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(Malaysia New Straits Times)   New new evidence from MIL radar tracking data suggests that flight MH370 was deliberately diverted onto airway N571 heading towards Andaman Islands. SAR efforts turning the focus on Indian Ocean   (nst.com.my ) divider line
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2014-03-14 09:12:56 AM  

Danger Mouse: John Kerry and Obama drew a red line. So were all good.


Look who can't leave his ODS on the politics page.

Point and laugh, people.  Point and laugh.
 
2014-03-14 09:13:55 AM  

b0rscht: Thank you for flying Air Heisenburg.


Thanks for making fun of a cat-astrophe.
 
2014-03-14 09:14:16 AM  
I understand that Jimmy Hoffa has been added to the passenger manifest as investigators believe they will find him first.
 
2014-03-14 09:14:30 AM  

Headso: I thought they said that the plane flew for four hours and then had to redact it? now they are saying that it did again? this story gets weirder and weirder...


Now they are saying 5.5 hours.
 
2014-03-14 09:14:43 AM  

Deep Contact: Apparently this is why the plane was diverted to Andaman Islands.


 [mag.nobleandroyal.com image 640x427]


The blonde's legs appear to make 3/4's of her body, NTTAWWT.

I wonder if she's been getting any trunk action from old Jumbo.  It could explain why she appears to be in such loving mood.
 
2014-03-14 09:15:11 AM  

zimbomba63: schief2: freetomato: Until a couple of weeks ago, I'd never heard of the Andaman Islands.  I saw this recently, and am now pretty fascinated.

That Pandit guy mentioned in the article wrote a book ('The Sentinelese'), short but fascinating. Unfortunately also a biatch to find.

<i>Other unintentional encounters include on August 2, 1981,a Hong Kong freighter navigating the choppy waters of the Bay of Bengal ran aground on a submerged coral reef. The ship, called the Primrose, was hopelessly stuck. The crew stayed on their boat for a few days, when the saw native people advancing towards their ship, armed with spears, bows and arrows .The captain made a distress call via radio and the crew were airlifted to safety by helicopter.

The last recorded contact with the Sentinelese was in 2006, when the Sentinelese archers killed two fishermen who were fishing illegally within range of the island. The archers later drove off, with a hail of arrows, the helicopter that was sent to retrieve the bodies.</i>

Hard. Core.

Well, the next helicopter they send, should be a military one, with a 20mm Vulcan gun.  That would be perfect to give the old Sentinelese archers a taste of the 21st century.  Then, we'll see how "hard core" the survivors are.


When stone age people and Sentinelese archers  meet..
 
2014-03-14 09:15:58 AM  
I think there was a last minute scheduling change and they cancelled the flight, and they're just trying to avoid giving the passengers a refund.

All the passengers are still in line at the ticket counter trying to get rebooked or reimbursed, waiting for the one cranky and inefficient representative to come back from her smoke break.
 
2014-03-14 09:18:30 AM  

HooskerDoo: zimbomba63: How come you never see travel brochures for North Sentinel Island? Sounds just like the type of place for people, who think taking hiking trips on the Iran-Iraq border is a good idea.

Off topic but those two morons were on NPR this morning. No one asked the obvious question of "Why in the farking fark were you idiots hiking in an foreign country where there are hostile people who would like to see you dead"?


I missed that.  I listen to NPR and they can be a little too polite, for my tastes, sometimes.
 
2014-03-14 09:19:43 AM  
The facts are just baffling. I don't know what to make of this.

If the plane was diverted, you'd have to wonder to what end?

If it was for ransom, there's no demand.  If it was to resell the plane, you'd have to kill 200 people to do it.  Even the shadiest black marketer would pause over that.  If it was for pilot suicide, why bother turning off the transponders? If it was destroyed in a terrorist attack, there have been no claims of responsibility.

That leaves way-out there theories like it's been diverted for eventual use in a terrorist attack.  Even then though, why would no one from the plane make a cell phone call?  It was obvious they weren't on their regular route, but none of the crew or passengers called or texted someone to say "Hey, don't come to the airport to pick me up?"  Did someone collect all the phones?  That would imply an organized group that so far hasn't been indicated by the passenger manifest.  Even if a group depressurized the cabin in mid-flight, the oxygen masks should have dropped down.  It wouldn't have necessarily incapacitated all the passengers at once.

