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2014-03-14 08:21:22 AM  
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2014-03-14 08:38:50 AM  
About time.
 
2014-03-14 08:39:53 AM  

Langdon_777: About time.


If it had been a white kid, it would have been faster.
 
2014-03-14 08:43:31 AM  

vudukungfu: Langdon_777: About time.

If it had been a white kid, it would have been faster.


If it were a white kid it would have been solved within the first 48 hours.

But amazingly. black kids have the innate ability to fit themselves into tight spaces and pass away. That's science!
 
2014-03-14 08:44:16 AM  
Lowndes County blowing off a black teens death, say it ain't so.

/They were probably too busy writing tickets on I-75 to do a proper investigation.
 
2014-03-14 08:44:37 AM  
I read the coroners name as "Bill Watterson" and was all "So that's what he's doing now".

/Transmogrifying people into clues
 
2014-03-14 08:47:57 AM  
I remember how when the school released the video of the incident it was cut and spliced and had jump cuts all in it. It showed everything before and after, but not the incident itself. That videotape was cut up more than an emo girl's wrists.
 
2014-03-14 08:50:15 AM  
Racism in Macon, Georgia?  You don't say...

/was anyone really buying the "crawled INTO a rolled up mat to retrieve a shoe" theory?
 
2014-03-14 08:51:09 AM  

gregory311: Racism in Macon, Georgia?  You don't say...

/was anyone really buying the "crawled INTO a rolled up mat to retrieve a shoe" theory?


Valdosta, GA but close enough.
 
2014-03-14 08:53:38 AM  

Tom_Slick: gregory311: Racism in Macon, Georgia?  You don't say...

/was anyone really buying the "crawled INTO a rolled up mat to retrieve a shoe" theory?

Valdosta, GA but close enough.


What's a couple of hours when there's hate involved, you know?
 
2014-03-14 08:54:08 AM  

Walker: I remember how when the school released the video of the incident it was cut and spliced and had jump cuts all in it. It showed everything before and after, but not the incident itself. That videotape was cut up more than an emo girl's wrists.


this.  that video was so sketchy; and hate to think it but how much you want to bet there is no other copy (digital or tape) still available?
 
2014-03-14 08:57:23 AM  

danielscissorhands: vudukungfu: Langdon_777: About time.

If it had been a white kid, it would have been faster.

If it were a white kid it would have been solved within the first 48 hours.

But amazingly. black kids have the innate ability to fit themselves into tight spaces and pass away. That's science!


Right. Because the cops are only incompetent with blacks. With white victims, all of a sudden they know how to perform an autopsy
and investigation.

Or maybe there's actually some racist bean counter sitting at city hall telling the Police Chief to mark it accidental so they don't have to waste any man-hours solving a negro crime.

There's racism and then there's this stupid shiat. Save your outrage for a real racism case.
 
2014-03-14 08:58:31 AM  
No I don't remember.
 
2014-03-14 08:58:59 AM  

gregory311: What's a couple of hours when there's hate involved, you know?


I went to college in Valdosta, I haven't really spent that much time in Macon, in the 90s at least, the politics and racial climate of the place resembled what you would have expected to find in the south in the 1950s.
 
2014-03-14 08:59:49 AM  
He's not a pretty white girl.  What is the government's interest in this matter...

/snark
 
2014-03-14 09:00:06 AM  

Cerebral Ballsy: danielscissorhands: vudukungfu: Langdon_777: About time.

If it had been a white kid, it would have been faster.

If it were a white kid it would have been solved within the first 48 hours.

But amazingly. black kids have the innate ability to fit themselves into tight spaces and pass away. That's science!

Right. Because the cops are only incompetent with blacks. With white victims, all of a sudden they know how to perform an autopsy
and investigation.

Or maybe there's actually some racist bean counter sitting at city hall telling the Police Chief to mark it accidental so they don't have to waste any man-hours solving a negro crime.

There's racism and then there's this stupid shiat. Save your outrage for a real racism case.


Sorry. I do apologize.
I meant to post "If it had been a young, blonde, white girl..."
 
2014-03-14 09:00:23 AM  

swankywanky: Walker: I remember how when the school released the video of the incident it was cut and spliced and had jump cuts all in it. It showed everything before and after, but not the incident itself. That videotape was cut up more than an emo girl's wrists.

this.  that video was so sketchy; and hate to think it but how much you want to bet there is no other copy (digital or tape) still available?


