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(Science 2.0)   Hank Campbell clarifies his stance on Venus' "Greenhouse Effect" saying, "You might as well call the greenhouse effect 'Smurf' and be done with it." OK then   (science20.com) divider line 23
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2014-03-14 02:34:39 PM
5 votes:
echo '127.0.0.1 www.science20.com' >> /etc/hosts
/etc/init.d/networking restart

memecrunch.com
2014-03-14 02:54:44 PM
4 votes:

sprawl15: If you watch the original program now you have to wonder what ever happened to that nuclear winter, too.


I... don't understand his complaint about nuclear winter?

Nuclear winter was always "If we have a big farking nuclear war, it's going to cause a shiat-ton of stuff to burn and a bunch of particulate matter to be thrown into the atmosphere, akin to massive, massive volcanic errptions. Which we have SEEN can cause harsher winters and lower the temperature of the earth."

"OH YEAH WELL THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN!"
"But.. we.. didn't HAVE a big nuclear war."

"YOU'RE WRONG, NUCLEAR WINTER DIDN'T HAPPEN."

".. What exactly is your argument here?"
2014-03-14 06:29:06 PM
3 votes:
Venus clearly doesn't have a GREENHOUSE effect, because there are no plants on Venus!

King me.
2014-03-14 03:51:01 PM
3 votes:

THE GREAT NAME: HighZoolander: THE GREAT NAME: Climate change alarmists accuse skeptics of being anti-science for much the same reasons corrupt pharmaceutical companies do. Except being on the left, the climatists say "it's OK when we do it, because we're the good guys". Actually believing this circular argument is pretty much the definition of left wing politics.


Actually believing what you just typed is the definition of hurr durr derp.


Nice in-depth rebuttal there. Ah, but you think you're one of the good guys, so reason and logic are strictly optional, right?


I'm confident that I gave it the appropriate amount of depth.
2014-03-14 03:14:16 PM
3 votes:

THE GREAT NAME: Climate change alarmists accuse skeptics of being anti-science for much the same reasons corrupt pharmaceutical companies do. Except being on the left, the climatists say "it's OK when we do it, because we're the good guys". Actually believing this circular argument is pretty much the definition of left wing politics.


Sup, Hank?
2014-03-14 02:55:19 PM
3 votes:

kronicfeld: This guy is a whiny c*nt. I must have missed the first article, but of his complaints, the only one that really has any traction is "3. There Is No Sound In Space."


I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the scenes showing Neil de Grasse Tyson in a space ship zooming around space and billions of years into the past do not accurately depict real events, even if you turn the sound off.
2014-03-14 04:35:58 PM
2 votes:
I've never heard of this guy before, but his original article is like a generous dollop of derp, wraped in herp, and then stuffed in a potato--a retard turducken, if you will.

Also, people who complain about stuff in movies not being able to make sound in space need to learn the difference between diagetic and non-diagetic sound.
2014-03-14 02:58:01 PM
2 votes:
Here's a quick rundown of the Federalist article:

1. Herp da derp ba burp doo durpyity-doo
2. Herpity Derpity Dop, Berpity Ferpity Fop
3. Derpa-derpa dooo
4. Hurk-de-jurk! Jerkaloo! Derp.
5. Herpity derpity derpity doo
2014-03-14 06:11:12 PM
1 votes:

THE GREAT NAME: Climate change alarmists accuse skeptics of being anti-science for much the same reasons corrupt pharmaceutical companies do. Except being on the left, the climatists say "it's OK when we do it, because we're the good guys". Actually believing this circular argument is pretty much the definition of left wing politics.


Did you just accuse someone of using circular arguments with a circular argument spinning around a strawman?
2014-03-14 05:35:48 PM
1 votes:
You know, I think the real take away from all of this is, that if just the series opener has gotten the conservative panties already in this much of a twist, we really should be in for some epic levels of hate and vitriol as the show progresses.  And I don't know if there is enough popcorn in the world.
2014-03-14 04:33:54 PM
1 votes:
So TFA got called out on the whole Vnus thing, and this was his answer:

If you want to believe that a lack of gravity, proximity to the sun and solar radiation are the 'greenhouse effect' then anything is the greenhouse effect. You might as well call the greenhouse effect 'Smurf' and be done with it.

