.oregoncatalyst.com

/I don't know what I mean.
 
2014-03-14 04:03:32 PM  

Space Station Wagon: Aar1012: haemaker: Oh man, all the other brewers should pull out.  The first fully dry St. Patrick's Day parade!

That's the thing that I've wondered about. Why are they concerened about THE GHEYS marching when they should be more concerned about the drunken stereotype attached to this day?

So much this^

No other group would allow this type of portrayal.


Probably.
pilot-petes.com
 
2014-03-14 04:03:36 PM  

Vodka Zombie: As much as I hate their beer, good on Sam Adams.

 
2014-03-14 04:08:34 PM  
Sam Adams beer is fine. It's no Old Style, but it will get you where you're going.
 
2014-03-14 04:09:01 PM  
But, I thought the best part about being gay was that you didn't have to pull out!?
 
2014-03-14 04:09:18 PM  

gingerjet: That Guy Jeff: I honestly have no idea what the details of the start of all this hubub is. The impression I got was someone said "lets put a gay pride float in a St Patrick's Day parade!" and the organizers said "Uh, no, it's a St Patrick's Day parade, not a gay pride parade." Of course, I'm entirely making up the conversation based on impressions from headlines. Maybe it's something insidious like "We are going to let all these different groups have a float, but gays can go fark themselves". I don't know. Either way, it seems to be good PR for Boston Beer, so good for them.

A veterans group that represents gay men and women wanted to march.  After much drama, finger pointing, and fake outrage - the veterans group that organizes the parade said no.  Its hard to get the real story of what happened but since St. Patricks day parades have been notoriously anti-gay in the past - I'm just going to blame the organizers.


Do they generally let just any group march? If they do, then shame on them for excluding gays. That's a dick move and they are totally in the wrong. If they don't, props to them for keeping the parade theme consistent. Like, I wouldn't expect to see a gay float in the Main Street Electrical parade either, no matter how gay-friendly Disney is. I don't know if I should be outraged or not.
 
2014-03-14 04:09:23 PM  

gingerjet: Dr Dreidel: What do non-Catholics have to do with St Patty's Day?

The Catholics aren't organizing the parade.  Its a veterans organization.  So I go back to my original question.

/catholic irish ginger here.  not a veteran.


Maybe I should rephrase: St Patty's Day, being a traditional Catholic feast celebrating a Catholic saint (the notion of sainthood being largely within the Catholic sphere anyway), why would non-Catholics be involved (or want to be involved) anyway?

// if it's a civic (from the Latin civis, meaning "civilian") event, it stays open to everyone
// actually, if it's a civic event, shouldn't it be closed to the military? :P
 
2014-03-14 04:12:17 PM  

zzzzt: Why do some gays feel the need to be in a parade?  I can understand if gays weren't allowed to walk with the firefighter's float or the classic cars, but for gays to walk in a group to announce that they are gay makes as much sense as a group of straight people in a parade with banners about some sexual position/act.  "Hey, look at me!  I like sex that you might disapprove of!  Look at me!"  Idiots.


After a generation or two, it'll be so normalized that nobody will care.  Just look at how rare civil rights groups and women's suffrage groups are in parades today.
 
2014-03-14 04:13:29 PM  
I have my homophobic opinions about gay parades.  But when I picture Gay Veterans marching in a parade I picture men and women in uniform carrying the American flag and rainbow flag.
 
2014-03-14 04:13:31 PM  

Dr Dreidel: gingerjet: Dr Dreidel: What do non-Catholics have to do with St Patty's Day?

The Catholics aren't organizing the parade.  Its a veterans organization.  So I go back to my original question.

/catholic irish ginger here.  not a veteran.

Maybe I should rephrase: St Patty's Day, being a traditional Catholic feast celebrating a Catholic saint (the notion of sainthood being largely within the Catholic sphere anyway), why would non-Catholics be involved (or want to be involved) anyway?

// if it's a civic (from the Latin civis, meaning "civilian") event, it stays open to everyone
// actually, if it's a civic event, shouldn't it be closed to the military? :P


Drinking.
 
2014-03-14 04:14:33 PM  

That Guy Jeff: gingerjet: That Guy Jeff: I honestly have no idea what the details of the start of all this hubub is. The impression I got was someone said "lets put a gay pride float in a St Patrick's Day parade!" and the organizers said "Uh, no, it's a St Patrick's Day parade, not a gay pride parade." Of course, I'm entirely making up the conversation based on impressions from headlines. Maybe it's something insidious like "We are going to let all these different groups have a float, but gays can go fark themselves". I don't know. Either way, it seems to be good PR for Boston Beer, so good for them.

A veterans group that represents gay men and women wanted to march.  After much drama, finger pointing, and fake outrage - the veterans group that organizes the parade said no.  Its hard to get the real story of what happened but since St. Patricks day parades have been notoriously anti-gay in the past - I'm just going to blame the organizers.

Do they generally let just any group march? If they do, then shame on them for excluding gays. That's a dick move and they are totally in the wrong. If they don't, props to them for keeping the parade theme consistent. Like, I wouldn't expect to see a gay float in the Main Street Electrical parade either, no matter how gay-friendly Disney is. I don't know if I should be outraged or not.



Like I said before, they have schools, local unions, bands, and businesses marching and riding floats, and unless there's an all-veteran high school out there I think we can safely assume that the common denominator is "Irishness" not "Veteran" for the parade.
 
2014-03-14 04:15:01 PM  

Dinjiin: zzzzt: Why do some gays feel the need to be in a parade?  I can understand if gays weren't allowed to walk with the firefighter's float or the classic cars, but for gays to walk in a group to announce that they are gay makes as much sense as a group of straight people in a parade with banners about some sexual position/act.  "Hey, look at me!  I like sex that you might disapprove of!  Look at me!"  Idiots.

After a generation or two, it'll be so normalized that nobody will care.  Just look at how rare civil rights groups and women's suffrage groups are in parades today.


DING!

I imagine the haters will look like McGovern in front of the school in 50 years.
 
2014-03-14 04:15:26 PM  
Love it or hate it, they didn't show their "true colors". Like most any corporation, they weighed the pros and cons and took the side they felt would least hurt business.
 
2014-03-14 04:15:37 PM  

zzzzt: Why do some gays feel the need to be in a parade?  I can understand if gays weren't allowed to walk with the firefighter's float or the classic cars, but for gays to walk in a group to announce that they are gay makes as much sense as a group of straight people in a parade with banners about some sexual position/act.  "Hey, look at me!  I like sex that you might disapprove of!  Look at me!"  Idiots.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-14 04:16:05 PM  

factoryconnection: tearing them a new asshole


Niiice!
 
2014-03-14 04:17:31 PM  
I love that the Boston Herald is used for this topic.  I needed to be reminded that you can drive (or possibly walk) from Harvard or MIT to many of the Herald commenters' homes within an hour.
/though some of them are clearly paid shills who have never been North o' the Mason/Dixon
 
2014-03-14 04:18:13 PM  
Santorum Lager

/ it's a bit nutty
 
2014-03-14 04:18:55 PM  
Sam Adams, Boston Logger is my gay pron name.
 
