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2014-03-14 12:23:30 AM  
It's far beyond time to stamp out this ignorant crap. To the world: get your snowflakes vaccinated so the rest of us don't have to deal with whatever newly-resurgent diseases your kids might conjure up.  This is not debatable. This is not a personal choice issue. This is not a government intrusion or partisan issue.  The link to autism was debunked years ago. Enough. Let us give no more air time to deniers or hand-wringers and instead let's slap the sides of heads of those who let fear get in the way of sound judgements and put the rest of us at risk.

/SOCIAL CONTRACT.
 
2014-03-14 12:42:48 AM  
how many more children is Jenny McCarthy going to kill
 
2014-03-14 12:57:41 AM  

Wadded Beef: This is not a personal choice issue. This is not a government intrusion or partisan issue.


I think his wife's wrong and not doing what's best for her child, but I'm not so dead certain of it that I'm willing to let the government dictate what medical injections her children must receive. She should be strongly encouraged, but not forced. There ARE cut and dry situations where kids need to be removed from the care of their parents, but this isn't one of them.

/watched Dallas Buyer's Club last night.
 
2014-03-14 01:19:54 AM  
Jay Cutler used up all the needles.
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2014-03-14 07:30:20 AM  
"Pregnancy brain", I feel like if I was a woman I would be kind of offended by that. I didn't even know it was a stereotype that pregnancy made women stupider. But now this actual woman verifies it.

I learned something today!
 
2014-03-14 07:30:25 AM  
The Facts In The Case Of Dr. Andrew Wakefield

http://tallguywrites.livejournal.com/148012.html

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2014-03-14 07:33:00 AM  

ransack.: "Pregnancy brain", I feel like if I was a woman I would be kind of offended by that. I didn't even know it was a stereotype that pregnancy made women stupider. But now this actual woman verifies it.

I learned something today!


it's not stupider -- it's unfocused and (sometimes) confusion and (sometimes) forgetful -- there are lots of new chemicals running through your body when you are pregnant.

Having a wife who is Type-A all the way -- it is incredible to watch the difference between her pregnant vs. not.
 
2014-03-14 07:39:59 AM  
That's surprising. Those two seem like a really smart couple.
 
2014-03-14 08:03:18 AM  

keithgabryelski: The Facts In The Case Of Dr. Andrew Wakefield

http://tallguywrites.livejournal.com/148012.html

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read the rest of the panels there -- it gets worse


Can't "Smart" this enough - this chucklefark, whose phony and irresponsible research has led to numerous children dying from completely preventable conditions, had multiple financial stakes in this entire debacle.

Is it possible to criminally prosecute people who do this?
 
2014-03-14 08:04:21 AM  
Hurling a spheroid down a field doesn't take a degree from Harvard.
 
2014-03-14 08:14:13 AM  
Not the Cutlet! Don't let the Cutlet go without vaccinations Jay.
 
2014-03-14 08:18:41 AM  
So in addition to being a fat drunk he also is retarded? That's a winning combination if I ever heard one.
 
2014-03-14 08:29:29 AM  
Sometimes kids are injured or killed as a result of getting belted into a car seat. Does that mean you're going to drive around town with your child improperly secured when you make a grocery run with them? I hope to God not, because if you do, you are a negligent monster.
 
2014-03-14 08:31:25 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Hurling a spheroid down a field doesn't take a degree from Harvard.


And a degree from Harvard doesn't guarantee you than throw a ball down the field:

www1.pictures.zimbio.com
 
2014-03-14 08:36:09 AM  
Smarten up, Callavari.
 
2014-03-14 08:52:54 AM  

keithgabryelski: ransack.: "Pregnancy brain", I feel like if I was a woman I would be kind of offended by that. I didn't even know it was a stereotype that pregnancy made women stupider. But now this actual woman verifies it.

I learned something today!

it's not stupider -- it's unfocused and (sometimes) confusion and (sometimes) forgetful -- there are lots of new chemicals running through your body when you are pregnant.

Having a wife who is Type-A all the way -- it is incredible to watch the difference between her pregnant vs. not.


I forgot a lot of things while I was pregnant and sort of felt like I was drugged part of the time. After the baby was born, I was ridiculously emotional over stupid things, and I even knew it was stupid, but I couldn't help myself. It's strange to feel yourself going insane and not be able to stop it.

