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(PetaPixel)   Calumet Photgraphic's "sudden" closing was no surprise to a certain group- its own employees   (petapixel.com) divider line 20
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2331 clicks; posted to Business » on 14 Mar 2014 at 9:54 AM (19 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2014-03-14 10:05:06 AM
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2014-03-14 10:31:36 AM

AltheaToldMe: [img.fark.net image 800x846]


Shouldn't that be banking powder?
 
2014-03-14 10:43:18 AM
If B&H ever goes under, I'll know it's time to give up photography.
 
2014-03-14 10:52:58 AM
Headline made me think Calumet Farm closed, that would be shocking.


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2014-03-14 10:59:22 AM

Lochsteppe: AltheaToldMe: [img.fark.net image 800x846]

Shouldn't that be banking powder?


Oh you!
 
2014-03-14 11:00:32 AM
After reading that Ive wondered what can be done to places that dont pay you. Cant you report them to the dept of labor quit and go on unemployment or do you have to jsut look for a new job while ya work for free like a sucker and wait for them to fold so you can go on unemployment?
 
2014-03-14 11:00:55 AM
Calumet Photo was a really cool store. Damn shame.
 
2014-03-14 11:05:55 AM

AMonkey'sUncle: If B&H ever goes under, I'll know it's time to give up photography.


Forget about photography, if B&H goes under we've entered the Thunderdome.
 
2014-03-14 11:52:15 AM

Komplex: AMonkey'sUncle: If B&H ever goes under, I'll know it's time to give up photography.

Forget about photography, if B&H goes under we've entered the Thunderdome.


Beards & Hats isn't going anywhere, judging by the foot traffic at their store.
 
2014-03-14 11:55:41 AM

LemSkroob: Komplex: AMonkey'sUncle: If B&H ever goes under, I'll know it's time to give up photography.

Forget about photography, if B&H goes under we've entered the Thunderdome.

Beards & Hats isn't going anywhere, judging by the foot traffic at their store.


Dammit, I laughed at that.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-03-14 11:57:11 AM
groppet

The law is very hostile towards employers who don't pay employees. In my state, the employee is entitled to punitive damages equal to a multiple of a late paycheck. In California, if I recall correctly, a laid off employee is entitled to continued pay until all back wages are paid. The responsible executives may be liable notwithstanding corporate form; I know that's the case for payroll taxes but maybe not for pay.

If you're an independent contractor instead of an employee, you're screwed.  If the company and the owners are truly out of money, you're screwed, because you can't get blood from a stone.
 
2014-03-14 12:02:36 PM

AltheaToldMe: [img.fark.net image 800x846]


Only if it is in room 237

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2014-03-14 12:37:13 PM

ZAZ: If the company and the owners are truly out of money, you're screwed, because you can't get blood from a stone.


From another article on that site:

Court papers show that Calumet is declaring less than $50K in assets and between $1M and $10M in liabilities.

Sounds like any ex-employee that is owed a paycheck is boned.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-03-14 12:52:24 PM
Google search for (individual liability unpaid wages), or (personal liability unpaid wages). You'll find there are cases where the corporate firm will not shield managers or shareholders from liability. The law says you're not supposed to keep employees on the job hoping money will miraculously appear. In egregious circumstances, your house could be the miracle.

I have no idea if any of these exceptions apply to Calumet.
 
2014-03-14 02:39:15 PM
From TFA:

PP: Was there anything that could have been done to save the business but wasn't?
CE: A lot of us expected the company to pull back. Closing some of the small stores would have made sense. Keeping open the major market stores and dedicating time to the e-commerce side would have been my move
.

Which is what B&H (Beards & Hats! I love that!) and Adorama have been doing for years. To me at least (and mainly because I don't live in the NY/NJ area) in my short time in photography (5 years) their names are synonymous with online photographic sales. These two show that brick-and-mortar & online sales can work hand-in-hand.