Or it could be some botched version of any of the above.  I suppose that includes an explosion or crash over open water in a way that did not create a visible debris field -- but I'm having trouble envisioning how that would happen.  I mean, it's taken years to find some wrecks in the water, but there was usually some immediate notion of where they were.
 
2014-03-14 09:21:38 AM  

HenryFnord: Tune in tomorrow when this theory will be disavowed.  Seriously, do you sheeple get it yet?  This is all just a big conspiracy by MSM to increase page views tourism! WAKE UP


FTFY
 
2014-03-14 09:22:36 AM  

freetomato: Until a couple of weeks ago, I'd never heard of the Andaman Islands.  I saw this recently, and am now pretty fascinated.


t/y for the link - short and interesting

also made me wonder what would happen if a jet airliner full of people, luggage and phones dropped in....not to say that is my theory - but how very rich for imagination
 
2014-03-14 09:23:31 AM  
Adaman reporter:

"No plane here!"

/mobile link to news video, because i'm on my phone
 
2014-03-14 09:26:43 AM  

abhorrent1: Oh look, it's farks faux cause of the week.
Remember last week when everyone pretended to care about the Ukraine for a few days?

/good times


Ukraine threads are still all over Fark. You'd know that if you were paying attention instead of mocking others for not paying attention in a futile attempt to feel a little better about being you.

/But where's the fun in that?
 
2014-03-14 09:26:55 AM  
Didn't you all get the memo? Those 20 people who work for that semiconductor company and know all about RFID chips used in aeroplanes set up a cloaking device and hijacked it to China.
 
2014-03-14 09:27:54 AM  

cgraves67: veedeevadeevoodee: Is Dirk Pitt enroute?

You can bet a similar incident is going to feature prominently in one of Clive's novels within a year.


I have read a handful of the DP novels, starting with Raise the Titanic!  It would be impossible to have read all of them, but since he handed over the reins to someone else I don't have the interest in continuing.

On a side note it surprises me that this situation is possible in this day and age.  Granted this is Malaysia and not the US, UK, Germany, Russia, etc. but in an age when it seems like everything is monitored all the time I'm shocked a 777 can just disappear.
 
2014-03-14 09:28:09 AM  
I suppose it's possible they flew to the Andamans, but I can't conceive of how you'd conceal a landing.  There's only one airport, and while the runway is about three times longer than you need to safely set down a 777-200, a road runs across the middle so the locals would surely see it.  Details here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vir_Savarkar_Airport
 
2014-03-14 09:30:44 AM  

James Rieper: The facts are just baffling. I don't know what to make of this.

If the plane was diverted, you'd have to wonder to what end?

If it was for ransom, there's no demand.  If it was to resell the plane, you'd have to kill 200 people to do it.  Even the shadiest black marketer would pause over that.  If it was for pilot suicide, why bother turning off the transponders? If it was destroyed in a terrorist attack, there have been no claims of responsibility.

That leaves way-out there theories like it's been diverted for eventual use in a terrorist attack.  Even then though, why would no one from the plane make a cell phone call?  It was obvious they weren't on their regular route, but none of the crew or passengers called or texted someone to say "Hey, don't come to the airport to pick me up?"  Did someone collect all the phones?  That would imply an organized group that so far hasn't been indicated by the passenger manifest.  Even if a group depressurized the cabin in mid-flight, the oxygen masks should have dropped down.  It wouldn't have necessarily incapacitated all the passengers at once.

Or it could be some botched version of any of the above.  I suppose that includes an explosion or crash over open water in a way that did not create a visible debris field -- but I'm having trouble envisioning how that would happen.  I mean, it's taken years to find some wrecks in the water, but there was usually some immediate notion of where they were.


Cell phones? There probably aren't many cell towers in the water to carry the signals. Satellite phones on the other hand...
 
2014-03-14 09:30:58 AM  
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/seismic-event-close-miss i ng-jet-path-china-scientists-n52516

Seizmic event in the area.  May be unrelated though, that's a pretty active area for tremors.
 
2014-03-14 09:31:55 AM  

Bslim: LtDarkstar: Link farked already?  What a crappy server, is it running off an Atari 2600 or something?

You're thinking Atari 5200.


Now you've done it. Somebody now is going to start working on a NetBSD port to the Atari 2600. Wouldn't surprise me if someone already had, frankly. Or at least stuck some micro-ATX board into a 2600 case and said "Look! It's running Linux!".
 
2014-03-14 09:32:32 AM  
If you set aside the speculation and conspiracy theories and just focus on the facts, I think it's pretty clear what happened.

