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(Huffington Post)   Putin: "Russians reserve the right to protect themselves from the people they're currently stabbing to death"   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 21
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2014-03-14 12:24:05 PM
Putin is a cop choking the life out of Ukraine while yelling "stop resisting" for the witnesses to hear.
 
2014-03-14 12:25:22 PM
"I am simply demanding that the oppression of three and a half million Germans in Czechoslovakia cease and that the inalienable right to self-determination take its place."

- Adolf Hitler's speech at the NSDAP Congress 1938
 
2014-03-14 12:25:37 PM
"I'm going to protect everyone from you, while you vote for our protection!"

That doesn't sound like politically motivated at all. Mob racket much?
 
2014-03-14 12:33:45 PM
Grabs mic

"Kosovo biatches"

Drops mic.

Putin out.
 
2014-03-14 12:42:58 PM

ontariolightning: Grabs mic

"Kosovo biatches"

Drops mic.

Putin out.


He may be thinking this but there's a big difference here; the Serbians were actually killing Kosovars. They began attacking people living in that region which they saw as ethnic enemies, they carried out atrocities against them, Kosovar militias rose up in response, and by the time NATO intervened it was a battle between two established and separate polities each fielding its own organized military. What Russia is doing is claiming that riots which they have instigated, by playing upon inter-communal rivalries which they have long cultivated through support for pro-Russian, right-wing paramilitary groups and political parties, give them the right to invade a neighboring country which they have, since Putin took office, insisted "should" belong to Russia.

So the Kosovo-Serbia, Ukraine-Crimea/Eastern Ukraine parallels are superficial, at best.
 
2014-03-14 12:43:16 PM
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2014-03-14 12:52:00 PM

macadamnut: [images2.dailykos.com image 550x454]


Influences, or controls?
Not quite, Mr. Wuerker, but nice try.
 
2014-03-14 12:53:53 PM

Heron: ontariolightning: Grabs mic

"Kosovo biatches"

Drops mic.

Putin out.

He may be thinking this but there's a big difference here; the Serbians were actually killing Kosovars. They began attacking people living in that region which they saw as ethnic enemies, they carried out atrocities against them, Kosovar militias rose up in response, and by the time NATO intervened it was a battle between two established and separate polities each fielding its own organized military. What Russia is doing is claiming that riots which they have instigated, by playing upon inter-communal rivalries which they have long cultivated through support for pro-Russian, right-wing paramilitary groups and political parties, give them the right to invade a neighboring country which they have, since Putin took office, insisted "should" belong to Russia.

So the Kosovo-Serbia, Ukraine-Crimea/Eastern Ukraine parallels are superficial, at best.



You're going to blame Russia for all of this?
What about the Americans sending McCain & Graham to Kiev to rallies in support of the anti Russian protestors? What about NATO right away forming a new government without any dialogue of the people? What about NATO trying to box Russia in? If my enemy is NATO I sure as hell will not allow a NATO state to border my country or allow it to station missiles with them directed at me. When USSR tried that with Cuba it was almost WW3. And USA is still punishing Cuba for it. Are you telling me Russia cannot punish Ukraine for trying the same thing? You know as well as I do that if NATO gets a foothold in Ukraine they'll station thousands of troops on the Russian border and there will probably be nukes.
So yeah you can screw off with the whole anti Russian shiat.
This whole thing started because NATO was going to box Russia in.
 
2014-03-14 12:56:35 PM

ontariolightning: Heron: ontariolightning: Grabs mic

"Kosovo biatches"

Drops mic.

Putin out.

He may be thinking this but there's a big difference here; the Serbians were actually killing Kosovars. They began attacking people living in that region which they saw as ethnic enemies, they carried out atrocities against them, Kosovar militias rose up in response, and by the time NATO intervened it was a battle between two established and separate polities each fielding its own organized military. What Russia is doing is claiming that riots which they have instigated, by playing upon inter-communal rivalries which they have long cultivated through support for pro-Russian, right-wing paramilitary groups and political parties, give them the right to invade a neighboring country which they have, since Putin took office, insisted "should" belong to Russia.

So the Kosovo-Serbia, Ukraine-Crimea/Eastern Ukraine parallels are superficial, at best.


You're going to blame Russia for all of this?
What about the Americans sending McCain & Graham to Kiev to rallies in support of the anti Russian protestors? What about NATO right away forming a new government without any dialogue of the people? What about NATO trying to box Russia in? If my enemy is NATO I sure as hell will not allow a NATO state to border my country or allow it to station missiles with them directed at me. When USSR tried that with Cuba it was almost WW3. And USA is still punishing Cuba for it. Are you telling me Russia cannot punish Ukraine for trying the same thing? You know as well as I do that if NATO gets a foothold in Ukraine they'll station thousands of troops on the Russian border and there will probably be nukes.
So yeah you can screw off with the whole anti Russian shiat.
This whole thing started because NATO was going to box Russia in.


Wow, I think I'm dumber for having read that. Terrible
 
2014-03-14 12:59:36 PM
Isn't that how it usually works?  The idea that you need overwhelming force for protection?

The cops that come in and shoot your dog are there to protect you.

And we are there to protect the people overseas that we are killing by remote.  Etc.  Etc.
 
2014-03-14 01:06:17 PM

macadamnut: [images2.dailykos.com image 550x454]


The classic "two wrongs DO make a right" argument.
 
2014-03-14 01:25:13 PM

Heron: ontariolightning: Grabs mic

"Kosovo biatches"

Drops mic.