/got better about 6 months later
//didn't happen at all the second time around
 
2014-03-14 08:54:45 AM  
Sigh.

Awesome.  Just what I need, Jay.  More reasons for my good friend who's a Packers fan to ridicule Cutty to my face.  And this one's legitimate.

Godammmitsomuch, Jay.

I never thought you and Kristen where some parenting marvels (no one is), but you're really doing a lot to support the stereotype of privileged, white, asshole douchebaggy Whole Foods-worshipping dicknozzles who hear too many things from their pilates buddies.

Live in the real world and then tell me you don't want to vaccinate your kids.

/still a Bears fan
//seriously Jay, goddammit...
 
2014-03-14 09:01:05 AM  
Yeah...don't mind me...just adding to my checklist of reasons I farking HATE Jay Cutler.  On the upside, I make it a point to watch Bears games whenever I can, just to laugh at his mopey emo ass getting sacked every 8 downs...so ratings are up, which is good.
 
2014-03-14 09:03:39 AM  
inleague.com
Coach Ditka frowns on your shenanigans, Cutler.
 
2014-03-14 09:08:52 AM  
I hope the Cutlet doesn't get the measels or something.
 
2014-03-14 09:26:47 AM  

SubBass49: Yeah...don't mind me...just adding to my checklist of reasons I farking HATE Jay Cutler.  On the upside, I make it a point to watch Bears games whenever I can, just to laugh at his mopey emo ass getting sacked every 8 downs...so ratings are up, which is good.


You sound well adjusted.
 
2014-03-14 09:32:35 AM  
Maybe they should do the rest of the world a favor and sterilize themselves instead of vaccinating their kids. That way, when their current kids get all farked up by measels or super-AIDS or some shiat like that, they wont be able to breed any more disease carriers.
 
2014-03-14 09:33:04 AM  

keithgabryelski: ransack.: "Pregnancy brain", I feel like if I was a woman I would be kind of offended by that. I didn't even know it was a stereotype that pregnancy made women stupider. But now this actual woman verifies it.

I learned something today!

it's not stupider -- it's unfocused and (sometimes) confusion and (sometimes) forgetful -- there are lots of new chemicals running through your body when you are pregnant.

Having a wife who is Type-A all the way -- it is incredible to watch the difference between her pregnant vs. not.


You spelled horrifying wrong. Just wait for the postpartum hormones to kick in,

WEeeeeeeeeee
 
2014-03-14 09:43:23 AM  
Who would win in a fight, Ditka or Autism?
 
2014-03-14 09:52:59 AM  

machoprogrammer: Who would win in a fight, Ditka or Autism?


Ditka ... in a landslide. While Ditka would love Autism's single minded focus, it's not very coachable.
 
2014-03-14 10:06:24 AM  

ksobby: machoprogrammer: Who would win in a fight, Ditka or Autism?

Ditka ... in a landslide. While Ditka would love Autism's single minded focus, it's not very coachable.


Autism is more resilient, though, and will be with you until the end.  Autism doesn't get older, get fired, or take up a job in New Orleans.
 
2014-03-14 10:10:50 AM  

Transpogue: Sigh.

Awesome.  Just what I need, Jay.  More reasons for my good friend who's a Packers fan to ridicule Cutty to my face.  And this one's legitimate.


Being that he's a Packers fan he probably agrees with Jay's decision.
 
2014-03-14 10:12:23 AM  

keithgabryelski: The Facts In The Case Of Dr. Andrew Wakefield

http://tallguywrites.livejournal.com/148012.html

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read the rest of the panels there -- it gets worse


I hadn't seen this telling of it before.  Thanks for sharing, now I have something with words AND pictures to share with any anti-vaccers who spam me.... it'll probably be more their speed.
 
2014-03-14 10:17:24 AM  
So did ya'll miss where she says they realize they were wrong?

Too much work?
 
2014-03-14 10:20:20 AM  
Triumph:
I think his wife's wrong and not doing what's best for her child, but I'm not so dead certain of it that I'm willing to let the government dictate what medical injections her children must receive. She should be strongly encouraged, but not forced. There ARE cut and dry situations where kids need to be removed from the care of their parents, but this isn't one of them.

/watched Dallas Buyer's Club last night.