Do you have a link to that video?
 
2014-03-14 09:02:15 AM  

swankywanky: Walker: I remember how when the school released the video of the incident it was cut and spliced and had jump cuts all in it. It showed everything before and after, but not the incident itself. That videotape was cut up more than an emo girl's wrists.

this.  that video was so sketchy; and hate to think it but how much you want to bet there is no other copy (digital or tape) still available?


Isn't something like that, you know, tampering with evidence and a felony?

Shouldn't someone be in jail JUST for that action?

I bet the officials involved were also outraged when Clinton lied about a blowjob.
 
2014-03-14 09:02:41 AM  
Well it seems that the kid beat himself up pretty good before accidentally suffocating himself looking for his shoe. Must have been pretty mad at himself for losing that shoe.
 
2014-03-14 09:04:18 AM  

gregory311: Racism in Macon, Georgia?  You don't say...

/was anyone really buying the "crawled INTO a rolled up mat to retrieve a shoe" theory?


It's a majority black city. The principal is black. I would say it's far more of a "cover our asses" moment than racism.
 
2014-03-14 09:06:49 AM  
The way this is progressing, next they'll have the kid on the passenger manifest for Flight 370.
 
2014-03-14 09:07:40 AM  

vudukungfu: Cerebral Ballsy: danielscissorhands: vudukungfu: Langdon_777: About time.

If it had been a white kid, it would have been faster.

If it were a white kid it would have been solved within the first 48 hours.

But amazingly. black kids have the innate ability to fit themselves into tight spaces and pass away. That's science!

Right. Because the cops are only incompetent with blacks. With white victims, all of a sudden they know how to perform an autopsy
and investigation.

Or maybe there's actually some racist bean counter sitting at city hall telling the Police Chief to mark it accidental so they don't have to waste any man-hours solving a negro crime.

There's racism and then there's this stupid shiat. Save your outrage for a real racism case.

Sorry. I do apologize.
I meant to post "If it had been a young, blonde, white girl..."


You're confusing the media with the cops.

I especially have a hard time buying the racism angle with the coroner's report. This is just incompetence.

I wonder how much coroners and medical examiners make? Is it on par with private practice?
 
2014-03-14 09:07:56 AM  

ArkAngel: gregory311: Racism in Macon, Georgia?  You don't say...

/was anyone really buying the "crawled INTO a rolled up mat to retrieve a shoe" theory?

It's a majority black city. The principal is black. I would say it's far more of a "cover our asses" moment than racism.


Motivation, IMHO, is irrelevant.  If idiot administrators are covering their ass by committing a felony then put them in jail.  The current bullshiat that people with white collars should get fined and slapped on the wrist has to go.
 
2014-03-14 09:08:05 AM  

d23: I bet the officials involved were also outraged when Clinton lied about a blowjob.


Sounds like a risky bet.  Ask for odds.
 
2014-03-14 09:09:05 AM  

ArkAngel: gregory311: Racism in Macon, Georgia?  You don't say...

/was anyone really buying the "crawled INTO a rolled up mat to retrieve a shoe" theory?

It's a majority black city. The principal is black. I would say it's far more of a "cover our asses" moment than racism.


Yeah I think it's early to assume racism. Sweeping under the mat plus police incompetence should not be discounted yet.
 
2014-03-14 09:09:48 AM  

Cerebral Ballsy: I wonder how much coroners and medical examiners make? Is it on par with private practice?


Well.. I don't know how much they make, but it's doubtful we have a lot of people like "Quincy M.E." in our city governments.
 
2014-03-14 09:10:42 AM  

Cerebral Ballsy: There's racism and then there's this stupid shiat. Save your outrage for a real racism case.


You are right, this case was not swept under the rug because he was black.  It was swept under the rug because he was not from a prominent local family, not a star football player, and most importantly, a murder would have looked bad to the school's athletic department. Race probably doesn't play into it. I noticed the other High School in the area is being questioned as well, I would bet that some kind of intimidation by both schools athletic departments are being accused of intimidation. Valdosta/Lowndes could have been the setting for Friday Night Lights.
 
2014-03-14 09:13:59 AM  

Cerebral Ballsy: I wonder how much coroners and medical examiners make? Is it on par with private practice?