2014-03-14 04:19:14 PM  
No other group would allow this type of portrayal.


That's why the Irish are cool, unlike so many other groups
 
2014-03-14 04:19:31 PM  

zzzzt: Why do some gays feel the need to be in a parade?  I can understand if gays weren't allowed to walk with the firefighter's float or the classic cars, but for gays to walk in a group to announce that they are gay makes as much sense as a group of straight people in a parade with banners about some sexual position/act.  "Hey, look at me!  I like sex that you might disapprove of!  Look at me!"  Idiots.


Maybe because we don't have the same rights as straights and need to make ourselves know.  Only then can change happen.  Idiot.
 
2014-03-14 04:19:34 PM  

Sybarite: In many ways Ireland seems to be years ahead of many in the Irish-American community with regard to LGBT rights. Ireland is holding a national referendum to allow same-sex marriage in their constitution next year (they already have civil unions), and it appears to have broad public support. Poll: 73% of public back allowing same-sex marriage in Constitution


Nobody here seems to give a flying shiat. Most of the people I've met find it bizarre that anyone would care who is gay or trans or whatever. Also, there are a lot more gay people who aren't in the closet, but aren't walking stereotypes - just people, who are gay. It's nice.
 
2014-03-14 04:19:55 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Maybe I should rephrase: St Patty's Day, being a traditional Catholic feast celebrating a Catholic saint (the notion of sainthood being largely within the Catholic sphere anyway), why would non-Catholics be involved (or want to be involved) anyway?


Is that a serious question?  Maybe like many celebrations that had some root in a certain religion or culture - the celebration went mainstream at some point and all sorts of now groups celebrate it.    See Christmas.

And again - this isn't being organized by a Catholic organization or church.  Its veterans organization who has organized it for veterans.  I hear there are at least 1 or 2 veterans who aren't Catholic (I was shocked to hear that too).
 
2014-03-14 04:20:36 PM  

R.A.Danny: Sam Adams beer is fine. It's no Old Style, but it will get you where you're going.


Yeah. It's almost as good as Olde English. Almost.
 
2014-03-14 04:21:57 PM  

gingerjet: That Guy Jeff: I honestly have no idea what the details of the start of all this hubub is. The impression I got was someone said "lets put a gay pride float in a St Patrick's Day parade!" and the organizers said "Uh, no, it's a St Patrick's Day parade, not a gay pride parade." Of course, I'm entirely making up the conversation based on impressions from headlines. Maybe it's something insidious like "We are going to let all these different groups have a float, but gays can go fark themselves". I don't know. Either way, it seems to be good PR for Boston Beer, so good for them.

A veterans group that represents gay men and women wanted to march.  After much drama, finger pointing, and fake outrage - the veterans group that organizes the parade said no.  Its hard to get the real story of what happened but since St. Patricks day parades have been notoriously anti-gay in the past - I'm just going to blame the organizers.


Good summary.  I'd add that organizers are saying "But they're not really a veterans group ... They only have, like, one real veteran!"  Sounds like they tried to get the gay vets to promise they'd only go with regulation uniforms, colors, flags etc... Organizers are afraid they'll get a "We're here, we're queer" rainbow clown-car.  Which only makes the gay group dig in deeper, because what they're hearing is "Well, ok, but only if you act straight."
 
2014-03-14 04:22:13 PM  

doubled99: Love it or hate it, they didn't show their "true colors". Like most any corporation, they weighed the pros and cons and took the side they felt would least hurt business.


Indeed.  Companies (which are only unitary entities by virtue of some legal fiction) don't have beliefs or values.  By their very nature, they can't -- unless you really believe that corporations are people, too.
 
2014-03-14 04:24:33 PM  
Please, anti-gay people, please for God's sake just let the gays be. Treat them equally now and forever. I am so farking sick of reading about queers in the news. Every homo that has a hang nail is a national headline now. Just farking stop with the anti-gay shiat.
 
2014-03-14 04:25:45 PM  

deadsanta: That Guy Jeff: gingerjet: That Guy Jeff: I honestly have no idea what the details of the start of all this hubub is. The impression I got was someone said "lets put a gay pride float in a St Patrick's Day parade!" and the organizers said "Uh, no, it's a St Patrick's Day parade, not a gay pride parade." Of course, I'm entirely making up the conversation based on impressions from headlines. Maybe it's something insidious like "We are going to let all these different groups have a float, but gays can go fark themselves". I don't know. Either way, it seems to be good PR for Boston Beer, so good for them.

A veterans group that represents gay men and women wanted to march.  After much drama, finger pointing, and fake outrage - the veterans group that organizes the parade said no.  Its hard to get the real story of what happened but since St. Patricks day parades have been notoriously anti-gay in the past - I'm just going to blame the organizers.

Do they generally let just any group march? If they do, then shame on them for excluding gays. That's a dick move and they are totally in the wrong. If they don't, props to them for keeping the parade theme consistent. Like, I wouldn't expect to see a gay float in the Main Street Electrical parade either, no matter how gay-friendly Disney is. I don't know if I should be outraged or not.


Like I said before, they have schools, local unions, bands, and businesses marching and riding floats, and unless there's an all-veteran high school out there I think we can safely assume that the common denominator is "Irishness" not "Veteran" for the parade.


Hmm. I don't recall seeing a reply to me that said anything of the sort. But either way, if they do let just about anyone in, then yeah, stupid bastards for not letting the gays have a float.
 
2014-03-14 04:27:17 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: R.A.Danny: Sam Adams beer is fine. It's no Old Style, but it will get you where you're going.

Yeah. It's almost as good as Olde English. Almost.


If only Sam Adams came in a 40...
 
2014-03-14 04:28:44 PM  
Disclaimer: DRTFT.

Now i sort of wish i liked beer.
 
das
2014-03-14 04:29:33 PM  
McGovern????
 
2014-03-14 04:30:03 PM  

AngryDragon: I was drinking Sam Adams before it was cool


You must be a Brit.
 
2014-03-14 04:32:02 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Please, anti-gay people, please for God's sake just let the gays be. Treat them equally now and forever. I am so farking sick of reading about queers in the news. Every homo that has a hang nail is a national headline now. Just farking stop with the anti-gay shiat.


sounds like you are the real victim in all of this.
 
2014-03-14 04:32:17 PM  

gingerjet: Dr Dreidel: Maybe I should rephrase: St Patty's Day, being a traditional Catholic feast celebrating a Catholic saint (the notion of sainthood being largely within the Catholic sphere anyway), why would non-Catholics be involved (or want to be involved) anyway?

Is that a serious question?  Maybe like many celebrations that had some root in a certain religion or culture - the celebration went mainstream at some point and all sorts of now groups celebrate it.    See Christmas.

And again - this isn't being organized by a Catholic organization or church.  Its veterans organization who has organized it for veterans.  I hear there are at least 1 or 2 veterans who aren't Catholic (I was shocked to hear that too).