Just because you've been vaccinated against something doesn't mean that you're directly protected from it.   Sometimes your body ignores the vaccine.   Sometimes the pathogen inside the vaccine is dead and therefore produces no response from  ineffective.   Sometimes your immune system "forgets" how it fought the weakened pathogen in the vaccine over time.

 But fear not!!!   Part of effectiveness of vaccinations is Herd Immunity.   If everyone gets vaccinated, the disease finds it very hard to find a foothold into the herd, and the people for whom the vaccination didn't work have a shield.

........  Unless a bunch of idiots in the herd didn't get vaccinated because they let Playboy Models and Hollywood Movies set Public Health Guidelines.
 
2014-03-14 10:24:04 AM  
Gave my son a MMR vaccine for his first birthday this week
 
2014-03-14 10:34:02 AM  
As a parent I can understand wanting to find something, anything to blame for something wrong with your child.  I can also understand being wary of consequences of purposely putting your child at risk.  What I can't understand is anyone that has done even a modicum of investigation coming to the conclusion that not vaccing your kids is wise.

I don't blame Jenny McCarthy.  She's an idiot.  I blame Oprah.  Oprah gave her a platform and (to my knowledge) never followed up stating that a former Playmate is not a good person to take medical advice from.  I believe JM is part of The View cast of harpies now.  I wonder if she's brought it up at all there.  So another person to blame would be Barbara Walters, once again, someone who should know better.
 
2014-03-14 10:35:40 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: So did ya'll miss where she says they realize they were wrong?

Too much work?


I missed it. What part was that?
 
2014-03-14 10:38:45 AM  

Triumph: Wadded Beef: This is not a personal choice issue. This is not a government intrusion or partisan issue.

I think his wife's wrong and not doing what's best for her child, but I'm not so dead certain of it that I'm willing to let the government dictate what medical injections her children must receive. She should be strongly encouraged, but not forced. There ARE cut and dry situations where kids need to be removed from the care of their parents, but this isn't one of them.

/watched Dallas Buyer's Club last night.


Forgot to add that Dallas Buyer's Club is a full of typical Hollywood anti-science hackery.   It wasn't just "Da Man" pushing for AZT before optimal doses could be determined.   It was ACT UP and the gay community who were pushing for expedited approval because it was the first thing to ever been found to actually WORK (and still works today).    But that doesn't make for a good movie villain, does it?


In 1986, after years of blind rage -- at the sickness and sanctimony, the calls for quarantine, the hawking of crystals; at affirmation-spewing quacks like Louise Hay; at the sheer, harrowing loss of friends and neighbors and co-workers -- I stumbled into Project Inform's shabby little office in San Francisco's Tenderloin neighborhood. Two men, Tom Jefferson and Ron Koslow ("a Texas sissy, honey"), were on the phones, answering questions about experimental treatments for AIDS. (There was no other kind, of course.) I learned to take calls. I stuffed mailing packets with information about ribavirin, AL721, isoprinosine, interferon, rifabutin, pentamidine, fluconazole, and dextran sulfate and how to get them. I scanned the AmfAR Treatment Directory and study lists from all over to identify clinical trials that our callers might qualify for.


There were only five of us -- Tom, Ron, and I in the office, plus our co-founders Martin Delaney and Joe Brewer -- and we all had full-time jobs too. Joe was a tireless organizer. Marty was always off writing or networking or lobbying the FDA and NIH. We had an unofficial sixth in Jim Corti, whom nobody else seems to remember now, but who did what Ron Woodroof did, only better and longer and not for money.

.....

We taught ourselves to read medical journals and were far more sophisticated about AIDS than anyone in  Dallas Buyers Club is. The movie distorts the facts about AZT, for instance, to make Woodroof seem heroic for his murderous advice to others not to take it. It's true that there were HIV deniers and AZT deniers in our midst who were pushing vitamins and herbs, even regular gusts of ozone up the butt, and clearly AZT had serious toxicities at the dosage tested. It was also clear that AZT worked. Unflagging pressure from Marty and ACT UP and so many others led to expedited approval, before an optimal dose could be established. And why not, since the course of HIV without treatment had already been demonstrated thousands of times?
 
2014-03-14 10:41:27 AM  

mjbok: I don't blame Jenny McCarthy.  She's an idiot.  I blame Oprah.  Oprah gave her a platform and (to my knowledge) never followed up stating that a former Playmate is not a good person to take medical advice from.