I don't know, but the previous coroner in my county fought bravely in WWII.  For Italy.

He was known for his amazing ability to to determine the cause of death at the scene without ever getting out of his car.
 
2014-03-14 09:17:39 AM  
This death stunk to high heaven and I'm glad someone is doing something about it.

If anything, there's a lot of general farking incompetence in the macon police and coroners office.
 
2014-03-14 09:20:22 AM  
So, the best I can surmise from the minimal evidence is that this kid may have been accidentally killed while being bullied by football players, and the administration covered it up/didn't pursue it aggressively because football is GOD in South Georgia. Still seems like it should be a GBI investigation; is being denied justice because you're not a football player a federal civil rights issue?
 
2014-03-14 09:20:24 AM  

vudukungfu: Cerebral Ballsy:

There's racism and then there's this stupid shiat. Save your outrage for a real racism case.

Sorry. I do apologize.
I meant to post "If it had been a young, blonde, white girl..."


* Little beauty queen in Denver Exemption
 
2014-03-14 09:20:39 AM  
The farked up part was how the kids organs went missing and he was stuffed with newspaper for the funeral
 
2014-03-14 09:22:58 AM  

nubzers: swankywanky: Walker: I remember how when the school released the video of the incident it was cut and spliced and had jump cuts all in it. It showed everything before and after, but not the incident itself. That videotape was cut up more than an emo girl's wrists.

this.  that video was so sketchy; and hate to think it but how much you want to bet there is no other copy (digital or tape) still available?

Do you have a link to that video?


Link
 
2014-03-14 09:24:23 AM  

styckx: The farked up part was how the kids organs went missing and he was stuffed with newspaper for the funeral


O_o
 
2014-03-14 09:27:46 AM  

styckx: The farked up part was how the kids organs went missing and he was stuffed with newspaper for the funeral


That is kida jacked up, but at least he wasn't stuffed with old copies of Jet Magazine.
 
2014-03-14 09:28:07 AM  

mbillips: So, the best I can surmise from the minimal evidence is that this kid may have been accidentally killed while being bullied by football players, and the administration covered it up/didn't pursue it aggressively because football is GOD in South Georgia. Still seems like it should be a GBI investigation; is being denied justice because you're not a football player a federal civil rights issue?


Because the GBI agents investigating also lived in south Georgia
 
2014-03-14 09:31:13 AM  

shortymac: This death stunk to high heaven and I'm glad someone is doing something about it.

If anything, there's a lot of general farking incompetence in the macon police and coroners office.


It DIDN'T HAPPEN IN MACON. Sheesh. That's just the dateline of where the story was filed. Lowndes County is about two hours south of Macon, and much more rural. Not that Macon hasn't had its own incompetent coroner (which is an elected position requiring no qualification whatsoever). In the late '80s, they had a guy who was so racist and so blasé about his job that he mistakenly declared a victim died of natural causes when he'd actually been shot in the head. The coroner's excuse was that he couldn't see the bullet hole "in all that wool on his head."

Typical Georgia county coroner is a funeral home director who does it in his spare time. If they get something suspicious, they're supposed to call in the state medical examiner's office.
 
2014-03-14 09:35:26 AM  

shortymac: This death stunk to high heaven and I'm glad someone is doing something about it.

If anything, there's a lot of general farking incompetence in the macon police and coroners office.


shall we repeat the word "Valdosta" a thousand times until you start perceiving facts laid out quite clearly in the article?
 
2014-03-14 09:37:32 AM  
Why is the FBI involved?  Where is the Federal jurisdiction?
 
2014-03-14 09:40:06 AM  

Handsome B. Wonderful: No I don't remember.


Sure, Hillary
 
2014-03-14 09:44:18 AM  

mbillips: shortymac: This death stunk to high heaven and I'm glad someone is doing something about it.

If anything, there's a lot of general farking incompetence in the macon police and coroners office.

It DIDN'T HAPPEN IN MACON. Sheesh. That's just the dateline of where the story was filed. Lowndes County is about two hours south of Macon, and much more rural. Not that Macon hasn't had its own incompetent coroner (which is an elected position requiring no qualification whatsoever). In the late '80s, they had a guy who was so racist and so blasé about his job that he mistakenly declared a victim died of natural causes when he'd actually been shot in the head. The coroner's excuse was that he couldn't see the bullet hole "in all that wool on his head."