12:21 - MH370 Departs

1:07 - The pilot decide to commit suicide and turns off the transponder

1:17 - The Iranians with the stolen passports force their way into the cabin to hijack the plane, the instruct the pilot to disable the radio and turn the plane around

2:21 - Chinese separatist terrorists force their way into the cockpit and overpower the Iranians and the flight crew, they instruct the pilot to descend below radar.

2:48 - Mechanical failure in both engines causes loss of power. Shards of metal fly off and damage the tail

3:12 - A bomb planted by al Quaida explodes in the baggage compartment causing rapid depressurization of the cabin.

3:48 - Aliens arrive and abduct the passengers and crew. The plane is vaporized, which is why no wreckage has been found.
 
2014-03-14 09:33:30 AM  
I'm actually supprised some terrorist group that had nothing to do with it has not claimed responsibility just to get some attention.
 
2014-03-14 09:35:34 AM  

Ring of Fire: I'm actually supprised some terrorist group that had nothing to do with it has not claimed responsibility just to get some attention.


They have.  A Chinese group did (can't remember their name).  But nobody took them seriously.
 
2014-03-14 09:39:57 AM  

zimbomba63: schief2: freetomato: Until a couple of weeks ago, I'd never heard of the Andaman Islands.  I saw this recently, and am now pretty fascinated.

That Pandit guy mentioned in the article wrote a book ('The Sentinelese'), short but fascinating. Unfortunately also a biatch to find.

<i>Other unintentional encounters include on August 2, 1981,a Hong Kong freighter navigating the choppy waters of the Bay of Bengal ran aground on a submerged coral reef. The ship, called the Primrose, was hopelessly stuck. The crew stayed on their boat for a few days, when the saw native people advancing towards their ship, armed with spears, bows and arrows .The captain made a distress call via radio and the crew were airlifted to safety by helicopter.

The last recorded contact with the Sentinelese was in 2006, when the Sentinelese archers killed two fishermen who were fishing illegally within range of the island. The archers later drove off, with a hail of arrows, the helicopter that was sent to retrieve the bodies.</i>

Hard. Core.

Well, the next helicopter they send, should be a military one, with a 20mm Vulcan gun.  That would be perfect to give the old Sentinelese archers a taste of the 21st century.  Then, we'll see how "hard core" the survivors are.


I sometimes have encounters with people whose simple acts of human kindness restore my faith in the human species.  Woven into the multiple "missing jet" FARK threads is a recurring concern for the fate of the passengers/crew and their families.

Here is hoping this post is the most ugly thing I read, and that you proffer, today.

I'd ask "who peed in your cornflakes" but "you were reincarnated from the anthrax-laden blanket-giving American settlers, weren't you?" seems more fitting.
 
2014-03-14 09:42:11 AM  

Warthog: Ring of Fire: I'm actually supprised some terrorist group that had nothing to do with it has not claimed responsibility just to get some attention.

They have.  A Chinese group did (can't remember their name).  But nobody took them seriously.


I had not herd that, thanks. I figured there would be all kinds of groups comming out of the woodwork claiming responsibility.
As for where the plane is they seem to basically have it narrowed down to earth (probably).
 
2014-03-14 09:44:31 AM  
If only a Kennedy had been on this flight the entire military would have been mobilized to find it.  Plus the added benefit of one less Kennedy.
 
2014-03-14 09:45:21 AM  
What the what? Why did I never notice the existence of the Andaman Islands before? Those things are HUGE.
 
2014-03-14 09:45:45 AM  

parasol: I sometimes have encounters with people whose simple acts of human kindness restore my faith in the human species. Woven into the multiple "missing jet" FARK threads is a recurring concern for the fate of the passengers/crew and their families.

Here is hoping this post is the most ugly thing I read, and that you proffer, today.

I'd ask "who peed in your cornflakes" but "you were reincarnated from the anthrax-laden blanket-giving American settlers, weren't you?" seems more fitting.


I was tempted to post a Red Forman "dumbass" .jpg but decided that much like a petulant child trying to get attention, he deserved to be ignored.  I'm glad someone called him on it, though.
 
2014-03-14 09:46:30 AM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-14 09:47:45 AM  

Warthog: Ring of Fire: I'm actually supprised some terrorist group that had nothing to do with it has not claimed responsibility just to get some attention.

They have.  A Chinese group did (can't remember their name).  But nobody took them seriously.


That's got to be pretty depressing for them.
 