Right.

So now that we've established that this is an egalitarian celebration - in addition to it being a matter of civic pride (my joke notwithstanding) - you should be able to see why groups of many stripes (not a pun) might want to join in the festivities.

Hope that helps.
 
2014-03-14 04:32:23 PM  

jshine: Santorum Lager

/ it's a bit nutty


Has a good head, kinda foamy.
It's a brown ale.
A frothy, brown ail.
 
2014-03-14 04:32:36 PM  
I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I will never buy Sam Adams again.
 
2014-03-14 04:34:42 PM  
and much like the old silly joke "let 'em get married so they can see how horrible marriage really is"
...let 'em go out in Boston on St. Patty's Day so they can get punched by an Italian dude trying to somehow prove with his fists how much more Irish he is than everyone.
 
2014-03-14 04:36:26 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.

Because there is such a thing as a gay Irish person?


Yes. "Gay" in Eire is someone that prefers women to whiskey.
 
2014-03-14 04:36:57 PM  
Tolerance is good business. I still won't patronize Chick-A-Fila. They give "Christians" a bad name.
 
2014-03-14 04:37:34 PM  

R.A.Danny: zzzzt: Why do some gays feel the need to be in a parade?

Why do some non gays feel the need to exclude any group from a parade?


NOTE: I'm not defending but explaining how the bigots justify this particular objection to gay participation.

When gay pride became a phenomenon in the wake of the AIDS epidemic in the 1980s, leading members of the gay community encouraged and followed a rather aggressive, in-your-face approach towards what  was massive indifference to the plight of AIDS sufferers.  They didn't have any other option - protesting quietly would have meant death with no attention being paid to the problem.  Entering parades and displaying "gay pride" created uncomfortable situations for the parade organizers.  Here's a bunch of people that are dragging (yes, pun intended) in all kinds of problems that they aren't prepared to address.

First and foremost, AIDS and it's impacts, the fact there wasn't a good response to the situation by the government at any level.
Second, society norms about sexuality
Third, implied support for what was considered at the time "fringe" or "bizarre" standards of behavior.

Walking in a parade in assless leather chaps, wearing a collar and a cap with a shamrock over your penis wouldn't be considered "acceptable" attire but that's exactly what the parade organizers ended up being confronted with.  (Well, unless it's a gay pride parade in SF - go nuts man... make the shamrock out of fishnet and some wire, don't leave us guessing).  It just doesn't fit the decorum of most organizations sponsoring parades.

Gays are now considered significantly more mainstream, and these kinds of "displays" aren't the normal anymore.  Doesn't stop the generally conservative parade organizers from falling for the click bait served up by the truely bigoted.  The past "messaging" from the gay community doesn't excuse the exclusion.  So there you have it.  The reason they want to "exclude" gays is because they don't want whatever event, person or nationality the parade is to commemorate to have to "deal with" the rampant sexual repression that runs through the culture of the United States and become a platform for challenging that norm.
 
2014-03-14 04:37:38 PM  

Headso: zzzzt: Why do some gays feel the need to be in a parade?

why do straight people feel the need to be in a parade? If anything a parade is kinda gay...


A parade, by popular definition, is quite the gay affair. Homosexuals, be they soldier or civilian, shouldn't be excluded. Unless they're jerks, because you can always choose to exclude jerks.
 
2014-03-14 04:37:52 PM  

grimnir: Nobody here seems to give a flying shiat. Most of the people I've met find it bizarre that anyone would care who is gay or trans or whatever. Also, there are a lot more gay people who aren't in the closet, but aren't walking stereotypes - just people, who are gay. It's nice.


That's the problem with homosexuality still being taboo.  The sort of people who do come out tend to either be the sort of people who don't care about societal norms or are actively trying to go against them.  So you end up with a lot of openly gay people who are non-conformist/non-traditional in many other ways.

Reminds me of a story that came out the other day regarding kids with hyperactivity or autism disorders who have gender identity disorders.  Because they're not as aware of accepted social norms, or because less care or less impulse control, the reported rate of GID in kids with ADHD or ASD is several times higher than that of the general population.

Which makes you wonder how many people would come out as being gay or transgender if today's social norms were different.
 
2014-03-14 04:41:37 PM  

MadHatter500: NOTE: I'm not defending but explaining how the bigots justify this particular objection to gay participation.


Oh, I understand. I had a very dear uncle who was among the first 5,000 in the US to die from HIV related illness. He was one of the best men I ever met.
 
2014-03-14 04:42:06 PM  

zzzzt: I can understand if gays weren't allowed to walk with the firefighter's float


Psssst, I'll let you in on a secret, there are gay firefighters - men and women.

So, STFU.
 
2014-03-14 04:43:21 PM  
Approves:
www.guitarlessons.com
 
2014-03-14 04:44:41 PM  

Dr Dreidel: gingerjet: Dr Dreidel: What do non-Catholics have to do with St Patty's Day?

The Catholics aren't organizing the parade.  Its a veterans organization.  So I go back to my original question.

/catholic irish ginger here.  not a veteran.

Maybe I should rephrase: St Patty's Day, being a traditional Catholic feast celebrating a Catholic saint (the notion of sainthood being largely within the Catholic sphere anyway), why would non-Catholics be involved (or want to be involved) anyway?

// if it's a civic (from the Latin civis, meaning "civilian") event, it stays open to everyone
// actually, if it's a civic event, shouldn't it be closed to the military? :P


St. Patrick's Day in America is as Irish or Catholic as Cinco de Mayo in America is Mexican. It's primarily an excuse for white people to drink slightly more than usual.
 
2014-03-14 04:45:03 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Space Station Wagon: Aar1012: haemaker: Oh man, all the other brewers should pull out.  The first fully dry St. Patrick's Day parade!

That's the thing that I've wondered about. Why are they concerened about THE GHEYS marching when they should be more concerned about the drunken stereotype attached to this day?

So much this^

No other group would allow this type of portrayal.

Probably.
[pilot-petes.com image 600x574]


Most Mexicans don't celebrate the Battle of Puebla.

It's mostly an American tradition of celebrating the drinking of tequila and eating of nachos whole wearing straw sombreros they got from Chevy's during the office going away party when Bill "the temp" gotta better paying job with benefits but still not fully utilizing his philosophy degree from that New England Liberal arts college where he wanted to get away from his parents even though they wanted him to go to state school and study business.

Most Mexicans will still accept the complimentary shot, though, while clearing the table.
 
2014-03-14 04:46:36 PM  

Bloody William: St. Patrick's Day in America is as Irish or Catholic as Cinco de Mayo in America is Mexican. It's primarily an excuse for white people to drink slightly more than usual.


We're all on board with this.
 
2014-03-14 04:47:27 PM  
I mean, good for them, but I really don't think not having that swill is a huge loss...

/except Octoberfest, that isn't awful
 
2014-03-14 04:51:57 PM  

zzzzt: Why do some gays feel the need to be in a parade?  I can understand if gays weren't allowed to walk with the firefighter's float or the classic cars, but for gays to walk in a group to announce that they are gay makes as much sense as a group of straight people in a parade with banners about some sexual position/act.  "Hey, look at me!  I like sex that you might disapprove of!  Look at me!"  Idiots.