Typical Georgia county coroner is a funeral home director who does it in his spare time. If they get something suspicious, they're supposed to call in the state medical examiner's office.


Magnus: shortymac: This death stunk to high heaven and I'm glad someone is doing something about it.

If anything, there's a lot of general farking incompetence in the macon police and coroners office.

shall we repeat the word "Valdosta" a thousand times until you start perceiving facts laid out quite clearly in the article?


Forgive me, I got the exact geographical area wrong. I am not from Georgia and didn't have a clue.
 
2014-03-14 09:45:11 AM  

Animatronik: Yeah I think it's early to assume racism. Sweeping under the mat plus police incompetence should not be discounted yet.


www.the-games-blog.com
 
2014-03-14 09:46:13 AM  

Thallone1: Handsome B. Wonderful: No I don't remember.

Sure, HillaryOllie

.

/*adjusts onion*
 
2014-03-14 09:50:37 AM  

Incredulous: Why is the FBI involved?  Where is the Federal jurisdiction?


Not sure if it's the case in this situation, but usually the FBI gets involved if it thinks the local authorities are corrupt or attempting a cover-up.
 
2014-03-14 09:52:38 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: Thallone1: Handsome B. Wonderful: No I don't remember.

Sure, HillaryOllie.

/*adjusts onion*


The difference being Ollie hasn't tried to run for President after _his_ lies.
 
2014-03-14 10:06:47 AM  

Incredulous: Why is the FBI involved?  Where is the Federal jurisdiction?


Incredulous?  Or Concerned?  And who precisely do you suggest custodiet ipsos custodes?   In cases of malfeasance or incompetence at the local government level are we supposed to, I don't know...wait for the invisible hand of the free market to fix it somehow?
 
2014-03-14 10:11:38 AM  
Before you start screaming "cover up", please do some more research from actual non-biased sources.  The Feds have gotten involved, but so far they have given no indication what-so-ever that they disagree with the State's findings in the investigation.  There has been zero new evidence at all that points to a cover up, while at the same time, further analysis of what evidence there actually is in the case, has only continued to reinforce the official findings.  There's nothing fishy about the surveillance videos, there's no sign that they were tampered with, the original theory of the case, while bizarre, has been shown to be both physically possible and in line with all the evidence gathered at the site.  At this point, it would be one of the biggest cover ups in criminal history if it was discovered that Kendrick Johnson's death was anything other than a tragic accident.
 
2014-03-14 10:14:12 AM  
Somebody had parents who expected him to get an education and get the hell out of south Georgia crossed up with one of the football fools the area is known for.  The bigotry angle is that by trying to escape rural crushing poverty with an scholastic scholarship versus a football scholarship is called 'acting white' by one group or 'getting uppity' by another group.  Both groups prefer the status quo, so deviants must be eliminated.
 
2014-03-14 10:27:28 AM  

Incredulous: Why is the FBI involved?  Where is the Federal jurisdiction?


Civil rights law. If the local and state cops deny you due process, the feds can get involved.
 
2014-03-14 10:32:21 AM  
Valdosta High School covers the city of Valdosta and is mostly black so I really doubt it was racism. Almost all the teachers and administrators are black. The county school Lowndes High covered all the suburbs and is mostly white. I would buy the covering for the football team theory but that is a heck of a risk to take. But it would be black on black crime covered up by black coaches and administrators.
 
2014-03-14 10:33:43 AM  

positronica: Before you start screaming "cover up", please do some more research from actual non-biased sources.  The Feds have gotten involved, but so far they have given no indication what-so-ever that they disagree with the State's findings in the investigation.  There has been zero new evidence at all that points to a cover up, while at the same time, further analysis of what evidence there actually is in the case, has only continued to reinforce the official findings.  There's nothing fishy about the surveillance videos, there's no sign that they were tampered with, the original theory of the case, while bizarre, has been shown to be both physically possible and in line with all the evidence gathered at the site.  At this point, it would be one of the biggest cover ups in criminal history if it was discovered that Kendrick Johnson's death was anything other than a tragic accident.