Funny how Mercury has a WEAKER gravitational pull than Venus AND is closer to the sun, yet THOSE are this guy's root "causes" of Venus' heat, not the atmosphere... Anyone signed up for his message boards? I don't want to get even my throwaway gmail address on this guy's radar, but someone should point this out.
2014-03-14 04:29:55 PM
1 votes:

Mikey1969: lockers: Mikey1969: Is there a link to the blasphemous "space ship making sound in space" thing that this guy has his panties in a bunch over? I didn't watch the show, and I'm curious what has him so weepy.

It's on hulu.

And 30 seconds in, it's already got an error... It says "wandering bands of hunters and gatherers found their way to the stars". Well, we aren't hunter/gatherers anymore, so obviously he failed.


Did I do that right?


Not only that, no human has ever set foot on a star, so the claim is utter bullshiat.
2014-03-14 04:21:30 PM
1 votes:

Mikey1969: Did I do that right?


Look like we got a natural here, boys! You're Science 2.0 material, son!
2014-03-14 04:20:28 PM
1 votes:

lockers: Mikey1969: Is there a link to the blasphemous "space ship making sound in space" thing that this guy has his panties in a bunch over? I didn't watch the show, and I'm curious what has him so weepy.

It's on hulu.


And 30 seconds in, it's already got an error... It says "wandering bands of hunters and gatherers found their way to the stars". Well, we aren't hunter/gatherers anymore, so obviously he failed.


Did I do that right?
2014-03-14 04:20:26 PM
1 votes:

sprawl15: look libs how can it be GREENHOUSE gasses when venus is clearly a whitish color


Again, check and mate, libtards!
2014-03-14 04:11:49 PM
1 votes:
look libs how can it be GREENHOUSE gasses when venus is clearly a whitish color
2014-03-14 02:58:43 PM
1 votes:

jaytkay: kronicfeld: This guy is a whiny c*nt. I must have missed the first article, but of his complaints, the only one that really has any traction is "3. There Is No Sound In Space."

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the scenes showing Neil de Grasse Tyson in a space ship zooming around space and billions of years into the past do not accurately depict real events, even if you turn the sound off.


If they couldn't accurately represent space/time travel, obviously that throws everything else into question.

Another question is why NDT wasn't immediately vaporized by the Big Bang that happened like 2 feet in front of him.
2014-03-14 02:48:21 PM
1 votes:

sprawl15: If you watch the original program now you have to wonder what ever happened to that nuclear winter, too.


[chortles loudly with his hand on his belly]

Check and mate, libtards!
2014-03-14 02:45:36 PM
1 votes:

theorellior: Since I'm not clicking that link to feed the attention whore, would someone who already made that mistake like to clarify what his original stance on the venerian greenhouse effect was? I didn't think it was a controversy that 90 bar of CO2 and SO3 was the reason for Venus being hot enough to melt lead.


As sprawl15 pointed out, his argument is "Venus is hot because reasons".
2014-03-14 02:39:21 PM
1 votes:
What the smurf is this shiat?
2014-03-14 02:33:15 PM
1 votes:

theorellior: Since I'm not clicking that link to feed the attention whore, would someone who already made that mistake like to clarify what his original stance on the venerian greenhouse effect was? I didn't think it was a controversy that 90 bar of CO2 and SO3 was the reason for Venus being hot enough to melt lead.


lay down a tarp because your mind is about to get blown
Tyson assures us right away that we are to "question everything" so we have to ask why he thinks Venus is the way it is due to the greenhouse effect - which is another way of saying global warming. Venus is almost 900 degrees Fahrenheit and the clouds are sulfuric acid. Even the most aggressive climate change models and their 20-foot ocean rises don't predict that for Earth, no matter how many Chevy Volts we don't buy.

[...]

Regardless, CO2 did not cause the poisonous conditions on Venus; instead, CO2 is an effect of the poisonous conditions on Venus. Invoking the greenhouse effect when talking about Venus is like blaming ocean liners for inventing barnacles.

If you watch the original program now you have to wonder what ever happened to that nuclear winter, too.
2014-03-14 02:32:02 PM
1 votes:
How has no one mentioned the pic in TFA of Neil as PowerMan?

i.imgur.com
2014-03-14 02:04:35 PM
1 votes:
That doesn't explain Serena, though
 
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