2014-03-14 09:48:00 AM  
50,000 malaysia threads and not one thread for the poor folks in Philadelphia or am i not seeing it since only 2 people went to the hospital one of them with an injury one with an "illness" maybe i remember malaysia because they cant find their ass without a map or a plane with their own radar
 
2014-03-14 09:48:19 AM  

nekom: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/seismic-event-close-miss i ng-jet-path-china-scientists-n52516

Seizmic event in the area.  May be unrelated though, that's a pretty active area for tremors.


I thought they where searching west of the Malay Peninsula, now they're east of it...again!
 
2014-03-14 09:49:05 AM  

veedeevadeevoodee: Is Dirk Pitt enroute?


Shut your whore mouth.  The only thing those novels are good for is propping up a couch.

The man wrote himself into his novel.  He named his son after the character.  And now the character spawned children somehow.

I am angry that I "read" his work.  I felt violated afterward.
 
2014-03-14 09:50:29 AM  
I am begining to think it's a botched hijacking and eventaully the crew/passengers were able to crash the plane a-la flight 93?
 
2014-03-14 09:50:37 AM  
this is the first I've heard of the semi-conductor techs on board.

that would be a weird angle here, but in the absence of any good leads that's interesting.

I know little un is nuts but would he risk the wrath of the chinese for something like that?
I have to think that NK would be busted down hard by their neighbors if they got caught hijacking their citizens.

this is quite the mystery.
 
2014-03-14 09:52:33 AM  

mjbok: If only a Kennedy had been on this flight the entire military would have been mobilized to find it.  Plus the added benefit of one less Kennedy.


img.fark.net
 
2014-03-14 09:52:48 AM  
So, Andaman islands. I guess we can now assume that the passengers sleep with the elephants.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-14 09:52:53 AM  

ummhima2: 50,000 malaysia threads and not one thread for the poor folks in Philadelphia or am i not seeing it since only 2 people went to the hospital one of them with an injury one with an "illness" maybe i remember malaysia because they cant find their ass without a map or a plane with their own radar


There was one, if that helps ease your mind - I think the headline was "Its a Bad Week to be a Plane"
 
2014-03-14 09:53:32 AM  

ummhima2: 50,000 malaysia threads and not one thread for the poor folks in Philadelphia or am i not seeing it since only 2 people went to the hospital one of them with an injury one with an "illness" maybe i remember malaysia because they cant find their ass without a map or a plane with their own radar


Those poor folks in Philly went through what amounts to a bus accident.  And there was a thread last night.
 
2014-03-14 09:57:32 AM  

unexplained bacon: mjbok: If only a Kennedy had been on this flight the entire military would have been mobilized to find it.  Plus the added benefit of one less Kennedy.

[img.fark.net image 287x175]


Given that there's a good chance this crashed, I wouldn't be surprised if a Kennedy was the pilot.
 
2014-03-14 10:01:13 AM  
Start blanketing the world with this.  We'll find it quicker than a lost pet!

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-14 10:02:40 AM  

Danger Mouse: unexplained bacon: mjbok: If only a Kennedy had been on this flight the entire military would have been mobilized to find it.  Plus the added benefit of one less Kennedy.

[img.fark.net image 287x175]

Given that there's a good chance this crashed, I wouldn't be surprised if a Kennedy was the pilot.


At least you'd know it was in the water.
 
2014-03-14 10:03:22 AM  
Last seen headed towards Iran ?
 
2014-03-14 10:04:13 AM  
I'm telling ya, its in North Korea.
 
2014-03-14 10:04:31 AM  
I bet somebody tried to make a cell phone call from the plane.

/Let that be a lesson to the rest of you
 
2014-03-14 10:06:12 AM  

freetomato: parasol: I sometimes have encounters with people whose simple acts of human kindness restore my faith in the human species. Woven into the multiple "missing jet" FARK threads is a recurring concern for the fate of the passengers/crew and their families.

Here is hoping this post is the most ugly thing I read, and that you proffer, today.

I'd ask "who peed in your cornflakes" but "you were reincarnated from the anthrax-laden blanket-giving American settlers, weren't you?" seems more fitting.

I was tempted to post a Red Forman "dumbass" .jpg but decided that much like a petulant child trying to get attention, he deserved to be ignored.  I'm glad someone called him on it, though.


