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2014-03-14 12:20:55 AM
sad
 
2014-03-14 12:26:47 AM
70-Year-Old Man Peppered with Bullets

He sounds like a seasoned pro.
 
2014-03-14 01:51:05 AM
Fox News Channel reporter Trace Gallagher reported on Thursday that Knox's commanding officer said, judging from the dash cam tape, that Knox "did the right thing."

How in the hell was that the right thing? He shouts something at the guy then completely unloads on him. Doesn't even say "Drop the gun" until he emptied a magazine at him.

Dumbass cop needs to be fired
 
2014-03-14 03:14:15 AM
Well, if he didn't want to get shot, then he shouldn't have needed a cane. We live in an era of enhanced morality; one of the consequences of this morality is that you will be shot more often. If you don't like this, go move to some Third World country like the Sudan, the Gambia, or the Austria.
 
2014-03-14 06:45:14 AM
Sad, indeed.
 
2014-03-14 07:41:07 AM
Love the comment section

(1.) Bobby Canipe is alive and will be fine
(2.) Bobby Canipe is a Caucasian male and not black
(3.) Because of number 2, we won't have 6 months of constant media outrage by the professional black grievance machine (Al Sharpton, Michael Eric Dyson, Melissa Harris-Perry, Joy-Ann Reid, Jesse Jackson, Touré)


I thought about this comment... I can't help thinking this might be a viable point of view.
 
2014-03-14 07:42:26 AM
The cops probably were afraid they had pulled over Ginger Baker....

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2014-03-14 07:44:55 AM

ArkAngel: Fox News Channel reporter Trace Gallagher reported on Thursday that Knox's commanding officer said, judging from the dash cam tape, that Knox "did the right thing."

How in the hell was that the right thing? He shouts something at the guy then completely unloads on him. Doesn't even say "Drop the gun" until he emptied a magazine at him.


They're both cops. One coulda shot up a preschool while smoking crack in the nude, the other would publicly defend him.
 
2014-03-14 07:45:11 AM
Nowadays I've just learned (from Fark):

1. Never talk to cops (other than a polite hello) unless you have a lawyer
2. If you get pulled over for any reason: pull over, turn on your blinkers, put car in park, take keys out of ignition and place on dash, keep hands in a visible location, and make no sudden moves
3. Never call the cops unless it is a last resort because they will likely end up shooting someone
 
2014-03-14 07:45:15 AM
Needs to be fired.  Not fit.
 
2014-03-14 07:47:28 AM

OhioUGrad: Nowadays I've just learned (from Fark):

1. Never talk to cops (other than a polite hello) unless you have a lawyer
2. If you get pulled over for any reason: pull over, turn on your blinkers, put car in park, take keys out of ignition and place on dash, keep hands in a visible location, and make no sudden moves
3. Never call the cops unless it is a last resort because they will likely end up shooting someone


In case 2, if it's dark out, also put on your dome light, so the cop can see into the car.
 
2014-03-14 07:48:46 AM
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a cane is a good guy with a cane.
 
2014-03-14 07:54:04 AM
"I promise to God I thought it was a shotgun," and so I fired multiple shots at a potentially armed suspect who had not fired nor threatened to do so.

It seems police are not trained to deal with potentially dangerous situations, and though they may fire their weapon at targets at some satisfactory level they don't seem to be trained to shoot accurately under anything resembling a situation where it would be appropriate to shoot anything.
 
2014-03-14 07:56:17 AM
Ah, the old Remington Cane Gun defense!
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2014-03-14 07:57:56 AM
If a cop does something like this he should lose his ability to use a gun permanently.  Whether that causes him to be forced to change careers, so what.  There need to be laws keeping dangerous cops off the street.
 
2014-03-14 07:59:52 AM
Mmmm, we should all feel proud of our paranoid, 'roided up protectors.
 
2014-03-14 08:02:04 AM
"I promise to God I thought it was a shotgun," replied York County Deputy Terrance Knox. The officer is later heard crying while explaining to a fellow officer why he shot Canipe

Idiot has no business being a cop.
 
2014-03-14 08:03:14 AM

Gunther: ArkAngel: Fox News Channel reporter Trace Gallagher reported on Thursday that Knox's commanding officer said, judging from the dash cam tape, that Knox "did the right thing."

How in the hell was that the right thing? He shouts something at the guy then completely unloads on him. Doesn't even say "Drop the gun" until he emptied a magazine at him.

They're both cops. One coulda shot up a preschool while smoking crack in the nude, the other would publicly defend him.


www.gunaxin.comSomehow this seemed relevant.
 