Why does anyone feel the need to march in a parade?  Why should Scottish people be allowed to march? "Hey, look at me, I like wearing plaid skirts and playing a musical instrument that sounds like Satan's farts."

The same can be said of any group or organization.  Instead of asking "Why do they feel the need to be in a parade?"  Maybe you should ask yourself why you (not YOU neccessarily, but whomever) feel the need to tell them they can't.
 
2014-03-14 04:54:57 PM  
Has anyone ever had good green beer?  When I drank, the green beer was something like Miller Light.  It always made me queasy.
 
2014-03-14 04:55:50 PM  
Because if there's anything I like more in a business than making a mediocre product like Sam Adams, it's ramming its politics down my throat. But not in a gay way.
 
2014-03-14 04:56:11 PM  

AcademGreen: Has anyone ever had good green beer?  When I drank, the green beer was something like Miller Light.  It always made me queasy.


Yeah, we avoid that crap like the plague.
 
2014-03-14 04:57:11 PM  
What's wrong with letting the gay groups march? Chicago's been letting them march in the St. Patrick's Day Parade since 1994...
 
2014-03-14 04:57:55 PM  

Paris1127: What's wrong with letting the gay groups march? Chicago's been letting them march in the St. Patrick's Day Parade since 1994...


Da bode uv em.
 
2014-03-14 04:58:41 PM  

Vodka Zombie: As much as I hate their beer, good on Sam Adams.


THIS
 
2014-03-14 04:59:56 PM  
These are gay veterans.. right?... if so, they should march with their prospective branch in the expected uniform.. end of story.

Are they looking to have their own separate gay veterans group?... if so, that nothing more than attention whoring.

If you want to be treated normally and accepted.. then participate just like everyone else.
 
2014-03-14 05:00:26 PM  
Isn't it time we paid reparations to gays for being oppressed?
 
2014-03-14 05:02:54 PM  

Prophet of Loss: Tolerance is good business. I still won't patronize Chick-A-Fila. They give "Christians" a bad name.


He says without a hint of irony.

Welcome to "tolerance."
 
2014-03-14 05:03:34 PM  

gingerjet: Dr Dreidel: Maybe I should rephrase: St Patty's Day, being a traditional Catholic feast celebrating a Catholic saint (the notion of sainthood being largely within the Catholic sphere anyway), why would non-Catholics be involved (or want to be involved) anyway?

Is that a serious question?  Maybe like many celebrations that had some root in a certain religion or culture - the celebration went mainstream at some point and all sorts of now groups celebrate it.    See Christmas.

And again - this isn't being organized by a Catholic organization or church.  Its veterans organization who has organized it for veterans.  I hear there are at least 1 or 2 veterans who aren't Catholic (I was shocked to hear that too).



This keeps getting repeated and its still wrong: It might be a veteran's group that organizes the parade (in fact there are two that do it), however they give permits to floats for high schools, unions, civic organizations (like Masons, rotary clubs, etc) and whomever they please... just not any gay organization, be they Irish-Catholic or no. So it was OK to give a float to a catholic high school who had no veterans and who was going to boycott if any gays were permitted to march in the parade, but not to a gay-Irish-Catholic group who wasn't going to boycott if a bunch of townie bigots were allowed to march.

Who got farked? The gays, naturally.

Anyway, w/e its a bullshiat parade for a bunch of drunken louts, Sam Adams is actually better off not being associated with it, IMO, keep working at being a Boston, MA, beer nationally and internationally and not an Irish Catholic beer.
 
2014-03-14 05:03:42 PM  

firemanbuck: zzzzt: I can understand if gays weren't allowed to walk with the firefighter's float

Psssst, I'll let you in on a secret, there are gay firefighters - men and women.

So, STFU.


I call bullshiat.  I remember a Policeman, a Cowboy, an Indian, a Construction Worker, a Soldier, and a Biker, but no firefighter.

\YMCA!
 
2014-03-14 05:03:54 PM  
Good for them.

Still think their beer sucks.
 
2014-03-14 05:03:57 PM  

Paris1127: What's wrong with letting the gay groups march? Chicago's been letting them march in the St. Patrick's Day Parade since 1994...


the cubs?
 
2014-03-14 05:04:18 PM  

factoryconnection: A decision for which I look forward to our resident experts tearing them a new asshole for reasons.


Why a new asshole?  What's wrong with the old one?  All worn out and sloppy?
 
2014-03-14 05:05:49 PM  

Headso: Paris1127: What's wrong with letting the gay groups march? Chicago's been letting them march in the St. Patrick's Day Parade since 1994...

the cubs?


Zing!
 
2014-03-14 05:07:05 PM  

CheekyMonkey: firemanbuck: zzzzt: I can understand if gays weren't allowed to walk with the firefighter's float

Psssst, I'll let you in on a secret, there are gay firefighters - men and women.

So, STFU.

I call bullshiat.  I remember a Policeman, a Cowboy, an Indian, a Construction Worker, a Soldier, and a Biker, but no firefighter.

\YMCA!


It was their worst oversight as a People....
 
2014-03-14 05:07:45 PM  

deadsanta: Headso: Paris1127: What's wrong with letting the gay groups march? Chicago's been letting them march in the St. Patrick's Day Parade since 1994...

the cubs?

Zing!


Da Bears?
 
2014-03-14 05:09:09 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Good for them.  Every entity that stands up and says "This is bullshiat" when people try to discriminate - against anyone - is one more voice to be head.


What she said.
 
2014-03-14 05:10:55 PM  

CheekyMonkey: firemanbuck: zzzzt: I can understand if gays weren't allowed to walk with the firefighter's float

Psssst, I'll let you in on a secret, there are gay firefighters - men and women.

So, STFU.

I call bullshiat.  I remember a Policeman, a Cowboy, an Indian, a Construction Worker, a Soldier, and a Biker, but no firefighter.

\YMCA!


They didn't need another first-responder like a firefighter. They already had THE HOTTEST COP ON THE DISCO SCENE.
 
2014-03-14 05:24:46 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.

Because there is such a thing as a gay Irish person?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Norton
 
gja
2014-03-14 05:26:45 PM  

somedude210: haemaker: Oh man, all the other brewers should pull out.  The first fully dry St. Patrick's Day parade!

If all the local brewers pull out, I wonder if they'd have to serve Bud and Coors at the breakfast

/the horror
//worst than going dry


Oh you effing HEATHEN! COORS?!?! BUD?!?!
Would rather drink sewer oil.......at least there IS a flavor.
 
2014-03-14 05:28:45 PM  
So I dont get it.

The parade sponsor, backed by a Supreme Court ruling, has said that gays and lesbians have always been allowed to participate and that any form of political activism is banned to maintain the spirit of the parade. MassEquality rejected the condition that its group not march as openly gay veterans.

Whats the problem?
 