When looking for photographic equipment my go-to are (in this order):
1)Amazon
2)Adorama
3)B&H

For used stuff KEH

When I need it right now and know the butt rape is unavoidable our (only) local large retailer, Showcase (rare as I usually just get small sub-$100 items).
 
2014-03-14 03:07:24 PM

boogerwolf: From TFA:

PP: Was there anything that could have been done to save the business but wasn't?
CE: A lot of us expected the company to pull back. Closing some of the small stores would have made sense. Keeping open the major market stores and dedicating time to the e-commerce side would have been my move.

Which is what B&H (Beards & Hats! I love that!) and Adorama have been doing for years. To me at least (and mainly because I don't live in the NY/NJ area) in my short time in photography (5 years) their names are synonymous with online photographic sales. These two show that brick-and-mortar & online sales can work hand-in-hand.

When looking for photographic equipment my go-to are (in this order):
1)Amazon
2)Adorama
3)B&H

For used stuff KEH

When I need it right now and know the butt rape is unavoidable our (only) local large retailer, Showcase (rare as I usually just get small sub-$100 items).


I know in the DC area Penn Camera and Ritz closed most if not all their stores a few years ago.  I once asked if they price matched online (like Adorama/BH) and was told No.  Well sorry as much as I want to do business with a live person and local store. When your price is $100+ more than what I can buy online and you are not even willing to make any adjustment on your price. I'm going to buy online.
 
2014-03-14 03:39:11 PM
They crew at the Philadelphia store were great. They always took time out to help novices with even the most basic questions. Always enjoyed spending my money there.
 
2014-03-14 04:12:35 PM

boogerwolf: From TFA:

PP: Was there anything that could have been done to save the business but wasn't?
CE: A lot of us expected the company to pull back. Closing some of the small stores would have made sense. Keeping open the major market stores and dedicating time to the e-commerce side would have been my move.

Which is what B&H (Beards & Hats! I love that!) and Adorama have been doing for years. To me at least (and mainly because I don't live in the NY/NJ area) in my short time in photography (5 years) their names are synonymous with online photographic sales. These two show that brick-and-mortar & online sales can work hand-in-hand.

When looking for photographic equipment my go-to are (in this order):
1)Amazon
2)Adorama
3)B&H

For used stuff KEH

When I need it right now and know the butt rape is unavoidable our (only) local large retailer, Showcase (rare as I usually just get small sub-$100 items).


Adorama sucks if you live in the US because most of the stuff they sell (Canon anyway) is non US warranty items either from the EU or Canada.  B&H is the shiznit, and CineQuipt in Minneapolis is a very, very close second if you're looking for video, motion picture or lighting gear.
 
2014-03-14 09:29:17 PM

FilmBELOH20: boogerwolf: From TFA:

PP: Was there anything that could have been done to save the business but wasn't?
CE: A lot of us expected the company to pull back. Closing some of the small stores would have made sense. Keeping open the major market stores and dedicating time to the e-commerce side would have been my move.

Which is what B&H (Beards & Hats! I love that!) and Adorama have been doing for years. To me at least (and mainly because I don't live in the NY/NJ area) in my short time in photography (5 years) their names are synonymous with online photographic sales. These two show that brick-and-mortar & online sales can work hand-in-hand.

When looking for photographic equipment my go-to are (in this order):
1)Amazon
2)Adorama
3)B&H

For used stuff KEH

When I need it right now and know the butt rape is unavoidable our (only) local large retailer, Showcase (rare as I usually just get small sub-$100 items).

Adorama sucks if you live in the US because most of the stuff they sell (Canon anyway) is non US warranty items either from the EU or Canada.  B&H is the shiznit, and CineQuipt in Minneapolis is a very, very close second if you're looking for video, motion picture or lighting gear.



Don't know how you buy your stuff, but they are VERY clear on the item descriptions if you are buying a USA warranty or grey market.
 
2014-03-15 03:41:41 AM
I wish I had rented a camera from them....

Wow. That relly sucks
 
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