2014-03-14 08:04:00 AM

diaphoresis: Love the comment section

(1.) Bobby Canipe is alive and will be fine
(2.) Bobby Canipe is a Caucasian male and not black
(3.) Because of number 2, we won't have 6 months of constant media outrage by the professional black grievance machine (Al Sharpton, Michael Eric Dyson, Melissa Harris-Perry, Joy-Ann Reid, Jesse Jackson, Touré)

I thought about this comment... I can't help thinking this might be a viable point of view.


Alive yes, but I suspect Bobby isn't going to be "fine" for the rest of his life.
 
2014-03-14 08:13:12 AM
Just watched the video. Nope, this guy should never be allowed to be a police officer anywhere, ever again.
He could have killed the man, his wife, or any number of people that were driving on that busy highway.
Piss poor shooting skills, and piss poor judgement.
 
2014-03-14 08:27:06 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Just watched the video. Nope, this guy should never be allowed to be a police officer anywhere, ever again.
He could have killed the man, his wife, or any number of people that were driving on that busy highway.
Piss poor shooting skills, and piss poor judgement.


If only there were some type of school or academy where police could get training in firearm usage...
 
2014-03-14 08:28:22 AM
This is a good lesson as to why you don't get out of the car unless ordered to.
 
2014-03-14 08:34:25 AM
What the hell, when did we start letting wimpy biatches become police officers? If you want to be a police officer, you should have the balls to no draw your firearm at the drop of a hat. As a police officer you do NOT have the "right to go home" as so many claim, you're supposed to be the line between the people and criminals.
 
2014-03-14 08:36:37 AM

ArkAngel: Fox News Channel reporter Trace Gallagher reported on Thursday that Knox's commanding officer said, judging from the dash cam tape, that Knox "did the right thing."

How in the hell was that the right thing? He shouts something at the guy then completely unloads on him. Doesn't even say "Drop the gun" until he emptied a magazine at him.

Dumbass cop needs to be fired


This. It might have been a mistake (a really terrible one) but it wasn't the right thing.
 
2014-03-14 08:43:09 AM
Typical trigger-happy cops.  Move along.  Nothing to see here.  One day suspension with pay, at most.
 
2014-03-14 08:45:48 AM
It's hard to tell from the lo-res video, but it looks like the cop shot the guy in the back.
 
2014-03-14 08:50:04 AM
The police officer did nothing wrong.  The cane looked very much like a shotgun.  I love how so many people who don't have jobs where their lives are in jeopardy every day act all morally superior.  Yes, the cop made a mistake, but given the video evidence, it is not difficult to see or understand why the police officer acted in this manner.

/Love me some irrational Fark "Cop hate threads..."
 
2014-03-14 08:57:05 AM

jpo2269: The police officer did nothing wrong.  The cane looked very much like a shotgun.  I love how so many people who don't have jobs where their lives are in jeopardy every day act all morally superior.  Yes, the cop made a mistake, but given the video evidence, it is not difficult to see or understand why the police officer acted in this manner.

/Love me some irrational Fark "Cop hate threads..."



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2014-03-14 08:59:46 AM
The copy felt threatened and Stood His Ground like any red blooded American should.  That makes him a Hero, right?
 
2014-03-14 09:03:59 AM
Sounds like the cop is just under some stress. He deserved a union endorsed 6 month paid leave while they review the incident.
 
2014-03-14 09:04:28 AM
Knox's commanding officer said, judging from the dash cam tape, that Knox "did the right thing."

Only a really bad cop could say something like this.  How in the heck can shooting an unarmed, physically challenged 70 year old veteran possibly be considered "doing the right thing"?

Don't get me wrong.  I don't entirely blame that cop that did the shooting.  He had to make a quick decision and unfortunately made a mistake. He's human.  His commanding officer though is a turd for uttering that statement above.
 
2014-03-14 09:05:47 AM
I knew someone would use the life in danger excuse.

But if my live was in danger all the time, I'd take shooting lessons.

/cop probably only had a gun to plant and not a shotgun to cover this up
 
2014-03-14 09:07:25 AM
"did the right thing."

Yep, anything in the name of officer safety, including shooting at innocent people.

Cops: Cowards to the core.
 
2014-03-14 09:13:12 AM

jpo2269: The police officer did nothing wrong.  The cane looked very much like a shotgun.  I love how so many people who don't have jobs where their lives are in jeopardy every day act all morally superior.  Yes, the cop made a mistake, but given the video evidence, it is not difficult to see or understand why the police officer acted in this manner.

/Love me some irrational Fark "Cop hate threads..."