I started to write sometning but had to give up on it.

suffice to say, if those peoples have been isolated for some 60k years, there is absolutly no gentic diversity going on there, and island full of retarded flipper babies. the last time people got to the island and the natives hid, two their elders died, and the childern that came back probably were carrying with them the same deseases that killed the elders, resulting in a plague that wiped out the majority of the population. outsiders meen DEATH, keep them away.
 
2014-03-14 10:08:01 AM  

Warthog: ummhima2: 50,000 malaysia threads and not one thread for the poor folks in Philadelphia or am i not seeing it since only 2 people went to the hospital one of them with an injury one with an "illness" maybe i remember malaysia because they cant find their ass without a map or a plane with their own radar

Those poor folks in Philly went through what amounts to a bus accident.  And there was a thread last night.


and i hear it delayed their poor poor poor vacations to floriduh
 
2014-03-14 10:11:48 AM  
i.imgur.com

From that flight path, I assume the hijackers were drunk.  Any of you Farkers want to confess?
 
2014-03-14 10:13:02 AM  

ummhima2: yes any foreign government has the ability to request help from the us in investigating a crash.  In the case of a us citizen killed in a terrorist attack or suspected terrorist attack the fbi would be able to investigate with technical assistance from the ntsb.

i believe that any foreign government can request assistance from the us in the event of disaster at least humanitarian assistance.  i would not be surprised if the us is sending other ships to the new search area like subs for the sonar and a hospital ship or other ship that could do forensic investigations during a mass casualty incident

think about all the hurricanes typhoons and earthquakes like the one in the Philippines recently


Every Navy ship is a bit of a "hospital ship", and most have helicopter decks to airlift people out to get specialized help.  The dedicated hospital ships that you are thinking about take a long time to get spooled up for a deployment and would not be activated to go help patients that probably do not exist at the destination.
 
2014-03-14 10:17:17 AM  

parasol: zimbomba63: schief2: freetomato: Until a couple of weeks ago, I'd never heard of the Andaman Islands.  I saw this recently, and am now pretty fascinated.

That Pandit guy mentioned in the article wrote a book ('The Sentinelese'), short but fascinating. Unfortunately also a biatch to find.

<i>Other unintentional encounters include on August 2, 1981,a Hong Kong freighter navigating the choppy waters of the Bay of Bengal ran aground on a submerged coral reef. The ship, called the Primrose, was hopelessly stuck. The crew stayed on their boat for a few days, when the saw native people advancing towards their ship, armed with spears, bows and arrows .The captain made a distress call via radio and the crew were airlifted to safety by helicopter.

The last recorded contact with the Sentinelese was in 2006, when the Sentinelese archers killed two fishermen who were fishing illegally within range of the island. The archers later drove off, with a hail of arrows, the helicopter that was sent to retrieve the bodies.</i>

Hard. Core.

Well, the next helicopter they send, should be a military one, with a 20mm Vulcan gun.  That would be perfect to give the old Sentinelese archers a taste of the 21st century.  Then, we'll see how "hard core" the survivors are.

I sometimes have encounters with people whose simple acts of human kindness restore my faith in the human species.  Woven into the multiple "missing jet" FARK threads is a recurring concern for the fate of the passengers/crew and their families.

Here is hoping this post is the most ugly thing I read, and that you proffer, today.

I'd ask "who peed in your cornflakes" but "you were reincarnated from the anthrax-laden blanket-giving American settlers, weren't you?" seems more fitting.


Excuse me!  I forgot we were dealing with a simple, peaceful people, you know the old "noble savage" trope, who were forced to kill the fishermen, because of their aggressive net casting.  The helicopter thing.  Simply, the pastoral people misunderstanding the intentions of the aggressive helicopter, which was attempting to aggressively retrieve the bodies of the fishermen.  The islanders might have thought it was there to aggressively take their sacred mojo away or something, so their violence was perfectly acceptable. Where there any white guys involved?  Ah, then you can sit back and with a satisfied look, because it's RACISM.  And if there weren't any white guys involved, well maybe, they built the helicopter, so naturally, RACISM.

Anthrax!  I thought the myth said it was smallpox?  American settlers!  I thought the myth said it was a British officer?  How am I to feel chastised, when you can even get your accusatory myths correct?  You need to up your game.
 
2014-03-14 10:18:35 AM  

zimbomba63: Well, the next helicopter they send, should be a military one, with a 20mm Vulcan gun. That would be perfect to give the old Sentinelese archers a taste of the 21st century. Then, we'll see how "hard core" the survivors are.


That doesn't always work out so well.

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