I also seem to remember hearing that the family involved shopped around until they found both a pathologist that was willing to say it was murder (who's name and accreditation I can't immediately find), and in the same time frame, a lawyer who focused on black civil rights.  They held a number of press conferences as well as a sit-in protest in front of the court house with signs demanding 'justice'.

My opinion at the time was that they were looking for the money angle, and trying to somehow, desperately, play the race card.  I felt vindicated when they later sued the funeral home for stuffing the empty body with newspaper, after a review board found no fault with the funeral home.

My big takeaway is simplistic;  they're angry they don't have anyone to blame so they'll lash out at everyone around them, and at least a few of the players have been energized by the thought that there's a racial element or money to be made.  When you're angry, everyone else is to blame, and when there's a pro-bono civil rights lawyer taking on the case for you, anyone with money is a preferred target.
 
2014-03-14 10:36:45 AM  

positronica: Before you start screaming "cover up", please do some more research from actual non-biased sources.  The Feds have gotten involved, but so far they have given no indication what-so-ever that they disagree with the State's findings in the investigation.  There has been zero new evidence at all that points to a cover up, while at the same time, further analysis of what evidence there actually is in the case, has only continued to reinforce the official findings.   There's nothing fishy about the surveillance videos, there's no sign that they were tampered with, the original theory of the case, while bizarre, has been shown to be both physically possible and in line with all the evidence gathered at the site.  At this point, it would be one of the biggest cover ups in criminal history if it was discovered that Kendrick Johnson's death was anything other than a tragic accident.


http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/21/justice/kendrick-johnson-surveillance- vi deos/

So a 1-2 hour gap in time on all four videos is not weird at all? Yeah, ok.
 
2014-03-14 10:39:03 AM  

Walker: I remember how when the school released the video of the incident it was cut and spliced and had jump cuts all in it. It showed everything before and after, but not the incident itself. That videotape was cut up more than an emo girl's wrists.


As I recall, the cameras were motion activated. They started when they detected motion, and then stopped a certain time after they stopped sensing any motion.  That was why the tape appeared jumpy and cut as the cameras stopped and started with the motion.  Many use the same system since it is much more efficient because there is theoretically no need to tape when nothing is happening.
 
2014-03-14 10:39:30 AM  
Where was Zimmerman at the time?
 
2014-03-14 10:44:24 AM  

Cerebral Ballsy: I wonder how much coroners and medical examiners make? Is it on par with private practice?


You do realize coroner in many jurisdictions is essentially a political role and does not actually require one be an M.D. (or even have basic scientific training), right?

Georgia requires that you be at least 25 years old, have no felony convictions, have a high-school education and complete a week's training course in death investigation before you take the job.
 
2014-03-14 10:57:53 AM  
Didn't he also accidentally stuff himself full of newspaper after his autopsy? o_O
 
2014-03-14 10:58:05 AM  

LawyerBuzz: Walker: I remember how when the school released the video of the incident it was cut and spliced and had jump cuts all in it. It showed everything before and after, but not the incident itself. That videotape was cut up more than an emo girl's wrists.

As I recall, the cameras were motion activated. They started when they detected motion, and then stopped a certain time after they stopped sensing any motion.  That was why the tape appeared jumpy and cut as the cameras stopped and started with the motion.  Many use the same system since it is much more efficient because there is theoretically no need to tape when nothing is happening.


Having installed several DVR systems, I can also add that you can set up the portion of the screen that is activated by motion. If the cameras were not set correctly, there could be portions of the screen that were not in the purview of the motion detection boxes laid out when the security system was installed. If a camera is set up to detect motion, then that motion has to be within the parameters within the setup. Some cameras will have motion for the entire screen if set that way, but some do not. None the less, this is kind of a strange case.

I never saw it the first time, now I am crazy curious.
 
2014-03-14 11:05:17 AM  
There seems to be something fishy about this case.  However, I'm not from the area so I don't know the local politics.  Would a school or schools really go out of their way to cover up a murder to protect a football team, or prominent students?  Also, this could just be a case of the media drumming up a situation to fill the 24 hour news cycle.

/hard evidence is required
//let the FBI do their job
 
2014-03-14 11:09:31 AM  
I have a feeling they're going to find out that a bunch of other kids were standing on the mat while he was rolled up on it.
 
2014-03-14 11:12:58 AM  

Cerebral Ballsy: danielscissorhands: vudukungfu: Langdon_777: About time.

