HotWingAgenda: I don't blame Dr. Gulliver for being annoyed; I myself feel rankled when someone who knows full well I have an earned doctorate refers to my male peers as "Professor" or "Doctor" yet calls me "Ms. Schuman." It happens all the time, and I often hear a sneer in the "izzzzz."Oh, for f*ck's sake.
namatad: What's wrong with HEY F*CK HEAD?
hardinparamedic: namatad: What's wrong with HEY F*CK HEAD?Because the moment you call your collage instructor that to your face, you'll end up hearing "I told you I wanted fries with that, asshole." for the rest of your life?
Lsherm: A few months ago I started a new job at a large university and I continually have to look up email signatures or titles in our directory to get things right, and it's almost absurd because I'm not anyone's student. However, it did lead to an amusing exchange with one of my staff members who recently got his PhD. We've been trying to get a 1,200 node grid off the ground and the research chair who is first in line to use it spends most of his days harassing the staff about when it's going to be set up. My lead engineer, who I'll call Thomas, has been butting heads with the chair, who I'll call Dr. Richard Antsypants.All three of us were in the data center last week troubleshooting. I've been on a first name basis with Richard since the beginning and we're talking like we usually do. Thomas is explaining that no one can submit jobs yet because the Qlogic cards aren't working correctly and he calls Dr. Antsypants 'Richard', at which point Richard says "I'm a doctor." Without missing a beat, Thomas said "So am I, but it doesn't seem to help for this particular issue."I waited for a pissing contest to break out, but Richard laughed and now everyone is on a first name basis. Students should defer to their instructors, but outside of that relationship you have to be a real jerk to start throwing titles around. I don't make people call me Director LSherm at work and Thomas sure as hell doesn't make anyone call him Dr. Thomas. In a formal setting, like during first introductions? Sure, the title is appropriate. If you're going to be working with someone who isn't your student for an extended period of time? Be reasonable.
assjuice: If you're not an MD you shouldn't be called 'doctor'. And in this day and age you shouldn't expect much respect from any student you aren't providing an assistantship to.
strangeluck: I have an idea, from now on, let's just call everyone "Bob."Regardless of your name, rank, position, gender, etc. Your name is now "Bob."
diaphoresis: I prefer Mistress.
UNC_Samurai: strangeluck: I have an idea, from now on, let's just call everyone "Bob."Regardless of your name, rank, position, gender, etc. Your name is now "Bob."Mind if we call you "Bruce" to keep it clear?
OtherLittleGuy: Unavailable for comment:
Cybernetic: I used to teach college courses as an adjunct. I have a master's but not a doctorate. And I didn't give a rat's ass what my students called me. Mostly they called me by my first name.It's college. Everyone there is an adult.To me, this professor sounds like someone who is so insecure that she clings to her position and her credentials as some sort of validation of her worth as a person, and regards any failure to properly recognize her position and credentials as some sort of personal affront.
Prank Call of Cthulhu: assjuice: If you're not an MD you shouldn't be called 'doctor'. And in this day and age you shouldn't expect much respect from any student you aren't providing an assistantship to.Nope. Academics had the title "doctor" first. I'm Dr. PCoC, a physicist. The person who fondles my balls once a year (no, I'm not talking about Mrs. PCoC) is a physician.
namatad: For the TA slaves?Whatever - who cares.Sucks to be them no matter what you call them.Buy them lunch and a beer and they will love you.
OhioUGrad: Could just be me, but I was raised to always refer to someone by their title (if you know it, if you don't it's Mr. or Ms.), and that includes calling someone doctor ______ if they have a MD or PhD unless they ask you to address them otherwise. I had a few professors that said "you don't have to refer to me as doctor" and others that preferred to be referred to as doctor. It's up to the individual, but have respect for them and address them by their title and last name until they instruct you to do otherwise./dnrta
dryknife: She sounds bossy.
strangeluck: UNC_Samurai: strangeluck: I have an idea, from now on, let's just call everyone "Bob."Regardless of your name, rank, position, gender, etc. Your name is now "Bob."Mind if we call you "Bruce" to keep it clear?We are all Bob, embrace Bob, and accept Bob into your heart.Welcome, Bob.
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