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(CNN)   Remember when that kid "accidentally" killed himself by falling into a gym mat? The federal government remembers   (cnn.com) divider line 78
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2014-03-14 08:21:22 AM  
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2014-03-14 08:38:50 AM  
About time.
 
2014-03-14 08:39:53 AM  

Langdon_777: About time.


If it had been a white kid, it would have been faster.
 
2014-03-14 08:43:31 AM  

vudukungfu: Langdon_777: About time.

If it had been a white kid, it would have been faster.


If it were a white kid it would have been solved within the first 48 hours.

But amazingly. black kids have the innate ability to fit themselves into tight spaces and pass away. That's science!
 
2014-03-14 08:44:16 AM  
Lowndes County blowing off a black teens death, say it ain't so.

/They were probably too busy writing tickets on I-75 to do a proper investigation.
 
2014-03-14 08:44:37 AM  
I read the coroners name as "Bill Watterson" and was all "So that's what he's doing now".

/Transmogrifying people into clues
 
2014-03-14 08:47:57 AM  
I remember how when the school released the video of the incident it was cut and spliced and had jump cuts all in it. It showed everything before and after, but not the incident itself. That videotape was cut up more than an emo girl's wrists.
 
2014-03-14 08:50:15 AM  
Racism in Macon, Georgia?  You don't say...

/was anyone really buying the "crawled INTO a rolled up mat to retrieve a shoe" theory?
 
2014-03-14 08:51:09 AM  

gregory311: Racism in Macon, Georgia?  You don't say...

/was anyone really buying the "crawled INTO a rolled up mat to retrieve a shoe" theory?


Valdosta, GA but close enough.
 
2014-03-14 08:53:38 AM  

Tom_Slick: gregory311: Racism in Macon, Georgia?  You don't say...

/was anyone really buying the "crawled INTO a rolled up mat to retrieve a shoe" theory?

Valdosta, GA but close enough.


What's a couple of hours when there's hate involved, you know?
 
2014-03-14 08:54:08 AM  

Walker: I remember how when the school released the video of the incident it was cut and spliced and had jump cuts all in it. It showed everything before and after, but not the incident itself. That videotape was cut up more than an emo girl's wrists.


this.  that video was so sketchy; and hate to think it but how much you want to bet there is no other copy (digital or tape) still available?
 
2014-03-14 08:57:23 AM  

danielscissorhands: vudukungfu: Langdon_777: About time.

If it had been a white kid, it would have been faster.

If it were a white kid it would have been solved within the first 48 hours.

But amazingly. black kids have the innate ability to fit themselves into tight spaces and pass away. That's science!


Right. Because the cops are only incompetent with blacks. With white victims, all of a sudden they know how to perform an autopsy
and investigation.

Or maybe there's actually some racist bean counter sitting at city hall telling the Police Chief to mark it accidental so they don't have to waste any man-hours solving a negro crime.

There's racism and then there's this stupid shiat. Save your outrage for a real racism case.
 
2014-03-14 08:58:31 AM  
No I don't remember.
 
2014-03-14 08:58:59 AM  

gregory311: What's a couple of hours when there's hate involved, you know?


I went to college in Valdosta, I haven't really spent that much time in Macon, in the 90s at least, the politics and racial climate of the place resembled what you would have expected to find in the south in the 1950s.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-03-14 08:59:49 AM  
He's not a pretty white girl.  What is the government's interest in this matter...

/snark
 
2014-03-14 09:00:06 AM  

Cerebral Ballsy: danielscissorhands: vudukungfu: Langdon_777: About time.

If it had been a white kid, it would have been faster.

If it were a white kid it would have been solved within the first 48 hours.

But amazingly. black kids have the innate ability to fit themselves into tight spaces and pass away. That's science!

Right. Because the cops are only incompetent with blacks. With white victims, all of a sudden they know how to perform an autopsy
and investigation.

Or maybe there's actually some racist bean counter sitting at city hall telling the Police Chief to mark it accidental so they don't have to waste any man-hours solving a negro crime.

There's racism and then there's this stupid shiat. Save your outrage for a real racism case.