This..

DO   NOT   GET   OUT   OF   THE  DAMN  CAR....

Please, if you take anything away from this thread,  PLEASE STAY IN YOUR CAR.

1) It's not safe for you to be wondering in traffic
2) It's not taken as a sign of being friendly

We walk and play in traffic daily, you do not..
We position our car for our safety and yours, but that doesn't mean a drunk and/or stupid person isn't going to some how hit either car anyway...


THIS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GMCfxezdfE   is drilled into every officers head...
 
2014-03-14 09:17:54 AM

EggSniper: "I promise to God I thought it was a shotgun," and so I fired multiple shots at a potentially armed suspect who had not fired nor threatened to do so.

It seems police are not trained to deal with potentially dangerous situations, and though they may fire their weapon at targets at some satisfactory level they don't seem to be trained to shoot accurately under anything resembling a situation where it would be appropriate to shoot anything.


I feel bad for the guy, I'm sure he meant well, but he's a farking moron.
 
2014-03-14 09:20:20 AM
As an ex cop I just want to say in the dark with flashing lights something like a cane  could easily be mistaken for a shotgun. Yes this was a tragedy and the cop has to live with it for the rest of his life but lets look at what happened. The old man got out of the car, the cop yelled at him to get back in the car (this is actually normal procedure to avoid physical conflicts) the old man either ignored him or didn't hear him. Next he reached for his cane and the cop started yelling more and either the old man ignored him or didn't hear him, next all you can see with the flashing lights is what appears to be the barrel of a shotgun being pointed at him. He has a split second to make the judgement to pull the trigger. He had no other choice given what he could see and his training. So sure, go hate on the cop, but lets say it really was a shotgun being wielded by a crazy old man and the cop decided to give the benefit of the doubt to an old man. You could just as easily be looking a dead police officer. Again, while this was a tragedy, it played out the way it did because it had to once the old man got out of the car. So hate on people.
 
2014-03-14 09:25:41 AM
70-Year-Old Man Peppered with Bullets

and assaulted.
 
2014-03-14 09:27:28 AM

wambu: 70-Year-Old Man Peppered with Bullets

and assaulted. salted.

 
2014-03-14 09:31:00 AM

God--: As an ex cop I just want to say in the dark with flashing lights something like a cane  could easily be mistaken for a shotgun. Yes this was a tragedy and the cop has to live with it for the rest of his life but lets look at what happened. The old man got out of the car, the cop yelled at him to get back in the car (this is actually normal procedure to avoid physical conflicts) the old man either ignored him or didn't hear him. Next he reached for his cane and the cop started yelling more and either the old man ignored him or didn't hear him, next all you can see with the flashing lights is what appears to be the barrel of a shotgun being pointed at him. He has a split second to make the judgement to pull the trigger. He had no other choice given what he could see and his training. So sure, go hate on the cop, but lets say it really was a shotgun being wielded by a crazy old man and the cop decided to give the benefit of the doubt to an old man. You could just as easily be looking a dead police officer. Again, while this was a tragedy, it played out the way it did because it had to once the old man got out of the car. So hate on people.


I love a cop bash thread as much as the next guy.

I'm as critical of police as I think a rational person can be. My expectations for civil servants are pretty damned high.

But in this case, the above is really all there is to it.

and to anyone criticizing the cop for his very human response:
this is the type of cop we need
 
2014-03-14 09:33:45 AM

Gunther: ArkAngel: Fox News Channel reporter Trace Gallagher reported on Thursday that Knox's commanding officer said, judging from the dash cam tape, that Knox "did the right thing."

How in the hell was that the right thing? He shouts something at the guy then completely unloads on him. Doesn't even say "Drop the gun" until he emptied a magazine at him.

They're both cops. One coulda shot up a preschool while smoking crack in the nude, the other would publicly defend him.


^ This.  In fact the cop could have drowned a litter of puppies in front of the class before shooting them up, and the chief would call it standard procedure.
 
2014-03-14 09:36:16 AM

MassAsster: jpo2269: The police officer did nothing wrong.  The cane looked very much like a shotgun.  I love how so many people who don't have jobs where their lives are in jeopardy every day act all morally superior.  Yes, the cop made a mistake, but given the video evidence, it is not difficult to see or understand why the police officer acted in this manner.

/Love me some irrational Fark "Cop hate threads..."

This..

DO   NOT   GET   OUT   OF   THE  DAMN  CAR....

Please, if you take anything away from this thread,  PLEASE STAY IN YOUR CAR.