In fairness, considering the hand selected menagerie of quacks and charlatans that Oprah has inflicted upon our society, there's a very good chance that Oprah is also an idiot  when it comes to anything other than self marketing.
 
2014-03-14 10:42:20 AM  

mjbok: As a parent I can understand wanting to find something, anything to blame for something wrong with your child.  I can also understand being wary of consequences of purposely putting your child at risk.  What I can't understand is anyone that has done even a modicum of investigation coming to the conclusion that not vaccing your kids is wise.

I don't blame Jenny McCarthy.  She's an idiot.  I blame Oprah.  Oprah gave her a platform and (to my knowledge) never followed up stating that a former Playmate is not a good person to take medical advice from.  I believe JM is part of The View cast of harpies now.  I wonder if she's brought it up at all there.  So another person to blame would be Barbara Walters, once again, someone who should know better.


To be fair, who would have thought that anybody would have been dumb enough to take medical advice from a Playmate over a doctor?
 
2014-03-14 10:43:27 AM  

InmanRoshi: In fairness, considering the hand selected menagerie of quacks and charlatans that Oprah has inflicted upon our society, there's a very good chance that Oprah is also an idiot when it comes to anything other than self marketing.


I think anyone that gets into the BBC, especially as a black woman has to have some intelligence going on.  Of course, she also came up with Dr. Phil, so maybe not.  Walters has no such excuse.
 
2014-03-14 10:45:40 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: So did ya'll miss where she says they realize they were wrong?

Too much work?


No where in the article does it say that. If you're referring to another article, then yes, it is too much work because I'm not about to go searching for it.
 
2014-03-14 10:51:16 AM  
We split up the MMRV vaccine into two shots for our kid (MMR one week, then varicella a few weeks later) because studies have found an increased risk of febrile seizures with the combo shot. I had febrile seizures when I was a kid, so were wary of upping her risk. And we were going to the beach like 7 days after the appointment, which was right in the "more seizures" wheelhouse.

The conversation we had with our pediatrician started with "We're not antivaccine kooks, I promise. We want our kid to get all the vaccines she needs. Vaccines are the single greatest public health accomplishment in the history of ever. All we want to do is give her the MMR and V shots separately, because findings and heredity." It kills me that the entire conversation needed that "we're not lunatics" preamble.

/Doc was totally good with it.
//Kid had her first febrile seizure this past December. Terrifying, but we knew what was up.
 
2014-03-14 10:55:22 AM  

ongbok: mjbok: I don't blame Jenny McCarthy.  She's an idiot.  I blame Oprah.  Oprah gave her a platform and (to my knowledge) never followed up stating that a former Playmate is not a good person to take medical advice from.  I believe JM is part of The View cast of harpies now.  I wonder if she's brought it up at all there.  So another person to blame would be Barbara Walters, once again, someone who should know better.

To be fair, who would have thought that anybody would have been dumb enough to take medical advice from a Playmate over a doctor?


I think the problem is this:

They are not comparing what she says to what a doctor says. They are only hearing what she says. And these people generally talk in echo chambers, so when she gets it repeated back many times, it becomes science and not just "something that pretty woman said."

Once they hear someone's opinion (which is based on science) that vaccines are good, this now goes against the fact they know to be true. There is very little getting in the way of their beliefs at this point. It's too far gone.

See also: climate change, birth control, abstinence teaching, prayer in classrooms, etc
 
2014-03-14 11:00:42 AM  

verbaltoxin: I hope the Cutlet doesn't get the measels or something.


What are the odds anyone will catch something from a Cutler?  It will probably go high and wide.
 
2014-03-14 11:22:18 AM  

robertus: We split up the MMRV vaccine into two shots for our kid (MMR one week, then varicella a few weeks later) because studies have found an increased risk of febrile seizures with the combo shot. I had febrile seizures when I was a kid, so were wary of upping her risk. And we were going to the beach like 7 days after the appointment, which was right in the "more seizures" wheelhouse.

The conversation we had with our pediatrician started with "We're not antivaccine kooks, I promise. We want our kid to get all the vaccines she needs. Vaccines are the single greatest public health accomplishment in the history of ever. All we want to do is give her the MMR and V shots separately, because findings and heredity." It kills me that the entire conversation needed that "we're not lunatics" preamble.