Putin out.

He may be thinking this but there's a big difference here; the Serbians were actually killing Kosovars. They began attacking people living in that region which they saw as ethnic enemies, they carried out atrocities against them, Kosovar militias rose up in response, and by the time NATO intervened it was a battle between two established and separate polities each fielding its own organized military. What Russia is doing is claiming that riots which they have instigated, by playing upon inter-communal rivalries which they have long cultivated through support for pro-Russian, right-wing paramilitary groups and political parties, give them the right to invade a neighboring country which they have, since Putin took office, insisted "should" belong to Russia.

So the Kosovo-Serbia, Ukraine-Crimea/Eastern Ukraine parallels are superficial, at best.


http://rt.com/news/minority-language-law-ukraine-035/

That's not the same as killing Russians of course.

I'm also pretty sure there has been riots for atleast 3 months in Ukraine, and they were definetly not instigated by Russia.
 
2014-03-14 01:26:21 PM

ontariolightning: Heron: ontariolightning: Grabs mic

"Kosovo biatches"

Drops mic.

Putin out.

He may be thinking this but there's a big difference here; the Serbians were actually killing Kosovars. They began attacking people living in that region which they saw as ethnic enemies, they carried out atrocities against them, Kosovar militias rose up in response, and by the time NATO intervened it was a battle between two established and separate polities each fielding its own organized military. What Russia is doing is claiming that riots which they have instigated, by playing upon inter-communal rivalries which they have long cultivated through support for pro-Russian, right-wing paramilitary groups and political parties, give them the right to invade a neighboring country which they have, since Putin took office, insisted "should" belong to Russia.

So the Kosovo-Serbia, Ukraine-Crimea/Eastern Ukraine parallels are superficial, at best.


You're going to blame Russia for all of this?
What about the Americans sending McCain & Graham to Kiev to rallies in support of the anti Russian protestors? What about NATO right away forming a new government without any dialogue of the people? What about NATO trying to box Russia in? If my enemy is NATO I sure as hell will not allow a NATO state to border my country or allow it to station missiles with them directed at me. When USSR tried that with Cuba it was almost WW3. And USA is still punishing Cuba for it. Are you telling me Russia cannot punish Ukraine for trying the same thing? You know as well as I do that if NATO gets a foothold in Ukraine they'll station thousands of troops on the Russian border and there will probably be nukes.
So yeah you can screw off with the whole anti Russian shiat.
This whole thing started because NATO was going to box Russia in.


You know nothing about US Political parties if you think the American Government sent those two self interest assholes over there to represent the Obama Administration and the American People
 
2014-03-14 01:31:26 PM
The Russian forces might have to stand their ground; really, they don't have a choice in the matter, and I believe the Ukrainians might be weilding concrete sidewalks with the bottoms of their feet.
 
2014-03-14 02:23:22 PM
Stand your gr-

mofa: The Russian forces might have to stand their ground


DAMMIT!
 
2014-03-14 02:37:18 PM

Shostie: Stand your gr-

mofa: The Russian forces might have to stand their ground

DAMMIT!


If only there were some kind of provision that could be changed in Ukraine's governing articles that would allow them to encourage resistance to an aggressor.  An amendment if you will...
 
2014-03-14 04:26:14 PM

AngryDragon: "I am simply demanding that the oppression of three and a half million Germans in Czechoslovakia cease and that the inalienable right to self-determination take its place."

- Adolf Hitler's speech at the NSDAP Congress 1938


Bears repeating. Similar pretext, similar actions - now, let's see if we get a similar outcome.
 
2014-03-14 06:14:17 PM

ontariolightning: You're going to blame Russia for all of this?


Link
 
2014-03-14 06:31:08 PM

danzak: ontariolightning: Heron: ontariolightning: Grabs mic

"Kosovo biatches"

Drops mic.

Putin out.

He may be thinking this but there's a big difference here; the Serbians were actually killing Kosovars. They began attacking people living in that region which they saw as ethnic enemies, they carried out atrocities against them, Kosovar militias rose up in response, and by the time NATO intervened it was a battle between two established and separate polities each fielding its own organized military. What Russia is doing is claiming that riots which they have instigated, by playing upon inter-communal rivalries which they have long cultivated through support for pro-Russian, right-wing paramilitary groups and political parties, give them the right to invade a neighboring country which they have, since Putin took office, insisted "should" belong to Russia.

So the Kosovo-Serbia, Ukraine-Crimea/Eastern Ukraine parallels are superficial, at best.


You're going to blame Russia for all of this?
What about the Americans sending McCain & Graham to Kiev to rallies in support of the anti Russian protestors? What about NATO right away forming a new government without any dialogue of the people? What about NATO trying to box Russia in? If my enemy is NATO I sure as hell will not allow a NATO state to border my country or allow it to station missiles with them directed at me. When USSR tried that with Cuba it was almost WW3. And USA is still punishing Cuba for it. Are you telling me Russia cannot punish Ukraine for trying the same thing? You know as well as I do that if NATO gets a foothold in Ukraine they'll station thousands of troops on the Russian border and there will probably be nukes.
So yeah you can screw off with the whole anti Russian shiat.
This whole thing started because NATO was going to box Russia in.

Wow, I think I'm dumber for having read that. Terrible


Our hat is meant to keep us warm, not think for us.
 
2014-03-14 08:05:37 PM
A Russian was stabbed in Canada today.

So long, Canucks.
 
2014-03-14 10:36:19 PM
Oh, yeah, the Zimmerman clause.
 
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