2014-03-14 05:31:20 PM  
I'm a hardcore beer snob and I love the Boston Beer Company. They don't make the best beers in the world, but they're consistent. I like them more for their ethos though. They preach the gospel of elevating expectations of beer. Also, those 10 bearded hipsters in all their commercials are the actual guys working at their brewery in JP and they exude a love for what they do.

I'm pretty sure Boston Lager was my gateway to the world of craft beers.

\should get my 500th distinct checkin on Untappd this weekend
 
2014-03-14 05:32:28 PM  

Ambivalence: Why does anyone feel the need to march in a parade?


Or mince, as the case may be.
 
2014-03-14 05:34:40 PM  

deadsanta: gingerjet: That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.

What do veterans have to do with Saint Patricks Day?


Exactly. Plus the parade features floats and groups from unions, high schools, churches and local businesses, they let all those non-vet groups march to celebrate their Irishness, just not the gay-Irish.


Agree - veterans fought for freedom, high schools educate, businesses provide jobs, and homosexuals like to have penises in their mouths.

Same, same.
 
2014-03-14 05:35:49 PM  

R.A.Danny: I imagine the haters will look like McGovern in front of the school in 50 years.


wat?
 
2014-03-14 05:37:43 PM  

Mr_Fabulous: R.A.Danny: I imagine the haters will look like McGovern in front of the school in 50 years.

wat?


Totally meant Wallace. Jesus I need to go home.
 
2014-03-14 05:41:00 PM  

All2morrowsparTs: Ow! That was my feelings!: Space Station Wagon: Aar1012: haemaker: Oh man, all the other brewers should pull out.  The first fully dry St. Patrick's Day parade!

That's the thing that I've wondered about. Why are they concerened about THE GHEYS marching when they should be more concerned about the drunken stereotype attached to this day?

So much this^

No other group would allow this type of portrayal.

Probably.
[pilot-petes.com image 600x574]

Most Mexicans don't celebrate the Battle of Puebla.

It's mostly an American tradition of celebrating the drinking of tequila and eating of nachos whole wearing straw sombreros they got from Chevy's during the office going away party when Bill "the temp" gotta better paying job with benefits but still not fully utilizing his philosophy degree from that New England Liberal arts college where he wanted to get away from his parents even though they wanted him to go to state school and study business.

Most Mexicans will still accept the complimentary shot, though, while clearing the table.


You must not live in California, Mexican Americans love Cinco De Mayo, it's like their July 4th.
 
2014-03-14 05:42:22 PM  

That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.


What do veterans have to do with St. Patrick's Day?
 
2014-03-14 05:42:34 PM  
Gay veterans marching in a Saint Paddy's Day parade for the first time in the history of gay or veterans or Saint Paddy's Day or parades. Hey, go have a beer on me, you farking homos.

/please read that in the voice of Colin Sullivan
 
2014-03-14 05:43:52 PM  
Harpoon is better than Sam Adams. It kinda sounds like Sam Adams was just pressured by local taverns to back out of it.
 
2014-03-14 05:45:14 PM  

I alone am best: So I dont get it.

The parade sponsor, backed by a Supreme Court ruling, has said that gays and lesbians have always been allowed to participate and that any form of political activism is banned to maintain the spirit of the parade. MassEquality rejected the condition that its group not march as openly gay veterans.

Whats the problem?


Don't wait here for an answer
 
2014-03-14 05:51:55 PM  

I alone am best: So I dont get it.

The parade sponsor, backed by a Supreme Court ruling, has said that gays and lesbians have always been allowed to participate and that any form of political activism is banned to maintain the spirit of the parade. MassEquality rejected the condition that its group not march as openly gay veterans.

Whats the problem?


By that logic then the Disabled American Veterans should be forbidden from marching as well.
 
2014-03-14 05:54:20 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.

Because there is such a thing as a gay Irish person?




So they couldn't just march as an Irish person. Is their some reason to in effect add a hyphen? What next a special category for the Irish with peanut allergies or those who are asexual? What if the various subdivisions of the gay "community " demand separate recognition for themselves trannies , lesbos, bi etc. both veteran non-veteran sub categories.


This demanding inclusion but what to be separate does not make sense. Would not being Irish or Irish veteran be enough?

Not Irish so no real dog in this hunt except never understanding the big deal over being Irish. One of the most conquered groups of people in history.
 
2014-03-14 05:58:09 PM  

SlothB77: the comments in TFA offend me for many reasons, not the least being the awful tastes people have in beer.


Reading a post of yours that I agree with is an odd feeling.
 
2014-03-14 05:58:43 PM  

doublesecretprobation: I alone am best: So I dont get it.

The parade sponsor, backed by a Supreme Court ruling, has said that gays and lesbians have always been allowed to participate and that any form of political activism is banned to maintain the spirit of the parade. MassEquality rejected the condition that its group not march as openly gay veterans.

Whats the problem?

By that logic then the Disabled American Veterans should be forbidden from marching as well.


First person I ever farkied as "F'ing idiot".

Congrats.
 
2014-03-14 05:59:14 PM  

hasty ambush: cameroncrazy1984: That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.

Because there is such a thing as a gay Irish person?

So they couldn't just march as an Irish person. Is their some reason to in effect add a hyphen? What next a special category for the Irish with peanut allergies or those who are asexual? What if the various subdivisions of the gay "community " demand separate recognition for themselves trannies , lesbos, bi etc. both veteran non-veteran sub categories.


This demanding inclusion but what to be separate does not make sense. Would not being Irish or Irish veteran be enough?

Not Irish so no real dog in this hunt except never understanding the big deal over being Irish. One of the most conquered groups of people in history.


Why do the Irish veterans need to march as veterans? Why not just Irish? And why do the Irish Catholic high schools need to march as Irish Catholic high schools? Why not just Irish?
 
2014-03-14 06:09:47 PM  

deadsanta: That Guy Jeff: gingerjet: That Guy Jeff: I honestly have no idea what the details of the start of all this hubub is. The impression I got was someone said "lets put a gay pride float in a St Patrick's Day parade!" and the organizers said "Uh, no, it's a St Patrick's Day parade, not a gay pride parade." Of course, I'm entirely making up the conversation based on impressions from headlines. Maybe it's something insidious like "We are going to let all these different groups have a float, but gays can go fark themselves". I don't know. Either way, it seems to be good PR for Boston Beer, so good for them.

A veterans group that represents gay men and women wanted to march.  After much drama, finger pointing, and fake outrage - the veterans group that organizes the parade said no.  Its hard to get the real story of what happened but since St. Patricks day parades have been notoriously anti-gay in the past - I'm just going to blame the organizers.

Do they generally let just any group march? If they do, then shame on them for excluding gays. That's a dick move and they are totally in the wrong. If they don't, props to them for keeping the parade theme consistent. Like, I wouldn't expect to see a gay float in the Main Street Electrical parade either, no matter how gay-friendly Disney is. I don't know if I should be outraged or not.