If it had been a white kid, it would have been faster.

If it were a white kid it would have been solved within the first 48 hours.

But amazingly. black kids have the innate ability to fit themselves into tight spaces and pass away. That's science!

Right. Because the cops are only incompetent with blacks. With white victims, all of a sudden they know how to perform an autopsy
and investigation.

Or maybe there's actually some racist bean counter sitting at city hall telling the Police Chief to mark it accidental so they don't have to waste any man-hours solving a negro crime.

There's racism and then there's this stupid shiat. Save your outrage for a real racism case.


Dude this is Fark, the liberal Mecca of the internet. Everything is racist.
 
2014-03-14 11:22:34 AM  

chuggernaught: Would a school or schools really go out of their way to cover up a murder to protect a football team, or prominent students?


Yes, they would. The high school football stadium is next to the college campus, because the high school used to be but hasn't been since the 1980s. Anyway the fights after the game were always blamed on college students even though we knew to stay the hell away from there on Friday Nights. The Stadium seats over 10,000 and is too small on Friday nights,
 
2014-03-14 11:36:39 AM  

chuggernaught: There seems to be something fishy about this case.  However, I'm not from the area so I don't know the local politics.  Would a school or schools really go out of their way to cover up a murder to protect a football team, or prominent students?  Also, this could just be a case of the media drumming up a situation to fill the 24 hour news cycle.

/hard evidence is required
//let the FBI do their job


Yes, just look at the Maryville, Stubenville, and Penn State cases.

Football brings in huge amounts of money, and you have to protect your cash cow.
 
2014-03-14 11:49:51 AM  

Saners: positronica: Before you start screaming "cover up", please do some more research from actual non-biased sources.  The Feds have gotten involved, but so far they have given no indication what-so-ever that they disagree with the State's findings in the investigation.  There has been zero new evidence at all that points to a cover up, while at the same time, further analysis of what evidence there actually is in the case, has only continued to reinforce the official findings.   There's nothing fishy about the surveillance videos, there's no sign that they were tampered with, the original theory of the case, while bizarre, has been shown to be both physically possible and in line with all the evidence gathered at the site.  At this point, it would be one of the biggest cover ups in criminal history if it was discovered that Kendrick Johnson's death was anything other than a tragic accident.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/21/justice/kendrick-johnson-surveillance- vi deos/

So a 1-2 hour gap in time on all four videos is not weird at all? Yeah, ok.


That CNN article was already debunked quite a while ago.  There's no unexplained gaps in the video.  The school uses multiple surveillance systems made by different manufacturers, and they don't all have synced time codes.  Here's a link to a more in depth article that explains the systems and that analyzes the video after taking into account the known differences in the time codes and the limitations of the various systems' motion sensing abilities...

http://www.valdostadailytimes.com/kendrick-johnson/x1267064755/Kendr ic k-s-Final-Walk

Look up the radio interviews and writings by Leigh Touchton, too.  She's the NAACP's representative that was originally put in charge of doing an independent investigation.  She found no evidence of a cover-up, and further, she found that the official findings in the case fit with the evidence, and she reached the opinion that the Kendrick family's attorneys have made a lot of false statements.
 
2014-03-14 11:57:21 AM  

The My Little Pony Killer: I have a feeling they're going to find out that a bunch of other kids were standing on the mat while he was rolled up on it.


Sounds very likely.  Based on the school's web site alone (state champs, sponsors, srs bzns, rah rah!), I'd say they are protecting some star football player(s) or some similar shiat.
 
2014-03-14 12:17:08 PM  
Lowndes County High School's stadium seats about 10,000. They've won four state championships in the past 15 years. Would school administrators deliberately cover up a murder to protect the football program? I doubt it. But would they put a lot of effort into trying to FIND a murder, if they had another explanation not involving a football player? Probably not.

www.lowndesfootball.com
 
2014-03-14 12:22:58 PM  
The fact that state investigators looked into this and found no foul play makes me suspect nothing happened. The GBI are a pretty professional bunch, not noted for racism, and they care a lot more about catching bad guys than protecting some town's football program. They make a lot of anti-corruption arrests of local law enforcement and government types; they'd burn a principal or a football coach to the ground without blinking.
 