/Doc was totally good with it.
//Kid had her first febrile seizure this past December. Terrifying, but we knew what was up.


There really is nothing wrong with what you did. And there's nothing wrong with admitting that vaccines can and do sometimes have negative side effects because, as you noted, scientific studies have shown strong evidence for these vaccines causing them. The febrile seizures you mention are actually listed in the article I linked as a side effect of vaccines. But there is no evidence that any vaccine causes children to have an autism spectrum disorder.
 
2014-03-14 11:24:54 AM  
Sounds like Ditka, and Shatner need to kick Cutlers a$$ in a intervention

he would probably enjoy that
 
2014-03-14 11:28:54 AM  

bborchar: After the baby was born, I was ridiculously emotional over stupid things, and I even knew it was stupid, but I couldn't help myself. It's strange to feel yourself going insane and not be able to stop it.


My wife had the same thing happen while she was pregnant, and said pretty much the same thing. I said "Now you know what it's like for people with recurring depression- rationally aware, but unable to do anything about it." It's not something that I have to deal with much anymore, but it certainly changed her perceptions of the issue, and why telling people to "just feel better" is asinine. I kinda wish there were a condition people could get other than pregnant that would help them empathize, since I feel like depression still isn't well understood by a lot of folks.
 
2014-03-14 11:32:18 AM  

This Looks Fun: ongbok: mjbok: I don't blame Jenny McCarthy.  She's an idiot.  I blame Oprah.  Oprah gave her a platform and (to my knowledge) never followed up stating that a former Playmate is not a good person to take medical advice from.  I believe JM is part of The View cast of harpies now.  I wonder if she's brought it up at all there.  So another person to blame would be Barbara Walters, once again, someone who should know better.

To be fair, who would have thought that anybody would have been dumb enough to take medical advice from a Playmate over a doctor?

I think the problem is this:

They are not comparing what she says to what a doctor says. They are only hearing what she says. And these people generally talk in echo chambers, so when she gets it repeated back many times, it becomes science and not just "something that pretty woman said."

Once they hear someone's opinion (which is based on science) that vaccines are good, this now goes against the fact they know to be true. There is very little getting in the way of their beliefs at this point. It's too far gone.

See also: climate change, birth control, abstinence teaching, prayer in classrooms, etc


Seriously, do you think the people that are following her are going to listen to what a doctor or an expert has to say on this? These people are conspiracy theorist and vaccines are their conspiracy theory. These people have a screw loose. What normal person is going to watch Oprah or the View and see some model talking about how vaccines are dangerous and say "That's it, I'm never vaccinating my kids again!". No normal person would do that. A normal person would either write them off as crazy immediately, or say to themselves "Hmm, that's interesting. I think I will look more into this and ask a doctor.".

So once again, you shouldn't need to put anybody up to dispute what they claim. Normal people would see through what they claim or research it it themselves. Plus the people who are following this antivaccine crap are crazies anyway and wouldn't listen to a damn thing anybody said against it.
 
2014-03-14 11:51:11 AM  

ongbok: These people are conspiracy theorist and vaccines are their conspiracy theory.


Makes me wonder if I have something like this in my mind that I am irrational about. I'll check in with the wife just in case she's been being nice by keeping it from me.
 
2014-03-14 11:51:38 AM  

someonelse: Jim from Saint Paul: So did ya'll miss where she says they realize they were wrong?

Too much work?

I missed it. What part was that?


SkittlesAreYum: Jim from Saint Paul: So did ya'll miss where she says they realize they were wrong?

Too much work?

No where in the article does it say that. If you're referring to another article, then yes, it is too much work because I'm not about to go searching for it.


You know what. When I reread that, I realized I was totally worong. My apologies.

This is the second time in 2 days that my snark-o-meter and my reading comprehension has gotten me in trouble.

I should really STFU.
 
2014-03-14 11:54:32 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Hurling a spheroid down a field doesn't take a degree from Harvard.


Granted Cutler was going to Vanderbilt
 
2014-03-14 12:02:11 PM  
Well if there is any justice in this world their kids will die from one of the preventable diseases.
 
2014-03-14 12:02:11 PM  
Those poor kids.  Plus, Cutler smokes like a chimney, so think about all the second-hand smoke they have to deal with.
 
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