Sorry. I do apologize.
I meant to post "If it had been a young, blonde, white girl..."
 
2014-03-14 09:00:23 AM  

swankywanky: Walker: I remember how when the school released the video of the incident it was cut and spliced and had jump cuts all in it. It showed everything before and after, but not the incident itself. That videotape was cut up more than an emo girl's wrists.

this.  that video was so sketchy; and hate to think it but how much you want to bet there is no other copy (digital or tape) still available?


Do you have a link to that video?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-03-14 09:02:15 AM  

swankywanky: Walker: I remember how when the school released the video of the incident it was cut and spliced and had jump cuts all in it. It showed everything before and after, but not the incident itself. That videotape was cut up more than an emo girl's wrists.

this.  that video was so sketchy; and hate to think it but how much you want to bet there is no other copy (digital or tape) still available?


Isn't something like that, you know, tampering with evidence and a felony?

Shouldn't someone be in jail JUST for that action?

I bet the officials involved were also outraged when Clinton lied about a blowjob.
 
2014-03-14 09:02:41 AM  
Well it seems that the kid beat himself up pretty good before accidentally suffocating himself looking for his shoe. Must have been pretty mad at himself for losing that shoe.
 
2014-03-14 09:04:18 AM  

gregory311: Racism in Macon, Georgia?  You don't say...

/was anyone really buying the "crawled INTO a rolled up mat to retrieve a shoe" theory?


It's a majority black city. The principal is black. I would say it's far more of a "cover our asses" moment than racism.
 
2014-03-14 09:06:49 AM  
The way this is progressing, next they'll have the kid on the passenger manifest for Flight 370.
 
2014-03-14 09:07:40 AM  

vudukungfu: Cerebral Ballsy: danielscissorhands: vudukungfu: Langdon_777: About time.

If it had been a white kid, it would have been faster.

If it were a white kid it would have been solved within the first 48 hours.

But amazingly. black kids have the innate ability to fit themselves into tight spaces and pass away. That's science!

Right. Because the cops are only incompetent with blacks. With white victims, all of a sudden they know how to perform an autopsy
and investigation.

Or maybe there's actually some racist bean counter sitting at city hall telling the Police Chief to mark it accidental so they don't have to waste any man-hours solving a negro crime.

There's racism and then there's this stupid shiat. Save your outrage for a real racism case.

Sorry. I do apologize.
I meant to post "If it had been a young, blonde, white girl..."


You're confusing the media with the cops.

I especially have a hard time buying the racism angle with the coroner's report. This is just incompetence.

I wonder how much coroners and medical examiners make? Is it on par with private practice?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-03-14 09:07:56 AM  

ArkAngel: gregory311: Racism in Macon, Georgia?  You don't say...

/was anyone really buying the "crawled INTO a rolled up mat to retrieve a shoe" theory?

It's a majority black city. The principal is black. I would say it's far more of a "cover our asses" moment than racism.


Motivation, IMHO, is irrelevant.  If idiot administrators are covering their ass by committing a felony then put them in jail.  The current bullshiat that people with white collars should get fined and slapped on the wrist has to go.
 
2014-03-14 09:08:05 AM  

d23: I bet the officials involved were also outraged when Clinton lied about a blowjob.


Sounds like a risky bet.  Ask for odds.
 
2014-03-14 09:09:05 AM  

ArkAngel: gregory311: Racism in Macon, Georgia?  You don't say...

/was anyone really buying the "crawled INTO a rolled up mat to retrieve a shoe" theory?

It's a majority black city. The principal is black. I would say it's far more of a "cover our asses" moment than racism.


Yeah I think it's early to assume racism. Sweeping under the mat plus police incompetence should not be discounted yet.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-03-14 09:09:48 AM  

Cerebral Ballsy: I wonder how much coroners and medical examiners make? Is it on par with private practice?


Well.. I don't know how much they make, but it's doubtful we have a lot of people like "Quincy M.E." in our city governments.
 
2014-03-14 09:10:42 AM  

Cerebral Ballsy: There's racism and then there's this stupid shiat. Save your outrage for a real racism case.


