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(Rolling Stone)   World's most pretentious guitarist almost joined most pretentious band   (rollingstone.com) divider line 165
    More: Scary, Gene Simmons, Eddie Van Halen, guitarists, Ace Frehley, Guitar World, Paul Stanley, Mark St. John, Vinnie Vincent  
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2014-03-14 11:44:28 AM
I'd hardly call Eddie "pretentious". That's Ynvie Malmsteen (if he's still alive).
 
2014-03-14 11:47:25 AM
I'd hardly call Gene Simmons a bass player.  Cartoon character, maybe ...
 
2014-03-14 12:08:06 PM
I don't think I'd call anyone mentioned in that article pretentious. I mean, I've never been one for reading fan magazines or whatnot, so I may have missed it if someone said something to the contrary, but I'm not aware that there's ever been the slightest pretense that Kiss has ever been intended to be anything but a merchandising machine that mixes in some some loud, basic rock'n'roll suitable for play at high-school parties where someone with a fake ID has been able to provide some liquor. What you see is what you get.
 
2014-03-14 12:10:22 PM
richie blackmore almost joined radiohead?
 
2014-03-14 12:25:56 PM
I know Simmons was instrumental in getting van Halen a record deal, but think this story is a bit exaggerated.
 
2014-03-14 12:31:22 PM

Earguy: I know Simmons was instrumental in getting van Halen a record deal


Wow he actually did something worthwhile in his life?
 
2014-03-14 12:44:56 PM
i182.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-14 12:51:34 PM
Rush almost had a new member?
 
2014-03-14 12:53:00 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Rush almost had a new member?


Now there's pretentious.
 
2014-03-14 12:58:37 PM
Almost joined? That "Edge" asshole has been playing with U2 for years.
 
2014-03-14 01:06:58 PM
Came here for this:

assets-s3.rollingstone.com

Leaving dissatisfied.
 
2014-03-14 01:07:16 PM
Nuno Bettencourt joined the Decemberists?
 
2014-03-14 01:12:01 PM

Vacation Bible School: Nuno Bettencourt joined the Decemberists?


I took my wife to see those guys a few years back, they look like they are having a ton of fun and put on a good show.

/whatever that is worth
 
2014-03-14 01:12:18 PM
This has been known for many, many, many years.  Well, at least Gene's version of it.

I have no doubt Eddie was frustrated in 1982.  But under no circumstances would he have left his brother to become guitar player #2 in KISS makeup.
 
2014-03-14 01:16:01 PM

FlashHarry: richie blackmore almost joined radiohead?


Curses....foiled again.

/was going to say he joined Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
//or U2
 
2014-03-14 01:17:10 PM
CTRL+F "Jack White."  Nope. Not in the article.

CTRL+F "Muse." Naw.

This headline is all wrong.
 
2014-03-14 01:18:23 PM
If I was Eddie I'd have eased my pain by nailing Valerie Bertinelli rather than by joining Kiss.
 
2014-03-14 01:20:08 PM

FlashHarry: richie blackmore almost joined radiohead?


Like
 
2014-03-14 01:20:17 PM

hamdinger: CTRL+F "Jack White."  Nope. Not in the article.

CTRL+F "Muse." Naw.

This headline is all wrong.


*Check calendar*

Nope, not 2002.  Phew.
 
2014-03-14 01:21:26 PM

AltheaToldMe: Came here for this:

[assets-s3.rollingstone.com image 306x306]

Leaving dissatisfied.


Bite your tongue!!!
 
2014-03-14 01:22:54 PM

Mugato: I'd hardly call Eddie "pretentious". That's Ynvie Malmsteen (if he's still alive).


Agreed.

TFA: Stanley recently told the same publication that his decision to reinvent the Kiss by removing their makeup ended up hurting the band.

I thought it was because of the over the top 80's neon clothes they wore.
 
2014-03-14 01:23:31 PM
THIS guy was quite a pretentious little prick when touring with Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker.
Link

Good though... Didn't fit too well. You expected Clapton licks.
 
2014-03-14 01:25:47 PM
Devin Townsend almost joined Vai? Oh wait, that actually happened...

tonedeth.files.wordpress.com

/I keed, I keed
 
Bf+
2014-03-14 01:33:55 PM
Boats and Ho's!
 
2014-03-14 01:35:12 PM

hamdinger: CTRL+F "Jack White."  Nope. Not in the article.

CTRL+F "Muse." Naw.

This headline is all wrong.


Hard core troll core
 
2014-03-14 01:36:42 PM
Weird definition of pretentious you guys have. I don't think Kiss has ever pretended they are anything more than the cartoon characters everyone sees them as as.

That said, the correct answer to the guessing game is: Steve Vai joined ELP?
 
2014-03-14 01:38:12 PM
Billy Corgan almost joined Coldplay?
 
2014-03-14 01:38:30 PM

FeedTheCollapse: That said, the correct answer to the guessing game is: Steve Vai joined ELP?