Like I said before, they have schools, local unions, bands, and businesses marching and riding floats, and unless there's an all-veteran high school out there I think we can safely assume that the common denominator is "Irishness" not "Veteran" for the parade.


never heard of MLK day parades?  There's one just outside my apartment every year, running down Colfax, all the way to downtown Denver.  Black Arch Diocese runs half of it.

/I like it because the police do a sweep the week before and again 4 days before, and once more 2 days before to get the dealers off the parade route
 
2014-03-14 06:17:05 PM  

TheJoe03: All2morrowsparTs: Ow! That was my feelings!: Space Station Wagon: Aar1012: haemaker: Oh man, all the other brewers should pull out.  The first fully dry St. Patrick's Day parade!

That's the thing that I've wondered about. Why are they concerened about THE GHEYS marching when they should be more concerned about the drunken stereotype attached to this day?

So much this^

No other group would allow this type of portrayal.

Probably.
[pilot-petes.com image 600x574]

Most Mexicans don't celebrate the Battle of Puebla.

It's mostly an American tradition of celebrating the drinking of tequila and eating of nachos whole wearing straw sombreros they got from Chevy's during the office going away party when Bill "the temp" gotta better paying job with benefits but still not fully utilizing his philosophy degree from that New England Liberal arts college where he wanted to get away from his parents even though they wanted him to go to state school and study business.

Most Mexicans will still accept the complimentary shot, though, while clearing the table.

You must not live in California, Mexican Americans love Cinco De Mayo, it's like their July 4th.


I live in San Francisco, so maybe they are all from Puebla where you are from. The Mexicans that celebrate here are all named Thad and live in the Marina.
 
2014-03-14 06:26:24 PM  

All2morrowsparTs: TheJoe03: All2morrowsparTs: Ow! That was my feelings!: Space Station Wagon: Aar1012: haemaker: Oh man, all the other brewers should pull out.  The first fully dry St. Patrick's Day parade!

That's the thing that I've wondered about. Why are they concerened about THE GHEYS marching when they should be more concerned about the drunken stereotype attached to this day?

So much this^

No other group would allow this type of portrayal.

Probably.
[pilot-petes.com image 600x574]

Most Mexicans don't celebrate the Battle of Puebla.

It's mostly an American tradition of celebrating the drinking of tequila and eating of nachos whole wearing straw sombreros they got from Chevy's during the office going away party when Bill "the temp" gotta better paying job with benefits but still not fully utilizing his philosophy degree from that New England Liberal arts college where he wanted to get away from his parents even though they wanted him to go to state school and study business.

Most Mexicans will still accept the complimentary shot, though, while clearing the table.

You must not live in California, Mexican Americans love Cinco De Mayo, it's like their July 4th.

I live in San Francisco, so maybe they are all from Puebla where you are from. The Mexicans that celebrate here are all named Thad and live in the Marina.


I live in San Jose, which unlike SF, actually has a sizable Mexican population.
 
2014-03-14 06:28:15 PM  

Agent Nick Fury: doublesecretprobation: I alone am best: So I dont get it.

The parade sponsor, backed by a Supreme Court ruling, has said that gays and lesbians have always been allowed to participate and that any form of political activism is banned to maintain the spirit of the parade. MassEquality rejected the condition that its group not march as openly gay veterans.

Whats the problem?

By that logic then the Disabled American Veterans should be forbidden from marching as well.

First person I ever farkied as "F'ing idiot".

Congrats.


Normally I'd just ignore you, but what exactly is so idiotic about my statement?
 
2014-03-14 06:35:48 PM  

Agent Nick Fury: deadsanta: gingerjet: That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.

What do veterans have to do with Saint Patricks Day?


Exactly. Plus the parade features floats and groups from unions, high schools, churches and local businesses, they let all those non-vet groups march to celebrate their Irishness, just not the gay-Irish.

Agree - veterans fought for freedom, high schools educate, businesses provide jobs, and homosexuals like to have penises in their mouths.

Same, same.



O my Gawd, you're totally right!  My son's sexuality is :

"Have cute crush on girl at six, start getting boners at 12, start thinking about what he'd like to do with them and with which girl, take a girl to homecoming that he hopes he gets to do those things with, but also likes to do other things with, grow older and date a girl with whom he wonders what his kids would look like, get his heart broken with that girl, date another girl and do marriage math (will she stay pretty, she seems to make good decisions that'll help us have a good life, will she ever cheat on me, is she funny, does she mind that I watch a lot of ____, my friends are getting married why not me cuz this girl is COOL!), get married, be awestruck and grateful when they hand me this baby we made, be proud of making it for ten years, hopefully til death do us part."

My friend's gay son's sexuality is:

"Have penis in mouth."

And that's the only agenda these people could possibly have!  Nothing else!  Not the right to join the army and fight for our freedom without being paranoid about personal life.  Not ability to go to school without fear.  Not fear of losing my job because the boss would and can toss a great employee because I can't control my urge to somehow gobble a knob.  Thanks for clearing up the difference between a real human life and the comic book character you've assigned to somebody else's.
 
2014-03-14 06:41:07 PM  

TheJoe03: I live in San Jose, which unlike SF, actually has a sizable Mexican population.


Sorry to hear that, not about the Mexicans, San Jose. I keed I keed.
 
2014-03-14 06:48:28 PM  

All2morrowsparTs: TheJoe03: I live in San Jose, which unlike SF, actually has a sizable Mexican population.

Sorry to hear that, not about the Mexicans, San Jose. I keed I keed.


Let's just say I choose to live here over SF, as crazy as that sounds to y'all. You got a great city for tourism though, better than Santa Cruz and that population of unwelcoming assholes.
 
2014-03-14 07:03:42 PM  
How the hell would anyone know whether a marching military guy was gay or straight?  Oh wait...

"Look at us, we're you gay militaraaay!  We can march with an AK-47 up our arses and don't even ask us about our fartses".

Never mind.
 
2014-03-14 07:07:33 PM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Harpoon is better than Sam Adams. It kinda sounds like Sam Adams was just pressured by local taverns to back out of it.


I can't imagine a local tavern, even a few local taverns, would have that much influence on their bottom line.

This was a genuine 'fark you' to the organizers
 
2014-03-14 07:15:27 PM  
The comments in the article are derptastic, but that's pretty much what I expect on any article that covers anything about gays.  I'm fine with this.  They're losing the battle, and they are kicking and screaming the whole way down.  I'm not above enjoying the schadenfreud.
 
2014-03-14 07:15:46 PM  

Lando Lincoln: That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.

What do veterans have to do with St. Patrick's Day?


What do Americans have to do with St Patrick?
 
2014-03-14 07:16:39 PM  
what is the beer equivalent to santorum?
 
2014-03-14 07:16:42 PM  

Agent Nick Fury: deadsanta: gingerjet: That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.

What do veterans have to do with Saint Patricks Day?


Exactly. Plus the parade features floats and groups from unions, high schools, churches and local businesses, they let all those non-vet groups march to celebrate their Irishness, just not the gay-Irish.

Agree - veterans fought for freedom, high schools educate, businesses provide jobs, and homosexuals like to have penises in their mouths.