You are right, this case was not swept under the rug because he was black.  It was swept under the rug because he was not from a prominent local family, not a star football player, and most importantly, a murder would have looked bad to the school's athletic department. Race probably doesn't play into it. I noticed the other High School in the area is being questioned as well, I would bet that some kind of intimidation by both schools athletic departments are being accused of intimidation. Valdosta/Lowndes could have been the setting for Friday Night Lights.
 
2014-03-14 09:13:59 AM  

Cerebral Ballsy: I wonder how much coroners and medical examiners make? Is it on par with private practice?


I don't know, but the previous coroner in my county fought bravely in WWII.  For Italy.

He was known for his amazing ability to to determine the cause of death at the scene without ever getting out of his car.
 
2014-03-14 09:17:39 AM  
This death stunk to high heaven and I'm glad someone is doing something about it.

If anything, there's a lot of general farking incompetence in the macon police and coroners office.
 
2014-03-14 09:20:22 AM  
So, the best I can surmise from the minimal evidence is that this kid may have been accidentally killed while being bullied by football players, and the administration covered it up/didn't pursue it aggressively because football is GOD in South Georgia. Still seems like it should be a GBI investigation; is being denied justice because you're not a football player a federal civil rights issue?
 
2014-03-14 09:20:24 AM  

vudukungfu: Cerebral Ballsy:

There's racism and then there's this stupid shiat. Save your outrage for a real racism case.

Sorry. I do apologize.
I meant to post "If it had been a young, blonde, white girl..."


* Little beauty queen in Denver Exemption
 
2014-03-14 09:20:39 AM  
The farked up part was how the kids organs went missing and he was stuffed with newspaper for the funeral
 
2014-03-14 09:22:58 AM  

nubzers: swankywanky: Walker: I remember how when the school released the video of the incident it was cut and spliced and had jump cuts all in it. It showed everything before and after, but not the incident itself. That videotape was cut up more than an emo girl's wrists.

this.  that video was so sketchy; and hate to think it but how much you want to bet there is no other copy (digital or tape) still available?

Do you have a link to that video?


Link
 
2014-03-14 09:24:23 AM  

styckx: The farked up part was how the kids organs went missing and he was stuffed with newspaper for the funeral


O_o
 
2014-03-14 09:27:46 AM  

styckx: The farked up part was how the kids organs went missing and he was stuffed with newspaper for the funeral


That is kida jacked up, but at least he wasn't stuffed with old copies of Jet Magazine.
 
2014-03-14 09:28:07 AM  

mbillips: So, the best I can surmise from the minimal evidence is that this kid may have been accidentally killed while being bullied by football players, and the administration covered it up/didn't pursue it aggressively because football is GOD in South Georgia. Still seems like it should be a GBI investigation; is being denied justice because you're not a football player a federal civil rights issue?


Because the GBI agents investigating also lived in south Georgia
 
2014-03-14 09:31:13 AM  

shortymac: This death stunk to high heaven and I'm glad someone is doing something about it.

If anything, there's a lot of general farking incompetence in the macon police and coroners office.


It DIDN'T HAPPEN IN MACON. Sheesh. That's just the dateline of where the story was filed. Lowndes County is about two hours south of Macon, and much more rural. Not that Macon hasn't had its own incompetent coroner (which is an elected position requiring no qualification whatsoever). In the late '80s, they had a guy who was so racist and so blasé about his job that he mistakenly declared a victim died of natural causes when he'd actually been shot in the head. The coroner's excuse was that he couldn't see the bullet hole "in all that wool on his head."

Typical Georgia county coroner is a funeral home director who does it in his spare time. If they get something suspicious, they're supposed to call in the state medical examiner's office.
 
2014-03-14 09:35:26 AM  

shortymac: This death stunk to high heaven and I'm glad someone is doing something about it.

If anything, there's a lot of general farking incompetence in the macon police and coroners office.


shall we repeat the word "Valdosta" a thousand times until you start perceiving facts laid out quite clearly in the article?
 
2014-03-14 09:37:32 AM  
Why is the FBI involved?  Where is the Federal jurisdiction?
 
2014-03-14 09:40:06 AM  

Handsome B. Wonderful: No I don't remember.