1) It's not safe for you to be wondering in traffic
2) It's not taken as a sign of being friendly

We walk and play in traffic daily, you do not..
We position our car for our safety and yours, but that doesn't mean a drunk and/or stupid person isn't going to some how hit either car anyway...


THIS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GMCfxezdfE   is drilled into every officers head...


Had a cop once tell me over the loud speaker to get out of the car, so I did. He then told me to get back in the car over the same loud speaker. He then came up to my car to give me my ticket for 7 MPH over the speed limit. He never gave me a reason for the change in wanting me back in the car but I will guess it is because I am 6'7" and over 350.
 
2014-03-14 09:36:22 AM

Candy Colored Clown: wambu: 70-Year-Old Man Peppered with Bullets

and assaulted. salted.


That was implied.
 
2014-03-14 09:39:19 AM
"Hey sir, sir, sir, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa" isn't a command. The officer never made any attempt at having the man return to his vehicle before shooting him. I would call shooting someone from leaving their vehicle attempted murder.
 
2014-03-14 09:41:03 AM
 
2014-03-14 09:41:05 AM
Maybe if he had told him to to stop or freeze or give some indication besides "Whoa" that he thought that the cane was a gun, I would have some sympathy for the dumbass.
 
2014-03-14 09:43:00 AM

MurphyMurphy: God--:  the cop has to live with it for the rest of his life


the cop has to live with it for the rest of his life?

 the cop has to live with it for the rest of his life?

 the cop has to live with it for the rest of his life?
 
2014-03-14 09:57:52 AM

roadkillontheweb: MassAsster: jpo2269: The police officer did nothing wrong.  The cane looked very much like a shotgun.  I love how so many people who don't have jobs where their lives are in jeopardy every day act all morally superior.  Yes, the cop made a mistake, but given the video evidence, it is not difficult to see or understand why the police officer acted in this manner.

/Love me some irrational Fark "Cop hate threads..."

This..

DO   NOT   GET   OUT   OF   THE  DAMN  CAR....

Please, if you take anything away from this thread,  PLEASE STAY IN YOUR CAR.

1) It's not safe for you to be wondering in traffic
2) It's not taken as a sign of being friendly

We walk and play in traffic daily, you do not..
We position our car for our safety and yours, but that doesn't mean a drunk and/or stupid person isn't going to some how hit either car anyway...


THIS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GMCfxezdfE   is drilled into every officers head...

Had a cop once tell me over the loud speaker to get out of the car, so I did. He then told me to get back in the car over the same loud speaker. He then came up to my car to give me my ticket for 7 MPH over the speed limit. He never gave me a reason for the change in wanting me back in the car but I will guess it is because I am 6'7" and over 350.


lol yea, sounds like a lazy douche who decided today wasnt the day he wanted to get his ass kicked through the window. 7 mph? I have no love for traffic cops..
 
2014-03-14 09:59:50 AM

jpo2269: I love how so many people who don't have jobs where their lives are in jeopardy every day act all morally superior


We were smart enough to choose a profession where we don't get shot at much, which actually makes us mentally superior, as opposed to morally superior.
 
2014-03-14 10:00:20 AM

MassAsster: We position our car for our safety and yours


yeah, in my rural area they are now putting their cars halfway into the lane people drive in when a whole breakdown lane exists. You'll see the person they have pulled over all the way in the breakdown lane with a good three feet to spare and then the dumbass cop behind them with their car out in the road and then of course they just open their doors like they own the place and step out without even looking to make sure nobody is coming. By the behavior I see I would bet often deaths involving a cop who has someone pulled over is caused by the cop acting arrogant and putting himself in a dangerous situation where he gets clipped strutting around like a peacock.
 
2014-03-14 10:02:05 AM

LavenderWolf: "did the right thing."

Yep, anything in the name of officer safety, including shooting at innocent people.

Cops: Cowards to the core.


How often have you felt your life has been at risk at your job? How often do you complete a task at work only to say 3 minutes later, "holy shiat that was close, someone could have died"? I'm not a cop, but I've been called a coward on Fark for responding to a hypothetical in a way that did not mesh with what they thought my job was. So I get a chuckle when cube dwellers who spend 8 hours a day tethered to a desk will comment on the cowardice of a man whose job puts him in a position to decide, in less than a second, in the dark with headlights going by, whether that long, round thing is a shotgun tracking toward him or not.

I'd say "did the right thing" is a stretch, "what he did was understandable" is more in line. I think the old man did all the wrong things: opening his door without being prompted, exiting the vehicle, ignoring/not hearing the officer, reaching back into his truck for his cane while still ignoring/not hearing, and then turning with the cane elevated.
 
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