2014-03-14 01:22:43 PM  

mbillips: So, the best I can surmise from the minimal evidence is that this kid may have been accidentally killed while being bullied by football players, and the administration covered it up/didn't pursue it aggressively because football is GOD in South Georgia. Still seems like it should be a GBI investigation; is being denied justice because you're not a football player a federal civil rights issue?



And/or the killer is from a prominent family that had the juice to get it covered up.
 
jvl
2014-03-14 02:40:51 PM  
After double-checking on the investigation, the Feds will agree the kid Darwined himself.
 
2014-03-14 03:10:42 PM  

GranoblasticMan: Cerebral Ballsy: I wonder how much coroners and medical examiners make? Is it on par with private practice?

You do realize coroner in many jurisdictions is essentially a political role and does not actually require one be an M.D. (or even have basic scientific training), right?

Georgia requires that you be at least 25 years old, have no felony convictions, have a high-school education and complete a week's training course in death investigation before you take the job.


What. The. Fark.
 
2014-03-14 03:25:05 PM  

Cerebral Ballsy: GranoblasticMan: Cerebral Ballsy: I wonder how much coroners and medical examiners make? Is it on par with private practice?

You do realize coroner in many jurisdictions is essentially a political role and does not actually require one be an M.D. (or even have basic scientific training), right?

Georgia requires that you be at least 25 years old, have no felony convictions, have a high-school education and complete a week's training course in death investigation before you take the job.

What. The. Fark.


Exactly my reaction when I found out too. =(
 
2014-03-14 03:53:15 PM  

TerminalEchoes: Dude this is Fark, the liberal Mecca of the internet. Everything is racist.


Hey! I have plenty of white friends.
 
2014-03-14 03:54:01 PM  

Cerebral Ballsy: and complete a week's training course in death investigation before you take the job.


What. The. Fark.


WTF?
 
2014-03-14 04:42:25 PM  

Walker: Incredulous: Why is the FBI involved?  Where is the Federal jurisdiction?

Not sure if it's the case in this situation, but usually the FBI gets involved if it thinks the local authorities are corrupt or attempting a cover-up.


What about the other bazillion cases that are more cut and dry coverups and civil rights violations?

It's a pretty valid question.  I'd hate to think they are basically taking cases based off of the media attention.
 
2014-03-14 05:51:50 PM  
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Sorry CNN, you're not going to get Zimmerman ratings again.
 
2014-03-14 07:44:25 PM  
Best friend is an assistant DA in Lowndes County. Asked what she thought about it. Said she'd reviewed all the evidence and that it is indeed a case of horrible accidental death. There's no evidence suggesting otherwise.

A civil rights leader reviewed the evidence and came to the same conclusion as the investigators: http://www.valdostadailytimes.com/kend rick-johnson/x2112910298/Rose-To uchton-believe-no-cover-up-in-Johnson- case?mobRedir=false

It is a horrible tragedy, and I hope the family can find some sort of peace.

/Have lived in Valdosta
//It's not the racist cesspool everyone seems to think it is
 
2014-03-14 08:16:04 PM  
I remember one of my kids when he was 8 years old accidentally setting fire to the living room rug. I went easy on him, as per the advice of a strange man I met 59 years ago who shares my son's name and his physical features.
 
2014-03-14 09:47:26 PM  

AliasSally: Best friend is an assistant DA in Lowndes County. Asked what she thought about it. Said she'd reviewed all the evidence and that it is indeed a case of horrible accidental death. There's no evidence suggesting otherwise.

A civil rights leader reviewed the evidence and came to the same conclusion as the investigators: http://www.valdostadailytimes.com/kend rick-johnson/x2112910298/Rose-To uchton-believe-no-cover-up-in-Johnson- case?mobRedir=false

It is a horrible tragedy, and I hope the family can find some sort of peace.

/Have lived in Valdosta
//It's not the racist cesspool everyone seems to think it is


^ This. I lived in Valdosta for nearly 30 years. Is it football-crazy? Yup. Is the city high school predominantly black and the county high school predominantly white? Yup. Is the Sheriff's department a bunch of bumbling, racist yokels who'd cover up a murder in the name of football? Hell no. It's a professional group of law enforcement officers. The Sheriff is a good dude.

It sucks the kid died, but his family looking to essentially profit from his death and wasting public resources in the process is sickening.
 
2014-03-15 07:20:35 PM  
#JusticeForKendrick
 
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