Same, same.


Veterans and gays are an intersecting set of people.

There's fundamentally no difference to the organizers excluding a black veterans organization.

Who cares what criteria is used by the attending organization to identify as long as its legal and not directly polar opposite in ethos to that over the organizers. Which it isnt.
 
2014-03-14 07:16:59 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Because there is such a thing as a gay Irish person?


God loves the Irish!
Unless, of course, you're gay
That was their pronouncement as the pipes begin to play
You can be a con, a Mafia Don, we'll laugh it all away
But you can't be Irish if you're gay!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjZscwQG2EI
 
2014-03-14 07:19:31 PM  
I realized that I didn't say what I really meant here.  Let me rephrase something:

I can understand if gays weren't allowed to walk with the firefighter's float
should have been
I can understand being angry if gays weren't allowed to walk with the firefighter's float.

My argument is simply that putting yourself in front of a crowd to loudly voice your sexual preference is in terribly poor taste.
 
2014-03-14 07:19:45 PM  
Man, you can sure tell when the douchebags get off work and internet-up.
 
2014-03-14 07:20:13 PM  

I alone am best: So I dont get it.

The parade sponsor, backed by a Supreme Court ruling, has said that gays and lesbians have always been allowed to participate and that any form of political activism is banned to maintain the spirit of the parade. MassEquality rejected the condition that its group not march as openly gay veterans.

Whats the problem?


The assumption that being gay is a political statement and not an expression of their identity.

They are not campaigning to make you gay.
 
2014-03-14 07:25:43 PM  
Do they let Protestants march in the St. Patrick's Day parade?  If so, then they've lost all excuse to exclude anyone.
 
2014-03-14 07:27:20 PM  
Fwiw...the song Danny Boy seems terribly gay to me. Lines like..
"For you will bend and tell me that you love me,"

// NTTATWWT
 
2014-03-14 07:32:40 PM  
I would hope that protestants would recognize that having a float promoting Protestantism in a Catholic(ish) parade is in poor taste, and so wouldn't do so.  A Protestant on the firefighter's float on the other hand is adding to the event instead of trying to push an agenda.
 
2014-03-14 07:42:29 PM  

VladTheEmailer: I alone am best: So I dont get it.

The parade sponsor, backed by a Supreme Court ruling, has said that gays and lesbians have always been allowed to participate and that any form of political activism is banned to maintain the spirit of the parade. MassEquality rejected the condition that its group not march as openly gay veterans.

Whats the problem?

The assumption that being gay is a political statement and not an expression of their identity.

They are not campaigning to make you gay.


But they would be trying to make a political statement about gay rights. That is part of why SCOTUS sided with the Parade (9-0 btw) in allowing them exclude the gays.
 
2014-03-14 07:50:22 PM  

Norfolking Chance: Lando Lincoln: That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.

What do veterans have to do with St. Patrick's Day?

What do Americans have to do with St Patrick?


I think if you went to Ireland they would ask what do the Irish have to do with St. Patrick's day.
 
2014-03-14 07:50:50 PM  
And now the rightards add "Sam Adams Beer" to the list of people they hate.

At this rate, what products will be left for them to buy besides Chik Fil A and Rush Limbaugh's bottled tea?
 
2014-03-14 07:52:51 PM  

TV's Vinnie: And now the rightards add "Sam Adams Beer" to the list of people they hate.

At this rate, what products will be left for them to buy besides Chik Fil A and Rush Limbaugh's bottled tea?


ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2014-03-14 08:00:18 PM  

VladTheEmailer: TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Harpoon is better than Sam Adams. It kinda sounds like Sam Adams was just pressured by local taverns to back out of it.

I can't imagine a local tavern, even a few local taverns, would have that much influence on their bottom line.

This was a genuine 'fark you' to the organizers


Either way, I don't get how people don't see the parallels between gay rights and other civil rights movements.
 
2014-03-14 08:08:36 PM  
IIRC in a previous year they used the claim that it was a parade to celebrate being "Irish" which - for some reason - precluded being gay.

Then a gay Irish group (as in FROM IRELAND) asked to march...

... they were turned down too.

Remember - the guy who is in charge of the parade is named "Wacko" Hurley.
 
2014-03-14 08:18:08 PM  
So, drunk Sullies in the Pride Parade will be welcomed?
 
2014-03-14 08:21:34 PM  

gingerjet: Dr Dreidel: What do non-Catholics have to do with St Patty's Day?

The Catholics aren't organizing the parade.  Its a veterans organization.  So I go back to my original question.

/catholic irish ginger here.  not a veteran.


What do public parades in the US have to do with St Patrick?
 
2014-03-14 08:32:28 PM  

lockers: [img.fark.net image 718x550]


Came for this. Cracks me up.

/currently knocking back a Sam Adams Rebel IPA
// not gay
/// NTTAWWT
 
2014-03-14 08:45:49 PM  

flondrix: cameroncrazy1984: Because there is such a thing as a gay Irish person?

God loves the Irish!
Unless, of course, you're gay
That was their pronouncement as the pipes begin to play
You can be a con, a Mafia Don, we'll laugh it all away
But you can't be Irish if you're gay!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjZscwQG2EI


Came here to post that song.  Glad to see it's covered.  Also glad I checked before posting.
 
2014-03-14 08:50:01 PM  

Mr. Ekshun: Vodka Zombie: As much as I hate their beer, good on Sam Adams.

Eww, you put that in your mouth? You know, if you try it once that makes you a Sam Adams drinker.


You can build a thousand bridges, but if you drink ONE Same Adamas, they don't call you a bridge-builder.
 
gja
2014-03-14 09:02:18 PM  

ciberido: Mr. Ekshun: Vodka Zombie: As much as I hate their beer, good on Sam Adams.

Eww, you put that in your mouth? You know, if you try it once that makes you a Sam Adams drinker.

You can build a thousand bridges, but if you drink ONE Same Adamas, they don't call you a bridge-builder.


Oh screw you putzs. Sam's is a nice brew. Especially summer brews.
Oh and this.
mo.worldclassbeer.com
 
2014-03-14 09:09:08 PM  
free market!
 
2014-03-14 09:12:05 PM  

gja: ciberido: Mr. Ekshun: Vodka Zombie: As much as I hate their beer, good on Sam Adams.

Eww, you put that in your mouth? You know, if you try it once that makes you a Sam Adams drinker.

You can build a thousand bridges, but if you drink ONE Same Adamas, they don't call you a bridge-builder.

Oh screw you putzs. Sam's is a nice brew. Especially summer brews.
Oh and this.
[mo.worldclassbeer.com image 220x350]


Christ you're old.

/had to google to make sure they haven't released it recently.
//It was too syrupy for my taste.
 
gja
2014-03-14 09:34:40 PM  

impaler: gja: ciberido: Mr. Ekshun: Vodka Zombie: As much as I hate their beer, good on Sam Adams.

Eww, you put that in your mouth? You know, if you try it once that makes you a Sam Adams drinker.