Sure, Hillary
 
2014-03-14 09:44:18 AM  

mbillips: shortymac: This death stunk to high heaven and I'm glad someone is doing something about it.

If anything, there's a lot of general farking incompetence in the macon police and coroners office.

It DIDN'T HAPPEN IN MACON. Sheesh. That's just the dateline of where the story was filed. Lowndes County is about two hours south of Macon, and much more rural. Not that Macon hasn't had its own incompetent coroner (which is an elected position requiring no qualification whatsoever). In the late '80s, they had a guy who was so racist and so blasé about his job that he mistakenly declared a victim died of natural causes when he'd actually been shot in the head. The coroner's excuse was that he couldn't see the bullet hole "in all that wool on his head."

Typical Georgia county coroner is a funeral home director who does it in his spare time. If they get something suspicious, they're supposed to call in the state medical examiner's office.


Magnus: shortymac: This death stunk to high heaven and I'm glad someone is doing something about it.

If anything, there's a lot of general farking incompetence in the macon police and coroners office.

shall we repeat the word "Valdosta" a thousand times until you start perceiving facts laid out quite clearly in the article?


Forgive me, I got the exact geographical area wrong. I am not from Georgia and didn't have a clue.
 
2014-03-14 09:45:11 AM  

Animatronik: Yeah I think it's early to assume racism. Sweeping under the mat plus police incompetence should not be discounted yet.


www.the-games-blog.com
 
2014-03-14 09:46:13 AM  

Thallone1: Handsome B. Wonderful: No I don't remember.

Sure, HillaryOllie

.

/*adjusts onion*
 
2014-03-14 09:50:37 AM  

Incredulous: Why is the FBI involved?  Where is the Federal jurisdiction?


Not sure if it's the case in this situation, but usually the FBI gets involved if it thinks the local authorities are corrupt or attempting a cover-up.
 
2014-03-14 09:52:38 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: Thallone1: Handsome B. Wonderful: No I don't remember.

Sure, HillaryOllie.

/*adjusts onion*


The difference being Ollie hasn't tried to run for President after _his_ lies.
 
2014-03-14 10:06:47 AM  

Incredulous: Why is the FBI involved?  Where is the Federal jurisdiction?


Incredulous?  Or Concerned?  And who precisely do you suggest custodiet ipsos custodes?   In cases of malfeasance or incompetence at the local government level are we supposed to, I don't know...wait for the invisible hand of the free market to fix it somehow?
 
2014-03-14 10:11:38 AM  
Before you start screaming "cover up", please do some more research from actual non-biased sources.  The Feds have gotten involved, but so far they have given no indication what-so-ever that they disagree with the State's findings in the investigation.  There has been zero new evidence at all that points to a cover up, while at the same time, further analysis of what evidence there actually is in the case, has only continued to reinforce the official findings.  There's nothing fishy about the surveillance videos, there's no sign that they were tampered with, the original theory of the case, while bizarre, has been shown to be both physically possible and in line with all the evidence gathered at the site.  At this point, it would be one of the biggest cover ups in criminal history if it was discovered that Kendrick Johnson's death was anything other than a tragic accident.
 
2014-03-14 10:14:12 AM  
Somebody had parents who expected him to get an education and get the hell out of south Georgia crossed up with one of the football fools the area is known for.  The bigotry angle is that by trying to escape rural crushing poverty with an scholastic scholarship versus a football scholarship is called 'acting white' by one group or 'getting uppity' by another group.  Both groups prefer the status quo, so deviants must be eliminated.
 
2014-03-14 10:27:28 AM  

Incredulous: Why is the FBI involved?  Where is the Federal jurisdiction?


Civil rights law. If the local and state cops deny you due process, the feds can get involved.
 
2014-03-14 10:32:21 AM  
Valdosta High School covers the city of Valdosta and is mostly black so I really doubt it was racism. Almost all the teachers and administrators are black. The county school Lowndes High covered all the suburbs and is mostly white. I would buy the covering for the football team theory but that is a heck of a risk to take. But it would be black on black crime covered up by black coaches and administrators.
 
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