Steve Vai invented his own scale sometime in the 80s or 90s ( I think with an extra string) and wouldn't STFU about it in guitar magazines so yeah.
 
2014-03-14 01:39:57 PM

Mugato: Earguy: I know Simmons was instrumental in getting van Halen a record deal

Wow he actually did something worthwhile in his life?


Gene recorded a Van Halen demo and shopped it around. He also wanted to rename them "Daddy Longlegs." Nothing worked out with Simmons so he terminated their contract, where they later found another manager (Forget his name), and the rest is history.

There are some stories about Eddie being involved with early recordings on Creatures of the Night  and around that time, Eddie was going through lots of friction with Roth over what would become Diver Down. So it's plausible that one night, the pair went out and Eddie b*tched about Roth and might've said something off-hand about joining Kiss.
 
2014-03-14 01:40:13 PM
Yngvie Malmsteen tried to join U2?
 
2014-03-14 01:41:17 PM
Crap, I could have SWORE I was original...
 
2014-03-14 01:43:32 PM

That Guy What Stole the Bacon: Crap, I could have SWORE I was original...


Well at least you spelled Yngvie right. I knew it was wrong but couldn't be arsed to look it up.
 
2014-03-14 01:45:52 PM

the_rev: Almost joined? That "Edge" asshole has been playing with U2 for years.


You win the thread.
 
2014-03-14 01:49:00 PM

Secret Agent X23: I don't think I'd call anyone mentioned in that article pretentious. I mean, I've never been one for reading fan magazines or whatnot, so I may have missed it if someone said something to the contrary, but I'm not aware that there's ever been the slightest pretense that Kiss has ever been intended to be anything but a merchandising machine that mixes in some some loud, basic rock'n'roll suitable for play at high-school parties where someone with a fake ID has been able to provide some liquor. What you see is what you get.


It make sense if you know "pretentious guitarist" translates to "anyone better than me" on Fark.

/lot of pretentious guitarists IMO
 
2014-03-14 01:51:05 PM

the_rev: Almost joined? That "Edge" asshole has been playing with U2 for years.


A winnar is you.
 
2014-03-14 01:51:43 PM

Mugato: That Guy What Stole the Bacon: Crap, I could have SWORE I was original...

Well at least you spelled Yngvie right. I knew it was wrong but couldn't be arsed to look it up.


Great, so I did that assclown a favor. I hate myself now.


/I'm an Alexi Laiho man, myself...
 
2014-03-14 01:53:55 PM

Kevin Lomax: It make sense if you know "pretentious guitarist" translates to "anyone better than me" on Fark.

/lot of pretentious guitarists IMO


Everyone plays better than me. No, it means self important, takes them self too seriously, thinks they're saving the world with their music or just all around douchebag.
 
2014-03-14 02:00:39 PM
John Mayer almost joined Kings of Leon?
 
2014-03-14 02:01:22 PM
Prince almost joined Yes?
 
2014-03-14 02:04:23 PM

FeedTheCollapse: Steve Vai joined ELP?


lulz.  agreed.
 
2014-03-14 02:06:48 PM

That Guy What Stole the Bacon: Yngvie Malmsteen tried to join U2?


You misspelled Queensryche.
 
2014-03-14 02:08:26 PM
Lou Reed almost joined Metallica?
 
2014-03-14 02:09:43 PM
Robert Fripp's not in this article at all!
 
2014-03-14 02:14:13 PM
Ritchie Kotzen almost joined the Winery Dogs?
 
2014-03-14 02:14:18 PM
It's farkin hilarious seeing old stories repeated over and over like they are some new discovery.
 
2014-03-14 02:15:44 PM
Umm... Eric Johnson joined Arcade Fire?
 
2014-03-14 02:18:03 PM

FeedTheCollapse: Weird definition of pretentious you guys have. I don't think Kiss has ever pretended they are anything more than the cartoon characters everyone sees them as as.

That said, the correct answer to the guessing game is: Steve Vai joined ELP?


On Fark, pretentious = artist I don't like.
 
2014-03-14 02:18:27 PM
Joe Bonamassa almost joined Arcade Fire?
 
2014-03-14 02:23:35 PM

amindtat: Devin Townsend almost joined Vai? Oh wait, that actually happened...

/I keed, I keed


"Least pretentious frontman joins most pretentious guitarist's band" works fine.
 
2014-03-14 02:25:35 PM
Anywho. I suspect what really happened was they drank some shots, blew some lines and went out for lunch because Gene (who from what I understand doesn't drink or do drugs) actually wanted to eat. In an alcohol and coke fueled rant, EVH sarcastically suggested he ditch VH and join KISS. Gene was at first hot on the idea because KISS was passe at the time, and having the hottest rock guitar player at the time join the band would have been a shot in the arm that KISS needed. However, when EVH started talking about having an equal share in the brand, Gene's business sense (he is a beast) kicked in and he "talked EVH out of it".

None of the above is true. Or maybe it is. Who cares?
 
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