You can build a thousand bridges, but if you drink ONE Same Adamas, they don't call you a bridge-builder.

Oh screw you putzs. Sam's is a nice brew. Especially summer brews.
Oh and this.
[mo.worldclassbeer.com image 220x350]

Christ you're old.

/had to google to make sure they haven't released it recently.
//It was too syrupy for my taste.


Shut up. Off my lawn. Get lost or I'll hit you with my walker. How about I throw my dentures at you?

Also, you're wrong. Still made, still great on a warm summer night.
 
2014-03-14 09:47:17 PM  

zzzzt: Why do some gays feel the need to be in a parade?  I can understand if gays weren't allowed to walk with the firefighter's float or the classic cars, but for gays to walk in a group to announce that they are gay makes as much sense as a group of straight people in a parade with banners about some sexual position/act.  "Hey, look at me!  I like sex that you might disapprove of!  Look at me!"  Idiots.


There's some idiocy here, sure, but not where you think it is.

You could apply the same logic to any group: "Hey, look at me!  I'm a Catholic!  I pray on my knees!  Whooo!  Look at me!"

So we should tell the Catholics they shouldn't draw attention to themselves and should just mix themselves in with everybody else?
 
2014-03-14 09:49:15 PM  

xanadian: Gays and beer.

This thread is relevant to my interests....


How about gay beer?  Is that relevant to your interests?
 
2014-03-14 10:02:16 PM  

gja: Also, you're wrong. Still made, still great on a warm summer night.


It says "Not currently brewed"

Link
 
2014-03-14 10:17:52 PM  

Mr. Ekshun: Vodka Zombie: As much as I hate their beer, good on Sam Adams.

Eww, you put that in your mouth? You know, if you try it once that makes you a Sam Adams drinker.


All this Sam Adams hate is lame. At least they're using their significant distribution capabilities to introduce people to other beers, with a brewery people "know".

Everytime I go to the store they have some new flavor, good on them. Couple of their IPAs that came in that case were quite good. Some of the people who try their new flavors will then try microbrews, and then we all win.
 
2014-03-14 10:33:14 PM  

Tanukis_Parachute: what is the beer equivalent to santorum?


This
reachhispanic.com
when shaken vigorously for no good reason
 
gja
2014-03-14 10:35:45 PM  

impaler: gja: Also, you're wrong. Still made, still great on a warm summer night.

It says "Not currently brewed"

Link


Oh, you meant the TB. Yes, sadly. But I like bock beers so Spaten bock. Tasty.

I meant the summer brews by SA. They are still done each year. And I likey.
 
2014-03-14 10:39:44 PM  
More than the homophobia, it just bothers me that somebody wants to be controlling about who marches in a St. Patrick's day parade. It's a goddamn parade of drunks celebrating a made-up American holiday that's about getting shiatfaced. They should let whoever the hell wants to march in the stupid parade march in the stupid parade.
 
2014-03-14 11:04:00 PM  

svanmeter: I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I will never buy Sam Adams again.


encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2014-03-14 11:25:45 PM  

Agent Nick Fury: doublesecretprobation: I alone am best: So I dont get it.

The parade sponsor, backed by a Supreme Court ruling, has said that gays and lesbians have always been allowed to participate and that any form of political activism is banned to maintain the spirit of the parade. MassEquality rejected the condition that its group not march as openly gay veterans.

Whats the problem?

By that logic then the Disabled American Veterans should be forbidden from marching as well.

First person I ever farkied as "F'ing idiot".

Congrats.


Why?  Were you trying to post on Fark and look in a mirror at the same time?
 
2014-03-14 11:39:52 PM  

doublesecretprobation: Agent Nick Fury: doublesecretprobation: I alone am best: So I dont get it.

The parade sponsor, backed by a Supreme Court ruling, has said that gays and lesbians have always been allowed to participate and that any form of political activism is banned to maintain the spirit of the parade. MassEquality rejected the condition that its group not march as openly gay veterans.

Whats the problem?

By that logic then the Disabled American Veterans should be forbidden from marching as well.

First person I ever farkied as "F'ing idiot".

Congrats.

Normally I'd just ignore you, but what exactly is so idiotic about my statement?



Your first instinct was probably correct.  I've been watching Agent Nick Fury for a while, over several threads, and I've seen him post a lot of crap worthy of plonking.

He's intellectually weak; his best posts are straw-man arguments (2 different threads), tu quoque projection, and generally stupid nonsense.  In terms of his personality or posting style, he is defensive, belligerent, dumb, harshly judgmental of others, and prone to insulting anyone he disagrees with, as you've witnessed.

Each of these adjectives describe specific behaviors I encountered in different threads (I assure you I'm not just tossing synonyms at you, they were separate offenses), and in all that time, I have never once noticed him saying ANYTHING that wasn't stupid, hateful, or hostile --- when not all three.

He is, in short, a complete waste of oxygen --- as far as I can tell.  Maybe underneath all that is a rational, decent human being, but so far, I have seen no evidence to support that hope.
 
2014-03-15 01:18:37 AM  
It doesnt really make good business sense to eliminate from your market any potential customers.

/it would take religionomics
 
2014-03-15 01:36:17 AM  
I've never tried Sam Adams. I think I'll pick up a 12-pack this weekend...
 
2014-03-15 03:05:03 AM  

ksdanj: I've never tried Sam Adams. I think I'll pick up a 12-pack this weekend...


They have a very wide selection of beers. It's pretty hard not to find at least one you like.
 
2014-03-15 03:17:58 AM  
Best Marketing Strategy Ever.
 
2014-03-15 06:22:10 AM  

Dr Dreidel: gingerjet: That Guy Jeff: I'm still not sure what gays have to do with Saint Patricks Day, but good for Boston Beeer for taking advantage of a good PR move.

What do veterans have to do with Saint Patricks Day?

What do non-Catholics have to do with St Patty's Day? I say, if y' nawt a papist, you can fahk off home.

// and anyone who pronounces terminal 'r's gets the sideyes


Paddy's, not Patty's. It's short for Padraig, the Irish form of the name Patrick.

/pet peeve, as you were.
 
2014-03-15 12:45:07 PM  

fluffy2097: ksdanj: I've never tried Sam Adams. I think I'll pick up a 12-pack this weekend...

They have a very wide selection of beers. It's pretty hard not to find at least one you like.


I really wish the farkers would start making Scotch Ale again... I loved the hell out of that stuff! For a while after it became unavailable on its own, you could pick it up in a mix pack with some other brews, but now I don't think you can even get it that way...

/Noble Pils is pretty good, too...
 
2014-03-15 01:29:54 PM  
This is the last straw.  I will continue to not drink their beer, but NOW, I'M GONNA DO IT LOUDER!!!!!11ELEVENTY
 
2014-03-15 06:35:40 PM  
Good work Sam Adams, get some free Marketing/Publicity by choosing the "populist" position on the the controversy du jour (gheys)  AND you're saving the $ponsorship fees all at the same time.  You guys have shown me that you can have your cake and eat it too.

/Impressed
 
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